I was just wondering, does Max happen to pay more or does his piss taste better? i was searching on the net for a pornstar i saw in calirfornia cocksucker 20 a long time ago, Allysin Embers, and i saw she did some movies for max hardcore, i end up downloading mostly all trailer from his website and saw some star there. For exemple
Amy Lee (probably the most know pornstar from quebec) Allysin Embers Candy Cotton Sativa Rose Briana Banks Victoria Collins(maybe not really know but very beautifull)
And well some others i can`t remember, but what came to my mind is that Sativa Rose for exemple seem to get the usual max treatment, but in her meathole scene she have probably the softest of all i saw, and in max movie she get the piss but she did not do pissmops. Also in pissmops scene lot of girls seem to have a hard time but in max movie it look like every girl is taking piss easily.
So does max piss really taste better or he just happen to pay a lot more?
Max pays a lot less, from what I've been told. But he often gets girls who have done less than five scenes, so they don't really know any better. He's got a pipeline to the sleaziest agents who take a sick thrill in feeding their young, supple charges into the gaping maw of depravity that is Max.
The trick with Meatholes, though, is girls have to know to ask for more $$$ and not settle for cab fare. But maybe Khan and his crew eat healthier (asparagus, broccoli, garlic) rather than swill beer. The funny thing if you've seen enough of those clips, is that for all the freakouts, half the time the girls (like the Nauticas ...) get treated like Daddy's little princesses. They get what they came for (the Everhard dick and the green paper) and they just have to snicker at an ethnic joke or two and wave to Mom.
I don't think this topic has been talked about nearly enough at ADT.
You know, you may call the man or the agents who supply him "sleazy" but honestly, in a warped sense they're doing their clients a favor: most people consider anything after Max a "step up."
Yeah, how long has it been since a thread like this? Seems likes years, doesn't it?
I guess Max is like basic training ... Enough Xanax and he probably looks like Cary Grant. Honestly, though, if I was an agent and I cared at all about my clients (girls), I woudn't send them to Max or Khan unless they were really geared for that sort of thing. I wouldn't send them to Ed Powers, either. The thing is, there's enough of a supply of girls who are only going to do a few weeks of porn at most who can be thrown to the wolves without a second thought, and I don't support that.
On the other hand, Max gets a lot of repeat customers and he has a reputation for being exactly what he says he is, so anyone who is 18 or older and can sign on the dotted line, I guess -- take the money and see your ass doctor on Monday.
There are plenty of ways to be degraded that don't pay nearly so well per hour. As most of us know from harsh experience.
When I was 18 I must admit that I did enjoy some of Max's work but since then I have grown more and more disenchanted with his work mainly because I see things a bit more clearly now.
I know that there is a large audience of people who get off on this type of product but it simply seems sick to me.
These girls are being thrown to the wolves and for as much as I like to see the "barely legal" girls doing their thing in the industry I would welcome raising the age to 21 if it would help prevent girls being taken advantage of or abused.
Money comes and goes quickly. Video footage of getting pissed on lasts a lifetime.
Just to twist things: Would it be different if the guy doing all this looked like Manuel or Rocco?
Edited by - skronker on 3/2/2006 7:25:15 PM
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Posted - Mar 2 2006 : 9:59PM
Yeah i saw some meatholes scene where it was not much harder than any normal porn scene, 1 spit or two, a little bit of trash talking and it was all. Kinda disapointing when you know these scene to normally be very hard. This is even more disapointing when the girl dosen`t complete the show(pissmops). I mean if she is on for a very rought meathole scene but prefer not to do pissmops, fine, at least there great footage, but when the girl do a very soft scene and don`t do pissmops, then why bring her in anyway...publicity i supose...but well.
Anyway by the way since meatholes/pissmops have close, do you know another website who shot star doing nasty stuff, i mean the average meathole scene and the kind of pissmops. I know there plenty of piss website but i want more of a website who shot the american star , like pissmops they had pornstar of category D, but they had stars too like Gia Paloma, Tiffany Mynx, Cris Taliana etc and so i would like to know if there some website like that. Max like i said i don`t like much the concept of the dressing, look of girl, make her look like a clown at the end of the scene and threat her like a retarded teen. Meathole/pissmops was not about that, it was just rought and nasty sex. And there a difference between some great rought sex(soft slaping, soft hair pulling, pushing deap throath) and completely make the girl puke all over etc, thats too gross for me...
Dude I;m a big fan of Sativa Rose so was curious about this scene and went over to the max site to find this trailer, but couldn't see it. Am I being blind, which site was it on.
