When you go work for a studio who's main product is double anals; I am not sure how anyone can be unaware about it and then be coerced into it when faced with a cancellation and no paycheck if they refuse. Anyone who works there should be pretty clear what they do and why they are there. Does someone who is vegan get a job at a butcher shop, then are shocked that meat is being sold there and we should feel sorry for them being exploited for a paycheck? There is enough work out there for girls that you don't HAVE to do DAP with Legal Porno. If you love how much they pay, you already like anal, and you figure you can tough it out through the DAP, why not? It is a decision to be made. People take painkillers to get through their construction jobs because it is hard on the back; people take painkillers every day after playing hard sports. Why is it so evil that LP offers an anal cream to make DAP more comfortable for those women who's anus's are not stretched out enough to handle it? Seems like a good solution to me. These creams are harmless. ANd, if you look at their DAP performers, the vast majority of them come back for more scenes. Those are not the actions of people exploited or tricked. For someone who has never had anal before, that can hurt just as much as an anal performer doing their first double anal. Are people outraged at first anals in porn? No, of course not. People see this sex act and since they don't know anyone who does it they just can't fathom people doing it and create this conspiracy that people are being exploited. Edited by - A_Fan on 11/5/2016 2:46:13 AM
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Posted - Nov 5 2016 : 2:46AM
^ A cream may be 'harmless' but the numbing can lead to serious tearing and damage as you're turning off your bodies warning signals regarding that damage. Also if they are taking other painkillers that is more serious as use of illegal drugs on set are an obviously bad idea.
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Posted - Nov 5 2016 : 2:48AM
Then please tell everyone in the NFL, MMA, construction, and any manual labor job who are taking pain pills at night, to please retire now from all this exploitation and danger. Please tell runners to stop that activity as they need pain killers and surgeries for their knees and hips and backs. People undertake activities every day that wear on the body, that is part of human existence. Heck, how many of these girls smoke and are willingly cutting years off their lifespan? You worry about an anal tear more than a destroyed pair of lungs or a rotten liver? If someone wants to make 3500 dollars doing a double anal scene with Legal Porno, let them do it. It is not exploitation under those circumstances. Edited by - A_Fan on 11/5/2016 2:51:29 AM
I'm kind of in agreement with A-Fan. We often draw parallels between porn performers and professional athletes. I've heard many reports of pro-NFL players getting injections to numb the pain from injuries during games. If a performer uses a cream or injection knowingly, without any coercion, how should we feel about that?
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Posted - Nov 5 2016 : 11:07AM
I don't know if the models are given painkillers, but I do know that if a performer does not experience sexual pleasure for herself during a scene, she may experience pleasure in other ways. What about the pleasure of accomplishment? What about the pleasure of performance? What about the ego-pleasure of being the center of attention? Etc. Performers in general rarely even orgasm during their work. Doesn't mean that they aren't getting off in other ways. Edited by - misspornUSA on 11/5/2016 11:13:20 AM
^ Agreed. I know I say this all the time, but this is sex WORK. To view it otherwise does a massive disservice to the men and women involved. It also perpetuates this idea in some porn viewers' minds that what's happening on screen is some sort of real, organic interaction and not a performance. That doesn't mean there is no pleasure and no organic content--just think about your own workplace and you will recognize this.
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Posted - Nov 5 2016 : 12:42PM
^Well said, and I sometimes wonder if the "idea in some porn viewers' minds that what's happening on screen is some sort of real, organic interaction and not a performance" is part of what prevents porn from receiving mainstream recognition as a performance art.
^ It absolutely does. When I do hear average people talk about porn they often say things to the effect of it's an easy job for lazy women. They just have to lay there and get fucked. The idea that some effort is involved and that it is physically taxing doesn't occur to most people.
1-Please do not equal doing porn with any other job than prostitution and even that can be argued is a stretch. 2-On what planet does a porn performer make the kind of money a professional player makes? 3-The only pro or semi-pro sport players that can be considered to have it worse than porn performers are college football players who put their future on the line for very little money while the schools, the coaches make a killing.
