I have a leaflet to hand from them, with a telephone order number - might be easier to phone and check. I won't post the phone number here - email me if you want it, Joey.
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| Joey Starr Senior Member  Still wanking after all these years. 8082 Posts 10/00 |  Posted - Apr 3 2003 : 3:28AMIt's an R18 lesbian DVD entitled "Teenage Seduction" apparently also released under the title "Hot Babe Seduction". Lezlovevideo.com in the US carry it, but their shipping costs to the UK are crazy! There must be a way of getting this DVD in the UK or other parts of Europe, but where from? Thanks for your help! [Link] |
| Gabriel Nine Senior Member Firecracker 1273 Posts 8/01 | Posted - Apr 3 2003 : 8:26AM I have a leaflet to hand from them, with a telephone order number - might be easier to phone and check. I won't post the phone number here - email me if you want it, Joey. Edited by - Gabriel Nine on 4/3/2003 8:26:33 AM [Link] |
| Joey Starr Senior Member Still wanking after all these years. 8082 Posts 10/00 | Posted - Apr 3 2003 : 12:11PM Actually I had tried at home already but their shop listing did not show up on my Mac. After reading your post, I retried again on a PC at work and ordered it online. Price is not that bad, I've seen worse and there's free UK shipping.... Will report about Viv Thomas service when I receive the DVD. [Link] |
| Joey Starr Senior Member Still wanking after all these years. 8082 Posts 10/00 | Posted - Apr 9 2003 : 11:36AM A few days later, I got an invoice in the mail, stating that I would get the DVD within 28 days and that "the DVD would be sent from Holland" (this makes sense as I think it's illegal to sell DVDs by mail order within the UK). Will tell you when I get the disc, hopefully soon... Edited by - joey starr on 4/9/2003 11:37:14 AM [Link] |
| Gabriel Nine Senior Member Firecracker 1273 Posts 8/01 | Posted - Apr 9 2003 : 5:37PM It's crazy but true - you can legally send a UK-made R18 disc from outside the UK back into its country of origin, but it's illegal to sell it mail order within this country, even though you can buy it legally, in person, from a licensed sex shop. Does that make any sense? Viv Thomas changed his shipping process a while back, because he obviously wanted to stay on the right side of the law, but of course there are others who ship porn inside the UK, law or no law. [Link] |
| videobliss Member 20 Posts 2/02 | Posted - Apr 11 2003 : 7:31PM [Link] |
| Joey Starr Senior Member Still wanking after all these years. 8082 Posts 10/00 | Posted - Apr 12 2003 : 4:48AM [Link] |
| ziniaraya Member London 194 Posts 4/03 | Posted - Apr 29 2003 : 5:56PM Ziniaraya Edited by - ziniaraya on 4/29/2003 6:04:03 PM [Link] |
| Joey Starr Senior Member Still wanking after all these years. 8082 Posts 10/00 | Posted - May 1 2003 : 3:08AM I hope my order goes OK, just a few days to go before the "28 days" allowed for delivery are over... I visited a few Sex Shops in Soho before ordering and couldn't find any Viv Thomas DVD. Where is this Soho Original Bookshop located exactly? Did they have other Viv Thomas titles? [Link] |
| Joey Starr Senior Member Still wanking after all these years. 8082 Posts 10/00 | Posted - May 1 2003 : 3:12AM Soho Original Bookshop, 124 Middlesex Street, Soho Original Bookshop , 12 Brewer Street, Soho Original Videoshop, 13 Brewer Street, Which one was it? [Link] |
| DeuxChevaux Member London, UK 12 Posts 4/03 | Posted - May 1 2003 : 8:58AM I don't recall the one in the thread, but they had some Sandy & Sammi-Jane titles as well as some of the teen and leg/foot fetish ones. Think they were £20, or less as part of a multibuy deal like the one mentioned above. [Link] |
