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| Derek117 Senior Member 1605 Posts 1/06 |  Posted - Sep 2 2007 : 9:21PMOn his website today, Luke Ford "reported" that both Racquel Darrian and Dani Woodward have escorted. To my knowledge neither Racquel or Dani are active in the biz--and this is the first time I'd heard Racquel mentioned as an Escort. Because so much of what Luke "reports" turns out to be half truths or non-truths I question his judgement in printing these claims--especially if made by others. Racquel, although long retired, still has a loyal fanbase (including me) and Luke's report seems to indicate that she escorted in the past. I don't believe Dani has worked in front of a camera in about a year, so I also consider her retired. True or not, Luke's site is widely read by industry people and fans, and making this claim about Racquel will sadden at least some of her fans, who will not be happy to hear that at 39 years old she's trading her body for money. In fact, I thought twice before opening this thread, but decided to go ahead once I discovered other porn news/gossip sites were also reporting Luke's claims. Luke may believe that reporting various porn performers have, or are, escorting is another way of letting girls know what the porn star career leads to--and may persuade some girls not to enter the industry. But I question if it's right to reveal private facts about a performer after she retires. In my opinion, when a girl leaves the biz, her personal life is no longer fair game for porn gossip sites. What do you think? [Link] |
| Drop a load Senior Member My leg hurts 1098 Posts 11/05 | Posted - Sep 2 2007 : 9:57PM [Link] |
Hardware  All-Star Member Your other left 14594 Posts 3/02 | Posted - Sep 2 2007 : 10:32PM I'm sure that some women view porn as simply another aspect of the sex trade. If they are happy escorting then I don't see why I should be bothered by that fact. I'm not one who believes that a certain profession guarantees happiness to its practicioners, so it seems illogical to suppose that any other profession would guarantee unhappiness. In sum, you don't know enough to feel good or bad about the reality of either woman's situation. [Link] |
| wheat Senior Member You want a toe? I can get you a toe 1131 Posts 4/06 | Posted - Sep 3 2007 : 5:54AM You're getting paid to have sex with a person you otherwise would not have sex with, it would be weird to accept one and then look down on people who do the other. [Link] |
| juha Senior Member 2752 Posts 3/05 | Posted - Sep 3 2007 : 7:39AM Edited by - hardware on 9/3/2007 2:00:40 PM [Link] |
| juha Senior Member 2752 Posts 3/05 | Posted - Sep 3 2007 : 7:42AM I don't agree. [Link] |
| juha Senior Member 2752 Posts 3/05 | Posted - Sep 3 2007 : 7:59AM To single out Racquel and Dani? Then it belongs in the star crossed. To start a serious discussion about the relationship between porn and escorting? Then you could have posted in the thread I started some days ago. The response wasn't overwhelming. Hence people are more interested in naming porn stars who are escorting than a general discussion. [Link] |
| Le Duc de Blangis Member Ecce Lex 396 Posts 9/06 | Posted - Sep 3 2007 : 8:06AM mod: nested quote removed - see the Forum Etiquette Edited by - hardware on 9/3/2007 2:02:50 PM [Link] |
| Le Duc de Blangis Member Ecce Lex 396 Posts 9/06 | Posted - Sep 3 2007 : 8:12AM too much rumors and a lack of investigation. [Link] |
| FLYGUY Senior Member Good Night and Good Hockey 1355 Posts 7/05 | Posted - Sep 3 2007 : 9:44AM [Link] |
| Ramsey Senior Member Trina Michaels fan 10332 Posts 10/02 | Posted - Sep 3 2007 : 10:02AM [Link] |
