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JadaBlaze01
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Posted - Jan 9 2014 : 2:34PM
Hey guys I happened to run across a list of 100 Hottest Black Porn Stars from another Website and in that list I noticed Skin Diamond, Aurora Jolie and Bethany Benz where very high up in that list and all 3 of them Porn Actresses are Mixed Raced, I dont think its right to constantly throw Mixed Raced Porn Stars into the Category of Black/Ebony I think Porn should have a racial classification Category just for Mixed Ethnicity Stars, Mixed People have a different type of Beauty than non Mixed Porn Actresses and it isnt really fair to the Porn Actresses that arent mixed that they have to compete with the Mixed Ethnicity chicks,why does the Industry constantly make Mixed Raced chicks Black by Default when in reality they are Other.
Idlewild66
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Posted - Jan 9 2014 : 2:46PM
If one of your parents is black. You are black. It isn't a porn thing. That is how society deems it also.
I didn't make the rules...
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Posted - Jan 9 2014 : 3:43PM
The other might be white , I do not agree with Jada in that black is a color not a race , blacks are of different races too, for example Tutsi and Hutu , plus Native Australians are clearly black , certainly aren't white nor any else than black.
To me black or white are colours used to describe someone the same way you won't consider blondes or brunettes as races, maybe it's just me, but I really don't get this point.
White too isn't a race , Arabs and Jews are white Latinos are white , technically I'm mixed too being French Italian a mix of at least three white races Gauls, Francs (who were a German race) and Latins (the aboriginal Latins those natives in Latium the region around Rome.
What am I then? I used to think I'm white and European but I'm actually a mix of Germans (through the Francs), Celtic (through the Gauls) and Mediterranean (through the Latins)thus I share two thirds of genetic heritage with the Englishmen (who are partly Celtic and partly Saxons a German group) and (of course) the Frenchmen who are a mix of Celtic and Germans.
One third of me is German and one third is Italian this is just basic, since I can't possibly know all the mixing over the millennia in Europe and all the invasions occurred after the fall of Rome , not to mention all the wars in France.
so what the hell am I.
these differences are pointless , I'm just white end of story
so I call someone black or white only according to the dominant tone of of the skin of someone and I just mean that in a descriptive way not a race.
Skin's dominant tone is dark so she's black to me , the very same way I considered Jennifer Beals as white it didn't even occur to me to think otherwise until someone told me she was "black" , and I answered: are you blind man? Black my ass, she's even paler than me in September, she's white. She demanded to be considered mixed though
Edited by - LCF on 1/9/2014 3:44:59 PM
misspornUSA
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Posted - Jan 9 2014 : 3:58PM
Idlewild66 is right. Identifying wo/men who have one black parent as "black" is a societal issue and not unique to porn. I'm white, yet my daughter is considered "black" because her father, my ex-husband, is black and the result is that her complexion is darker than mine. It's a bit silly, but it's the reality in America.
JadaBlaze01
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Posted - Jan 9 2014 : 6:22PM

If one of your parents is black. You are black. It isn't a porn thing. That is how society deems it also.
I didn't make the rules...
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I am just pointing out how its just plain wrong , cause its only the case when it involves the Black/White race mixture but if a Porn Actress is half Asian/White they are considered Eurasian and not exclusively Asian which exactly how it should be with the Mixed Raced Stars that are mixed with White and Black they should be considered Mullatoe not Black, cause Performers like Skin Diamond,Benthany Benz, and Aurora Jolie should not be lumped together with Stars like Jada Fire,Nyomi Banxx,Misty Stone.
 
