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Mutatis
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151 Posts
10/07
Posted - Oct 9 2008 : 7:34PM
I occasionally like to partake in a good lez scene every now and then, trouble is there seem to be so few. And for me, it comes down to one thing: toys! Dildos and strap ons and vibrators. I just want to see the two girls getting each other off with what God gave them. It is so much more erotic and sensual than watching one chick shove a huge black dildo into another chick. And strap-ons? Am I missing something? I'm watching a lez scene to see two GIRLS go at it, not to see one girl pretend to be a dude.
As a subscriber to Videobox, it seems like 9 out of 10 lez scenes are with toys, and I am being conservative in that estimation. Who else feels the same? Who else wants to see more lezbian scenes without toys? Who is with me!?
ma meeshka
Iconoclastic Member

3939 Posts
4/06
Posted - Oct 9 2008 : 7:46PM
i don't really care either way.
there are plenty of scenes without toys. you just mustn't be looking in the right place.
even if there aren't, surely at least the first half of an average scene is toy-free.
Bobcat
Senior Member

1490 Posts
2/08
Posted - Oct 9 2008 : 7:58PM
Yeah, dude where are you looking!
Between Abbeywinters.com and Girlfriends films I can find as much non-toy lesbian action as I'm ever going to need.
jayo All-Star Supporter
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2117 Posts
7/04
Posted - Oct 9 2008 : 9:10PM
To me it's beef vs. pork vs. chicken. I get tired of the same thing all the time. I like variety. If it's well done, I like just girls. If it's well done, I like toys. If it's well done, I like Sybians and strap-ons.
If it's crap, it's crap regardless of whatever they're doing.
Mutatis
Member

151 Posts
10/07
Posted - Oct 9 2008 : 11:06PM
I said I subscribe to videobox. I don't have an endless suplly of money so I can just subscribe to every site that looks interesting.
 
bono-ONE All-Star Supporter
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SAMCRO
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Posted - Oct 9 2008 : 11:14PM
If you want to subscribe to a site that has a lot of non toy lesbian action that is awesome you need go no further than VivThomas.com He shoots gorgeous girls and there are lots of scenes on his site that feature no toys at all.
saynothing
Member

26 Posts
9/08
Posted - Oct 10 2008 : 1:29AM
I TOTALLY agree! gimme pink on pink & not plastic/rubber.
I'd rather see full o pussy ANY day than stupid ass toys ruining the view
Prophit
Member

378 Posts
1/07
Posted - Oct 10 2008 : 3:47AM
I hate toys.
If you're looking for movies without toys get No Boys No Toys 1 & 2 (Bad Seed). Best movies to ever come out without toys!
spitty
Member

730 Posts
12/04
Posted - Oct 10 2008 : 7:33AM
I totally agree with you , Mutatis. The majority of mainstream g/g porn scenes contain toys. I prefer no toys , more deep kissing , and more body contact, as well as the oral.
rough_lover
Member

36 Posts
8/08
Posted - Oct 10 2008 : 6:17PM
Yeah, I totally agree. It seems to be more sensual and erotic when it's just girl on girl only. Toys makes it feel a little bit forced instead of natural.
Mutatis
Member

151 Posts
10/07
Posted - Oct 10 2008 : 6:43PM
I also love when they do that "scissoring" where they rub thier vaginas together. Needs to be more of that.
jayo All-Star Supporter
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7/04
Posted - Oct 10 2008 : 7:15PM
Try AbbyWinters.com and their DVDs. They may have a lesbian scene that uses toys, but I don't remember seeing any (and I've seen a bunch of their stuff).
AW is more like amateur/realistic than most. If you like hugging, kissing, fingering, and girls who aren't all made up, then it's great. If you like glossy, beautiful porn stars and louder, more "performance" lesbian scenes, you probably won't like it.
AW has a good "tour" on their website to show you what they offer, and several of their DVDs have been reviewed here (usually be me or Astroknight). It's worth a look.
jds1966
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12 Posts
7/08
Posted - Oct 10 2008 : 8:29PM
rlankford
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Posted - Oct 10 2008 : 8:51PM
I think this aversion to toys points directly to the insecurity of men. I can't tell you how many women over the years I have heard talk about how their husbands/boyfriends/lovers were intimidated by or even resented their sex toys. For me, if a woman needs a vibrator or a big dildo to get off then more power to her. I just want to see her get off. FOR REAL.
Prophit
Member

