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| pat362 Senior Member 10083 Posts 3/10 |  Posted - Dec 25 2017 : 3:04PM[Link] |
| pat362 Senior Member 10083 Posts 3/10 | Posted - Dec 25 2017 : 3:16PM [Link] |
| RicoEvilAngel Senior Member ^ Alexis Texas in Buttman's Stretch Class #4 1348 Posts 12/15 | Posted - Dec 25 2017 : 10:05PM Thanks  [Link] |
| pat362 Senior Member 10083 Posts 3/10 | Posted - Dec 25 2017 : 11:16PM [Link] |
| IamVanNostrand New Member 3 Posts 12/17 | Posted - Dec 26 2017 : 2:57PM BTW this girl is ghost, I have seen her account on Twitter, Facebook , Instagram (Insta is mostly for US and UK) but still. Any idea if she does escorts? If yes where to find updates. [Link] |
| Mass Facialties Deactivated User "Facialized Vol. 7" 2021 AVN Awards Winner: Best Oral Movie 9308 Posts 9/13 | Posted - Dec 26 2017 : 9:27PM I had never purchased tickets for Legal Porno before until I finally did so back in September, when I purchased the 1 month/35 tickets membership for $29.90. The charge showed up on my billing statement as GTFCHARGE.COM PRAGUE. For the record, I'm an American and I'm not sure if the billing processor for the site would be something different for those purchasing tickets outside of the U.S. Oh, and when it came time to cancel (that membership is a recurring one), the process was quick and easy. [Link] |
| Mass Facialties Deactivated User "Facialized Vol. 7" 2021 AVN Awards Winner: Best Oral Movie 9308 Posts 9/13 | Posted - Dec 26 2017 : 10:50PM Super slut Aidra Fox takes 3 dicks we filled every hole a MUST SEE!!!!!!! Airtight / DP / DBJ / Gapes / A2P AA003  [Link] |
| InstantClassic Senior Member What Have You Done To My Little Cable Boy? 2966 Posts 5/10 | Posted - Dec 27 2017 : 3:04AM [Link] |
| Strongbad Senior Member 1481 Posts 5/07 | Posted - Dec 27 2017 : 10:17AM than for example Hardx/Darkx or other of the established sites if they will continue like they started. Abella Danger, Ashley Adams and Haley Reed seem to be booked already [Link] |
| a_2011 Deactivated User 307 Posts 10/17 | Posted - Dec 27 2017 : 12:41PM [Link] |
| pornboy69 Deactivated User 3855 Posts 9/13 | Posted - Dec 27 2017 : 1:08PM [Link] |
| pat362 Senior Member 10083 Posts 3/10 | Posted - Dec 27 2017 : 7:00PM [Link] |
| Fred Norris Member 535 Posts 8/12 | Posted - Dec 27 2017 : 9:24PM [Link] |
| Mass Facialties Deactivated User "Facialized Vol. 7" 2021 AVN Awards Winner: Best Oral Movie 9308 Posts 9/13 | Posted - Dec 27 2017 : 11:14PM [Link] |
| Dread Senior Member Latex and boobs 5085 Posts 3/07 | Posted - Dec 28 2017 : 12:03AM ----Dread's Twitter---- [Link] |
| InstantClassic Senior Member What Have You Done To My Little Cable Boy? 2966 Posts 5/10 | Posted - Dec 28 2017 : 3:24AM [Link] |
| pat362 Senior Member 10083 Posts 3/10 | Posted - Dec 28 2017 : 1:38PM Where you are I disagree is that I don't think many people will be willing to waste their tickets on content they can find on other sites for less money than what LP charges. Currently only Lola Fae was a dp virgin. Every other American or British performers to have worked with American Anal aren't. In fact most of them have more than one. [Link] |
| IamVanNostrand New Member 3 Posts 12/17 | Posted - Dec 29 2017 : 3:33PM [Link] |
| IamVanNostrand New Member 3 Posts 12/17 | Posted - Dec 29 2017 : 3:57PM [Link] |
| Anal-Porn Archivist Member Ass-obsessed 274 Posts 2/15 | Posted - Dec 29 2017 : 4:21PM [Link] |
| InstantClassic Senior Member What Have You Done To My Little Cable Boy? 2966 Posts 5/10 | Posted - Dec 29 2017 : 4:55PM [Link] |
| Ovidius Member 94 Posts 10/04 | Posted - Dec 29 2017 : 5:09PM [Link] |
| Edge Man Member 69 Posts 7/16 | Posted - Dec 29 2017 : 5:11PM I miss the Giorgio of pre-2017 Edited by - Edge Man on 12/29/2017 9:10:12 PM [Link] |
| Alexa May fan Member 151 Posts 1/10 | Posted - Dec 29 2017 : 7:08PM [Link] |
| InstantClassic Senior Member What Have You Done To My Little Cable Boy? 2966 Posts 5/10 | Posted - Dec 30 2017 : 4:13AM Edited by - InstantClassic on 12/30/2017 4:14:28 AM [Link] |
| cavarra Member 758 Posts 6/10 | Posted - Dec 30 2017 : 6:28AM https://www.legalporno.com/best-videos/2017/12 Aidra Fox scene, in spite of being a simple DP scene, is the best selling scene after the Christmas orgy. On the other hand, Charlotte Sartre's "degrading" scene, in spite of being very extreme, is also selling extremely well. Linda Sweet's new movie, in spite of her 50+ scenes, is still among the most sold (Gina Gerson too is well-positioned). Edited by - cavarra on 12/30/2017 11:06:30 AM [Link] |
| Edge Man Member 69 Posts 7/16 | Posted - Dec 30 2017 : 9:53AM For Giorgio it all boils down to money. My thinking is he'd rather not invest the time and money to grow and cultivate a beauty for fear she'll be stolen away by other producers (he's hinted at this too in the thread). [Link] |