Cheers my man
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skronker wroteMost of the girls I've seen in Max movies are regular-working actresses who have done a whole lot more than five scenes, and many of them are repeat performers for his movies, indicating that they must enjoy the treatment.
The Dude wrote
This was brought up on another thread, but many of the actresses who work with Max have complimented him on the taste of his piss (as funny as that sounds). Max himself has even said that he drinks alot of water and nothing else so that his piss doesn't taste too bad to the girls.
Something has to keep them coming back for more, no? Why would someone do a scene, get turned off by it, and come back for like a half dozen other scenes? Especially if the pay is supposedly bad?
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Huh personally i just got to the max website, taking the tour to look for his serie, then just check up the cast of each movie, Sativa is right on the cover and there the euro trailer for this movie. Don`t remember what title it was but well you should not have probleme finding it.
By the way its true Max piss look a lot whit, call me a pervert but i kinda prefer when the piss is a good yellow stream, some of the pissmops scene have very white piss but others have great yellow stream, when i watch a piss scene well it have to be piss not just water...
Here are a couple of other pee sites that you may like:
Peesquad.com (the dozen guys who circle piss do it with such festivity it's almost surreal. the girls don't come across as being degraded, it's like yellow tea to them)
Frenchpee.com (girls from Quebec! some degradation, not much)
Like pwing I had my water play phase but now I'm over it. Actually I don't think I'm really into anything per se. I think I'm only about the girl - and if she's doing water play or smoking fetish or a pepsi commercial then I'm going to watch it, but with another girl...meh. For instance at Frenchpee.com I only got into it for Alison's 2 scenes, I passed over the others because the girls didn't appeal to me.
Yellow Discipline was the only piss site that I thought was really any good. The rest did nothing for me. I am still bummed out that the site disappeared.
As for Max, with all the notoriety he gets, I'm surprised that more of these guys aren't imitating him. I'm really surprised that there aren't more guys in porn using speculums, pissing on girls, etc. Although I like Max's action, he's old and has a little dick, so I could never really get past that. If a younger, more well-endowed guy was doing the same things Max does, I think I could get into watching it more.
Rocco's scenes can be far more insane than either Max or Khan. You should check out the one with Trinity from last year, I think. He beats the living shit out of her, and she begs for more. Really, what wigs people out on these sites is more the psycho/creepo/rape-o factor + deer-in-the-headlights.
I never saw "Rocco Meats Trinity," if that's the one you're referring to. But I did see Trinity in "Cum Oozing Holes #2," and this girl obviously loves rough sex. In that movie, Tony Ribas smacks her around mercilessly, even once causing her to lose her balance. I've also seen her in rough scenes with Manuel as well.
Ryan Knox wrote
Maybe it's just me, but I never saw Khan as being all that extreme, especially with him constantly asking the girl if she's OK every two seconds. Usually, if the girl has a problem with the scene, she will say so on her own. She doesn't need the director constantly talking through the scene and asking her if she likes it. Just ruins the whole scene for me, and it makes it all so obviously fake.
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Posted - Mar 3 2006 : 11:23PM
Well personally i find Khan scene funny, even if its generaly rought sex and all, there some funny moment and when he engage in a piss fight with the girl thats always maked me laught(girl dodging or spiting piss on him) Plus i think Max is too disgusting for me, i mean on the puking, man i saw some things in the trailer...ouch, i can`t jerk off to that, thats not what i like, i like rought sex but not seing the girl puke a big brown or yellow stream on the guy cock...
As for frenchpee, ok thx for the tip, but there no american star there? I would like to see a new webite(since pissmops have close) do stars, the stars that agreed to do it of course...
duh? seeing puke always make me wanted to puke myself...thats just too gross for me.
By the way i checked french pee, there one girl interesting me, her name is Ashley, tought in the samples clips and pictures all i could see was them pissing on her tits. No mouth or face pissing, does its true or it was not just show in the clip?
That particular scene from frenchpee.com contains no mouth irrigation. The pee is jetted only on the boobs. As you prob know, the girl "Ashley" is pornstar "Anna Nova" from Montreal.
Ha -- just kiddin'. I think little accidents that occur spontaneously can be sexy, even that. But as a forced agenda it's just ewwwwwwww. At this rate, it's only a matter of time before they bring Fido in so he can get some. Woof!