| Derek117 Senior Member 1605 Posts 1/06 | Posted - Sep 3 2007 : 12:56PM Over the past several weeks, Luke has been hotlinking to escort agency photos or customer "reviews" much more frequently than in the past. I don't agree with him reporting that anyone is escorting--because it could be a site using a girl's photo to get customers to sign-up, then say that the pornstar is unavailable. Or worst, given the feuds that sometimes exists between girls in the biz, Luke could be fed incorrect info on purpose--to embarass or harm the reputation of a performer. Yet, Luke can make a case that it is okay for him, as a porn journalist, to print anything he wants about "active" porn stars. But, IMO he has a harder time justifying reporting the same info about "retired" girls. That's why I mentioned Racquel as an example. Bottom line: I'm interested in what people think, on the subject of "reporting" that a performer is escorting. I've gotten some comments and will probably get more. They're all good...especially since anyone who's read Luke's page knows that he trolls this site. So, it's also a way of telling Luke what people feel about his "reporting." Get it? [Link] |
| Uncle Fester Deactivated User I rock, therefore I am! 131 Posts 6/07 | Posted - Sep 3 2007 : 1:57PM [Link] |
| alfan Member Lea DeMae!!!! Simply the Best!! 443 Posts 6/06 | Posted - Sep 3 2007 : 4:14PM I have to agree with you, whether you do it in front of the camera or for fee somewhere else. Its all the same. Sorry. Common Sense, here. I think buying a product with sex performers that are paid is the same as buying some where the money is changed. I keep this all in prospective, the things Luke posts are the same "talkY' things as Ok, Us or People. If performers do not want to be reported on or exposed are thought of when they leave the business, don't get into it and the act ashamed of it. I take Tiffany Million on her word and remarks recently that she is not ashamed of her porn past or her present. It was something she did and now does something else. mod: extraneous quote removed Edited by - hardware on 9/3/2007 4:25:48 PM [Link] |
| LubeNLuv Senior Member 1854 Posts 3/06 | Posted - Sep 3 2007 : 5:30PM Now if you want to argue that the girls in question are NOT escorting and he's just making it all up and the websites and interviews where they STATE they are available for-hire are fraudulent, then be my guest. Otherwise, he's just reporting what he's seeing elsewhere. Generally speaking, that's all his blog really is in the first place...a parking lot of stuff that shows up posted elsewhere on the internet. I've yet to see much in the way of original content from him, which is the primary reason I don't check his site often....it's all reruns. Edited by - lubenluv on 9/3/2007 5:32:24 PM [Link] |
| babby Senior Member 1283 Posts 2/04 | Posted - Sep 3 2007 : 6:23PM [Link] |
| Noriinrad Member 185 Posts 3/05 | Posted - Sep 3 2007 : 6:29PM Like the item the other day reporting on Toni James. That was a real cheap shot. And I consider the item on Racquel another cheap shot. This guy has quite a disdain for these women. These "reports" do nothing good. It's gossip, sometimes true and sometimes not true. What needs to happen is the porn stars and others involved in the industry just need to stop answering to his website. They keep it alive by doing so. Would any of us really be worse off if his website dropped out of site. One less gossip monger the better. [Link] |
| juha Senior Member 2752 Posts 3/05 | Posted - Sep 3 2007 : 9:27PM [Link] |
| Tobin Deactivated User 450 Posts 11/07 | Posted - Jan 24 2008 : 6:11PM [Link] |
| backdoorman Senior Member Shake for me girl... I wanna be your backdoorman ! 2776 Posts 10/07 | Posted - Jan 24 2008 : 7:54PM "Censorship is the first step towards dictatorship !" Honest Ed [Link] |
| GeneralMeow Member 35 Posts 1/08 | Posted - Jan 24 2008 : 11:33PM [Link] |
| Ordell Deactivated User 1042 Posts 6/05 | Posted - Jan 25 2008 : 1:24AM [Link] |
| Dean Wormer Senior Member Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son. 1048 Posts 7/04 | Posted - Jan 25 2008 : 2:34AM [Link] |
| TerriRedor Member The Floating World: Porno News and Events 25 Posts 2/03 | Posted - Jan 25 2008 : 2:57AM 1. It gets a rise out of most of you. 2. No one else does. 3. It's easy. People post reviews of these performers all the time and they are easily available. My main concern is that many escort sites list porn stars as available escorts just to grab traffic or attention - they associate non-escorts with their business just to catch eyeballs and perhaps to engage in some kinod of bait-and-switch. And the I'm a little less concerned about false reviews, posted only to smear someone who is actually not escorting. I'm less concerned about that because I've heard that escort boards dump posts and users who regularly post false reports. Terri Redor, TheFloatingWorld.com [Link] |