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Posted - Nov 5 2016 : 8:35PM
Actually this example came to mind but I didn't want to get too OT. I'm well aware of this practice, it goes back to the 70s and the NFL player and writer Peter Gent writes about how players are pressured by coaches and owners to shoot up and go out and play with numbed injuries and further tear up and often permanently injure their legs and arms due to it. The average NFL player dies in their mid-50s. Hardly a situation that endores it being repeated in pornography. Not to mention porn performers are not making the millions that tthose in the NFL are. And finally, if they are taking painkillers beyond cremes at Legal Porno you know they are not being administered by legal prescription and doctors as in the NFL. 'No drugs on set' was a truism for directors in porn going back to the 70s. Now that didn't prevent performers from going off on their own and using drugs in the bathroom but to maintain a professional attitude on set is is obviously essential. Not to mention the questions of consent, safety and abuse the director is opening themselves up to by not just allowing it but actually enabling it. And I never claimed it wasn't a job but once one has to take painkilling drugs to accomplish an act others are jerking off to a certain cognitive dissonance sets in. A viewer is not getting off to the female performer feeling a sense of accomplishment, they are getting off to a display of pleasure. The pleasure doesn't need to be authentic but if the levels of subterfuge are stretched (literally) to these extremes the term absurd certainly feels warranted.
pat362, I believe that the analogy between porn performers and athletes is apt. They put their bodies on the line in way that I imagine is pretty removed from the daily experiences of most prostitutes. But maybe NFL players aren't the appropriate frame of reference. I'd say they're probably closer to wrestlers (of the WWE variety.) You and BlackSix make a good point about the risks vs. the rewards. I agree, it's much more sensible for a pro athlete who is pulling in millions to use painkilling drugs than it is for a porn performer making far, far less. But lots of people do things that often don't make much sense to me. People drink to excess despite the risks of liver disease, eat unhealthy foods despite the risks of heart disease, etc. If a performer is aware of the potential risks and isn't being coerced, I have a hard time getting worked up over it. But BlackSix brought up a legitimate concern about these drugs not being administered by a doctor, without an appropriate prescription. Performers could be getting improper dosages or be at risk of some kind of allergic reaction. However, if a performer did get a prescription from a doctor and was allowed to self-administer the medication, I'd be fine with that. Guys on porn sets have been shooting up their dicks with caverject in order to perform for some time, I don't see how self-administering pain meds would be all that different. Edited by - Mister Fahrenheit on 11/5/2016 9:04:31 PM
For the record the actress which Im talking about (Im not giving you names cause I dont want to damage her name) was fully aware about the DAP, the only thing Im trying the viewers to be aware of is the promotion of desentizing stuff and painkillers by LP....so def agree on your last sentence with BlackSix and as well with Mister Fahrenheit's analogy of NHL players wont add up. Cmon the majority are Eastern EU girls with not a really bright future. If a studio says offers a sexual act for a lot more money, ofcourse they agree. And @A_FAN that there is more than enough work for them besides DAP & LP is ofcourse BS. As well as the argument 'that girls come back to shoot scenes' and making 3500 bucks per scene (you serious think a newcommer girl which do DAP makes that amount of money?). ANyways, I dont think LP is the only studio working this way and I didnt want to bash LP but just be aware of looking at these scenes just what BlackSix wrote: but if the levels of subterfuge are stretched (literally) to these extremes the term absurd certainly feels warranted.
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Posted - Nov 5 2016 : 9:55PM
How many EE girls in porn can make a living without doing Anal, DAP, TAP, etc? Only the very most beautiful girls can get away with that. Those porn girls that are average looking have to go for the harder acts to make a decent living and get work.
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Posted - Nov 5 2016 : 11:11PM
^^^^I can't speak for viewers in general, but if I watch, say, a Grandi gangbang, I do so in order to experience impressive acts of sexual athleticism vicariously through the women who star in those scenes. In Grandi's rougher scenes I identify with both the woman/women as well as the men. Although there are ordinary sexual elements in those scenes that I respond to, I'm not really looking for the pleasure of sexual passion in this content.
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Posted - Nov 6 2016 : 3:16PM
And that is their choice. There are many other options in the world to build a career, they are not forced into porn. (don't start a trafficking tangent, we are talking about legal and paid performers). So, if an "average" looking girl (whatever you mean by that), needs to take Anal and DP and DAP scenes in order to achieve her income goals, that is her choice, isn't it? If she doesn't like to film anal scenes or hardcore scenes, and she can't get work doing the things she wants to do, then perhaps another career is in the cards. Nobody is entitled to make a living in any career, we all have to work hard at one and if we are not suited for it, we chose another. I would love to get paid to play soccer in the EPL. Should I demand they stop playing "so hard" so a guy my age can get out there and score a goal? No, I accept i can't make it in that career and chose another one. People seem to be taking the angle something like "They are forced to do extreme anal scenes at Legal Porno because they cant make a living otherwise"..... if that truly is the case, then the choice is make the best career and take the work, or , move into a new career. Producers should not stop making certain porn because a particular performer can't get work. I also find it interesting that my performer and smoking comparison was ignored. I find it hard to feel sorry for people who get a work injury when they are willingly consuming poison. I think your regard for your health is already suspect if you are a regular smoker like many performers are. Edited by - A_Fan on 11/6/2016 3:18:17 PM
That's what you, Mister Fahrenheit, and Gores Gore Girl for using your brains and thinking every one thinks the way you do Haven't we all been on this site long enough to see that the "she did it on camera so she must love it," idea has been the most common argument for some people?!?? The still think it is their own personal Fantasy come true.
