Flash made a review to "Lana" which is very rare considering that he usually reviews older or "alternative" titles (I think "Lana" is one of the most reviewed titles in ADT for 2017).
^ I usually review feature-style adult movies. My favorite period are the shot on film classics, however, there are still well done features to this day. I consider Lana due to it's structure to be a feature despite being a compilation of five web scenes.
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tripper Deactivated User
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Posted - Apr 17 2017 : 5:53PM
I got my pick axe out, which way to the mob Flash?
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Rosco Fuji Deactivated User
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Posted - Apr 17 2017 : 6:46PM
I disagree. The fans are the least important part of the equation whether it be porn or let's just say the NFL. It's all about making money for the owners, because they know the fans will come back around sooner than later. Your second point is akin to employees telling the employer how they are going to work. Not going to happen as there are plenty of others willing to do the job that the employer wants.
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Rosco Fuji Deactivated User
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Posted - Apr 17 2017 : 6:56PM
A good performer will adapt. Katja Kassin was an over the top performer a lot of times and I reviewed her in tame couples only feature from Penthouse and her performance was excellent IIRC.
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StarGrek Deactivated User
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Posted - Apr 17 2017 : 7:36PM
@Flash: Yes "Lana" is actually a feature movie. I can watch everything but like you I love feature all-sex movies, (although they are a lot more difficult to be reviewed). That era between 1980-2000 was a golden era in terms of sexuality. They didn't have the high image quality or the pornographic know how of today but the scenes had a lot of sex appeal and genuine chemistry which is not present nowadays. The actors and actresses were creating the sexual mood through out the movie and not only in the sex scenes themselves.
Nah, the fans won't always just come back. The trick is finding the balance of how often you can piss them off before they say enough is enough and move on to the next thing. To talk about porn specifically, you can only piss off the paying fans so much before they just stop paying and figure out how to watch it for free. You have to balance what you think they want with what you want to do. That being said, the ones that won't let her "be herself" are doing it not because they want to piss off her fans, but because they don't want to piss off theirs. If a company is vanilla, then their fans expect vanilla scenes from them, and allowing her to get wild and dirty for one of their scenes might excite her fans, but it would piss theirs off. Balances have to be struck.
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Posted - Apr 18 2017 : 2:21AM
1) The NFL is a multi-billion dollar league because of the fans. Selling out stadiums, watching games on TV, etc. If fans stopped watching, the TV contracts would be less, player salaries would be less, owners would be making less. When NFL owners move their franchise it's because of fans. Stan Kroenke moved from St. Louis to Los Angeles because there are more people/fans in LA and the people of STL stopped supporting the team. 2) Lana is the product. She is one of the most popular women in the industry. Undoubtedly she makes companies more money than just the average woman in the industry. My point being if fans were to, at some point, pressure directors to let her be herself or they won't watch/buy a scene it might have some impact. Of course, I am not suggesting to hurt Lana in any way. Just saying that fans do have a say because we're the ones who pay for the product.
I think we should nip this argument in the bud right now. I appreciate all the jobs I get hired for & try my hardest for each to make it good. I was merely saying what the difference is from before. sometimes erotica turns out great and fun too! Like my vixen scene. People who like the more hardcore wild Lana will have to wait for the appropriate scenes to be released.
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Posted - Apr 18 2017 : 3:50AM
^ agree. like all your work. there are not enough porn jobs for every girl and people want lana to not accept work because they dont like the shoot style. [o\|]
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Posted - Apr 18 2017 : 4:41AM
^^ Last thing I will say and then we can move on... I was never once suggesting Lana turn down work or anything like that. My only point behind the whole thing was that if fans like something speak up and let it known they like it via social media, etc. Directors may have one vision for something but if fans overwhelmingly like something else, they should listen since we are in a sense putting money in their wallets. That's all.
