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Linus TR fan
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318 Posts
11/03
Posted - Nov 23 2003 : 6:40AM
Since I'm new here, I'm still trying to figure out what people in the know think. Which for Porn you all are people in the know to me. My question to you is what do you all think makes the best porn. Cast, The sex itself, acting(hah), how bold the positions are, whatever.

I guess I'm just wondering how odd I am. I get into so many discussions with friends and people I know that like porn, and everytime it seems like it starts with something like "aw shit man I saw this movie the other day, and this girl she took a DAP, then an ATM to a facial." And I ask who was it, the reply "fuck I dont know, but it rocked"

You see I think chemistry and talent are probably the most important thing in a movie I watch. I dont care if its a QAP (quadruple anal penetration} if the girl is some uggo and she's just posing there with no expression while 4 guys militaryesque position themselves to accomplish the probably impossible feat.

I want to see a cute pretty girl that stirs my imagination, and see some good chemistry and real heat in the scene, some mutual pleasure, or atleast some damned good acting. I dont want to see a vanilla scene, but I'll forgive some lack of creative positions if the earlier conditions are met.

Dont get me wrong, especially lately, there are a whole lot of very cute girls out there, even a lot of the talent they just keep dragging in are pretty cute, but there still are some movies that drag out anybody with breasts, and stick some dick in them.

Anyway, I was just curious as to what some of you thought, and especially since it seems many of you have a much better understanding of the industry and general porn community than I do. Am I not a good porn fan, or do you just need more variance as you emmerce yourself deeper into the industry? Any thoughts are appreciated

Edited by - Linus TR fan on Nov 23 2003

DenverDon
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Posted - Nov 23 2003 : 7:23AM
Linus,

Welcome to the forum.

I would suggest that you go back (6 months or perhaps as far as one year) and read some of the older threads. Many of the topics you have broached have been touched upon, and sometimes covered in depth in the threads.

Don't read only this forum, The Porn Pool, but also go through the Star Crossed, Sex Talk, Polls (which poll members on a large variety of subjects) and the World News & Nonsense.

DenverDon

picman
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Posted - Nov 23 2003 : 7:48AM
Passion, enthusiasm and real intensity are the keys to good porn for me. It should be a given that the women are attractive. Using men who really appreciate those women help to build the chemistry and a director that knows how to present them as well as film them. Good scenes are fairly commonplace, but truly great scenes are rare.
DukeAbercrombie
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9/03
Posted - Nov 23 2003 : 9:12AM
the most important thing in porn is finding a girl who likes it and then shooting cum in her eyes.
DenverDon
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Posted - Nov 23 2003 : 9:52AM
Duke,

Did you perhaps post in the wrong thread??

Try this one.

I don't think that's quite what Linus was looking for.

 
Walter Burns
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11/02
Posted - Nov 23 2003 : 12:29PM
What am I looking for in porn? Well, a conbination of 'blissful rupture' and 'pure porn spectacle' (damn, I can't create a link for this one).
(Walter, you lazy SOB, you still haven't written that post on 'pure porn spectacle'.)
OK, some time ago, I tried to develop a systematic answer to your question about the differences in porn taste. I tried to develop a 'systematic universal porn pragmatics'. I kinda forgot about it, thogh, but maybe you could read the very lenghty post I made on the second page of that thread. At the end, I tried to explain the chart I developed by relating it to my own taste in porn.
The most important conclusion I made in that thread with regards to your question, is that there is no wrong way to look at porn.

Hmmmm... of course, it is entirely possible that you are not looking for this kind of discussion at all?




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"Just a reminder - hot sex happens between people, not body parts."

DukeAbercrombie
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180 Posts
9/03
Posted - Nov 23 2003 : 12:43PM
i thought it was a terrible thread with very closeminded bias ignorant views. i wish it to disappear. im not bumping it.
-Kelly-
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5/03
Posted - Nov 23 2003 : 12:57PM
Hey, how's it going,

The power of the cast compells me.

For me, the single most important factor in any piece of pornography I see is the female cast. If you were to get in a discussion with me and ask me the same question you asked your friends I would sadly almost definitely know the name of the girl I was talking about. Incidentally, double anals and double vaginals sort of freak me out. That's too hardcore for me.

Secondly, the most important factor is the company producing the film. That seems a rather broad thing to say but if you read here a lot I think you will find a lot of agreement with me on this point. So many of us here debate or are eternal champions of our favorite companies, such as Evil Angel or Red Light Distict. And this actually makes a lot of sense because by and large the titles produced from companies all of universal qualites. Rent something from RedLight and you know you are going to get awesome production values. Rent something from RedLight and you know you are going to get phenomenal direction from directors who know how to make girls look better in their videos than they have anywhere else (ie Jules Jordan.) This again returns to the cast because the only pornstar who I will rent in anything is Taylor St. Claire. Whether she is in a subpar FilmCo production or a lavish Evil Angel video, I will get it though I will know to have lowered expectatins for the former. However, some companies I will not rent from. I will not get anything from FilmCo anymore or HomeGrownVideo or ElegantAngel or HusterVideo. Two girls I like include Jennifer Luv and Dana Vespoli and they were both in Hustler's "Latin Girls #7" but I refused to rent it because I knew it was going to be tame 12-18 minute scenes compiling a 80-90 minute tape.