| ziniaraya Member London 194 Posts 4/03 | Posted - May 1 2003 : 5:38PM Once you get to Brewer Street wander along to the Compton Street end of the road and you can't miss them, with green frontages. The two shops are almost opposite each other. One is right on the corner and smaller and gets very crowded. The best bet for a start is the other one and if you can't find what you want, go to the other. If you have got a definite title in mind you need to be careful because stock on some titles is quite variable from one visit to another. Sadly, Viv Thomas is one that they only stock one or two of the titles for and, even then, for those,availability is abit hit and miss. It is not helped because the cases are thrown on the shelves in no particular order. Even if you have got time to browse you could still miss what your'e looking for, so its always worth checking at the counter before giving up. There are other stores on Brewer Street but Soho Original is generally most keenly priced. I see your other Viv Thomas thread and will post some infor there also. Hope this is useful info. Z. [Link] |
| Joey Starr Senior Member Still wanking after all these years. 8082 Posts 10/00 | Posted - May 6 2003 : 4:05PM Checked them out, they had three VIV THOMAS DVDs in stock but none of interest for me. However they were going to receive a new shipment, I'll call them up later. Very knowledgeable and friendly staff by the way... [Link] |
| Joey Starr Senior Member Still wanking after all these years. 8082 Posts 10/00 | Posted - May 7 2003 : 3:12AM I'm E-mailing their customer service and will tell you how good or bad they are... [Link] |
| Joey Starr Senior Member Still wanking after all these years. 8082 Posts 10/00 | Posted - May 9 2003 : 2:57PM I went to Soho Original Bookshop and bought three Viv Thomas DVDs for £50. They had received a package recently but already sold out of the hotest new releases. I will be back [Link] |
| ziniaraya Member London 194 Posts 4/03 | Posted - May 13 2003 : 9:26AM Z. [Link] |
| Joey Starr Senior Member Still wanking after all these years. 8082 Posts 10/00 | Posted - May 21 2003 : 3:54AM You've got a short description and photos on the lezlovevideo.com website (look under Viv Thomas). Got two other titles and will report when I've seen them. Joey PS : Don't confuse "Young lesbian love" with "Young lesbian lust", another Viv Thomas title on DVD. [Link] |
| Joey Starr Senior Member Still wanking after all these years. 8082 Posts 10/00 | Posted - May 22 2003 : 7:22AM I've E-mailed their customer service recently, no answer so far. Will keep you posted. [Link] |
| Gabriel Nine Senior Member Firecracker 1273 Posts 8/01 | Posted - May 22 2003 : 3:44PM [Link] |
| ziniaraya Member London 194 Posts 4/03 | Posted - May 22 2003 : 6:53PM Z. [Link] |
| Joey Starr Senior Member Still wanking after all these years. 8082 Posts 10/00 | Posted - May 23 2003 : 10:45AM Anyway they say they are sending the DVD again. Joey PS : Thanks to Gabriel for his help, in the end I did not have to call them but I'll keep the phone number handy just in case... [Link] |
| Gabriel Nine Senior Member Firecracker 1273 Posts 8/01 | Posted - May 24 2003 : 6:46AM [Link] |
| Joey Starr Senior Member Still wanking after all these years. 8082 Posts 10/00 | Posted - Jun 21 2003 : 1:14PM As I'm leaving on holiday soon, I asked them for a refund. I received a note this morning stating they had refunded my credit card. Actually looking back the fault was more with the local post office than with them. I just experienced a similar problem ordering a mainstream DVD pack from Play247.com, the nice thing about Play247 is you can track your order on their website so that's what I did. Again the postie allegedly tried to deliver and #1 didn't ring (I was home at delivery time) and #2 did not leave a delivery notice. This is how I lost the Viv Thomas DVD which was sent back to Holland. I'd reorder from Viv Thomas in future if I get the chance, although with a good source in Soho I don't need to, but if I ever move outside London, I'll order from them no problem, their customer service is not perfect but they came through in the end [Link] |