Just saw a replay periscope of Lana and Riley Reid together I can't wait for that scene to drop! Wondering if it was a b/g/g or gg scene
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Posted - Apr 18 2017 : 5:32AM
First of all, I am glad to notice that, although many of us have different opinions and a unique way to express them, our collected pornographic conscious as posters (if I am allowed to say that) still remains quite high... It is crucial to post what we really think about any matter and criticize productively scenes, actors/actresses and directors! We declare our admiration and our words of encouragement as a reward for their work because this is very important for any artist, but at the same time we testify our honest opinion, in order to be trustworthy. However, our opinion cannot always be totally objective, because in one way or another we are influenced by our personal pornographic preferences. Some people judge a certain scene according to the lack or presence of a specific sexual act(solo, lesbian, anal, IR, DP etc) or a certain male or female matching. Some others they are more accustomed to a specific director or directing approach or they promote a certain element in a porn scene against any other(photography, eroticism, intensity, hardcoreness, roughness, kinkiness etc). But there are many different pornographic genres and several directing approaches which satisfy various adult markets. For example, Greg Lansky directing approach is different from James Avalon's or Ryan Madison's. Mason from Jules Jordan or Joni Darko, Manuel Ferrara from Mike Adriano. Even photographers like Rob from FTV has different concept than Holly Randal or others. Therefore, if we don't try to understand and absorb the CONCEPT and the PHILOSOPHY of each director as well as the impact this one has in each scene, it is not safe to produce general conclusions about any model performance. In other words we can't criticize or condemn a scene if we dont know what the director is trying to show and how the participants absorb his concept. Like other members noted, the job of each actress is to ADOPT her own unique "PERSONA", her own unique sensual identity in every fictional character, every on screen fantasy, every specific demand the director requests and under any on set condition(under APAC approved standards of course). This is the key feature of a great adult actor/actress (even in mainstream cinema). Is this easy? No it is not. It is very very difficult and it is what makes her an ARTIST. If you consider the human factor which in adult scenes is more dominant than any other form of show, that sex itself is a very intimate and physical and creates a multitude of emotions which need to be "controlled" and mastered, the fact that she has to interact with several partners (each having his own unique personality) and create chemistry with, the fact that she has to "direct" herself in front of the lens (adjusting her body according to the camera angles, lighting, between edits), the time and budget which create additional psychological pressure and many other things she needs to take care on set(I am bored to mention), you can understand how difficult and demanding is their task in every scene. But apart from these, there are other things an adult model should always consider and these are not always told. The adult industry is full of traps which can devastate not only her career but her whole life. Yes she should follow directors requests in the scene but it is extremely important to impose and preserve her "image" at the same time, keeping herself from crossing the red lines which will destroy her prestige. You have no idea how easy is to destroy your name in just a few scenes. Yes she should read all of her fans requests and try to fulfill most of the markets but she should also be able to choose her audience wisely, trying not to be carried away by them and refusing politely to do anything that will harm her physically, morally or in any other way. This is the balance every model should keep and sometimes it is hard as walking in a rope. There is a lot of mental work behind each scene folks.
^^Probably B/G/G. Lana doesn't do much G/G, not really what her fans are into.
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Posted - Apr 18 2017 : 7:15AM
So good to see you come back and respond to criticism in an adult way and not fly off the handle or choose not address it at all. I do agree with the poster to a degree and and thrilled to hear your explanation as to why you have toned down the dirty talk in particular. Hoping you will be able to totally let go in the anal scene with Adriano as he seems to totally encourage the filthiest dirty talk. Like you say it's horses for courses though and different companies have different ideas as to what they want in a scene. I personally like you to be as filthy as possible, combined with your exceptional beauty it's what made you stand out in the first place. That very first scene with Adriano when you said you could taste your shit in his mouth, I was like "holy shit, did she just say that?" Please directors let Lana do her thing!
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Damn which scene is that Lana?? That's some Jewel denyle, Taryn Thomas or Sasha Grey level of filthy dirty talk. Just got even more interested in Lana Rhoades. We all already know her love for for taste of an asshole. I am with you all...we need scenes where Lana isn't held back and allowed to do and say what she wants no matter how filthy. That's what would make her special.
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Posted - Apr 18 2017 : 10:37AM
On a related note, I see Lana just started a onlyfans page recently. She can really be totally filthy with her ultra dirty dirty talk, and ass/atm/rim fetish and no one holding her back. It will bring the masses to join...I sure will. So far it looks pretty tame though Lana but it's early days. I am hoping for the best.
Hi Lana, it's great you know exactly what you want to do in porn. Luv your brains (too) :-)
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Posted - Apr 18 2017 : 12:18PM
Exactly what needs to happen, I mean there is no point of extending the discussion, the problem here has been the expectations of people, If you go and watch erotica expecting to see a gonzo type performance there it won't happen. The current scenes Lana has done have been mostly erotica besides the 1 or two Bangbros and NA scenes. The NA scenes have been more or less VR so pretty much Lana was confined with whatever the directors instructions are and on the other hand I have actually liked the two Bangbros scenes because I could see a shade of the previous Lana in there. Now I really want to see the scenes she has earmarked for us in which she says she has been able to give a good performance.
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Posted - Apr 18 2017 : 2:08PM
I'll be waiting for the hardcore and wild Lana that i love so much ... Stay awesome my queen !!
I guess I'm not completely following some of the posts here regarding her content. What is it some posters want her to do? I mean, what hasn't she done already?
TFW you try to change the subject because everyone keeps talking about nonsense that Lana doesn't want you talking about anymore because it's stupid and pointless and it doesn't work...
Looking forward to more anal scenes from Lana.... Just wanted to add my 2c for what it's worth regarding Lana's dirty talk cos I know she reads this thread:
While I love anal porn (including ATM etc) the idea of the performers actually mentioning / alluding to the taste of shit is a major turn-off to me and maybe to many others....I know everyone has different tastes, but I for one hope that future scenes of Lana's are not ruined (for me) by taking the dirty to quite such a (conceptually) scatty level! Edited by - pontiff on 4/19/2017 3:38:16 AM
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Rosco Fuji Deactivated User
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Posted - Apr 19 2017 : 8:43AM
Nice choice of words!