378 Posts
1/07
Posted - Oct 11 2008 : 4:22AM
It might be true that toys help a woman get off in real life but in lesbian porn often quite the opposite is true because toys are used as an excuse to avoid really having sex. I have seen many scenes with toys and rarely do I see a scene where the girls really try to get each other off with dildos. Most of the time they use them in a pretty lame way on each other. If it's a masturbation scene then it might be different because the girl usually wants to get off.
I guarantee you most women would probably tell you that they can get off on the tongue of a man or woman much better than on a dildo.
Edited by - Prophit on 10/11/2008 4:23:29 AM
 
SJOriginal
Member

I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way
158 Posts
9/08
Posted - Oct 11 2008 : 6:08AM
I've had plenty of sex with women in my personal life. As a bisexual woman I would like to offer a little inside perspective. I 100% agree with many of the posters here that the girls are basically using toys as a get-out-of-jail-free card. However I still like to see toys in scenes as they DO exist in real lesbian sex. Now, not all lesbians like toys; not everyone likes everything. But in my experience there has been PLENTY of vibrators, dildos and strap-ons. In fact some women like to "pretend they're dudes". It's not all fluffy pillow play and scissor sex I'm here to tell ya! You'd be quite surprised at the rough finger fucking, anal pounding, giant dildo slamming and fisting that takes place between women. Women are acutely aware of how tough the pussy is and they will test those limits and push their partners. Women are also, generally speaking, quite visual and there is something so delightful about watching a woman's pussy swallowing a huge rubber cock. Most lesbians, bisexual girls and guys (I do believe) enjoy this very basic of God given visuals. Praise Jesus and the dildo.
However, I am tired of the lame-o scenes where girls are almost afraid to deep kiss, hold each other or bury themselves between their partners legs. They'll gulp down a serving of man juice but delicately tip toe around the pussy like it was booby trapped with landmines. IF girls are going to have sex on screen can there at least be some passion and at the very least can they pretend to enjoy it? How about a little acting just for the viewers sake? Oh, and that side kissing thing for camera, when the girls stick out their tongues and lick each other; who does that???
I say keep the toys because IT HAPPENS. Don't be under any false illusion that (some, most) women don't like phallic objects inside their orifices. We LOVE them and we will use them by ourselves and with our male and female partners. I've found that (some) men can be a little skittish around a big dildo, but if he is confident with his sexuality and size there is never a problem. However I have encountered a past lover or two who "forbid" me to use toys unless they were smaller then his penis. But I digress; there should be more inclusion of genuine eroticism, tease, build up, touching, deep and genuine kissing and good old fashioned pussy eating.
PS Girls NEVER have scissor sex when they're off screen. They don't hit each other with pillows while wearing pink teddies. They don't slip milkshakes from one glass with two straws and then giggle. This is purely for aesthetics and the pages of Playboy. Sorrrrryyyy to break the news.
Sarah Jane x
ma meeshka
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Posted - Oct 11 2008 : 6:57AM
spitty
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730 Posts
12/04
Posted - Oct 11 2008 : 9:24AM
I don't believe this "insecurity of men" thing at all. I am sure that alot of people don't mind a little toy use in g/g porn but , like prophit said , it's often used to avoid really having sex. Toys often replace all other sexual acts between the women because it's the easy way out for many actresses who are not even bisexual.
I saw a g/g vid a while back where one girl was fucking another with a dildo and , at the same time , they were french kissing with total lust the entire time. It was very hot. Why can't some of these directors do stuff like that ? There was other stuff , too , like oral , fingering , body contact with deep kissing , etc. ....but that was an instance where toy use didn't bother me because the passion and chemistry were there.
Jewel de Nyle made "lick between the lines" with no toys and it was a great g/g video which many enjoyed. At my local video club , the best renting g/g vids are the ones with no toys like Viv Thomas , Girlfriends films , etc.
Loraine
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3/04
Posted - Oct 11 2008 : 9:44AM
Cerebral Jedi
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I don't trust men who don't like big tits.
1067 Posts
12/04
Posted - Oct 11 2008 : 12:17PM
If I'm going to watch girl/girl action I prefer some toy usage. But it's not required. Look all I want is hot chicks engaged in some hot nasty sex. And whatever they do or use to get each other off and me in the process is good enough for me.
SJOriginal
Member

