I recently heard that Private spent some 1 million dollars on production for the Millionare movies....Private you are off track bigtime !! I have watched practically every porn movie ever made and there is no bigger fan and no one more knowledgeable about porn than myself - I have seen every single private movie there is and therefore my opinion is an educated and yet simplistic one....SPEND THE MONEY ON THE TALENT NOT JUST THE LOCATIONS!!! We have Denis Marti taking over where Woodman left off shooting beautiful girls doing anal and DP's for the first time ( Lucy, Debbie, and Marketa ) great job Dennis !! Than we have the ever failing Private ( I wonder why ) shooting beautiful locations with the same recycled girls from their last ten films.... As much as I love them, get some new girls as I am sick of seeing Maria Bellucia, Maya Gold, Alexa May, Sandy Style and Claudia Ferrari...again their all nice girls and this is not an indictment of them. If Private spent money on newer girls the accomplishments would be incredible...for a million dollars you would think they would shoot first anals and DP's, a private trademark under Woodman, for all the nicest and newest girls available....go raid club sandy and pix and video and spend money on the talent. I know there are some who will defend the girls listed above but remember it's not about them and If you think that porn isn't all about taking beautiful girls never seen before and seeing them in hardcore action than your in denial. The Dog
Relax. Your attitude isn't really conductive to discussion, and you're making a fool of yourself with your claims (practically every porn movie ever made? please.)
If you want to make silly rants towards Private, I suggest you email it to them directly or go rant on usenet.
As much as I like and respect Scipio, I've got to agree with horndogger. And I DID seen near everything ever made :). Is Private still in the biz at all? I think they should hire me and Noproblemo as creative consultants.
Almost every porn movie ever made? Even a few years ago they were producing over 10,000 films per year (I think it's much higher now). Even at that rate, just viewing those from the current year would mean over 27 porn films a day. Don't know how you'd squeeze in any of the classics.
Does that include gay porn, midgets, watersports, transsexuals, and scat too? Seems to me that you can't have all this knowledge without having seen all the sub-genres too. And if you have, you might try finding another hobby...like going outside.
i dunno, i dig Private Video's great production values.
i mean, Exotic Illusions 2 has gorgeous Christal bringing off four guys with her model perfect butt, but the fact that it all takes place in the equally gorgeous Seychelles Islands is a real turn on for me.
what's wrong with beautiful girls doing nasty things in beautiful places?
Only Private movie I saw was Anal Clinic (or something) from early nineties w/Lydia Chanel. Basically it was shot in English so they didn't do any dubbing. I've avoided their stuff because I've read that they dub almost all their movies. A dubbed sex scene? Why dub a sex film?
He must be talking about seeing every Private movie ever made... otherwise he's full of crap.
as for private's dubbing, it's generally crap. It's best if they leave the film in the original language and provide us with subtitles. If you can get past that they have a ton of amazing scenes and gorgeous women.
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I don't know why all these complaints about dubbing and Private movies still continue. Some months ago already, I mentioned that they stopped using this practice and that they started shooting all their new productions with direct sound, with dialogue in English (sometimes barely intelligible, but English nonetheless). They have done so for almost 2 years, I believe. It was the publicly stated reason (in "Hot Video") why they turned down Antonio Adamo after the release of Cleopatra .
Hardware said: "Nobody likes their hardware to start acting up. OK, I will have the occasional beer to be sociable."
I haven't watched a new private release for years, I'm still hung up on Gabriella Bond. I actually enjoyed the films in their original language, hopefully the accents aren't too bad.
no, no, he said practically every porn movie ever made and there is no bigger fan and no one more knowledgeable about porn than myself . That's pretty specifically not just Private he discusses there.
Ladies and Gentlemen, we are in the presence of knowledge without peer.
Sbando, you're entitled to your opinion of course, but when someone comes in with a rant like this, first announcing that they know more than anyone else then finishing with an easily-disagreeable opinion stated as solid fact: I know there are some who will defend the girls listed above but remember it's not about them and If you think that porn isn't all about taking beautiful girls never seen before and seeing them in hardcore action than your in denial. Then let's just say I strongly disagree with both his ego and his final contention.
To me it's not all about an endless stream of first-timers never to be seen again. As mentioned in the other thread with Hardware. I guess that puts me in denial, so maybe I should go watch every porn film ever shot so my opinion counts?
