[Link]
Introducing Natasha Carter| Author | Post |
|---|---|
| Killer John Member i love sucking balls scenes 216 Posts 4/13 |  Posted - Jul 20 2014 : 9:45PMList out sex acts which are illegal in porn? i am not talking about type of porn: gonzo porn,pov etc i am talking about sex act:blowjob,69 etc Edited by - Killer John on Jul 20 2014 [Link] |
| Leyden Senior Member The people have spoken. I'm a nitpicking dick. Woo! 8757 Posts 1/04 | Posted - Jul 20 2014 : 9:56PM [Link] |
| Bob Cobb Deactivated User 220 Posts 6/14 | Posted - Jul 20 2014 : 10:34PM [Link] |
| earthwindfire Deactivated User 257 Posts 10/12 | Posted - Jul 21 2014 : 2:00AM What a silly thread. [Link] |
| Zoiper2009 Deactivated User 575 Posts 3/14 | Posted - Jul 21 2014 : 2:22AM I have absolutely no interest in) is against the law, yet DPs, which could just as easily cause damage to a woman, are not. Makes no sense until one ponders how often law makers probably pass legislation after having a 3, 4, 5, or 6 Martini lunch. [Link] |
| jm6d Member 417 Posts 2/11 | Posted - Jul 21 2014 : 2:28AM We have a legally diverse planet. [Link] |
| Zoiper2009 Deactivated User 575 Posts 3/14 | Posted - Jul 21 2014 : 3:40AM 7 to 10 years ago, because they didn't want to be hauled into court. ( this was in the U.S.) A few minutes ago pulled up a Yahoo Answers where the questioner wrote a couple paragraphs wanting to know why fisting was illegal in American porn. He claimed that a woman producer had stated that she would not dare to include fisting scenes in her flicks due to the legal trouble this could bring. In its answer Yahoo said that state laws vary widely but if an act can be considered "patently offensive to a community's standards" and could result in physical harm, its depiction can be outlawed in some states or even localities. In Oklahoma it's still illegal to sell most hardcore pornography, really anything that shows penile penetration. And although Larry Flynt won most of his legal battles his hardcore stuff still can not be legally purchased in Cincinnati, Ohio. Glad I live in the Akron, Ohio area, where we don't have the uptight laws that Cinci has. [Link] |
| WideAngle Senior Member GAMBO192 1367 Posts 9/11 | Posted - Jul 21 2014 : 4:13AM ~ Juelz shouts out to Gambo ~ Edited by - Gambo192 on 7/21/2014 4:13:58 AM [Link] |
| Mrtreldon Member 7 Posts 12/12 | Posted - Jul 21 2014 : 4:24AM [Link] |
LCF  All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Jul 21 2014 : 4:05PM Edited by - LCF on 7/21/2014 4:09:33 PM [Link] |
| N00dlesDaddy Senior Member Layla...got me on my knees... 1793 Posts 7/13 | Posted - Jul 21 2014 : 4:12PM [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Jul 21 2014 : 4:29PM In a bed they ruin the scene , the girl can't maintain or even attempt a lot of positions can't have stability , may get hurt and dislocate an ankle if she's not very careful [Link] |
| Draxxx Senior Member 3831 Posts 2/07 | Posted - Jul 21 2014 : 9:02PM From what I've heard fisting could get you in trouble.I heard that having a woman restrained or tied up during sex is a no-no. Showing a rape in porn can get you in trouble. No scat. A girl shooting the wrong color liquid from her butt can be trouble. I think all those are only illegal in certain states. Which is why you didn't see them in mainstream porn but they're all over on the net. [Link] |
| Flash Golden Age Classic 11017 Posts 5/01 | Posted - Jul 21 2014 : 9:56PM [Link] |
| Blackie Member 935 Posts 3/14 | Posted - Jul 21 2014 : 10:01PM [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Jul 22 2014 : 2:18AM I suspect he's making a study and porn consumers are his/her sample , this question could be also translated as "what porn consumers would find illegal, what they actually would outlaw? and how fucked up is the view of porn consumers , how sick are they toward obscene and grotesque sex acts? depending on what side he's in and what is the purpose of his/her study. Each of his/her questions could be reformulated into a more logic and less naive one. Note that as would do any true researcher he doesn't intervene in debates he wouldn't lead or turn any of them out of their direction , it would ruin his/her study , I'd been silent about him/her until now because I didn't want to ruin his/her effort , but I still can't see where he is going and