I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way
158 Posts
9/08
Posted - Oct 11 2008 : 5:29PM
SJOriginal
Member

I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way
158 Posts
9/08
Posted - Oct 11 2008 : 5:30PM
Okay ... they do, I lied.
Uppercut
Member

74 Posts
3/08
Posted - Oct 11 2008 : 6:19PM
I turn off any lesbians scene once the toys come out. Especially the glass dildoes. Yuck.
spitty
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730 Posts
12/04
Posted - Oct 12 2008 : 9:37AM
oldguy
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1270 Posts
3/06
Posted - Oct 12 2008 : 12:34PM
SJOriginal - when is it proper to ask a female acquaintance that you feel you can speak freely with about her choice of toys, vibrators, dildo's what have you? To me, that is a turn on in itself, talking about masturbation with a lady, asking if she enjoys it and to what degree and comparing notes on the whole getting off solo with them. In fact, one of my dearest fantasies is stroking off while watching a lady friend doing herself as well. Is this perverted or not? In my mind it isn't. What do other members think about this?
 
jayo All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Oct 12 2008 : 1:19PM
That's also my favorite subject. If sex is being discussed already, then I usually ease into it. If not, I leave it alone. I've found women who were willing to discuss it, and some who (even after they'd admitted they masturbate) didn't want to talk about it at all. I usually try to sense the mood of the room and go with the flow, because every time I've tried to press it, it's like swinging a big iron door shut.
born 2b a loner
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19 Posts
10/08
Posted - Oct 12 2008 : 8:02PM
total Misandry.
RFrog
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396 Posts
10/07
Posted - Oct 12 2008 : 11:04PM
I like to watch lesbian or bi-sexual female scenes, where the women are really into each other.
A few times, I've had the good fortune to witness some girl on girl smooching.
Once, I was on a nightclub dance floor. Two women that I knew, were totally making out hardcore.
Another time, I was at a house party. Birthday girl and her female friend/lover were making out hardcore in the kitchen corner. A few of us were watching. Boob squeezing and lip smacking and tongue action! [:P)]
That was real shit!
So... toys or no toys? I don't care. As long as the women are really into it!
Mutatis
Member

151 Posts
10/07
Posted - Oct 12 2008 : 11:08PM
Sweet. I don't care if you are just being nice by saying that, at least letting the dream live is merciful.
And I don't think I'd care much of my girl wanted to use toys. I would just want her to get off. If that means toys, so be it.
born 2b a loner
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19 Posts
10/08
Posted - Oct 12 2008 : 11:08PM
One time there was a bumblebee on my toilet paper and when I reached to get it I didn't realize it because there was a bumblebee pattern on my toilet paper and it buzzed up and it stung me right on the ear so that is when I thought about lesbianism and it being fake or not and how it needs to be real.
So to answer your question: I agree.
tintintin
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1230 Posts
8/07
Posted - Oct 13 2008 : 4:36AM
The problem in most of the lesbian flicks is not the toys... it's how the girls use the toys.
Most of the time the put it in and out looking at their watch for the time they van leave for home.
In a scene where toys are used.... the pussylicking and kissing in most cases is skipped... and that's the problem. A combination of kissing, licking and toys can be very hot.
Toys can be very erotic. For instance scenes wehre girls put the toys in the arse and lick the pussy at the same time, or put the toy in the pussy and licking the arse....... finishing of with an erotic kiss.
You are wright about the fact that in most cases toys are used in a robotic way.
Edited by - tintintin on 10/13/2008 4:39:14 AM
SJOriginal
Member