| pat362 Senior Member 10083 Posts 3/10 | Posted - Dec 30 2017 : 12:29PM For Giorgio it all boils down to money. My thinking is he'd rather not invest the time and money to grow and cultivate a beauty for fear she'll be stolen away by other producers (he's hinted at this too in the threa Before I begin let me first say that I think Giorgio is an amazing pornographer who has developed a certain style that is hard to copy. it may not be everyone's cup of tea but he does have a vocal fan base willing to pay a lot for his brand of porn. What he is not is a good businessman. He has had a few failed websites and he shafted many people out of their hard earned money by being duplicitous. That said let's address some of the points he wrote. 1-He implies that studios like Red Light and Platinum X were shooting content that is as hard as what LP does and that is a load of crap. Nobody was doing DAP on a daily basis, weekly or even a monthly basis. Anal and DP was as hard as it got and you still had only a select few performers that did most of those things. The only difference between North American and European performers is that most European performers were likely to at least do anal and many also do dp in their career while their NA counterpart might never do either. 2-He implies that girls have more option today than porn like prostitution but there were plenty of performers that used to escort a decade ago. The difference is that the company he works for has screwed every other porn studios out of millions of dollars in revenue to the point where they either closed their door, got bought out or reduce their production and that's why the girls today have to find other source of income like prostitution. The only positive thing that is happening today is that performers can now do cam shows/private videos that are often quite lucrative and don't require that they get two dicks shoved in their ass. 3-I agree that the cost of living is significantly higher today than a decade ago but in a normal industry the salaries would have gone up to partially compensate for the increase in cost of living but again companies like LP and Mindgeek fucked every other studio out of millions of dollars in revenue and that's why the ones that have stayed alive have had to find various ways to stay profitable and that means charging less for a membership now than a decade a go, dropping the budget on production and paying the talent less than they might have hoped for in an healthier industry. 4-Unless European agencies are very different than the ones in North America than exactly how can one steal talent from the other when the performer has signed a contract. Is it possible that there are so few jobs available that girls simply work for every agency possible in the hope that they get enough job offers to make a living? The bottom line is that the owners of tube sites fucked with a lucrative industry to the point where it's only lucrative to them and not many others and whatever norms used to apply no longer do because they fucked with the system. Giorgio should know how the industry used to be because most of what he produced for his own sites is now on LP's. [Link] |
| cavarra Member 758 Posts 6/10 | Posted - Dec 31 2017 : 9:37AM I think I understand what Giorgio Grandi said and what you described as a load of crap: basically, LP's business model was to fill a gap in the porn market, i.e. the low production rate of certain types of scenes (i.e. DPs, DAPs, gang bangs, bukkakes, watersport, but even simple BBBG or BBG) which are increasingly becoming a rarity (or an "event") in the western porn scene. At least until mid-2000s you had every option to see your favorite actress in any sort of non-vanilla gonzo situation, from gangbangs to rough stuff, and 1to1 scenes were rarer than others; now you have piles of actresses which make a whole career of vanilla 1to1 scenes, and 1to1 vaginal scenes (with some rare BGG from time to time) are the standard for most American websites. I don't think LP users are necessarily into DAPs; a share of them, me included, are simply annoyed from the standard US contents, especially compared to the ones from a decade ago. [Link] |