rlankford
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Posted - Jan 9 2014 : 6:30PM
President Barack Obama
White Mother
Black Father
Considered by all to be the first African American President.
norrinradd
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Posted - Jan 9 2014 : 6:52PM
Skin Diamond starred in Black Anal Addiction, Black Fuck Faces & Black Diamonds. Other Anal Addiction, Other Diamonds & Other Fuck Faces just doesnt sound right.
scope21
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Posted - Jan 9 2014 : 7:10PM
Forget all this colour shit...I call em ''BEAUTIFUL WOMEN''
JigglyBoobs
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Posted - Jan 9 2014 : 7:27PM
People are far too readily pigeonholed based on racial/ethnic background whether it's in porn or real life.
Fireyfox
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Posted - Jan 9 2014 : 7:51PM
But what do you consider her? Do you just follow 'society' and tell her she's black or tell her she's mixed and as much white as she is black?
misspornUSA
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Posted - Jan 9 2014 : 8:08PM
Could not agree more.
Well, the first time she asked me about the issue I told her a bit about her ethnic history (her dad's and mine), and concluded by basically telling her that she's part African-American and part European-American. Today, if someone asks, she'll answer that she's black, but when filling out forms she's inclined to check the box for Other. As far as I'm concerned she's just my daughter. I honestly never thought of her as "black" or "white."
JadaBlaze01
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Posted - Jan 9 2014 : 8:20PM
Barack Obama is not considered by all to be the First Black President most People around the World and a lot of People in the USA consider him to be the First Mixed President
rlankford
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Posted - Jan 10 2014 : 12:05AM
^ I should have said most all of Americans. Which should answer your original question since you are speaking of the American Porn Industry.
INeedDeepThroat
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Posted - Jan 10 2014 : 12:11AM
this question seems to be more of a topic out of porn, i think its stupid to classify one person as black if they have a non-black parent also but this goes back to the slavery days in america, if there is to be a change on a small scale in porn, it must be done in society first
HeatedSoup
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Posted - Jan 10 2014 : 12:31AM
This gave me a hearty chuckle.
 
JigglyBoobs
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Posted - Jan 10 2014 : 2:56AM
Honestly, that's the most wonderful thing I've read on this forum. Thanks for giving me such a positive start to the day.
scope21
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Posted - Jan 10 2014 : 6:14AM
Yes ''AMEN'' to that
IRLover91
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Posted - Jan 10 2014 : 6:33AM
They identify as black, you can't tell them otherwise.
I don't know why this bothers you, biggest non-issue ever.
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Posted - Jan 10 2014 : 8:03AM
So Obama is not Africa American you mean?
And BTW someone like Ana Foxx can compete with EVERY WOMAN ON EARTH and easily win most of the times
Edited by - LCF on 1/10/2014 8:05:43 AM
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Posted - Jan 10 2014 : 9:36AM
Alzharhok
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Posted - Jan 10 2014 : 10:21AM
^ only in a better world CL, thanks for the pic of Teanna.
PrimeRandall
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Posted - Jan 10 2014 : 11:28AM
Sure, they can identify as either black/white it won't change the fact that they are technically both. But yes, they can identify as one and lots of people do. A lot of thing here are non-issues, but you'll see people bothered by a girl who doesn't do anal, IR, etc.
fanman44
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Posted - Jan 10 2014 : 1:04PM
Raven Bay ismixed but she dodges black men like it's her job. Seems to love Drake from her twitter, so she might be open to doing a scene for a mixed guy?
fanman44
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Posted - Jan 10 2014 : 1:10PM
I do think it is much easier for mixed race pornstars. Carlos Carrera is half black and gets to do scenes with Dodgers. And you'll definitely see Skin Diamond, Jade Aspen, or Teanna Trump getting a lot more work then an Ana Foxxx. The only real dark skinned performer who recieved a ton of work, was the legendary Jada Fire, but she was on another level sexually and intensity wise.
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Posted - Jan 10 2014 : 1:42PM
^
I don't think it's a matter of mixing , Skin is wilder than any of those mentioned, by far and is a GREAT performer overall with a wide range of abilities
 
Idlewild66
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Posted - Jan 10 2014 : 2:38PM
Your joking right? Like it or not, Obama IS consideredthe first black president by MOST PEOPLE.
rlankford
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Posted - Jan 10 2014 : 2:57PM
Tiger Woods
Mother is of Thai, Chinese and Dutch decent
Father is of African American, Chinese, Native American decent
Tiger's ethnicity roughly breaks down as;
25% Chinese
25% Thai
25% African American
12% American Indian
12% Dutch
Americans would overwhelmingly label him as African American
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Posted - Jan 10 2014 : 3:09PM
Since I never bothered to know , now I'm wondering which black performer of those I like/d is mixed , in no particular order:
Heather Hunter
Jeannie Pepper
Mocha
Chocolate
Monique
Midori
Crave
India
Meka Johnson
Melody Nakai
Hypnotiq
Tila Flame
Misty Stone
Leeani Leeanne
Megan Vaughn
Bethany Benz
Bella Moretti
Marie Luv
Jasmine Webb
Nikara
Mahoganey
Nyomi Banxx
Velvet Rose (well I suppose it's mixed)
Plus many others I can't recall right now
I'm not putting Ana Foxx nor Skin Diamond because it's already been said
Edited by - LCF on 1/10/2014 3:16:46 PM
PrimeRandall
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Posted - Jan 10 2014 : 3:20PM
From the ones you mentioned, I'm sure that Melody Nakai is mixed and I believe Leilani Leanne is mixed as well.
I would guess that Nyomi Banxxx and Megan Vaughn are fully black, but I could be wrong.
T0MBOne
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Posted - Jan 10 2014 : 3:30PM