| timotei Member UK 271 Posts 4/02 | Posted - Jun 26 2003 : 5:05PM I would imagine the law on R18s is so-designed to reduce the chances of under-18s buying the discs. Most sex shop staff are quite strict on keeping kids out of the shops, so I guess the government feels its safer to restrict things to "in person" sales. Sell mail order, and you can't really be sure how old the buyer is. [Link] |
| Gabriel Nine Senior Member Firecracker 1273 Posts 8/01 | Posted - Jun 26 2003 : 5:40PM But consider this - the R18 version of certain movies is the same disc sold by EroDVD in Holland. What regulatory powers do UK authorities have over the Dutch vendors? If import of uncertificated foreign porn is accepted, which we're perhaps in some doubt about, it makes little sense to forbid movies which are legal in the UK. My understanding is that the Video Recordings Act makes it an offence to supply R18 videos from anywhere other than a licensed sex shop. But that's in the UK, they have no authority in Europe! You're right about the government's concept, which is also the case in Germany. But let's face it, it's a flawed idea. We all know kids see all kinds of movies meant for adults - the restriction on mail order trade is nonsense and has just made the Sullivan monopoly worse (though credit to them for repeatedly taking the government and councils to court). Edited by - Gabriel Nine on 6/26/2003 5:42:17 PM [Link] |
| timotei Member UK 271 Posts 4/02 | Posted - Jun 26 2003 : 6:08PM Obviously if someone starting up a shop or stall in this country, openly selling US videos for example, then that would be illegal. So it's the selling not the buying. But, as discussed in previous threads, with regards to porn titles then I'm not entirely convinced that it really is OK (in theory or practice) to buy via mail order from abroad. But as you say, if anything acceptable to BBFC guidelines can be imported, then that by definition includes all R18 titles. So the idea of banning UK mail order of R18s is pretty useless, if that really is the case! Not that I'm one to talk about sticking to the law - I import plenty of titles from Lasers Edge and EroDVD [Link] |
| Moondog New Member UK 5 Posts 6/03 | Posted - Jun 28 2003 : 1:03PM On the subject of ordering from Viv Thomas, I ordered a couple of DVD's from them in the beginning of June, and received the invoices shortly afterwards, but 3 weeks later still no films. I emailed their customer services and was told to get in touch with my local post depot, which was a total waste of time, so it looks like I'm £50 down. Checking a few other forums about this sort of thing, I've been told that there is a 90% chance that the films have been stolen by someone in the post service. Since they are just sent out 1st class, not recorded delivery, there is no way of finding out what happened to them. I refuse to believe 2 packages could just disappear in a matter of days! There's something dodgy going on somewhere. I wonder if there is anything on the shipping label that says Viv Thomas, thus marking it out for potential light fingered people to pocket it? [Link] |
| Gabriel Nine Senior Member Firecracker 1273 Posts 8/01 | Posted - Jun 28 2003 : 4:06PM welcome to the forum. Sorry I can't answer your final question, but I am very sorry to hear of your problem. Combined with Joey's problem, this doesn't look too good for Viv Thomas in terms of customer relations. Aren't they prepared to do any more to help? They really should not expect customers to take a loss or to solve the mystery of the missing packages themselves. Don't know what your embarassment threshold is like, but I'd definitely ask the Royal Mail to at least look into what is going on. They may not be able to track an individual package, but they can investigate missing items, and may compensate, though in this case you may not wish to disclose exactly what is missing! Sorry I can't help more, but do let us know how you get on. [Link] |
