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Draxxx
Senior Member

3831 Posts
2/07
Posted - Jun 22 2019 : 11:18AM
I'm not surprised that LP fans can watch the same women appear doing the same thing over and over because like so many porn fans those fans seem to be much more about the sex act moreso than the women. I think they just want to see a body getting stuffed. They're into that sex act. I'd say the number of penises plowing into a butt is the most important aspect of those scenes for most of LP fans. Dick size is more important than the actual performers and even performance. They don't care about the looks of the girl. I definitely don't think they care if the girl is enjoying themselves. I don't think they care about creativity in the scene. As long as the camera catches the act of multiple penises in and out the girl's holes rapidly, I think those fans are content. Of course there are fans who complain about the old stuff being better. But if you notice they stick around and keep watching the stuff they claim isn't that good anymore.

None of this is unusual though. It seems most fans on this site are all about the sex act or director moreso than the girls. Actually, for many fans the male talent is more important than the girls. Seems like many fans here care most about dick size, sex acts, and directors more than the girls. The girls are just objects to do things to. I'm pretty much the opposite. With me the girl is far more important to me. I will follow a girl as she jumps from studio to studio. That girl will give a different type of performance from studio to studio. So I don't get bored with porn or have the types of complaints that many people have here because I'm always watching a wide variety of scenes. There are studios that I acknowledge do great stuff but that great stuff doesn't mean anything to me if it's not a girl I have an interest in watching.

drdd75
Senior Member

1409 Posts
3/16
Posted - Jun 22 2019 : 2:46PM
I can't explain it either, but from what I've observed, if you go to the LP forum, it has a completely different atmosphere compared to this adult dvd talk forum. 80% of the users on that LP forum would have been banned over here long time ago. They are really aggressive and disrespectful with the way they post. Their avatars are completely hardcore with no soul at all. Maybe the forum describes the type of fanbase LP appeals to.

Edited by - drdd75 on 6/22/2019 2:48:34 PM

Pitbull67
Senior Member

6725 Posts
12/15
Posted - Jun 22 2019 : 5:39PM
^ ^^ ^^^ You guys make me laugh! You have no idea what LP fans really think or like so don't waste your time trying to psychoanalyse it! Your characterisation of the site and the scenes is a complete distortion. If there weren't plenty of pornfans who like the content because of their own personal preferences the site would fold.....and there's no sign of that. If you don't like the site or their particular niche then just don't watch it.
tacticalpiss
Member

276 Posts
2/10
Posted - Jun 22 2019 : 7:58PM
Can't speak for all the other LP fans. However, I am a fan of LP because it produces quality anal degradation/ganbang stuff with great facial or cim finishes. As I stated earlier This kind of content that hasn't really been pumped out by anyone since the golden dvd era of porn. So they definitely fill a niche in my opinion.

I think LP takes influence from European producers like Yves Le Castel, Christopher Clark, and Rocco. American examples could include max hardcore, Jim Powers, Skeeter Kerkove or even Jules Jordan. These producers are either no longer operating or no longer producing content as extreme as the stuff they used to produce.

 
drdd75
Senior Member

1409 Posts
3/16
Posted - Jun 22 2019 : 8:15PM
^ tacticalpiss you are so correct. Evil Angel and Elegant Angel in its prime used to do the same thing too, and like InstantClassic said, in America they used to find that hardcore anal talent with bigger boobs, bigger asses, and curvier waist-hip ratios. Even with LP today, you don't get those type of models often, it's usually the slimmer models. However, it's a cycle like I said before. Someday that era might return to glory.
drdd75
Senior Member

1409 Posts
3/16
Posted - Jun 22 2019 : 8:18PM
^^^ I like a LP scene once in awhile, but it was never my favorite from the beginning, I never said I hated LP completely. The LP forum is really annoying tho.
InstantClassic
Senior Member

What Have You Done To My Little Cable Boy?
2966 Posts
5/10
Posted - Jun 23 2019 : 3:11AM
I don't know about the girls. But I don't think the content will change anymore. I'm not an expert, but I think it's a matter of money. I'd say Jules Jordan is the best example of this. He was THE anal director and everything he shoots now is vag-only stuff with himself or Dredd. Brazzers is another good example. A large network with a huge catalogue. But nowadays, every scene is the same. Comedy vag only porn. Some goes for Elegant Angel..without the comedy factor. Directors and studios are no longer willing, or able, to pay the extra dollar anymore. Perhaps porn needs a different sales model in order to generate more money and thus become more versatile again.
Pitbull67
Senior Member

6725 Posts
12/15
Posted - Jun 23 2019 : 3:28AM
^^ I'm not really sure why I'm on here defending LP when it's far from my own favourite site. However......your characterisation of the site in terms of the types and sizes of models and the types of fans is absolute tosh. At the same time lower down the thread you extol the virtues of Trueanal (exactly the same guy in every scene doing pretty much exactly the same moves from the same angles) and Tushy (overrun with exactly the same sort of models that you criticise LP for using). Personally, I'm not a fan of the scenes with the ultra skinny girls on LP (the Emily Pink scenes being an example) but each to their own. The blunt truth is that in terms of numbers, there are more scenes in total on LP per month featuring good looking 'curvy' girls than on Trueanal and Tushy added together. (Just in case you're wondering.....I subscribe to Trueanal, Tushy and LP and enjoy bits of the content of all three). As for the LP forum......I've never even been on it and I really can't understand, given the views you express on here, what on earth you're doing on there!

