Dani, Romi & Keisha. Just not with Charlie Mac or Jovan. I'd even take Prince Grunts-A-Lot over those two. Edited by - iramaj1 on 6/20/2015 10:59:00 PM
Meanwhile elsewhere: Edited by - LCF on 6/21/2015 10:33:29 AM
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Posted - Jun 23 2015 : 11:41AM
Has anyone seen today's update from MOC? Now giving into "princess perri's" crass demands was one thing...BUT TO RE-USE A MIA KHALIFA SCENE FROM JOSHSTONE.COM AND PRETEND THAT SHE'S "BACK" is pretty much FRAUD imo!! (SMH). Do these guys really think the fans are dumb or something? If you've got no MOC scenes in the can then just skip the update for this week...but to present us with a scene that has been out for many months is just SHAMEFUL once again...and i'm really starting to wonder if this site is losing interest in IR now because they've really been taking liberties lately. Are they struggling to find females who do IR now? I'd find that odd considering rival sites in miami like joshstone, teensloveblackcock and industryinvaders aren't struggling in that department. Or maybe their usual male talent wasn't available for shoots? If so why not bring back Kevin Stallion @stallio34504631 who they had under contract but suddenly now they don't even shoot him anymore even though he resides in Florida still? Or if that's not an option why not give a guys like Cash @cashbossxxx from brothalovers or the new cat @Jahanacex a chance? Hell even Jonny love from brothalovers could do well with Moc i think. If that isn't the problem and they are struggling for female talent i'd suggest they start thinking outside the box instead of trying to sell us bogus scenes like the Perri Piper fiasco and now this latest one. Why not start to shoot thicker ladies like Arianny Koda, Marcy Diamond, Vanessa Blake, Lexxi Lockhart, Mazzaratie Monica, Betty Bang etc? All of whom either live in miami or visit Florida regularly for scenes anyway. Just expand the brand and include some BBW's now and then you'll have much more females to work with and won't need to try stunts like this. Using another site's scene is just plain blasphemy imo. Oh..and here is the evidence!!.. Bangbros latest scene and the JoshStone scene from several months back. Both one and the same. Edited by - iwatchusmash on 6/23/2015 1:46:18 PM
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Posted - Jun 23 2015 : 1:28PM
this is ridicolous....seriously
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Posted - Jun 23 2015 : 2:46PM
I saw it today and was disappointed. They have other scenes that they shot for MOC but never been out yet. I'm still waiting for the Prince Yahshua/Summer Brielle scene because they shot it a few month ago.
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Posted - Jun 23 2015 : 3:00PM
It's absolutely scandalous imo and a clear effort to try and pull the wool over the eyes of paying customers.."Mia Khalifa is BACK and ready for black"!!..REALLY? LOL..that's what really made me laugh.. what a joke :D.
Hey, IWatch, just out of curiosity, how would you rank the best IR sites? Who are the top 5? Who is the worst?
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Posted - Jun 24 2015 : 3:40PM
To be honest man i think it's tough for an Ir fan these days where sites are concerned. Sometimes the quality is just plain substandard. But here's my thoughts... Dogfart The one on one scenes they produce on the various sites can be really good and i probably enjoy them the most but then the whole "gang bang".."glory hole" stuff isn't my thing tbh. Monsters of cock Until recently i had no issues with them. They brought out some decent scenes but sometimes i felt they'd often choose the wrong male talent for some scenes but that's just a minor thing in reality. But these latest scenes they've been bringing out have been straight disrespectful imo and i hope they can get their act together. Teensloveblackcock Still fairly new but looks very promising so far. Blacked The worst one going imo. When it first came out it was exciting but apart from a few scenes it generally bores me to death now with the same tedious positions and rehashed story-lines they use over and over again. JoshStone They get some quality females but it bugs the crap out of me how they often waste scenes with that "pov" crap. IndustryInvaders Often shoots talent that are't exactly known in the mainstream and is a decent site imo. Brothalovers Very decent site which is probably joint with dogfart as my favourite right now Don't really know any others...sometimes footfetishdaily produces some decent IR scenes. Same with HardX, Collette and wowgirls but those aren't seen as IR sites. Edited by - iwatchusmash on 6/24/2015 4:22:54 PM
I agree with you on most of those, but I definitely am polar opposite with regards to Blacked v Dogfart. I rank Blacked near the top and DF near the bottom. DF just doesn't even seem like real sex. I mean as I watch it, I know it's happening. I see penetration. But something about their whole vibe is uncomfortable. Blacked my have dull camera work, but it looks like real sex. It's not hard to imagine that is how real couples get down. They seem into it. Though they are subtle, Blacked has a great deal of details. You can tell it's made by someone with vision.