| Moondog New Member UK 5 Posts 6/03 | Posted - Jun 29 2003 : 3:17AM [Link] |
| Moondog New Member UK 5 Posts 6/03 | Posted - Jun 30 2003 : 3:02PM [Link] |
| Gabriel Nine Senior Member Firecracker 1273 Posts 8/01 | Posted - Jun 30 2003 : 4:18PM Keep us posted! [Link] |
| Moondog New Member UK 5 Posts 6/03 | Posted - Jul 10 2003 : 3:14AM Edited by - Moondog on 7/11/2003 6:53:03 AM [Link] |
| Gabriel Nine Senior Member Firecracker 1273 Posts 8/01 | Posted - Jul 11 2003 : 7:26AM [Link] |
| Moondog New Member UK 5 Posts 6/03 | Posted - Jul 11 2003 : 9:28AM [Link] |
| timotei Member UK 271 Posts 4/02 | Posted - Jul 21 2003 : 6:36PM [Link] |
| timotei Member UK 271 Posts 4/02 | Posted - Jul 24 2003 : 4:15AM Excellent service - I shall be using them yet again in the future! Highly recommended for UK buyers looking for titles not generally kept by the US stores. [Link] |
| Joey Starr Senior Member Still wanking after all these years. 8082 Posts 10/00 | Posted - Jul 25 2003 : 10:58AM They have a pretty good selection of titles, but not the entire range of Viv Thomas DVDs. It's mentioned on their website that they charge about £ 3.40 shipping per order (no matter how many DVDs) for the UK. Also they don't seem to be shipping outside Europe. Edited by - joey starr on 7/25/2003 10:58:54 AM [Link] |
| timotei Member UK 271 Posts 4/02 | Posted - Jul 26 2003 : 6:30AM Real shame XoDVDs don't stock more titles - I'm after Sandy's Holiday Fantasies II - is it even out on DVD yet? Thanks to Joey for the original tip-off on this studio - they are fantastic films!! I got Sex Wives + Videotape (heaven for Mia Stone fans) and Young Lesbian Love (heaven for body-worshippers). Will definitely be buying more. [Link] |
| ziniaraya Member London 194 Posts 4/03 | Posted - Jul 26 2003 : 4:01PM Z. [Link] |
| Joey Starr Senior Member Still wanking after all these years. 8082 Posts 10/00 | Posted - Jul 28 2003 : 4:49AM London E1 (opp. Liverpool St Station) it's got a much better selection and stock for Viv Thomas titles than both Brewer Street stores. [Link] |
| Gabriel Nine Senior Member Firecracker 1273 Posts 8/01 | Posted - Jul 30 2003 : 3:36PM (Different covers?) [Link] |
| Joey Starr Senior Member Still wanking after all these years. 8082 Posts 10/00 | Posted - Jul 31 2003 : 5:03AM Is Jim Slip associated with Viv Thomas? Best of Bubblegum Babes looks interesting, haven't seen it in UK sex shops yet. [Link] |
| ziniaraya Member London 194 Posts 4/03 | Posted - Aug 4 2003 : 3:54PM I've looked twice but I can't find any Viv Thomas DVD's at Erodvd ?! Where are they hidden ? I want to pick up SW&VT. BUBBLEGUM BABES Joey, I got Bubblegum Babes in Town quite a long time since. It is a reasonable buy for £16. It's 4 B/G scenes and one with Nadia on her own. Nadia was in Club a few years ago. Fox, February 1999, has a decent photoshoot from Sylvia's scene although there is a bit of dodgy acting from her in the dvd. Z. Edited to change the DVD summary. Edited by - ziniaraya on 8/4/2003 5:57:00 PM [Link] |
| timotei Member UK 271 Posts 4/02 | Posted - Aug 4 2003 : 4:57PM Also, are you sure you're using a recent link to EroDVD? They updated their site to use SSL but the old link may still work. [Link] |
| timotei Member UK 271 Posts 4/02 | Posted - Aug 4 2003 : 5:01PM I bought my copy from XoDVDs.com which is highly recommended (the store and the title!). [Link] |
| ziniaraya Member London 194 Posts 4/03 | Posted - Aug 4 2003 : 5:42PM Z. [Link] |
| Joey Starr Senior Member Still wanking after all these years. 8082 Posts 10/00 | Posted - Aug 5 2003 : 11:15AM You mean "Best of Bubblegum Babes"? I got "Bubblegum Babes 4" and didn't like it so much... [Link] |
| ziniaraya Member London 194 Posts 4/03 | Posted - Aug 5 2003 : 3:21PM Z. [Link] |
| Joey Starr Senior Member Still wanking after all these years. 8082 Posts 10/00 | Posted - Aug 7 2003 : 10:35AM [Link] |
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