Absolutely, but in this DVD age there should be an option to turn off the subtitles. I got some RLD dvds which the original English sound but with Dutch subtitles that I can't get rid of, it annoys the hell out of me.
Dialogue in broken English between two obvious non-native speakers is useless.
The problem we all have in this day of advanced technology is that it is easy to misunderstand when something is written as opposed to spoken....case in point my comment that I have seen every porn movie made. The truth is that I have seen probably almost every new realese in the past ten years excluding the compilations....I watch 20-30 new titles a week on average - yes I am a porn hound. To the point I was attempting to make and that is that if Private wants to return to past glory they have to bring us new talent as they once did. Private was the gateway for fresh new talent in the past coming out of europe and that formula that worked so well for them has been forgotten. I was trying to send a message to Private that we are all smart consumers and that they can't fool us with big budgets and nice locations while using recylced talent within their movies. This was a comment to Private, not to the many porn hounds on this site. They want to know what's up... I am simply trying to inform them from an educated consumers stand point Take care dudes The Dog
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Posted - Jan 19 2005 : 12:41AM
So if we disagree with you on some point are we a less educated consumer?
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Posted - Jan 19 2005 : 12:50AM
I simply can't win with you guys....once again gentleman, it's not about you = it's about Private Video and the fact that they have posted here before looking for our opinions on their product. Does anyone remember the Avy Scott suggestion to Private North America that started here ? Next thing we know there's Avy in Cadillac Highway. If you choose to disagree go right ahead, let's talk private video if anyone chooses. The Dog
I think Private was a gateway for new talent when Pierre Woodman was with them, and it was because Woodman sought out new talent. Once he left a few years ago, Private stopped offering the newest talent because they were left with directors who did not prioritize new talent. FWIW, I basically lost interest in Private roughly in 2002, because beautiful locations and such don't particularly interest me. I have moved more and more in the direction of focusing solely on the chemistry of the performers, and Private would prefer to tell a story and show off production values. And good for them, I think a large part of the more casual porn audience wants just that, but along the way, Private lost much of the "porn hound" crowd.
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Posted - Jan 19 2005 : 2:20AM
Speelie,
I agree with what you've said and enjoy the reviews that you have posted. I think what is unfortunate is that the women of eastern europe are very beautiful and there is such a range of looks....Anita Blonde to Anita Dark if you will. They are often times natural and silicone free....new euro talent is refreshing and great to watch. At least there have been a few directors that have picked up the slack and pursued the new euro talent for hardcore scenes like Denis Marti. What do you hear, if anything is being said, about a Woodman return to private now that Berth Milton is once again in charge ? Take Care The Dog
For me porn is about seeing beautiful women having sex. Hopefully they are shown in a visually good way - make-up, reasonable surroundings, nice clothing. I don't care about seeing new talent. I mean obviously there needs to be some new blood, but if Angel Dark is in another 100 movies, I'm not going to complain. New talent yes, if they look good and are good performers.
Private seems to be targeting the world market more than the American market. I think they are interested in tweaking their product to be more popular in the US and Europe, but not at the expense of their larger market. Remember, outside the US, Canada, and Europe most places have pretty restrictive laws on what can be shown.
I think Croy's nailed it . Private probably have larger fish to fry than 'porn hound' wieners - I'm thinking cable , satellite , and their hilarious sports drink !
Does anyone know just how much involvement Private actually had in the Pierre Woodman movies that were released under their banner ? Was it a case of Woodman making all the running and then selling the company his finished product , or did he have some specific instructions about the sort of features Private were looking for ? I think I read somewhere that about 60% of the EuroBabeIndex girls were brought into the industry by PW , which would mean that without him Private are pretty much cut off from new girls . Unless someone else decides to try and plow the same furrow he has of course .
In the late eighties, Private was not well known in the US. I imagine (remember that word) that they weren't so well known outside of Europe at that time. So new talent would not be seeking them out. Now that they are well known and with talent agencies in Hungary and the Czech Republic they may not feel the need to turn every stone.
On the original topic, hot babes in beautiful locations never hurt. Silvia Saint looked great on the beach in her early stuff for Private.