| elgringoviejo58 Senior Member 1460 Posts 1/07 | Posted - Jan 25 2008 : 6:20AM [Link] |
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| eyeballs a bleeding Deactivated Again 181 Posts 9/07 | Posted - Jan 26 2008 : 3:54PM [Link] |
| BigBoy Senior Member 3359 Posts 1/03 | Posted - Jan 26 2008 : 4:29PM I need to know. [Link] |
| backdoorman Senior Member Shake for me girl... I wanna be your backdoorman ! 2776 Posts 10/07 | Posted - Jan 26 2008 : 9:56PM "Censorship is the first step towards dictatorship !" Honest Ed [Link] |
| barrybrn Senior Member 1568 Posts 9/03 | Posted - Jan 26 2008 : 10:08PM [Link] |
| Johnothan Pedak Senior Member Catastrophe 1594 Posts 6/07 | Posted - Jan 27 2008 : 10:36AM "All other things being equal, the simplest solution is usually stupidity." [Link] |
| LubeNLuv Senior Member 1854 Posts 3/06 | Posted - Jan 27 2008 : 11:36AM Why do porn fans get so worked up over a porn star who escorts on the side? I can acknowledge the "health" concerns within the porn community when they speak out against this. That has at least some logic behind it. But porn stars have sex for money for your pleasure. What's the big deal when they decide to cut out the middleman and keep more of it for themselves with a "private showing?" Sounds like some delusional hypocrisy to me. [Link] |
| Derek117 Senior Member 1605 Posts 1/06 | Posted - Jan 27 2008 : 1:58PM I got the feedback from fans that I was looking for on the issue of "reporting" retired pornstars as escorts. Plus the LukeFordIsBack site has stopped it's almost daily reporting of pornstars escorting--and linking to escort sites that often carry unauthorized photos of pornstars. No longer an issue for me. [Link] |
| Deckard5254 Member 29 Posts 5/07 | Posted - Oct 26 2008 : 11:23PM Personally, I have nothing against girls fucking for $. Big deal. I wonder if these girls can be picky about who's nailing them or do they just screw whoever coughs up the right amount of $? I hate to think of some fat, old troll going ball deep on her, but it probably happens to all those porn hotties at some point. I wonder who fucked her after she got rid of Derrick Lane? Any idea? Man, I'd love to bang her..... [Link] |
| LP Member 7 Posts 12/08 | Posted - Dec 10 2008 : 12:17AM [Link] |
| Porn Scout Deactivated User 3735 Posts 10/02 | Posted - Dec 10 2008 : 2:47AM [Link] |
| Derek117 Senior Member 1605 Posts 1/06 | Posted - Dec 10 2008 : 10:06AM For many, many years (approximately 1970s thru 1990s) pornstars did NOT want to be considered prostitutes. Today's fans, who write on Message Boards, don't seem to see the difference--or care. And most of today's porn performers don't see any difference between being "booked" for a two hour scene in front of a camera for an internet site/gonzo sexvid, or being "booked" to fuck a customer in a hotel room for two hours that is not videoed. But my reason for starting this thread had to do with "privacy"--and the practice by the then-writer of the Luke Ford site of naming performers who were escorting, or prostituting themselves. On top of the privacy issue, was the fact that sometimes Luke was "fed" untrue info about a performer escorting by an enemy of the performer. Thus he was possibly "harming" the image of a performer. As stated above, the Luke Ford site no longer searches the Escort Agency websites for names of performers, or prints it when someone claims a performer is escorting. [Link] |
| backdoorman Senior Member Shake for me girl... I wanna be your backdoorman ! 2776 Posts 10/07 | Posted - Dec 10 2008 : 11:00AM [Link] |
| Stephan Member Mmmm kitty kitty! 46 Posts 3/08 | Posted - Dec 10 2008 : 1:47PM [Link] |
| mindee Member If you don't break the rules, you'll never have any fun! 717 Posts 10/06 | Posted - Dec 10 2008 : 9:59PM [Link] |
| Derek117 Senior Member 1605 Posts 1/06 | Posted - Dec 11 2008 : 1:07AM [Link] |