why it's taking so long , I mean how many questions does he/her have? As for the very question at hand , "porn" is a too limited definition porn is produced in so many countries with so many different laws and different attitudes toward sex , for example Fisting isn't even see obscene in most of European porn , there are/were lines completely dedicated to it often linked to other behaviours for example there was a French series called Fist-uro and was dedicated to fisting and pissing , other series are devoted to fisting alone (Teach Me Fisting was one) there are stars who only shoot fisting and extreme objects content (Italian Veneisse fo example) or do most of her shooting in fisting productions such as Betty Stille. Others do it in BDSM contests such as German Master Costello who very often performed fisting (the hard way ) , even in America Kink company does some fisting and even enemas in her Everything Butt line Edited by - LCF on 7/22/2014 2:33:52 AM [Link] |
| budtugley Senior Member One man's trash can be the next man's treasure. 1187 Posts 1/04 | Posted - Jul 22 2014 : 2:14PM A little too extreme. [Link] |
| lex von v Senior Member 2511 Posts 12/12 | Posted - Jul 22 2014 : 2:27PM [Link] |
| misspornUSA Senior Member I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13 | Posted - Jul 22 2014 : 3:21PM Edited by - misspornUSA on 7/22/2014 3:21:59 PM [Link] |
| Flash Golden Age Classic 11017 Posts 5/01 | Posted - Jul 22 2014 : 3:41PM [Link] |
| N00dlesDaddy Senior Member Layla...got me on my knees... 1793 Posts 7/13 | Posted - Jul 22 2014 : 3:43PM [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Jul 22 2014 : 4:40PM Cancelled scenes and weeks unemployed including feature dancing , private lap dances and hosting at clubs , who would refund them? But even if they didn't get hurt , they cannot perform properly , they would be unsteady for example in reverse cowgirls unless they perform on their knees but then the high heels would be hidden behind her, there would be no point taking them on [Link] |
| lex von v Senior Member 2511 Posts 12/12 | Posted - Jul 22 2014 : 7:05PM [Link] |
| Flash Golden Age Classic 11017 Posts 5/01 | Posted - Jul 22 2014 : 9:58PM In The United States vs. Extreme Associates one of the charges was for computer files that were made available through their website. In The United States vs. Kilbride one of the charges was for images in e-mails. Neither one required that the community standards of where the servers were located be used. Although Kilbride did allow standards from outside the immediate community. Edited by - flash on 7/22/2014 10:00:18 PM [Link] |
| zambi Senior Member 1451 Posts 3/10 | Posted - Jul 23 2014 : 5:41PM bukkake + gokkun (see prosecution of Jeff Mike) child porn dirty sanchez (assuming it was real) donkey punch fisting (iffy) incest necrophilia rape scat (golden or brown showers, urolagnia, urophagia) scrotal inflation snuff [Link] |
| Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Jul 23 2014 : 5:52PM And snuff (if you actually believe it exists) is illegal because it's murder. So, that's hardly an "illegal sex act." [Link] |
| zambi Senior Member 1451 Posts 3/10 | Posted - Jul 23 2014 : 9:24PM ^ I revised my listing to make this clear ... These have been produced in U.S. but you risk prosecution for obscenity ... bukkake + gokkun (see prosecution of Jeff Mike and Max Hardcore) rough sex, donkey punch (Anabolic pulled their Rough Sex series off market years ago, also see Meat Holes, Max Hardcore, Kink.com(does more tasteful BDSM not blatant abuse like others) fisting (Kink.com still produces scenes like this but based in liberal CA and avoids mail distribution) incest (illegal in some states, most are fake, real ones typical involve two sisters) scat (i.e. golden or brown showers, urolagnia, urophagia) (see Max Hardcore) dirty sanchez (urban legend, if true its lumped under scat) scrotal inflation (could be lumped under extreme BDSM and piercing abuse I guess) The following are obvious crimes in the U.S. and most countries .. bestiality (considered animal abuse in U.S., was legal overseas but I think they are cracking down now) child porn (goto jail and die) rape (goto jail and get raped) necrophilia (criminal desecration) snuff (murder) [Link] |
