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angelus
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39 Posts
8/05
Posted - Jun 8 2006 : 6:04PM
Recently I read at another forum a post where someone wrote that all a scene needs is a beautiful girl and you should care less about the guy in the scene. To me I am the opposite, if Irons, Everhard, Strong, Pete, Steffano, Holmes, and a few others arent in the vid I usually want even watch the movie. I dont have a gay bone in my body, but it seems to me if you want a solid vid than you need some top notch male performers. Recently got some movies from Sineplex because they have some real good anal vids. The vids are good, but they could have been a lot better if they had better male performers. Just my opinion, and no I am not gay :)
cal444
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927 Posts
10/01
Posted - Jun 8 2006 : 6:47PM
I recently posted that males are headless thrusting thorsos, meat puppets and pork venders. This is true but let me add that rarely
is the girl driving the scene the venders are all important when it comes to setting ther pace and texture of the action. It doesn't
matter what girl you throw between Everhard and Tony T because she's going to be consistantly throttled by the upper crust of male performers. The only time the males come into play is if they're weak. It's a given the guys kick ass.


Cal444
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Edited by - cal444 on 6/8/2006 7:03:35 PM

piercedpixie1
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uk
194 Posts
11/05
Posted - Jun 8 2006 : 6:48PM
its prob coz the girls perform better when they have a sexy man!it makes it hotter...usually, i care about the bloke because i am a lady...but sometimes the guy doesn'y matter, so long as the girl in the movie finds him hot...because then you get chemistry...and not the kind you did at school...beautiful!
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rc7394
Senior Member

1109 Posts
8/04
Posted - Jun 8 2006 : 7:11PM
Not much unless you're hung like Julian. I read an interview with a porn actress at Rog Pipe I think that said that most of those guys are like life-support systems for their penises.
Pagoda
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1747 Posts
10/05
Posted - Jun 8 2006 : 7:14PM
The man is key for 99% of the female performers out there. For the 1% of girls that are inately sexy and possess true charisma, the guy doesn't matter at all. In fact, an exceptional female performer can bring out the passionate side of some of these jaded been-there-done-that-a-million-times studs. This is from a female viewer's perspective. Female talent might feel differently.
 
dougieave
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40 Posts
9/05
Posted - Jun 8 2006 : 7:36PM
I to feel that male talent matters in making hot scenes. Take for example Angel Dark, beautiful girl and probably could get me blazing by just standing there but you put her with a passionate male talent like Justin Slayer in Just Fuckin' #1 and you get arguably one of the best scenes of that year. Katsumi, one of my favorite performers, is automatically hot no matter who she's with, but her scenes with Manuel over the years brings the passion to a boil and you just feel it from the performers.
AztecGold11
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514 Posts
8/05
Posted - Jun 8 2006 : 7:49PM
A good male performer, one who is very experienced, is like a team-leader.
The director does not have to spoon feed him, he KNOWS what the director wants.
The professional male knows how to get the best from the girl they are working with, many of whom are brand new to porn.
He knows the correct angles that the cameraman needs to capture the hottest sex.
Without an A-List male, you have nothing worth capturing on film.
(Their fee should be close to what the girl gets paid.)

Would be interested in what the performer/directors who post on ADT feel about this...Iron-Everhard-Ferrara-Holmes-Ribas-Jordan.

BIGmike
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2335 Posts
3/01
Posted - Jun 8 2006 : 8:07PM
Male performer is as key as female performers. I personally despise Wesley Pipes, because he can't shut the fuck up. When I reviewed more, I dreaded watching him in scenes because he was annoying. Not sure if Dave Hardman is still in porn, but the few titles I've seen him in, mostly Gregory Dark's, I just don't like him. Alex Sanders, I for some reason don't like watching, and I've skipped rather good sounding movies that he's starred in. Dudes with crooked dicks, I can't watch either. So knowing male performer was a key for me.

Now for guys I do like, there's a lot of guys whose names I look for when watching porn, if I see a name I know, I know the female in the scene will be hot, because the guy knows something about something.

- -B -I -G -m -i -k -e, here and there, over and out! - -

threesomebody
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2491 Posts
12/04
Posted - Jun 8 2006 : 8:07PM
When asked in an interview what the most most crucial aspect in a film's success is, Director Jake Malone answered: "The guy. The guy is without a doubt the most important person in the scene. If you had a car and you made an analogy, the girl would be the cool interior and the guy would be the motor. Without the motor the car isn't going anywhere."