| killbillvol69 All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18631 Posts 4/08 | Posted - Dec 11 2008 : 1:18AM That's what you need to be asking. Because obviously the people doing this feel that the law is unjust. So you have to ask them whether they find it ok to break an unjust law, as opposed to any old law. Otherwise your question is too broad and of course everyone will say "no", and then you'll feel like you're right and you've proven your point, but actually you didn't prove anything, because the people still feel the law is unjust and still feel that it's ok to break it. Your question must therefore be refined to something similar to the one I typed above, in order to get any useful responses. [Link] |
| Porn Scout Deactivated User 3735 Posts 10/02 | Posted - Dec 11 2008 : 2:22AM [Link] |
| mindee Member If you don't break the rules, you'll never have any fun! 717 Posts 10/06 | Posted - Dec 11 2008 : 5:50AM [Link] |
| ckjordan Member Most Beautiful Porn Star of the 90's 965 Posts 12/05 | Posted - Dec 11 2008 : 8:10AM do a search for your favorites for those who do not believe that most of the pornstars of today escort on the side. [Link] |
| LP Member 7 Posts 12/08 | Posted - Dec 11 2008 : 11:11AM [Link] |
| hollywood woody Senior Member Death is caused by swallowing small amounts of saliva over a long period of time. George Carlin 1567 Posts 2/07 | Posted - Dec 11 2008 : 6:57PM Racquel Darrien, whom I talked to last week, has been in the real estate business for almost 10 years, she is now working in the collection business. She does not do any escort work. I would be first in line if she did. But she doesn't. She is busy raising her daughter and out of the business, period. As for Luke Ford, the Enquirer of adult gossip, he is fun to laugh at and even ridicule right to his face, but as a reporter, please. He wouldn't know the truth if it came up and slapped him in the face. Edited by - hollywood woody on 12/11/2008 7:02:51 PM [Link] |
| Derek117 Senior Member 1605 Posts 1/06 | Posted - Dec 12 2008 : 7:00AM Back to the broader subject of escorting. Today's porn performers don't seem to mind escorting. And, by the recent responses on this thread, fans continue to NOT believe it wrong to escort. Even if it's against the law. Interesting. [Link] |
| DarkPlaces Member 477 Posts 3/07 | Posted - Dec 13 2008 : 2:14AM 2) There is a difference between porn and escorting. One is for the purposes of entertainment only. No one participating there for their personal pleasure. It's the difference between Megan Fox and Shia LeBeouf kissing onscreen in Transformers and Shia LeBouf paying Megan Fox to kiss him in his hotel room. 3) Amber Smith, currently on Celebrity Rehab, was an A-list fashion model who even managed to land parts in A-list films, light years away from the level of porn stars and yet she wound up doing escorting, so why is it either a scandal or a shock that someone doing Anal Angels or some goofy shit like that would wind up doing it too? 4) Seriously, who the hell really cares. I'm surprised more porn stars don't advertise it, because I'm sure your average fan would pay more for an hour than any producer ever would. [Link] |
| Savoy All-Star Member Sucker for Sinners 1844 Posts 12/06 | Posted - Dec 13 2008 : 5:43AM I'm guessin it's that whole silly "legality" issue. [Link] |
| Derek117 Senior Member 1605 Posts 1/06 | Posted - Dec 13 2008 : 12:01PM And, I guess, it's okay for porn to be known as an industry of "law breakers" or criminals? Where is that "line" in the sand where we can break the law and it is okay. Versus, where if we break the law, it's not okay? Just wondering. [Link] |
| DarkPlaces Member 477 Posts 3/07 | Posted - Dec 13 2008 : 1:07PM 1) "Escorting" and "sex for money" are not mutually exclusive, which is why you can legally advertise as an "escort." 2) It also only matters if you believe prostitution should be illegal in the first place and chances are if you're as free thinking to like porn and discuss it openly here, you don't. Apparently you don't know where you're posting to think anyone here is going to have an issue over someone having sex for money. Try sexuallyrepressedhypocrites.com. And finally to your initial question, yes, if you're out of the business you should be left the hell alone. But to be an escort is to still be a sex worker, so there is a valid connection, especially if being in porn facilitated the move or vice versa. [Link] |
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