| budtugley Senior Member One man's trash can be the next man's treasure. 1187 Posts 1/04 | Posted - Jul 24 2014 : 1:36AM The US, ever arrogant and contemptuous of others, pressured the EU to ban performers until ege 18 when parental consent is no longer mandatory. The US succeeded. I'm a big college football fan and one thing that gets many football players in trouble is underage drinking. The federal law is age 18 but Bill Clinton, another arrogant prick, threatened to withhold highway funds to any state which didn't raise their drinking age to 21. Some states had age 19 as legal for beer and wine, 21 for distilled spirits, the idea being age 19 is post high school. A guy could legally drink on any US Military post or base, but as soon as he left federal territory, he/she was now subject to state law and they are age 21. In college, most students turn 21 their junior year so alcohol is easily obtained by having a friend a year or two older who can buy it and furnish it. Almost anywhere on Planet Earth, it's OK to drink at age 18, we do have to consider it's completely illegal in Islamic countries for beleivers. but the rest of the world has sane ethanol laws. 21 is legal drinking age in the US, Indonesia, Oman,Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Tajikistan, and US administered Guam, American Samoa, and some of the Micronesia islands. Thailand is age 20, so is Iceland. What's legal is some places, like wagering in Nevada, or drinking alcohol in most of the rest of the world is a felony in others. drinking age Long ago I knew I wouldn't see intelligence from government, who else subsidizes tobacco farmers at the same time trying to discourage smoking or furnishing condoms to underage students too young to legally copulate. Los Angeles has a legal section(Special Order 40) that that doesn't allow police department officers to inquire about immigration status when it is the law of the land. Only government can ignore other government edicts like immigration ormarijuana laws but intelligence and government get along like Superman and kryptonite, Whatever. Edited by - budtugley on 7/24/2014 1:41:05 AM [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Jul 24 2014 : 2:20AM Then a political party emerged with the official purpose of dropping that age of consent to 13 and give full legal status to bestiality so the topic raised to newspapers and the public opinion for months in the whole Europe , with great scandal , the Hollander themselves were shocked , I have no doubt that this was the actual purpose of such party , in fact this lead to the ban of porn bestiality in Europe and raised the legal age for porn at 18 in Holland too. It wasn't just the US , the public opinion of the whole EU was against it too. Edited by - LCF on 7/24/2014 2:22:58 AM [Link] |
| Jacco All-Star Member "liable to deprave and corrupt" 2673 Posts 5/04 | Posted - Jul 24 2014 : 5:05AM First, porn with 16 and 17 year olds was not illegal in most of the EU untill the late 90-ies and even early 2000's. The main legal problem with producing it before then was that a 16 or 17 year old could not legally sign a contract (a model release is a contract) and very few parents where willing to sign for it. The infamous Traci Lords titles that were banned in the USA were widely available in at least France, the Netherlands and Denmark (those I know for sure as I have seen them in shops myself) till the law changed. Secondly, definitions of porn change over time and keep changing. The famous page 3 girl in England is not considered porn normally, but before the laws changed in 2003 there have been plenty of 16 year old page 3 girls, including famous ones like Samantha Fox and Linsey Dawn McKenzie. Those pictures which were perfectly legal then and in national newspapers are now considerd child porn. In the Netherlands the law regarding pornography was changed in 2002 to raise the minimum age from 16 to 18. This had nothing to do with any specific political party. In 2006 a polital party (the PNVD) was founded with as one of its points making sex between adults and minors over 12 legal. They never got the required signatures to participate in an election and were disbanded in 2010. They had ties with the lobby club for pedophiles Martijn, which was banned in 2014. Neither had anything to do with beastiality or porn. The PNVD was actually