"Looks like real sex"? REALLY? How so when every scene pretty much looks the same with the same story-lines and boring positions they use? To me it's actually anti "real" because everything looks totally scripted..there's not a single scene i've seen from Blacked that actually flows naturally and doesn't have the performers contained to be honest whereas Dogfart allows the performers more freedom. But that's just my opinion.
^ Very different from Dogfart though , plus has some exclusives and it is always interesting to see the owner herself performing in there , i don't know how to consider her , she's not a pro and performs only for her site every now and then
Is there anyway to see results for this? I honestly wanted to vote for every girl except two on that list. Can you just shoot them all for the next 4-5 months? Maybe squeeze two or three in one scene
If BB only shot in Florida then I can understand the whole conflicting schedules issue, but dont they have west coast studios now? If not, they need to get one in Vegas or San Diego ASAP because there are plenty of girls out there to supply them with IR content
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Posted - Jul 4 2015 : 6:41PM
I see this week there wasn't even an MOC scene!!..honestly something is very odd about that site now. It's like they've completely lost the plot over these last few weeks.
Well put!Dark Meat 5, with Nat Turnher...footage of her makeup/hair/chatting for 45 minutes LOL he walks in they meet she geeks herself over how hot he is and yadda yadda...is that what you're talkin bout? I frigging ♥ it! That EXACT scene instantaneously made me Nat Turnher FANATIC (in a non-psycho killer sort of way)...STRAIGHT UP the most gorgeous man I've ever seen, not just porn but worldwide, period. If that only exists by ACCIDENT, well thank god for those.Thanks for asking! I wouldn't impose my bullshit preferences on anyone else. Black is beautiful ♥ ...buuuuttt, Prince IMHO is like waaayy over exposed, seems 50% of all scenes is him. I don't find him attractive (kinna big deal to me), and I've yet to figure out the knee pad thingy he's got goin on??...he's not my fav *sorry*My ONLY criteria: someone LEGIT attracted to black men. I've seen some women who look completely disturbed and it makes me seriously uncomfortable. White women who wouldn't fuxk a black guy if she wasn't being paid (I understand its porn, not the NAACP) is socially irresponsible. The industry, genre, its legit fans, and those of us who I/R in real life look sleazy when that crap is part of who "we" are. AS FOR THE ORIGINAL TOPIC: I'm sorry she conducted herself that way, I'm sure reasoning was legit *hoping*, she will succeed or fail based on how she conducts herself and this wasn't exactly a win in her favor. Understanding things happen, business-side more complicated than point-and-shoot and yadda yadda...the situation, how it was handled and how it was presented, all falls on the studio. They coulda done better, consumers aren't so forgiving, live learn and blahh blahh blahh. We can play coulda-shoulda-woulda all day long but time-travel being what it is *non-existent* this topic is DUUUUUUNNNNN so let's keep it moving. So much porn, so little time!
Is it possible they ran out of scenes for some reason and tried to sell something to cover the hole? Both Piper's and Khalifa's look something meant to be elsewhere you think it's possible?
The site could be getting phased out. More IR scenes have popped up on the other sites like Pawg, Mr Anal & Bangbros Clips. It's still been one IR scene a week but just on different sites.