| pat362 Senior Member 10083 Posts 3/10 | Posted - Dec 31 2017 : 6:33PM It's hard to know what LP's true impact on the European porn scene could have been seeing has they basically have not had any serious competition in many years. The days when DDF, 21Sextury and a slew of other Eastern European porn sites were any real threat to anyone are long gone. Why do you think Stephan was able to buy DDF and 21Sextury? It's certainly not because they were making money like crazy. His business model is similar to Mindgeek. Kill the industry and then sweep in and buy the companies with content for pocket change and then you can upload it to your tube sites without fear of getting accused of stealing it when that's exactly what you first did to destroy those companies. I think Giorgio is probably the most popular LP director and at one point had his own websites and yet he no longer owns his content but he is stuck at having to work for LP. *Please do not use the term "VANILLA" to describe the kind of porn todays performers can do because that's simply wrong.* Vanilla porn is either a mild b/g(vaginal only), g/g or solo scene. Anything else is hardcore. So if there is anal penetration like the kind Tushy does then it's not vanilla but what is now called artcore. Even a vaginal multiple partner scene is either artcore or hardcore but it is not vanilla. Most performers in the last 5 years have had to choose between shooting hardcore porn or leaving the industry. In fact most performers will shoot only hardcore porn and still have to leave because there isn't enough work to go around. Now if you disagree with me about vanilla porn than name me the 10 studios that shoot primarily only vanilla porn. P.S: In case we don't speak until tomorrow than have an Happy New Year. [Link] |
| Ovidius Member 94 Posts 10/04 | Posted - Dec 31 2017 : 6:43PM Stephan, if you read this, I lift my glass and salute you! You are a man to be reckoned with! I am looking forward to see what you will do. And, please, amaze me. [Link] |
| cavarra Member 758 Posts 6/10 | Posted - Jan 1 2018 : 4:38AM Happy new year to you! I have taken note of the difference between hardcore, artcore and vanilla, even if personally, I find more hardcore/hard/hot a vaginal BBG scene than an anal 1to1 scene, but this is just my POV. I understand your point and I see the difference between Tushy and Naughty America, but for my tastes there is not a big difference, and I suspect it is the same for many LP consumers. This does not change the substance of my opinion, i.e. that LP filled a big gap in the western market. Minus niche Kink's Hardcoregangbang, US companies stopped to regularly shoot DPs, gang bangs, or even BBG scenes. Let alone gangbangs, a standard DP is becoming an "event", outside LP even major anal-specialist actresses shoot just three or a couple DPs in a year. Simplier vaginal BBG scenes, which were once common, are basically disappearing (side note sometimes I read that it is a question of cost, but theorically BGG aren't cheaper, yet they are produced with some regularity). The big difference between MindGeek and LP is that MindGeek is accomplice and responsible of this standardization of the US/Western porn, LP was smart enough to take advantage of it proposing something different from others for a specific audience which had been left out without many offers. If Lansky or whoever else want to change something and start a website which regularly features either vaginal or anal BBG / BBBG scenes, it would be this alone a great shift in the actual US panorama. I don't think LP's success can just be explained with the (deplorable) tube's ownship, LP contents and its buying system (the tickets system) are way more decisive, IMHO. Considering LP money comes from a single purchase of a singular scene, if the system was not successful Stephan would had alredy turned it into a traditional monthly subscription with cheaper-to-produce scenes. I think the tickets system is absolutely smart, and I am pretty certain it pays back very well. Basically when you buy a scene you are very motivated as you don't just buy for it (which you would probably find pirated elsewhere), but you also pay in advance for another scene with that actress/those characteristics. If you take a look at the LP forum, you can see how much attention Stephan, GG and the others pay to the scenes which sold well (whose actresses are likely to return) and to the ones which disappoint. This complicity between producers and consumers is the most effective weapon possible to piracy. [Link] |