for banning all meat eating and against animal cruelty. Porn with animals was banned in the Netherlands in 2010 on the initiative of a member of the Dutch Labour Party. This had nothing to do with the above mentioned party. Jacco [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Jul 24 2014 : 8:15AM It was a magazine that could be found in either countries possibly up until early '80 (not sure) It showed girls from seven to nine YO , in naked and other explicit content (not sure about actual sex I never saw one of those and I was too young to possibly buy one) when some parents filed criminal charges over the owner , apparently he recruited the girls out of schools or playing camps shoot them and let them free , not sure how the trial ended nor if he was paroled or something similar but he ended shot on the street by one of those parents. From then on sex with minor was forbidden for sale in Italy and France even though I don't know all the details. As for Traci Lords , well there were theatres back then , her movies were shown in those , In Italy you need a rating to do so, her movies got the OK . It is an official stamp made by an authority. So it could be a grey zone , such ratings are official must be challenged one by one. I'm not sure anybody filed a claim on her movies so they can be still sold , I remember a Right Wing review called il Borghese the new director Vittorio Feltri (1998) begun to add a gift in their issues it was an erotic movie with Traci Lords ,most if not all the sex was removed it was "erotic" not XXX rated so it could be sold along with the newspapers by regular newspaper sellers , I saw on the cover shown in the reviews that the "visto" was still that of the eighties , it has not been revoked at that time. Nobody complained , yet it was a minor in a sexual related context and was released by a newspaper deemed bigot go figure I assume in France happened something similar . As for bestiality The "manifesto" of that party published in Italy contained references to bestiality , it wasn't the main goal but was one of those things they wanted to "free" , It was a translated version I couldn't verify the actual content I can't speak their language As far as I know the most known producer of young content in Holland the Seventeen series was already using adults only for a while (I discovered Laurie Cameron in there under the name of Tana there were even flicks of Chloe Nicholle) already in early nineties Edit I tried to find pictures of "il Borghese" of that era but couldn't find any , can't say this was unexpected Edited by - LCF on 7/24/2014 9:28:20 AM [Link] |
| Jacco All-Star Member "liable to deprave and corrupt" 2673 Posts 5/04 | Posted - Jul 24 2014 : 5:16PM I don't read enough Italian to understand it all, but here is the relevant Italian law. The "manifesto " you read must be wrong, since when that "party" was active bestiality was still legal in the Netherland, it was only banned after they disbanded. They wanted to make it illegal to kill any animals or eat meat, so they were actually fanatical animal rights activists. In France the Traci Lords movies were sold on DVD till 2003. I know for sure, as I personally destroyed our stock when they became illegal in the Netherlands and we bought them from a French company who made the DVD's. Jacco [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Jul 25 2014 : 7:36AM Well I stand corrected then , however all porn I've ever seen in France was with people of at least 18 years of age or older , with the exception of Traci Lords whose material can still be found in Italy That in Italy is not a law it's a Supreme Court sentence about a man accused to be a paedophile because he had pictures taken on the beach with kids in them those kids weren't his , but the Court sentenced it was not a crime unless the kid are related to something sexual. But there are numerous references to the laws applied , so it is useful but you need to speak the language. I stand corrected about Holland too, although possibly that party may have raised a debate in the Country. Last , my first point about the US having nothing to do with those laws changes in the EU I believe still stands. Edited by - LCF on 7/25/2014 7:39:55 AM [Link] |
| Brummie Senior Member 3389 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Jul 25 2014 : 7:59AM And didn't even know it. [Link] |