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Posted - Jul 5 2015 : 12:24PM
The Khalifa one was a blatant fraud because that scene was shot several months earlier by JoshStone for his site. The Rob Piper one was clearly meant to be anoter scene so i agree. I don't mind if they mess up once in a while as they are only human but the f#ck ups are beginning to be a weekly thing now. How can a big site like MOC run out of scenes? Really? If it's finding male talent in Florida that's the problem then why not shoot Kevin Stallion again who has been on their doorstep and was under contract with them before? If it's finding females that's the problem then they need to start thinking outside the box...because no other site in florida is having those problems. I'm just starting to wonder whether the BangBros brand is losing interest in IR!!...because they don't have issues like this when it comes to their other scenes be it Latin or Vanilla.
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Posted - Jul 7 2015 : 11:50AM
Once again no MOC scene today!!....and JordanB is not even trying to explain to the people why MOC is in such dire straits. Of course the Vanilla scenes are all on point on bangbros and they are pumping out the brownbunnies wm/bf scenes weekly now too. But for some reason MOC is awol.
IR probably isn't making them much money anymore. Like sites such as fuck team 5 and others sites that are no longer active and wasn't making them money anymore.Sometimes you gotta cut the budget and maybe IR was the one they are going away with it. I still think you will see IR scenes popping up on MOC and the anal site with maybe an update once or twice a month. But i think it's over for the update a week phase. Not just IR, but bangbros just isn't making the money they once did. At one point they were giving 3/sometimes 4 updates a day. Now a lot of times just 1 scene a day. Nothing strange going on, it's all about the money.
^^ Could be a "collateral damage" of Blacked I mean it is known they mostly hire firsts only, it is also known they sign six months exclusive agreement with the stars , they usually don-t hire those who already worked for others especially Dogfart (only exception appear to be Spieglergirls) as it appear they also pay high rates which is obvious since they pay the exclusivity added to the star's rate. The added effect that nthe IR watchdogs seem to give major credit to the stars who shoot with blacked even though that means to have very few IR scenes from them due to the excusive deal plus the fact they only shoot 6 scenes per month . So every star especially the newer and unknown who happen to appear fairly often on Blacked are there waiting for a call from them and turning down any other offer until blacked calls. Hence the lack of performers available for IR especially the new ones Edited by - LCF on 7/7/2015 5:09:22 PM
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Posted - Jul 8 2015 : 7:59PM
WTF you taking about IR isn't making much money, how come it selling so why you so down? It's just that Bang Bro are shooting IR outside of MOC, sure Blacked.com and Dogfart are the only IR website out there. But MOC haven't been the same since that Piper Perri scene anyway but they do have some few MOC coming up like Alexa Grace with Prince who a few weeks ago posted it on Twitter.
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IWatchUSmash Deactivated User
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Posted - Jul 9 2015 : 3:17PM
Not sure about that six month stuff now because Jade Nile and Cassidy Klein shot their first IR scenes with Blacked and have gone on to do more with other companies pretty much straight away. Also i'd wonder how could Blacked be effecting MOC when teensloveblackcocks, industryinvaders and joshstone, who are all based in florida like Moc, are all doing well? It just doesn't add up and seems like a cop out. ScoreHD have tried to pull the same stunt by reducing IR to one scene every six weeks or so but all it's done is make that site look lame now imo.
^ the six month agreement begins when it's signed not when they release the flick , if they sit on a scene too long it's their fault, Industry Invaders features completely different body types than blacked , Teens Love Black Cock has few firsts also some of those in there already worked with dogfart so blacked won't hire them the others already did plenty IR Josh Stone doesn't this many firsts plus features different women compared tho those "blacked type"
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Posted - Jul 9 2015 : 6:09PM
Do you know when Jade Nile and Cassidy shot their scenes? I very much doubt it was six months ago tbh.