Edited by - Pitbull67 on 6/23/2019 3:29:03 AM

Pitbull67
Senior Member

6725 Posts
12/15
Posted - Jun 23 2019 : 3:35AM
^^ I'm not sure I agree with you. What you say about JJ and Brazzers is probably true but what we've seen increasingly in recent years is that the anal content is more concentrated on 'niche' sites like Tushy, Trueanal, Evil Angel and LP. To get the variety you need to switch between sites rather than just follow one.
Draxxx
Senior Member

3831 Posts
2/07
Posted - Jun 23 2019 : 11:16AM
I still stand behind what I said. Except for the "softer" "vanilla" scenes that don't have extreme sex or anal, the vast majority of LP's output is very, very repetitious. There are a the few one on one scenes, and a few with watersports or fisting but from what I see most of the gangbang scenes are virtually the same. There are quite a few girls who have done numerous scenes and many of those scenes are identical. Yeah, there might be scenes with 2 or 3 girls but overall I don't see how anyone can make much of an argument that LP offers plenty of variety. I don't even think that's a bad thing per se. They clearly have an audience and have been successful. The main point I was trying to make is that LP's audience is willing to put up with this because they deliver content they may not be able to get elsewhere. It's not something I would want to watch on a regular basis but I'm not their target audience and I'm not wanting them to change to suit what I would want to see. They have a business model and found a niche that works for them and as long as it works they should keep doing it. Same as JULES JORDAN, EVIL ANGEL, ELEGANT ANGEL, BLACKED or whoever. I may not understand why some people like it but that's the nature of people. To each their own.
Pitbull67
Senior Member

6725 Posts
12/15
Posted - Jun 23 2019 : 12:38PM
[mod edit: comment removed. See the ADT forum etiquette - "Adult DVD Talk is a Friendly Community. Treat fellow posters as neighbors. Please be respectful of each other and each other's threads. If what someone has posted angers you, wait until you calm down before you respond or simply don't respond."]


Edited by - killbillvol69 on 6/23/2019 6:41:57 PM

DAPipicide
Member

277 Posts
9/17
Posted - Jun 23 2019 : 7:16PM
I wouldn't get too excited by Lanksy's work because the stuff he feeds his girls to say in their scenes ruins them. All spontaneity and feeling is gone nowadays.

Earlier Tushy scenes were much, much better IMO. (The late Nicole Clitman with Xander was incredible!)


That being said the same holds true for LP as well with Monika Wild being the last performer I can think of to be TRULY into her scenes.

Same scenes, same sets, same colors, same positions and usually the same girls as of late.

I miss girls like Julie Skyhigh, Sofi Goldfinger and Arwen.

EasyRider
Member

Brianna Love, comeback to pron please.. :(
238 Posts
1/09
Posted - Jun 24 2019 : 7:52AM
The site looks like Down..

https://www.legalporno.com

_: Easyrider :_

pat362
Senior Member

10083 Posts
3/10
Posted - Jun 24 2019 : 8:41AM
^Not so much down as under maintenance. Maybe they are trying to upgrade the site and that can't be done if people are using it.
 
PornFan24x7
Senior Member

Porn addict who loves DP, Double Anal, Triple Anal & Gangbang scenes!
5911 Posts
9/13
Posted - Jun 24 2019 : 12:46PM
^ Since they're still down, I doubt it's just regular maintenance....

My twitter: @PornFan24x7

PIERRE WOODMAN
Senior Member

The Atrax
1489 Posts
8/15
Posted - Jun 24 2019 : 2:05PM
Looks like there is no anymore Legal Porno but they will become Legal Video ...