| Jacco All-Star Member "liable to deprave and corrupt" 2673 Posts 5/04 | Posted - Jul 25 2014 : 8:01AM The US pressure story comes from the "Optional Protocol to the Convention on the Rights of the Child on the sale of children, child prostitution and child pornography" adopted on 25 May 2000 by the UN, the USA were a big proponent of that. Jacco [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Jul 25 2014 : 9:05AM I suppose no paedophile would like to be listed as a supporter of such party with his name exposed. Well that party and what was related raised a debate in Italy or at least the press put it that way , we changed our laws not long after Not sure we were under the pressure of the USA or not , most likely under the pressure of the new Pope who wanted to show how concerned he was for the well being of kids given the scandal that invested so many priests Edited by - LCF on 7/25/2014 9:06:31 AM [Link] |
| Jacco All-Star Member "liable to deprave and corrupt" 2673 Posts 5/04 | Posted - Jul 25 2014 : 4:57PM Jacco [Link] |
| stinkfist Senior Member Subterfuge...... 7401 Posts 4/07 | Posted - Jul 25 2014 : 6:06PM [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Jul 25 2014 : 6:55PM I remember to go down to get some beer or some wine when it was finished at home, I was probably 12 , I didn't drink it, just bought it and brought home, it was for supper of course. Anyway , I'm not sure about what are our points , I stood corrected , isn't it? [Link] |
| misspornUSA Senior Member I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13 | Posted - Jul 25 2014 : 7:33PM [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Jul 26 2014 : 2:50AM Our law is chaotic to say the least and has been amended a couple times in ways I don't know , I was interested in girls this young so it wasn't an issue , but it's really a mess, looks like our rulers have not a plan but are reacting to pressures , either the public opinion , the Church , other bigot groups. For example there's an age of consent for minors , those above age 13 can have sex but not with a partner over two years older ,the age of consent was 16 but not with partners over 3 years older. Full consent is obviously 18 the reason is that they realize that minors have sex , it would be very awkward to arrest a 15 yo with a GF of 13 for having had sex , also it would have put a weapon in the hands of their parents if those of one of them don't like the other for whatever reason. Even though the age has been raised due to a change of mind in the public opinion (for example among my circle of friends we had such debate about age years before the law was changed, more than once but we weren't alone, the issue was there) provoked by a series of situations made public over the years from the eighties to the nineties, but as said if they begun to arrest or put on the bar all those teenagers who turned eighteen and still had a GF/BF who was younger and still a minor would have created an opposite roar, it's just dumb. In reality this late part of the law is not enforced there are people well over 21 who had or have GF/BF under 18 and even the idea of Berlusconi with 17 YO girls didn't create much of a scandal , in the newspapers maybe and in those who oppose him, but not much in the Country, the judge could easily have avoided troubles by believing he invited such girls to protect them , he had basically no choices , he wasn't backed up by the Country, you can't condemn such a powerful man if the Country is not at your side. [Link] |
| LeyaFalcon Senior Member Something Else 1000 Posts 12/12 | Posted - Jul 28 2014 : 4:06AM [Link] |
| Killer John Member i love sucking balls scenes 216 Posts 4/13 | Posted - Jul 29 2014 : 10:30PM [Link] |
| killbillvol69 All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18635 Posts 4/08 | Posted - Jul 29 2014 : 11:26PM There is no reason they would be illegal. It's just a movie. No one is actually dying. [Link] |
| chopsuey Member 9 Posts 1/11 | Posted - Aug 2 2014 : 6:46PM [Link] |
| zambi Senior Member 1451 Posts 3/10 | Posted - Aug 4 2014 : 11:48AM [Link] |
| Use the code below to link to this topic or a specific post. |
| URL of this thread |
| Link to this post with HTML |
| Link to this post with Forum Code |