Because all the scenes on the sites you listed are interracial they are sites specifically for that niche, blacked,industry invaders (well most),teensloveblackcocks and joshstone every update for those sites is an interracial scene so maybe people have moved on to said sites and quit waiting for the next MOC update and losing interest in bangbros in general since there are now several sites that cater to that niche only
Glad to see someone else remembers that Dana scene from Dark Meat, when I first watched that I was like WTF? This is really happening for that shoot? I still wanna know who's the girl that backed out though, you dont just skip on Belladonna flicks. As for Prince, I realized the Brothers like to have little signature appearances in their scenes. LT said he would wear under armor shirts because Mr Marcus was already wearing hats in his scenes. Guys like Slayer and John E Depth wear shades/glasses. Almost all of them wore Timbs nonstop and thats probably why Prince went to the kneepads, unless he just has bum knees, lmao. Then there are some other guys who thought it was cool to wear pounds of jewelry while shooting(smh)
"Remember" is an understatement. During 2014 AVNs I wrote an IR-interest "article" noting all the Black Male/Interracial nominations, giving my opinions of those on the list I had seen--DM5 was up for Best Interracial Release (lost to Lex Turns Evil). Ive seen it 20+ times since its release (Im sure this is for Nat Turnher's gorgeous face than for any other reason)... aaaand its GO-TO scene in my spank-bank ... yaaa I'm VERRRRY familiar ;) It would be interesting to know who Dana was sposed to be, for shits-n-giggles. I think no matter who it was, the scene would have been less enjoyable. *IMHO* it/they had an "authentic" quality, sincere "attraction"--possibly caused by the spontaneous nature of the shoot? =-/ .. It works for me, thats all I really care about ;) I figure Prince's knee-pads are more-function-less-style, work "gear". Similar to fucking with shoes on, to gain traction...but I cant entirely see the pads being THAT helpful. I'd be inclined to agree with your suggestion to "knee" issues... for now, it remains another industry "secret" I've yet to figure out =p Justin Slayer *yummeh* and John E Depth... I go stupid duuuumb for Black+Bald+Glasses... But I want to say BOTH are biting SEAN MICHAELS' signature style ;). I could be wrong... No, not ALL of his scenes has him in frames but when I think of him I think of him fucking with shades on ;)
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Posted - Jul 21 2015 : 10:02AM
So once again no MOC scene today!!. And the funny thing is yesterday bangbros posted a scene of Virgo Peridot with JMAC!!..it would be fine if they didn't already have a scene between those today posted on their site a few weeks ago on the same damn set in pretty much the same cloths (SMH). It's like the whole site is falling apart!!. And just to go off on a tangent for a second the same scene mia khalifa shot for JoshStone many months ago which MOC tried to fool people with the other day is now being presented as a "new scene" on teensloveblackcocks HERE aswell!...my lord man do these IR companies really think we're all stupid? The one thing in common is both MOC and TLBC are florida based!!...and it just shows how that region feels about IR right now.
MoC could get more viewers overall if they brought back men of other races to fuck the ladies. MoC wasn't originally a BM only site. In fact, I remember the first scene I saw from them was Ramon, the 2nd from Preston Parker and then another guy who I can't remember. Maybe Anthony Rosano? They need to bring in dudes of other ethnicities to shake things up and also broaden the audience. Seeing that MoC was never intended as a BM only site, there shouldn't be too many hurt feelings. Almost forgot, there isn't one Asian-American MoC to be found? I think that would bring in a lot of new viewers to BangBros too.
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Posted - Aug 4 2015 : 11:57PM
^MOC has been an IR site for at least 7 years.
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Posted - Aug 5 2015 : 12:13AM
Who says that has to change? You can have Asian, Latino or White dudes fucking any particular race. I'm not of that silly belief pushed by folks here and other bitter people that IR is only with Black dudes.
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Posted - Aug 5 2015 : 12:18AM
^It is the industry that pushes that belief, and so when I use the term I am referring to the industry definition.