Dude u mention max and kuan in the same sentence u better mention the dudes from facial abuse.... I been watching there new stuff latly and it hurts my soul, but yet i still want to see more.. They have 2 fat dudes with little dicks but 2 skinny guys that are hung. But what really sets then apart from the rest is the quality of girls they get. U cant find girls like this anywre else. Bearly 18 look like highschool girls(from science class) very cute innocent looking almost like they got tricked into thinking it was a normal shoot..No piss is involved but they get ruthless on the cutest "first times" u will ever see. Brutal gagging, i mean brutal, spiting, ass licking, slaping, fisting, plunger in ass , on face, i mean ruthless....The camra man needs to take a class or two, but the fat boys add to the degrading factor and they deffenitly get into the relm meatholes and max make u feel when watching..
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facialabuse is vile and chilling, yet I am compelled to look at it and touch myself.
Slaping is so hott. I love it when they slape. Do you think they can slape some gapes?
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Posted - Mar 4 2006 : 6:57PM
I do not know her, even if im from quebec myself i know only a few ones, sweet nicky, tangerine dream, amy lee, shebly bell, i think there the only ones... i have a tendancy to like a lot the american blonde D pornstars the most.
I know there a german pornstar very know with the name Anna Nova, did not know there was one in quebec with that name. Anyway i think its a shame she get piss only on the boobs, i mean peoples actually pay to see these girls get piss on the face and mouth, when you signe with a website like that normally you do there stuff. For exemple i never saw a pissmops scene without some mouth or face pissing, sometimes the girl was very unconfortable and they did only a spray or two but she try it...
Godsondov : I don`t have see much of there stuff, only some clips, thats why i could not say a lot of them, plus this thread is mostly about the piss factor and you say they don`t do this stuff.
The comment about being "compelled to touch oneself" is great. It pretty much says it all, about any kind of porn, don't you all think? I would like to ask anyone if they've seen Pure Max 6, and specifically a slender little pixie in it, calling herself Rebecca Taylor? Does anyone know if she's been in any other Max movies, or, for that matter, those of other directors? She looks a lot like the actress Molina, but I'm not sure if it's the same one. Thanks.
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ah ok anna nikova...did a search, she did some stuff with brunob, but i did not know her before.
I'd definitely agree that in certain ways, Rocco has been harder than both. While "Rocco meets Trinity" surely added a darker chill to the treatment, his standard approach usually cloaks his intentions, with scenes that imply tender romance, and seduction. Shot in storybook settings where Rocco's shown, whisking them around town, decked out in his sundays best, with shoes shined to a fairytale glimmer, its just a facade for the intense, convincingly real pain eventually expressed by his countless conquests.
Max sometimes gets his girls out on the town, and though usually geared to draw other unsuspecting cuties back to his lair, Rocco's been just as insideous with his outdoor romps, but his camera, again twists the scenario with a romantic overtone.
As for Khan, what little I've seen has been confined indoors, with only his humorous slant, jabs of the money spent, and daring taunts, that appear to compel his girls to put up with the perversion.
While Khan's and Max can both dole out the disturbing punishment, I've yet to see the kind of extended, labor-like excruciation that some girls have expressed under Rocco's dry torpedo insertions, and ruthless anal hammerings. They all explore the limits, but IMO Rocco's is the physical.
You don't get the feeling that Rocco hates women. Not at all. I imagine he, too, has gone to some darker places. But I think he likes women.
I don't get the feeling some of the other fellas have the healthiest relationship with women, or really care whether they cause social harm.
Rocco read Sade.
Max and Khan Tusion are sadistic, or at least feel comfortable selling women's pain for what I suspect is more money than we're guessing at.
Cruxificio: I think it's getting talked about alot because it's selling. I've watched it all and I'm not comfortable with the charge it produces. That said, I've paid for it and knew pretty much what I was going to get.
End of the day, I think Rocco's probably a good uncle and I don't envy the Karma of the others under discussion.
Dude if u dont call the most ruthless face fucking porn has ever seen hard.. get your wang checked.....Dont look at a couple trailers on there web site u chep bastard buy a dvd of there stuff....u will see plungers in ass, on face, fisting,spiting, i seen a dude put his foot on the back of a teens head and force anotherdudes cock down her throat....thats to hard for tv..
Though I'm not gonna address the issue of roughness here, it's actually a pretty good site. Let's just say that some of the stuff on there speaks distressingly well to my dark side alot more effectively than Meatholes or the current incarnation of Max. It's all shot professionally & consistently, it has character, & out of ALL the girls on there, I can only identify one (Sonja Redd) as ever having done any other porn. If you're into that rough face-fucking AND you like non-professional girls captured pretty well, I'd actually say it's a good value!
"alt porn is like the Hot Topic of erotica" -- Smut Mutant
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Posted - Mar 9 2006 : 2:45AM
FacialAbuse is OK, but I haven't been a member of that site ever since they removed Yellow Discipline from their network. That was the worse decision they could have made, IMO.
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