A few comments about Private (maybe I should just keep my mouth shut since I am sueing them), but anyways...I produced Cadillac Highway for Private and did pick up the Avy Scott suggestion from this board. Private has changed their direction from what I have been able to ascertain, and is more interested in the broadcast/cable/satellite market. Their move with disbanding their US operation (which cost me a great job) was stated to be to pick up Pure Plays catalog for European broadcast committments they had to keep. Those of you that have been paying attention may have noticed that Private has only released about one new movie a month for the past year. There has been a ton of recycled product though, i.e. classics, best of, etc. They are pegging a lot on their new reality series for broadcast "Private Stars" which was a hit in England. Private is actually a good company but Berth seems to be making decisions that may be good for the company but do little for porn fans.
To see the charts of private, just click : http://aktien.onvista.de/snapshot.html?ID_OSI=91759&PERIOD=6#chart
Pvte is a " shareholder " company, listed in Europe and the US. So they´re not responsible for nothing but their shareholders. Whenever the CEO + the management means, they can make money with ( for example ) BDSM - movies only, they will DO so.
The girls are not more but employee´s like a secretary, and they have to be functionally as a secretary. If not, shares will fall down and that makes the shareholders look strange. I think, there´s a big difference between a company like ( for example ) Jewel´s Platinum - X and Private, cause Private´s listed at stock-market, Platinum is not. So you don´t really know who owns the company .....
As ya may see on the chart-link above, the company had for 2 years a big hole in the pocket, since about 6 weeks they´re climbing a bit again.
Execuse my English, I´m German, but working on it ....smile
06.10.2004 14:30:00 (PR NEWSWIRE) Private Media Group Signs Exclusive Content Distribution Deal for Europe
BARCELONA, Spain, October 6 /PRNewswire/ --
- Title Output on DVD to Increase by 100%
Private Media Group Inc. (Nasdaq: PRVT) a worldwide leader in premium-quality adult entertainment products, services and Internet content, today announced the signature of an exclusive three year Agreement with US-based Pure Play Media, Inc. for content distribution in Europe.
Under the agreement, Private will distribute around ten newly produced movie titles per month in Europe, Private's main market for DVDs. In keeping with Private's record of outstanding product quality, the content controlled by Pure Play Media features top US producers and directors such as Michael Ninn, Seymore Butts, and Cousin Stevie. Private is expecting to start distribution already this year and be in full operation by January 2005.
Through the agreement, the Company is increasing the output of DVDs, via its well-established 32 countrywide European distribution network, from approximately ten titles per month to twenty. The deal is based on a split and does not require any up-front or future investment in content by Private.
Richard Arnold, CEO of Pure Play Media, Inc. said, "We are delighted to be associated through this agreement with an industry leading name in adult entertainment which will take our products to an unrivalled base of European customers through its powerful distribution network".
Berth Milton, President and CEO of Private Media Group, Inc. said, "Thanks to the group-wide review of the Company's operations and the subsequent rationalization of our business, we have freed up additional capacity in the Company and our distribution network. This agreement, with a complementary publisher of US-produced content, is only the first step towards capitalizing on the full potential of our additional capacity and uniquely positioned network.
"Through the cooperation with Pure Play Media, we also expect to get additional content rights for broadcasting activities which will enable us to further expand in this area.
"We expect that working together with Pure Play Media will provide great value to both Private and its shareholders since it clearly demonstrates a classic example of economies of scale by generating additional gross profit, with little impact on selling, general and administrative expenses," Mr. Milton concluded.
ABOUT PURE PLAY MEDIA, THE PRODUCERS AND DIRECTORS
Pure Play Media, Inc. (PPM) is a US company specialized in the marketing, distribution and sales of adult films. PPM enables the creative industry talent to concentrate on their strengths while the Company provides the promotion and support to attain the maximum business success. PPM brings together some of the best and varied talent the adult industry has to offer to deliver a high quality product. PPM works with a broad range of recognized producers, including:
Ninn Worx
Michael Ninn entered onto the adult entertainment scene in 1992 with the release of Black Orchid. Ninn's erotic vision was quickly recognized and created such a stir that he was soon snapped up by VCA Pictures as an exclusive director for six years starting in 1993. During this period Ninn created four of the biggest sellers of all-time. In the first four years of his career Ninn netted over 50 AVN Awards for his artistic approach to sensuality. After splitting from VCA, Ninn worked with Playboy TV and Private for three years, completing further award-winning productions. Since then, Ninn has started Ninn Worx, his own production company, distributed through Pure Play Media.
