Live deflowering on Kink.com. What do you think? http://news.behindkink.com/blog/default/2011/01/07/Nicki-Blue-Loses-Her-Virginity-Live-on-The-Upper-Floor I got a newsletter from Kink.com saying that a girl is going to have a dick in her pussy for the first time on the 15th live after having a cam in there to check the hymen is there. So, what's the opinion on this? It mentions that she's had stuff in her arse before. Personally, I've been wanting to see something like that for a while, but I can see how people would be unhappy with the idea that hymen=virginity.
Doesn't really matter to me one way or another if it's bullshit, but if there's one thing kink.com seems to have going for them, it's integrity. This seems to out of left field for them to make it up for some reason.
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realtip Deactivated User
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Posted - Jan 13 2011 : 1:56AM
Then what would be the point? In the entire history of porn, I doubt that there has ever been anyone who has lost his/her virginity on film. Yet, the idea is interesting, and simulations of deflowering are already popular in European porn, which doesn't seem to be as uptight about exploring such fetishes as American porn. Because I was curious about it, I visited the website. The site says, "Based on the live feedback from fans Nicki's partner will be chosen from three Kink.com legends: Mark Davis, Jack Hammer and James Deen. After which the other two men will join in on the action." Personally, I think it's all just another porn gimmick. But it still sounds like an interesting idea that I'm sure will draw a lot of attention.
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Clams Deactivated User
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Posted - Jan 13 2011 : 8:05AM
Cool. A virgin. Going to have her first sex on the internet with pornodudes. Then get gangbanged. Then a long career as a hooker. Too rad.
Have you not seen Mallory Rae Murphy's thread right here on ADT in the Star Crossed forum? She was a medically certified virgin who lost her virginity to Evan Stone on camera in 2009.
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realtip Deactivated User
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Posted - Jan 13 2011 : 8:19PM
Yes, I read it, and I commented on it there. Suffice it to say that my skepticism is yet unwavered.
Personally, I'd rather see her lose it to Maitresse Madeline. But Kink makes quality movies and care about the models from everything I've read. Now if only they did a scene with a pregnant Madison Young, my fave kinks would be represented.
I find the idea more creepy than anything else. In some ways I actually lost some respect for a company that I thought had integrity and always considered the well being of it's performers as one of the most important things. We know that Nicki is 21yrs old and has already done some anal with toys on kink so at least she has some on screen experience but I don't think that having your first vaginal sex with 3 guys is a very well thougth out plan and Kink should have said no.
I'm glad to hear that I'm not the only one who has issue with this. I wonder if there will be any lasting backlash from this little experiment in porn?
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Posted - Jan 14 2011 : 10:51PM
As we can see, the idea has certainly gained Kink more popularity, which is exactly what it's supposed to do. As I said before, the idea is very interesting. Edited by - realtip on 1/15/2011 12:02:03 AM
feel free to watch Dirty Debutantes 304, the scene with Jordan. I'm as skeptical as the next person but there's no doubt in my mind this scene was a deflowering. Actually I don't the concept that far out in left field..if you are young, 18, on your own in SoCal and desperate for $..anything's possible. The scene in this vein that did raise my eyebrows a bit was in Dirty Debutantes 144, scene with a girl named Asianna. She said she was a virgin(her pussy def looked the part) but had no issue losing her anal virginity on cam while keeping the other side intact...I mean if you are prepared to display yhour anal deflowing on cam for a few thousand guys..who are you saving yourself for exactly?
I don't know. I really don't think porn needs to go there. Don't we have people accusing the industry and it's customers of enough bullshit without deliberately taking someone's virginity in a live porn scene? Five years down the road, she has regrets and starts making posts all over the web about how they took advantage of her naivety and inexperience and it'll be the same old shit it always is when girls have regrets and fingers start pointing. I think it's a bad idea if it's for real and obviously underhanded if it isn't. Edited by - randomprecision on 1/16/2011 5:40:44 AM
Stupid gimmick. I don't really understand why Kink would break from its usual standards for something as cheesy as this. And I send them $45 a month as a subscriber. Also, they fired James Mogul which makes no sense. I'm not 100% with Kink, I think there's a fair amount of nonsense on there ... but when they have a great scene it's seriously killer. And they have the best female talent there is.
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Posted - Jan 16 2011 : 6:48AM
It is very unlikely that a young attractive woman living under those circumstances would have never had sex before, especially one who decides to do porn. The whole idea of a virgin doing porn is as outlandish as someone who has never even been in a schoolyard fight before suddenly deciding to enter a professional wrestling match. This is exactly why it never happens. If there were really a bunch of attractive girls running around who were willing to lose their virginity on camera, then there would be no lack of porn scenes showing it. This would probably replace ATM in popularity.Ask that question to Aurora Jolie. As of her last performance in porn, this girl was still claiming to be a virgin. Whatever gimmick works for you.Porn, and its fans/supporters, need to stop giving a rat's ass about the negative opinions of its detractors. I am tired of hearing people say that porn either can't, or shouldn't, do XYZ simply because people who don't like porn will criticize it. Who the hell cares what they think? As you said, it's "the same old shit it always is." If it's nothing new, then why should anyone care about it? If porn stops exploring new areas out of fear that moralists will find greater cause for attacking it, then porn just might as well give up and stop existing. Most of it is already bland enough as it is. Even though it's all fake, I still think this is a good and interesting idea. By the way, did anyone actually see it?
Yeah. The problem is when these guys pop up, someone has to respond to them so they know they're not going to just say whatever they want unchallenged. I'm getting tired of bickering with them. At the very least, they're usually wrong. Are they really still wrong if they're criticizing the biz for exploiting a virgin? I don't know but I really wouldn't want to try and prove them wrong.Well, I know what you mean but you can see the trouble coming as well as I can. Anything goes seriously wrong with one of these "deflowering" scenes and all hell's gonna break loose and you know it. Especially in this atmosphere we're living in these days.Ever heard "same shit, different day"? Just because it's the same old shit doesn't mean it isn't a threat.I'm all for exploring new areas. Hell, I'm fine with risky areas. But there should also be some kind of risk assessment. Is it really worth it? In this case, I don't think so. It would be interesting for about a week and then it would be old news. Edited by - randomprecision on 1/16/2011 9:37:49 AM
If hell breaks loose, then let it break loose. It's not the worst thing that can happen. It can actually be good for business. I'm sure people who have never even heard of the TheUpperFloor website before have now become interested in it because of this. As for risks, doing porn, period, is a risk. I'm pretty sure when anal, ATM, facials, gangbangs, etc., all started becoming the norm in porn, people said that they were all risks. There are people who say that it's a "risk" to shoot porn without condoms. Despite the outstanding safety record of the industry, there are people who will still find a way to say that anything and everything that porn does is "risky." When has the environment for porn ever been a good one? Edited by - realtip on 1/16/2011 2:03:10 PM
As far as I am concerned just because a woman has her hymen does not make her a virgin. In Nicki's case she was doing anal scenes for Kink several months before her "deflowering" so she was not a virgin. Virgin means never had sex (including oral), not having a hymen. However, I understand that Mark had trouble piercing her hymen because of its thickness so she had probably never done vaginal before (I would imagine the hymen thickens as it ages). Whether it was flexible wasn't announced. I like Peter but think he stretched things a bit far with the "deflowering" and his definition of virgin.
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