for reference

Isabel
Isabel Ice

170 Posts
4/06
Posted - Jun 8 2006 : 8:13PM
It's true... for me anyway... I can make the most out of a not so great male, but, I shouldn't have to... the good guys are the ones responsible for opening up so the camera has the best angle to shoot the penitration. A great male is responsible for a scene with no cuts, so the viewers can see what ACTUALY happened that day, rather than what the editor let you see that day. A great male has the ability to connect with the females, and make them perform to their optimum. The 'dick' has to inspire the girl to perform, make her feel good, know what to do next. A great male doesn't feel the need to be the main attraction in the scene... great males know that the main aim is to make the girl look good, great males know that it is important to make it happen, they are desision-makers, leaders...
GOD, I could go on and on, so I'm gonna stop now...
Thank God for Great Men!
Pagoda
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10/05
Posted - Jun 8 2006 : 8:34PM
Isabel, that's what I figured. You put my gut-feeling into words perfectly.
Ryan81
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491 Posts
4/06
Posted - Jun 9 2006 : 3:04AM
Not much, imho. As long as the females know what they are doing :)
Gunzo
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1377 Posts
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Posted - Jun 9 2006 : 4:03AM
I think that for a fluid scene with a minimum of cuts the male performer needs to lead, like when dancing, and it requires the girl to trust him not to drop her on her head. If the girl can't relax I doubt she can enjoy herself.
CG_Gurl80
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Sexy Bitches
486 Posts
1/05
Posted - Jun 9 2006 : 4:09AM
When I was younger I always said the girl was the main concern, the guy wasn't that much of an issue. Some guys looked better than others but I always focused on the girl.

Nowadays, I'm convinced the guy matters a lot more than I previously thought. I can't tell you how many scenes, or entire movies for that matter, have been ruined by lame ass dudes who couldn't properly slam fuck their female cohorts.

Nothing more pathetic in porn than watching a smoking hot chick, with a body built for fucking, get paired up with a guy who can barely fuck her because he can't hang.

Endless Loop
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Posted - Jun 9 2006 : 4:14AM
While some of the views shared by our female members, understandably place more significance on the effects of the male performance, or rather the effects as they relate to his female counterpart, as a male viewer, the only significant point of emphasis, is on how the female's performance, affects her male counterparts, or rather, the effects as they relate to us.

With all due respect to the many dedicated, hard working, and highly talented male performers out there, the easier it is, to displace their presence, to mute their voice, or to blur anything that reminds, or indicates, that the dick being vicariously watched on the screen, could be anything other than the viewer's own, the more professional the performance will be.

Excessive babble? It matters.
Spitting in her face? It matters.
Stuffing half a foot in her mouth? For some, it matters.
Dry pop? It matters.

Imho, the whole objective, is not to matter.



 
CG_Gurl80
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Sexy Bitches
486 Posts
1/05
Posted - Jun 9 2006 : 4:17AM
Damn right it matters. I hate that shit. (Wesley Pipes anyone?)

Endless Loop
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Posted - Jun 9 2006 : 4:36AM
Hi CG_gurl80!
I forgot about the smoking hot chick, with a body built for fucking, getting paired up with a guy who can barely fuck her because he can't hang.

Excellent point. An all to often occurrance, with the likes of Kelly Fucking Wells.

juha
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2752 Posts
3/05
Posted - Jun 9 2006 : 4:36AM
That's a good analogy.

I take a working motor in a car for granted just like the man in the porn vid.
Yes, the male performance is crucial. But it only comes to my mind when I see that the performance is bad.

I don't have favorite male performers.
But some performers who's vids I avoid to buy.

eurotrash
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europe
59 Posts
5/06
Posted - Jun 9 2006 : 10:04AM
if you direct.
Kamp666
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32 Posts
3/06
Posted - Jun 9 2006 : 10:11AM
the guys are just meat puppets, they have to deliver the goods, but the girls are the reason why dvds are sold.
Ramsey
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10/02
Posted - Jun 9 2006 : 10:53AM
For me it's very simple, I don't buy movies if I see names like Everhard, Ferrara, Stefano, Marcus or Davis on the boxcover. That's why I always need the full cast otherwise I won't buy the movie because I hate taking a risk. I think company owners are pretty arrogant if they only list the girls on the boxcover thinking only they matter, I mean for $25 at least we deserve to know what we're buying!

Infidel
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76 Posts
12/05
Posted - Jun 9 2006 : 2:01PM
Of course the male talent matters. It's like that joke i saw on t.v. a stand up comedian said "you only like seeing small flacid penises in porn" "no i like watching big hard throbbing cock" haha. so true. the guys must deliver the goods when it comes to presence, looks, charisma, attitude, perfomance and cumshot. anyone that doesn't agree shouldn't even watch porn.
dex378412
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17 Posts
2/06
Posted - Jun 9 2006 : 3:01PM
The male performer is the key to a good scene! I don't rent or buy a flick unless the meat puppet is black and has sword skills. And he's got to be straight too! How should I enjoy a scene by Rocco or Nacho knowing they do trannys as well?
Last Action Negro
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New Joisey
178 Posts
8/04
Posted - Jun 9 2006 : 3:29PM
Ask a woman what would she rather have sex-wise, a two minute chump with no moves or a guy that can fuck nine ways til Sunday? Skills and a good hard cock will go along way.
CG_Gurl80
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1/05
Posted - Jun 9 2006 : 11:57PM
Hello Endless Loop, good to see you around the forums again! I know we've interacted before, though I can't remember where.