Edited by - T0MBOne on 1/10/2014 4:11:12 PM
Alzharhok
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Posted - Jan 10 2014 : 4:16PM
Honestly don't mind that its all lumped in as "black" in porn. Porn thrives on categories and there are already a million of them, so why make a new one, especially one that a lot of people get confused about like this?
However in real life, yeah, more and more people are identifying as mixed/biracial/whatever other word you wanna use. Its definitely the case in regards to my relatives, and you can just look at the census if you want more objective proof.
Edited by - alzharhok on 1/10/2014 4:16:54 PM
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Posted - Jan 10 2014 : 4:43PM
Do you guys know the origin of the word "nigger" ? I believe you do but let's refresh some memories , it originated from the Latin word "niger" which just meant "BLACK" as a colour.
The river Niger and the nation Nigeria share the origin but in this case with no derogatory meaning just "Land with Black people"
The derogatory use of the word originated in English because the word had no meaning in it.
But in Spanish still the word "negro" of the same origin means black just black as it was in Latin.
Why am I saying this? because after many struggles American blacks arrived through different passages to be called black as colour losing any race reference thus losing any derogatory meaning in the word the exact same way as white , there isn't any "white race" but many races share the same pale complexion.
Now if I'm not taking this wrong the blacks themselves are giving a racial meaning to the word "black" to the point of separating , proper blacks from mixed black and from Asian blacks
so black much like nigger is going back to define a race instead of just a complexion
Thus giving back the opportunity to use it in a derogatory way.
Am I wrong?
Is it possible that being European I am totally blind on the issues at stake?
Indians, Thai, Chinese and Japanese are all Asians with different complexion how the hell would you define an Indian if not black?
I mean if you want to identify a robber how would you describe an Asian Indian to the police?
Edited by - LCF on 1/10/2014 4:47:22 PM
dnice
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Posted - Jan 10 2014 : 5:14PM
as far as the males jake steed mandingo and cj wright they all look mixed i could be wrong
fanman44
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Posted - Jan 10 2014 : 6:04PM
mandingo's definitely not mixed, jake steed definitely mixed, cj wright probably mixed. Most of the popular black males are not mixed. John E Depth, Lex, Richard Mann, Boz, etc
fanman44
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Posted - Jan 10 2014 : 6:04PM
Carlos Carrera is only 50 percent black and his work isnt labeled as interracial. Same with this older guy named Billy Dee who was big in the 80s
 
Fireyfox
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Posted - Jan 10 2014 : 6:22PM
Race seems to be a delicate subject in all walks of life as well as in porn.
There was a chinese student I studied with in the past and he absolutely hated it when someone called him a chinaman even though he was from China. He said to him, a chinaman was a derogatory term used to belittle chinese people back in the 19th century US when they were brought over to work in the mines, railways and laundrettes.
Also some black friends that I know just refuse to be called African-American. They argue that they have never been to Africa, don't speak any african and have no intention of ever going to Africa. They say that if you must label them then simply call them black Americans.
So its seems that you can never please everyone and someone will always be offended no matter what you say.
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Posted - Jan 10 2014 : 7:56PM
Fanman I was watching porn in the 80s and I considered Billy Dee to be Black
dnice
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Posted - Jan 10 2014 : 9:08PM
mandingo looks like he has a little asian in him not white sorry he has like a tyson beck ford kind of look
Idlewild66
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Posted - Jan 10 2014 : 9:32PM
Carlos and Billy Dee aren't label black because of the elephant in the room.....the girls.
I assure in their daily life, both are thought of as being black.
a9nostic
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Posted - Jan 10 2014 : 10:22PM
NO!!! Let's not enjoy her beauty, let's debate what color she is ad infinitum.
JadaBlaze01
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Posted - Jan 10 2014 : 10:26PM
They dont Indentify as Black, Skin Diamond, Aurora Jolie and Benthany Benz say that they are Multiracial or other, if u look at there Profiles on IAFD they put down all the things they are mixed with I think Skin Diamond is mixed with. But the Porn Industry wants to just push them as being Ebony Performers when they are not
JadaBlaze01
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Posted - Jan 10 2014 : 10:31PM