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ChuckTheFreak Deactivated User
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Posted - Apr 19 2017 : 11:50AM
Different strokes for different folks. Some of the biggest most famous anal performers like Sasha Grey, Hillary Scott, Annette Shwartz, Taryn Thomas, among others used to always use such filthy words during their dirty talk. Came natural to them as Lana I assume. Only gained more and more in popularity so won't be any different with Lana. More power to her if she let's loose.
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Posted - Apr 19 2017 : 7:28PM
We as Lana fans are pretty fortunate, Lana shot a bunch of scenes that are considered "hardcore", she shot anal and DP and those scenes were pretty good ... ! I'm still waiting for her gangbang, her blowbang and a double anal scene from her... Other than that, she shot pretty much everything i want to see from her ... That doesn't mean that i don't want more anal or DP scenes from her, Lana's career is just getting started and i'm confident that she'll release many great scenes as her career grows and evolves over time, we are at the beginning of Lana's journey in the industry ... !
Edited by - AlexTheMachine on 4/20/2017 12:03:25 AM
I wouldn't worry too much, not many directors encourage this kind of talk. Mike Adriano is one director who encourages girls to talk as dirty as possible but can't think of many others currently shooting. I personally do like that kind of talk although I've no desire to actually see scat porn
Thanks very much for the reassurance :) Yeah I hoped that would be the case - although I am otherwise very much looking forward to her anal scene with Adriano I personally will keep my fingers crossed that that specific avenue of dirty talk isn't explored! . (I've seen and enjoyed various other Adriano scenes without being exposed to "scatty" talk ;) ) Edited by - pontiff on 4/20/2017 1:02:45 AM
Adriano does encourage the girls to refer to their asshole as "shithole" "shitter" "pooper" etc. if you consider that to be scatty talk. Not that many girls actually do it though. Lana took it a level past that in her scene with her talk of actually tasting shit, which I loved, but she is very much the exception.
^^^Darcie Dolce? So that looks like Lana's 3rd G/G scene of the year. If it releases and she says nothing about it, then I guess it didn't go so well.
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AlexTheMachine Deactivated User
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Posted - Apr 20 2017 : 4:59PM
Beautiful pictures Lana, you look stunning my queen ... !
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Posted - Apr 20 2017 : 5:32PM
^ You really do not need to quote the whole thing, specially with pictures, it clutters the whole page. Just use the ^ key...but ya Lana is looking stunning!!
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Posted - Apr 20 2017 : 6:36PM
I liked the fact that she is paired with Darcie, they were discussing it for a very long time and I pretty think that is a G/G scene. The current photos are... ok but I am afraid that I have to admit that I prefer her older look as she appeared in zishy photos. In both shoots. She looked a lot more natural and beautiful. I am sorry sweetie but I am honest. Meanwhile... Explore Sexuality!
Personally, I don't think Darcie Dolce is a very good girl-girl performer. She always seem somewhat detached, and her pleasure over played. However, it good to see Lana do some more girl-girl scenes. Aya, says she's only shot 3 this year. That's not many at all. Hopefully she starts shooting girl-girl content more frequently so she can grow her skills and her repertoire. She's still a new performer, with many skills to learn, but she's learning quickly.
^It would be nice if she shot more G/G, but both her fans and the industry are really only interested in her B/G work. And she will do less and less G/G as time goes by. She only did like 7 G/G scenes last year, and we'll get about that much this year if we're lucky. And yeah, Darcie Dolce phones it in a lot, but if "wild Lana" is allowed to come out and play, Darcie will have nowhere to hide.
Stargrek, I like that older, more natural, ZISHY look. But if Lana likes her new look better, who are we to comment. It takes courage to do what porn performers do, and to do so I'm sure they need to feel as confident as possible. I just hope Lana is happier this time around. As Lana's popularity grows, as does the pressure on Lana I presume. I know no one here deliberately pressures Lana, but we can ask a lot at times, and it would be difficult to manage these hopes and expectations of fans. We should always remember that last year, Lana's involvement in the adult industry almost brought her undone. She was physically and mentally unwell. Depressed. She used to finish every day sad and in tears.
^^ Aya: "Darcie will have nowhere to hide." GREAT LINE :) I'm hoping someone pairs Lana with Angela White or Abella Danger or Valentina Nappi. In short, a more experienced, more aggressive female co-star. I think Lana could learn a lot from performing alongside such girls.
Our gorgeous goddess! Just to think that in a few days, Lana will be shooting an Anal scene with Mike Adriano and her asshole will be gaping so beautifully wide for us
Yeah, not a fan of any of it, but can just about handle the standard Adriano level of talk you mention....I personally am just hoping Lana won't take the talk to her previous "scatty" level in her upcoming anal scene with him as, for me, it would ruin a super anticipated scene.
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Posted - Apr 21 2017 : 7:06AM
you know you can post without quoting the previous posts?
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