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sidxxx
Deactivated User

372 Posts
9/17
Posted - Jun 24 2019 : 2:08PM
Pierre do you know if some problems for legalporno now?
GatosNunez
Member

408 Posts
3/12
Posted - Jun 24 2019 : 3:59PM
sure looks like something major is going on there, although LP CZ is still twittering
PornFan24x7
Senior Member

Porn addict who loves DP, Double Anal, Triple Anal & Gangbang scenes!
5911 Posts
9/13
Posted - Jun 24 2019 : 4:49PM
[Tweet is no longer available]

My twitter: @PornFan24x7

pat362
Senior Member

10083 Posts
3/10
Posted - Jun 24 2019 : 4:51PM
I just tried a few things and here are some observations. If you enter legal porno in Google then it will take you to the standard page where it currently says under maintenance but the tab now uses the words legal video and not legal porno. Every link on the maintenance page gives you an error message except for the forum button because that one brings me to HugeDomains.com
GatosNunez
Member

408 Posts
3/12
Posted - Jun 24 2019 : 5:41PM
Yes, all of those observations I can confirm from here
upsux
Deactivated User

919 Posts
10/17
Posted - Jun 24 2019 : 6:22PM
^ Rumor is they tried to jam eight ethernet cables into one output slot.
pat362
Senior Member

10083 Posts
3/10
Posted - Jun 24 2019 : 6:52PM
^Thank You for that.
draghixafan
Senior Member

Less identical crap, more sleaze and bush!
2378 Posts
7/09
Posted - Jun 24 2019 : 7:33PM
 
shark1
Senior Member

1219 Posts
5/04
Posted - Jun 24 2019 : 9:02PM
That's pretty damn funny
RonK All-Star Supporter
Big Double Everything Fan

Poor Turkey running for her life with Christmas Hat
3713 Posts
9/01
Posted - Jun 24 2019 : 9:37PM
Were there limp cables in the OEP (octo ethernet penetration) attempt?
Panoramata
Senior Member

15899 Posts
11/06
Posted - Jun 24 2019 : 9:51PM
Anal-Porn Archivist
Member

Ass-obsessed
274 Posts
2/15
Posted - Jun 25 2019 : 2:43AM
Made my day.
pat362
Senior Member

10083 Posts
3/10
Posted - Jun 25 2019 : 7:57AM
A couple of the main pages are back but the forum and suggest buttons are still down and there is a message that streaming and downloading may be down as well. Of course the last updates are dated June 23.
xenofanez
Member

317 Posts
9/14
Posted - Jun 25 2019 : 10:03AM
I hope they get this fixed soon. I can't access all the scenes I bought...
Panoramata
Senior Member

15899 Posts
11/06
Posted - Jun 25 2019 : 12:02PM
Machiavellic cyberspace

" Early morning on the 24th of June we suffered an attack that caused some damage and a negligible amount of data loss. No data was stolen. We are working on restoring all our services (with increased robustness) as soon as possible. We are sorry for the inconvenience caused. Attacks against us are very common unfortunately and this one was successful for once. "

pat362
Senior Member

10083 Posts
3/10
Posted - Jun 25 2019 : 1:53PM
^The amazing thing about a statement like that is that it answers less questions than it creates them. Here are some examples of questions. Did the attackers steal personal info of members? What kind of security did they have that they were vulnerable to this kind of attack? What kind of improvement will they implement that will now protect them from future attacks? Why didn't they use their social media to advise everyone of what happened?

There is still no tweet discussing the attack. There is still no mention of when they think they can be online again? Are they going to overlook the last two days of issues when they go back online so that members don't lose those two days worth of downloads?

shark1
Senior Member

1219 Posts
5/04
Posted - Jun 25 2019 : 2:53PM
This is why I always download scenes I buy.
GatosNunez
Member

408 Posts
3/12
Posted - Jun 25 2019 : 4:15PM
didn't even help me this time, I bought the Anna de Ville scene 5 minutes after release but then the DL failed and didn't work until an hour later when I had to leave. Coming back 5 hours later, the site was down. Maybe only a coincidence though, I frequently had a problem when trying to download a scene right after it had been published.
 
rearadmiral All-Star Supporter
All-Star Member

6524 Posts
12/11
Posted - Jun 25 2019 : 4:53PM
Jesus, man... That sucks. I always download but it's never occurred to me that a site like LP could fail.
xenofanez
Member

317 Posts
9/14
Posted - Jun 25 2019 : 5:22PM
Me neither... I'm not too worried yet though.
evilpineapples
Member

ONE TWO THREE, KUUUCKMAAAL!
705 Posts
6/13
Posted - Jun 25 2019 : 6:10PM
Any website can fail. If a behemoth like Facebook or Twitter can go down for hours at a time, so can Legalporno. The difference is that Legalporno doesn't have a 24/7 tech support staff ready to fix the problem at a moment's notice.
rearadmiral All-Star Supporter
All-Star Member

6524 Posts
12/11
Posted - Jun 25 2019 : 7:53PM
^ Agreed. I'm not worried.
BobBrent
Deactivated User

401 Posts
5/19
Posted - Jun 26 2019 : 2:41AM
Alexa Flexy has done a scene for Woodman as Alexa Flaxi. If ever a girl chose the wrong name because the positions they try to put her in are unreal.