| pat362 Senior Member 10083 Posts 3/10 | Posted - Jan 1 2018 : 12:37PM The reason why almost every other company has stopped or drastically slowed down the filming of DP or gang bang scenes is that they cost too much to produce and the studios don't make enough profit from them. I did a quick estimate of the cost for one week of LP scenes. I picked the last week of December so that's 14 scene between Dec 25 to Dec 31. I used 400$ as the cost for each man in the scene regardless of what he does in the scene. I allocated more money if the scene stars a new girl or an American, I gave more money if it has a DAP, more money if it has anal fisting and also more money if it has pissing. So here are my estimate for each scene Dec 31: 4800$, Dec 31 2700$, Dec 30: 2700$ American, Dec 30: 3000$ new girl, Dec 29: 5400$ Monica Santiago gangbang, Dec 29: 4000$(for this one I basically added the cost of the two scenes and then divided by two because it's part 1 of a 2 part scene, Dec 28: 3800$ American, Dec 28: 3500$, Dec 27: 2700$ American, Dec 27: 2800$, Dec 26: 2800$, Dec 26: 3600$ It has pissing, Dec 25: 16000$ it's a 10 women/10 men orgy, Dec 25: 4000$. If you add all of these together than you get an amount of 61800$ and that's only for the talent. I didn't add the cost of the camera operators, cost of equipment(if it applies) and anything else because I wouldn't know what it is. If we multiple that amount by 52 weeks than LP needs to make more than 3.2 million dollars each year to just pay for talent and I suspect that my cost may be a little too low for the talent. I argue that no company can produce that kind of expensive content and still survive if it doesn't get money from illegal sources to compensate. [Link] |
| Anal-Porn Archivist Member Ass-obsessed 274 Posts 2/15 | Posted - Jan 2 2018 : 4:12PM Your assumptions and estimations do not convince me. Since the content offered by Legal Porno is indeed quite unique, I'm pretty sure there are enough perverts who like this kind of extreme porn and who are able and willing to pay the relatively high prices per scene to make Legal Porno profitable on its own. And as for the tube sites: I don't like them either. But the problem is that jurisdiction does not consider them as illegal. Edited by - Anal-Porn Archivist on 1/2/2018 4:13:43 PM [Link] |
| Mass Facialties Deactivated User "Facialized Vol. 7" 2021 AVN Awards Winner: Best Oral Movie 9308 Posts 9/13 | Posted - Jan 3 2018 : 10:59PM  [Link] |
| A_Fan Deactivated User 1187 Posts 9/16 | Posted - Jan 4 2018 : 4:11AM [Link] |
| InstantClassic Senior Member What Have You Done To My Little Cable Boy? 2966 Posts 5/10 | Posted - Jan 4 2018 : 4:13AM https://www.legalporno.com/watch/33033/9on1_double_anal_gang_bang_with_evelina_darling_balls_deep_anal_intense_dap_more_dap_9  That's exactly the same scene. Some clothes, same teasing, same action..just a different girl. Guess GG is a little bit burned out. [Link] |
| dexrex13 Member 135 Posts 3/16 | Posted - Jan 4 2018 : 9:28AM [Link] |
| A_Fan Deactivated User 1187 Posts 9/16 | Posted - Jan 5 2018 : 12:44AM But a couple of times a week they hit gold with a scene and makes it worth it :) [Link] |
| alex2200 Member 108 Posts 12/16 | Posted - Jan 5 2018 : 6:08AM https://www.legalporno.com/model/3775/joanna_bujoli https://www.legalporno.com/watch/33421/merry_xmas_joanna_bujoli_enjoys_black_cocks_iv137 another scene for rocco: https://www.roccosiffredi.fr/Live-Shows-September-Episode-1-part-3-scene-7QDDICae.html joanna bujoli instagram page: [Link] |
| alex2200 Member 108 Posts 12/16 | Posted - Jan 5 2018 : 6:23AM |
| terrybb Member 98 Posts 10/16 | Posted - Jan 5 2018 : 8:41PM His girl on girl scenes with 3-4 guys were amazing movies. He found some great new actresses with amazing anal skills and for me has now taken over the throne of King Anal from Adriano. I still love Mike's videos but they have lost the funny pervy edge. If you like pervy anal then please check out these girls and you will enjoy. Please take the time to look at his movies with Anna Rey, Rebbeca Sharon, Anya Akulova, Selvaggia, Maddison Lush,Jureka Del Mar. Also getting the best out of girls like Angie Moon, Dominica Phoenix, Brittany Bardot, May Thai, Sash Zima who have been on the scene a while. Keep up the good work Giorgio I am looking forward to 2018 and your forever evolving porn movies. [Link] |
| alex2200 Member 108 Posts 12/16 | Posted - Jan 6 2018 : 7:15AM Could you please name the specific scene of this actresses with LP code(like SZ174). This girls have numerous movies. [Link] |
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| BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07 | Posted - Jan 6 2018 : 8:35AM [Link] |
| Edge Man Member 69 Posts 7/16 | Posted - Jan 6 2018 : 9:44AM May Thai [Link] |
| terrybb Member 98 Posts 10/16 | Posted - Jan 7 2018 : 4:57AM May Thai is stunning, even Mr Rocco agrees. [Link] |
| alex2200 Member 108 Posts 12/16 | Posted - Jan 7 2018 : 5:30AM [Link] |
| Lenny Voyeur Senior Member It's the ass, stupid! 8504 Posts 2/07 | Posted - Jan 7 2018 : 7:46AM [Link] |
| Anal-Porn Archivist Member Ass-obsessed 274 Posts 2/15 | Posted - Jan 7 2018 : 8:45AM That's racist bullshit. [Link] |
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