You are preaching to the choir my friend. Kelly is so dynamic and insatiable, it's nearly an impossible task to find a good matchup for her cockwise. She eats cock for breakfast and spits out balls for lunch. What a Fuck'N woman.

 
christianx
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9/04
Posted - Jun 10 2006 : 7:04AM
fuck! i was just trying to keep up! lol
Smotherama
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5/05
Posted - Jun 10 2006 : 10:00PM
Oh they matter my friend. The perfect scene could be ruined by the wrong talent on the men side of the scene. Exibit A. Big Wet Asses 3. Oh what could have been...
PornActorForHire
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6/06
Posted - Jun 10 2006 : 11:25PM
It depends on who's viewing. Plenty of straight/bi women and gay/bi guys watch B/G porn.

myspace.com/pornactorforhire

Edited by - PornActorForHire on 6/11/2006 2:36:57 AM

Bob All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jun 11 2006 : 12:15AM
Ramsey wrote:
Why not, exactly?

And what do you mean by "names like" . . . ?

And which male performers do you want to see and why?

Isabel
Isabel Ice

170 Posts
4/06
Posted - Jun 11 2006 : 1:01AM
you'll have to try harder, Christian... or else! [xx)]- that's you, BTW
christianx
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1883 Posts
9/04
Posted - Jun 11 2006 : 1:17AM
i kind of want to see what the "or else" entails actually
Eric381
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2452 Posts
3/05
Posted - Jun 11 2006 : 1:29AM
And thus why she's known as the "F'n" one...

Pairing with an appetite like a Hillary or Kelly I think is like sending a peewee league football player to defend against a 300# linebacker. Few, if any, have the stamina.

Although I get a kick out a recent Hillary quote when refering to her favorite male performer, "...any guy that can keep his dick hard and his mouth shut". That sums it up enough for me, knowing that I couldn't confidently claim such a description, lol.

"Stuff that mouthpiece full of cock.....and shut me the fuck up!!" - Kelly Wells
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Posted - Jun 11 2006 : 2:34AM
Male are very important in fact they can easyly ruin a scene , and offscene before the shoot it's up to them to help the girl ,to feel comfortable and possibly in the mood for fucking.
No director can do that (though he can also ruin a scene but in another way) it's up to the ones who fuck, to fuck needs a special relation even at work, sex is an intimate act it requires feelings among the performers at least they must trust each other

Edited by - Laurie Cameron Fan on 6/11/2006 2:35:53 AM

Isabel
Isabel Ice

170 Posts
4/06
Posted - Jun 11 2006 : 2:52AM
I bet you do, you dirty so and so.!
HarryWild
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622 Posts
2/05
Posted - Jun 11 2006 : 6:03AM
Rocco Steffedi is the best male star of recent in my opinion for porn. He has the hunger; the intense and desire to bring out the energy in a scene with not one but two or three or even 20 females!

Very few have that today; it just boring to watch most male pornstar because they don't have any of Rocco qualities. Alot cannot even bring it up!

I watch Rocco's DVDs because he has some twisted plot and action that is really quite hot and has some thought in it that amazes the viewer!

 
threesomebody
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Posted - Jun 11 2006 : 7:29AM
So do I, Isabel. [:P)]
eurotrash
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5/06
Posted - Jun 13 2006 : 10:55AM
harry wild is right , rocco is the best. to me the european male performers are the best and they really love women.
BadDoggy
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17 Posts
6/06
Posted - Jun 13 2006 : 2:50PM
They are important. The quality in male performance is one of those things you don't really notice unless it's missing.
Pagoda
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10/05
Posted - Jun 13 2006 : 2:52PM
That's as it should be. What a perfect way to encapsulate the issue.
payday
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damn
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7/05
Posted - Jun 14 2006 : 8:15AM
I notice it right away. Unless the girl is a knockout(Angel Dark, Tiffany Taylor, Sativa Rose) and I can focus all of my energy on her..

But most of the time it fails because the male talent is repulsive or doesn't know how to fuck

steed
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426 Posts
11/05
Posted - Jun 14 2006 : 10:24AM
If I don't think the girl is into a scene or getting off, porn doesn't do much for me. And guys like Manuel, Erik Everhard, Mark Ashley etc. seem to deliver in getting the girl off more than most.

So I think the guys are very important.

Flinty
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uk
164 Posts
5/00
Posted - Jun 14 2006 : 1:07PM
My girfriend wont watch porn that doesnt have Nacho Vidal or Yves Castel in it or isn't directed by John Leslie (who has an eye for male talents and shooting them at their best angle).

Therefore from my point of view they are important!.

Flinty




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