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Posted - Aug 5 2015 : 12:23AM
It's whiner fans and other crybabies in the industry who sell that b.s. Take a look at Anya Ivy's modeling card or Jezebel Vessir's modeling card. Both of them have IR listed on their profile, yet neither of them have done more than one scene with a BM that I'm aware of. If IR meant "BM only" then something's amiss with their agencies. No, the truth is that the b.s. you are peddling and others have peddled, in order to guilt trip certain performers and fans...is a lie.
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Posted - Aug 5 2015 : 12:31AM
^Fans are part of the industry? For seven years Bangbros has treated MOC as a BM/WF IR website. I am fully aware that "WM"/BF (and WF/BF) is also marketed as IR. Meanwhile, Bangbros does not tag/categorize Hispanics having sex with white women, for example, as IR. That's not my policy, it's the policy of Bangbros and the industry at large. Edited by - misspornUSA on 8/5/2015 12:33:20 AM
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Posted - Aug 5 2015 : 12:38AM
^^Here's a relevant quote from pornstar Olivia Austin. I emphasized part of the quote for your benefit.
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Posted - Aug 5 2015 : 12:51AM
She's repeating that dumb meme that you, other crybabies and a few whining pornstars made up. IR fixated BM hound non-BW about doing IR and use this nonsense as part of their standard line. What's the saying "If you repeat a lie enough times, it becomes the truth in the minds of the public." I also note how you completely sidestepped my comments about Jezebel Vessir and Anya Ivy.
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Posted - Aug 5 2015 : 12:56AM
Actually, I wrote that "I am fully aware that "WM"/BF (and WF/BF) is also marketed as IR." I did so even before I edited the next two sentences in that comment for clarity.
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research1 Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 5 2015 : 12:58AM
Nor should they, unless the person is obviously another race. Ramon Namor is a White Hispanic, would that be IR if he did a since with Gianna Nicole? No, of course not. Ramon was racially ambiguous so he fit in with many different groups. Again, MoC was never meant to be a BM only site. There are plenty of movies specifically meant for BM performers. MoC is not. The quality of the site has dropped and they are struggling. Time to go back to what made the site great and bring in all races to fuck the women. The site is called MoC not MoBC!
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Posted - Aug 5 2015 : 12:58AM
^^Are you of the opinion that pornstars run the industry? How are they able to control how Bangbros tages and categorizes scenes? Edited by - misspornUSA on 8/5/2015 1:09:57 AM
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Posted - Aug 5 2015 : 1:02AM
Saying it was "never" meant to be a BM only site is simply inaccurate, unless you are suggesting that Bangbros treating it as such for so many years was unintentional on their part.
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Posted - Aug 5 2015 : 1:03AM
If you don't think their opinion matters, why are you quoting them? You can't even defend your ridiculous arguments, so you ignore points that contradict your claim. Then you try to question me about something I never said, straw men are the last refuge of the cowardly and foolish. Just admit the whole meme you and your ilk are pushing is total nonsense. People put up with it because they don't want to be harassed too, now they're saying enough with your lies.
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research1 Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 5 2015 : 1:05AM
Wow, you can't stop lying and obfuscating can you? Listen pal, if it was meant to be a BM only site, they would have made it so from the beginning. They wouldn't have included several non-Black men in the cast from the early years. Go cry somewhere else. There are several BM only sites. Edited by - research1 on 8/5/2015 1:06:46 AM
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"Remember" is an understatement. During 2014 AVNs I wrote an IR-interest "article" noting all the Black Male/Interracial nominations, giving my opinions of those on the list I had seen--DM5 was up for Best Interracial Release (lost to Lex Turns Evil). Ive seen it 20+ times since its release (Im sure this is for Nat Turnher's gorgeous face than for any other reason)... aaaand its GO-TO scene in my spank-bank ... yaaa I'm VERRRRY familiar ;)