Seymore Butts Home Movies
Adam Glasser, a.k.a. Seymore Butts, has been making adult films for 12 years, with more than 70 films to his credit. After countless AVN Awards, Seymore Butts is now the star of the Showtime reality series "Family Business," a new show about an average guy trying to make a living in the adult film industry, which boasts a viewership of over two-million across the US, with syndication in Sweden, England and beyond. Seymore has appeared in numerous mainstream media such as Newsweek, Fox News and Maxim.
Cousin Stevie Incorporated
Best known for his participation on Showtime's hit reality TV series Family Business, Cousin Stevie is now producing his own adult series which has won critical acclaim, including a Spotlight Pick from AVN. Stevie's mainstream star has started to rise with interviews in Maxim, Penthouse, and on both Playboy Radio and Sirius Satellite Radio.
ABOUT PRIVATE MEDIA GROUP
With its 40 year track record, Private is a leading global adult entertainment company that distributes its content over a wide range of media platforms, including narrow and broadband Internet, DVD and video, magazines, broadcasting and wireless technologies. It owns the worldwide rights to the largest archive of high quality adult content in the world, which it physically distributes in over 40 countries.
DISCLAIMER
This release contains, in addition to historical information, forward-looking statements within the meaning of Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933, as amended, and Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended, which reflect the Company's current judgments of those issues. However, because those statements are forward-looking and apply to future events, they are subject to such risks and uncertainties, which could lead to results materially different than anticipated by the Company.
FOR FURTHER INFORMATION PLEASE CONTACT
Alejandra Moore Mayorga Tel +34-91-531-23-88 amoore@grupoalbion.net www.private.comPrivate Media Group, Inc
14.10.2004 16:22:00 (PR NEWSWIRE) 'Private Gold' TV Channel Launches on French Cable
BARCELONA, Spain, October 14 /PRNewswire/ --
- Noos, the French Subsidiary of UGC, to Carry Channel as of 18 October 2004
Private Media Group Inc. (Nasdaq: PRVT) a worldwide leader in premium-quality adult entertainment products, services and Internet content, announced today the launch of the Private Gold television channel on Noos, the largest cable television operator in France, following an agreement with Private Blue and Gold Broadcasting BV, a Private Media Group Licensee.
Under the terms of the agreement, the Private Gold channel will be offered to Noos subscribers from 18 October 2004 as part of a premium channel package on a monthly subscription basis. The adult entertainment channel will be broadcast from midnight to 5 am seven days a week.
Private Gold is currently available in more than 40 countries around the world.
Berth Milton, CEO of Private Media Group commented: "We are delighted to see Private Gold available to French cable subscribers in a deal which will significantly strengthen the Private brand in the French market. We believe that Noos, the market leader in French cable, represents the best platform for the widest distribution of this product."
ABOUT PRIVATE MEDIA GROUP
With its 40 year track record, Private is a leading global adult entertainment company that distributes its content over a wide range of media platforms, including narrow and broadband Internet, DVD and video, magazines, broadcasting and wireless technologies. It owns the worldwide rights to the largest archive of high quality adult content in the world, which it physically distributes in over 40 countries.
DISCLAIMER
This release contains, in addition to historical information, forward-looking statements within the meaning of Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933, as amended, and Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended, which reflect the Company's current judgments of those issues. However, because those statements are forward-looking and apply to future events, they are subject to such risks and uncertainties, which could lead to results materially different than anticipated by the Company.
FOR FURTHER INFORMATION PLEASE CONTACT Alejandra Moore Mayorga Tel +34-91-531-23-88 amoore@grupoalbion.net http://www. private. comPrivate Media Group, Inc.
Quelle: PR NEWSWIRE
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horndogger Deactivated User
229 Posts 8/04
Posted - Jan 26 2005 : 1:05PM
Thanks for the info Saschaxx....welcome to the forum. I knew that Private was public company but I didn't really consider the impact that would have on their choice of products. Good points The Dog
Posted - Jan 16 2005 : 1:33AM