I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way
158 Posts
9/08
Posted - Oct 14 2008 : 2:21AM
There is no doubt that some men have this insecurity when it comes to vibrators and dildos. Lots of men and women have insecurities when it comes to sex or whatever....but I don't believe that it is the reason for g/g porn viewers not wanting to see toys in g/g videos. It may be for some but ,IMO , not for the vast majority. People just want to see a hot lesbian scene where there is actual sex and lovemaking.....they want a scene to be as authentic looking as possible ....and that holds true for a hetero scene , as well.
Edited by - spitty on 10/12/2008 9:38:47 AM
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Again ... please read my entire post above. I concur with many of the things mentioned in your post along with others. I was merely adding my sexual experience to the mix; and confirming that the toy/confidence issue does in fact exist. But in no means is the entire and sole reason for men not liking toys in movies. Please .... read my post in it's entirety. Thanks
sj
SJOriginal
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I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way
158 Posts
9/08
Posted - Oct 14 2008 : 2:30AM
First of all there is nothing wrong with being "perverted"!!! Not in my books. The only time I am against perversion of any sort is when it concerns children or non-consenting persons or animals. Otherwise "perversion" just means off the beaten track. Watching your lady cum is hardly perverted, but we all have our parameters.
Having an open discussion about all things sexual is healthy and intimate. I couldn't imagine having a lover and not being open about my passions, turns-ons, turn-offs and most wanton of perverted desires. I hope that he in turn reciprocates the dialogue. However I am married now and there is not a single dark corner of my mind that my husband isn't completely aware of. We talk, we share, we fantasize, and we make it all come true together.
Oldguy ... I hope your fantasy comes true and soon!
SJ
oldguy
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Posted - Oct 14 2008 : 4:53AM
SJOriginal, since you used to be in the porn business I hope you don't mind me asking if there are any pics of you at freeones.com and, if so, under what name?
Your posts are always well thought out and above all sexy, makes me horny just to read them.
SJOriginal
Member

I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way
158 Posts
9/08
Posted - Oct 14 2008 : 7:12PM

Your posts are always well thought out and above all sexy, makes me horny just to read them.
[/quote]
Hi Oldguy ... My name was Sarah Jane Hamilton.
I made hundreds of movies, half of which are compilations now. Check out the following genres: "Red Heads", "Big Boobs", "English Girls", and above all "Squirt" movies. I should be listed under most of these genres. I made some classics such as Immortal Desires, Takin' It To the Limit 2 or 3 I think, StarBangers 3, Unplugged, Steam, Greek Week, Jet Stream, Prison World, and had my own series Love Bunnies... to name a few. I was a stripper in England for about 3 years and was a Page 3 girl and nudie mag pin-up before becoming an adult actress. I retired about 12-13 years ago and have been actively naughty and sexually adventurous ever since!!!
Thanks ... I'm glad I still make people horny!!! It puts a smile on my face!!! :):):)
Sarah Jane
 
ma meeshka
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Posted - Oct 14 2008 : 7:59PM
i really appreciate your insights and the fact that you're interested in contributing to adt.
ma meeshka
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3939 Posts
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Posted - Oct 14 2008 : 8:00PM
AND THAT YOU SHATTER ILLUSIONS FOR ME!!!!
SJOriginal
Member

I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way
158 Posts
9/08
Posted - Oct 14 2008 : 8:22PM
Sorry, I take everything back. Whatever is in your head, it's all true, promise.
But I do appreciate the nice and welcoming comments. I like ADT, it helps me stay "a breast" of the really important topics of the day like how to handle cum and who has the nicest unaltered rack.

ma meeshka
Iconoclastic Member

3939 Posts
4/06
Posted - Oct 14 2008 : 8:49PM
and that racism, homophobia, and misogyny are still rampant amongst the masses.
oh, and that toys ruin 'lesbian' porn.
Narcissus
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Love Thyself
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Posted - Oct 14 2008 : 11:21PM
+1
look here...
Prophit
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378 Posts
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Posted - Oct 15 2008 : 4:37AM
more like here...
and here...
The one you linked to is just a compilation. Might be nice too but I don't think it compares to the ones from Bad Seed.
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