The site seems back to normal albeit slower at the moment.

Edited by - BobBrent on 6/26/2019 2:43:36 AM

jelakh
Member

140 Posts
10/13
Posted - Jun 26 2019 : 6:15AM
this is one best porn sites i subscribed to , and it is going to be back up again soon.
keep it positive
GatosNunez
Member

408 Posts
3/12
Posted - Jun 26 2019 : 8:00AM
I agree, it will eventually be back up and running and damage will possibly be minimized for active buyers and subscribers.
Let's just say the overall information policy is subject for future improvement.
rearadmiral All-Star Supporter
All-Star Member

6524 Posts
12/11
Posted - Jun 26 2019 : 12:04PM
It looks like a lot of the site is up and running again. The search feature doesn't work yet but I'm sure LP staff have bigger issues than that to deal with for the next while. But at least they seem to have substantially recovered.
Lee Sparky
Member

40 Posts
5/13
Posted - Jun 26 2019 : 12:21PM
Site seems back, but no updates for few days. Hope they release them all together like porn Christmas.
evilpineapples
Member

ONE TWO THREE, KUUUCKMAAAL!
705 Posts
6/13
Posted - Jun 26 2019 : 1:25PM
^ Haha, are you referring to that one day in 2013 when a shitload of scenes (like 40+ scenes) all came out on the same day? That's definitely never happening again...

Edited by - evilpineapples on 6/26/2019 1:25:27 PM

xenofanez
Member

317 Posts
9/14
Posted - Jun 26 2019 : 5:36PM
Maybe not to that extent but I could see them releasing a bunch as an apology, or that would at least be a smart move! For now, I'm just happy that my bought scenes are intact :-)
GatosNunez
Member

408 Posts
3/12
Posted - Jun 27 2019 : 9:03AM
they are up and running again, released a short statement in the forum announcing a number of goodies for the subscribers, as well as some "extra scenes" on top of the regular schedule.
tacticalpiss
Member

276 Posts
2/10
Posted - Jun 28 2019 : 12:45AM
Completely agree with you about Lansky's work. From a cinematography pov his work is great, though this partly down to the fact he uses really expensive gear relative to what most porn is shot with. However, the valley girl intros are really offputting for me. Because of this, I stand by my earlier comment that Mike Adriano is the only American producer consistently putting out great anal scenes

I have to disagree with you over your LP criticism though. The consistency of the scenes ie same colors, positions, etc is what I like about their work. For me, great porn is about finding a formula and then rinse and repeat with different girls. I admit they do reuse the same girls a lot. However, Giorgio at least who is my favorite LP director tends to add a new spin for each scene or at least a new kinky outfit to admire. Outfit fetishism is a big part of LP.

Also, LP has developed their formula by listening to their fans more than any other network I know of. For instance, the fact that the girls now usually have their high heels on throughout the scene has come about from fan request. It helps when you have an active forum to gather feedback from

GatosNunez
Member

408 Posts
3/12
Posted - Jun 28 2019 : 1:05AM
No, what they did learn from the feedback was to mix it up more and also have scenes where the girls lose their outfits completely progressing to the end of the shoot or at least show their feet. So now you have a good chance to find everything from a performer you like and who tends to return more often.
DAPipicide
Member

277 Posts
9/17
Posted - Jun 28 2019 : 6:41AM
^^ I actually don't care that much about the sets, but I do get kind of annoyed with Giorgio shooting the EXACT same scenes in the EXACT same order over and over.

Like I said, I mostly just miss having the girls truly into their scenes.

I can honestly say that there's not been a single girl in the past year who's blown me away on LP (well for Giorgio anyway, I don't even bother with gonzo).

Don't get me wrong, the've got some painfully hot girls but none with any real "personality" (like a Julie Skyhigh for instance)IMO.

And unfortunately girls I used to be really into like Anna De Ville and Francys Belle are well past their Giorgio Grande shelf life for me.

pat362
Senior Member

10083 Posts
3/10
Posted - Jun 28 2019 : 8:15AM
I seriously doubt the camera Lansky uses has anything to do with the way is videos look. It's more of a question of pre-scene prep and post scene editing. I don't have any idea why the intro bother you since most of them are so short that you only need to skip the first 2 minutes of any video and you have probably missed it.
I think they do more than reuse the same performers a lot. I mean they use the same performers so many times that some of them have done more videos for LP than many performers have done in their short career. You can't tell me that anyone is still interested in a Ria Sunn or Timea bella when they respectively have 81 and 95 LP videos with LP.
You may be right but I think it as less to do with what fans say on their forum and what sells better. I also have to point out that the only reason they are able to shoot the kind of porn you like is because the owner makes a shitload of money from his illegal stuff and can afford to pay performers to do those circus acts you love.
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