Barack Obama is not considered by all to be the First Black President most People around the World and a lot of People in the USA consider him to be the First Mixed President
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Your joking right? Like it or not, Obama IS considered the first black president by MOST PEOPLE.
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Cause thats the Ignorance of most People here in Amerca
JadaBlaze01
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Posted - Jan 10 2014 : 10:40PM
Jake Steed Yes but C.J and Mandingo are Black, but u know whats funny when Jake Steed was in the Business he was the main Male Performer complaining about Interracial Dodgers thats why he started the whole " Big Black Dicks Little White Chicks" Films , I never understood why Jake Steed Complained about it giving the fact he was mixed looking and was accepted much more like he got scenes with 2 Dodgers Brianna Banks and Christy Canyon both did scenes with Jake.
fanman44
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Posted - Jan 10 2014 : 10:53PM
yeah but most starlets didnt. Dodgers did work with him like they work with Carlo now
Edited by - fanman44 on 1/10/2014 10:55:07 PM
Idlewild66
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Posted - Jan 10 2014 : 10:57PM
Your joking right? Like it or not, Obama IS considered the first black president by MOST PEOPLE.
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Cause thats the Ignorance of most People here in Amerca
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Yep, you are the only smart one among us, *sarcasm*
If you want to have a decent "race debate" we can do it, but leave the insults at the door.
I never said I agree with most people saying Obama is the "the first black", I simply was trying to point out the person I quoted was, that he is wrong - MOST PEOPLE DO consider Obama the first black president. And like I said in my earlier post- mixed racial kids, for the most part are considered black - unless of course, they got more their white parents genes and do not look black - a good example of this is Slash from Guns and Roses - His mom is charcoal black, but his dad is white. He got more of dads genes - I bet it would surprise many people to know that his mom was that dark are that she was black.
Idlewild66
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Posted - Jan 10 2014 : 11:01PM
Your joking right. His job is porn. Meaning all he should have to do is have a hard dick.
For his agent to tell him that certain girls won't work with him because they think he is black or the only reason some girls work with him because is they DON'T think he is black - THAT WOULD PISS ME OFF TO. AND I WOULD COMPLAIN.
Sex performers have pride to.
Edited by - Idlewild66 on 1/10/2014 11:04:19 PM
Idlewild66
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Posted - Jan 10 2014 : 11:02PM
*double post*
Edited by - Idlewild66 on 1/10/2014 11:03:06 PM
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Posted - Jan 10 2014 : 11:42PM
Say what?
Look, race is an illusion to begin with. Believe it or not, white couples have black babies on occasion and black couples have white babies on occasion. Ask a geneticist about it and she'll probably look at you and say, 'What did you expect?' We're all genetic mongrels.
Porn producers are interested in one thing - money. They will stuff a performer into any and every category they can get away with, and to expect them to change is like expecting Sisyphus to get that boulder up the hill.
fanman44
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Posted - Jan 11 2014 : 12:20AM
thats true. There are very few people who are pure racially. Like the white supremacist who found out he was 9 percent black.
Ass Destroyer
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Posted - Jan 11 2014 : 10:25AM
That only really applies to non-Africans, Africans are the original race so they are the only pure race on earth, obviously some African-Americans are mixed but they still look 100% black they also have the most diverse look and largest range of skin tones, Skin Diamond for example is mixed but she looks Ethiopian which essentially means she looks 100% black but because most African Americans are of West African descent she looks different to the average black American so even though she is actually mixed she doesn't look mixed she looks East African, so if there was to be a category made for mixed raced girls based on looks and not DNA this would have to be taken into account.
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Posted - Jan 11 2014 : 11:08AM
^ Or you could say that everyone who is NOT African is mixed race, because we are part Neanderthal. Many Asians and Polynesians also have Denisovan blood.
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Press Release.
Article in <iNature</i
Check out Asia Carrera, who is part Homo sapiens sapiens, part Neanderthal, and part Denisovan.
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(Sorry for the sarcasm. Asia was always one of my favorite Asian girls. I heard an interview where she said that her mixed European/Asian heritage was one of the reasons for her crossover appeal.)
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