^ wOw! Mina is really hot, really love this girl Watched the scene, couldn't help from blowing a huge load half way through. Her ass was gaping so deliciously and her face was so cute!
MOD: Piracy is not condoned here. Support the adult movie companies and purchase your adult material instead of stealing it. Edited by - Flash on 12/12/2016 5:25:28 PM
Americans are crushing it at legalporno lately. After Casey Calvert's scene being #22 on their all time best sellers Veronica Avluv's scene is #16 after only a couple of days! That's crazy considering the amount of scenes they shoot. And they still have a ton in the can: AJ Applegate, Jennifer White, Maddy Oreilly, Britney Amber, Ella Nova... Tons of unreleased scenes with most of them having shot 10on1 gangbangs! I hope the trend continues and they keep bringing more girls from America. They keep this up and the industry in the US is gonna have a problem. Legalporno have been amazing. They are the end boss of porn. They're making some Heisenberg blue crystal while everyone else is still selling aspirins.
^^ It's always so exciting to see American girls come to get their assholes banged so hard at LP!! They can explore and reach up to limits not allowed in the US
Yesterday I was asking on her thread if Daniella Margot does anal and LegalPorno responded by uploading her anal and DP scene. The magic of LP!!! Daniella Margot at LP Edited by - lone wolf on 12/14/2016 9:44:41 PM
. " They are the end boss of porn. They're making some Heisenberg blue crystal while everyone else is still selling aspirins. " hahahahaha something like that
This is one damn creative scene on LegalPorno: Vampires trailer Really like the concept and the some of the girls are so damn hot! Would like to get all the complete names, the scene description says only this: Evelina is the Vampire, Kira and Emily the nuns and Francys with Gabriella the disposable slaves. Can anyone help?
^ Welp. I guess this will be my very first LP scene. Can't say I'm going in with much enthusiasm, but I am hoping for the best based on missporn's commentary. I will report back.
^ I think you're right GG! The cumming in the glass and making her drink it. They scooped that one right out of me ole brain alright I'll curse myself forever if I don't get this!
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Posted - Dec 16 2016 : 9:54AM
^^Congrats! I can't vouch for the scene myself yet (hopefully I'll get to watch it over the weekend) but I expect it to be a great scene and I hope that you like it.
who is this hot milf?I just watched her scene for legalporno and I can tell you it just made me crazy.her innocent face and smile is killing me.I dont find her full name(nika what?) or more scenes.Can someone help me please... http://www.legalporno.com/model/3402/nika Edited by - alex2200 on 1/3/2017 5:48:27 PM
It keeps amazing me... so many hot girls... lots of nasty sex.. but not a single kiss between the girls. Please pump me until the scene is over... such a shame
Can a member confirm something : Are 'ex premium' scenes free for all members to download ? Looks like scenes that are March 2015 or earlier. Thanks in advance
Regarding ex-premium scenes.... A member uses "free tickets" to purchase the scenes. One free ticket is acquired for each day of membership. Until sometime in 2016 I believe, scenes would become ex-premium after 1 year. Then that time frame changed to 1.5 years. Then more recently (around September 2016) that time frame changed again to 2 years. However, it appears that LP has backed off of that somewhat, although they never really do announce this type of thing to their members, either in email or in the forums. (At least I never saw such announcements) The current range appears to once again be 1.5 years. There are also scenes that originated with NoRestForTheAss.com from 2008-2014. Those scenes are indeed free for LP members. Once you are no longer a member, there is a fee of around 1-2 tickets (or the equivalent dollar amount) for those scenes.
I'm including a link to all the free scenes on LP in case no one answers you . I'm sure you know that when I say free I mean that you don't have to use your tokens to purchase them because they are free for paying members. http://www.legalporno.com/free-videos Good luck trying to figure out which are free and which aren't because they don't really make it easy. That or stuff released today is actually free to members and I have a hard time believing that.
Haven't we all been on this site long enough to see that the "she did it on camera so she must love it," idea has been the most common argument for some people?!?? The still think it is their own personal Fantasy come true.
I can't vouch for the scene myself yet (hopefully I'll get to watch it over the weekend) but I expect it to be a great scene and I hope that you like it.