When I talk about porn in a broad sense these are most definitely the most important factors to me. Things such as position sequencing and whether or not anal is involved are all secondary to me, though I think I have asked the "does she do anal in this one?" question quite a bit around here. And some might argue that a strong chemistry between the performers is important and it is, but something like that can be present and still be ruined by incompetent directing, lighting, editing, etc.


Kelly

Edited by - tscfan317 on 11/23/2003 1:18:54 PM

DenverDon
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Posted - Nov 23 2003 : 12:58PM
Fair enough, but IMO posting something that was the topic of the other thread in this thread didn't seem correct either, at least as far as I read and understood Linus' question.

Linus, regarding your topic, there have been many other thread/topics started that do address much of what you asked. For a direct resonse, I would pretty much echo picman.

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11/02
Posted - Nov 23 2003 : 3:04PM
Because I'm too lazy and inarticulate today to write some mega-post, I'll go straight to the point:

1) Casting. I love superstars.
2) Director. Because I too can put a camera on my shoulder and close up on a dilated asshole. At least I think I can. So I expect something else.
3) Boxcover. I know, it's so stupid, but go figure. At least, if the movie's shite, I'll still be proud to display it on my shelves. Boxcovers are part of the reason why I rarely buy gonzo. New sensations is the exception.

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Linus TR fan
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318 Posts
11/03
Posted - Nov 23 2003 : 3:49PM
Sorry to start another one then. I skimmed back a little ways, and didnt really see anything to this effect, but I'll look farther back.

Thanks for the replies so far though, I think I'm pretty much in line with most of you other posters here so far.

picman
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Posted - Nov 23 2003 : 9:04PM
My take on this is if you have good chemistry it will show through even with less than stellar direction. If you have good direction, or more to the point, a director that knows when to just film, and good technical underpinnings, then you have a great scene. I think part of being a great director is trying to put together performers that seem like a good match.
-Kelly-
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5/03
Posted - Nov 23 2003 : 9:44PM
Hey, how's it going,

"I think part of being a great director is trying to put together performers that seem like a good match."

I remember talking to Renee LaRue a couple of years ago when she started co-directing her series "Renee Larue's X-Rated Auditions" with Bobby Rinaldi and she told me that she really wanted to put together performers who wanted to work together. So, Chennin Blanc is paired with her husband Cheyne Collins. Taylor St. Claire is put together with one of her most frequent co-stars in Steven St. Croix. Renee herself is paired with Lee Stone. Etc. That was just the first installment.

My point in that is that maybe performers understand the need for this as much as or even better than directors.


Kelly

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15 Posts
11/03
Posted - Nov 24 2003 : 2:42AM
Linus,

You ask us what makes the best porn? Well...its all in the eye of the beholder I think. I consider myself to be very deviant kinda guy...I really enjoy some hardcore stuff...you don't see here in the states!!

Back to the question though...I think having a capable director who loves porn and loves hot women is Key to having a great scene!! Someone who understands good camera work . The right amount of focus on the the penetration and the expressions of the female talent. A director who can talk to the talent...keep their mind on the tasks at hand...coz everyone knows new talent ..in their first scene can get squirrely and flake. If the director is a smart guy he can pull a great scene out of girl who is otherwise scared shitless!!!

Now having said that...having a good female perfomer who loves to perform and has genuinely sexual personality is the shit !!!A woman who enjoys hot nasty hard fucking and is camera aware and knows how to play to the camera...I love it!!! Those kinds of performers keep me coming back for more, the more perverted she is willing to get the better the scene is for me. So I guess what I am saying the best porn in my honest little opinion is having a Quality conscious director and a Hot ready willing and able female performer who can work the dick like a fiend !!! Oh yea and the male talent must be able to stay hard and try as hard as he can to work that pussy for all hes worth..if you have those three wonderful things ...that is the best kinda scene for me!!!but this is just my own humble opinion.

your friendly nieghborhood,

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davecummings
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368 Posts
12/02
Posted - Nov 24 2003 : 11:48PM
I sense that "Whackability" is what most viewers want; for us guys watching alone, it's a 45-second set-up followed by such hot sex that it arouses us to ejaculate; for women/couples, it might be emotionalism/pre-play/passion/scenario/etc, just so long as it leads to coitus/sex and love-making for them.

We're not trying to watch a "Gone with the Wind" piece of entertainment; rather, something that excites the viewer. IOW, "whackability".

Dave
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monkey power
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1/03
Posted - Nov 26 2003 : 8:21PM
For me, the best formula for whackability is a one-on-one scene so the people can focus on each other and build up some proper intensity. It would be well lit and she'd have a good hair and makeup person and she'd get on top, facing both ways in turn, and she'd be filmed from both sides by a roving one-shot take (in order to avoid the silliness that can come from over-editing). She'd have the energy and exuberance to make nice smiley fuckfaces at the camera when appropriate and at the dude when appropriate. And there'd be the sense of a romp to it, as opposed to a checklist of positions dutifully carried out.

That would be the ideal scene for me. Sometimes if movie looks like it contains such a scene, I'll take a chance on it even if the other scenes appear to be crappy. I've learned that even one such scene done to perfection can be worth more than all the sex on a freakin 6 hour compilation tape from hell. But I'll only chase after such elusive gambles so often.

Most of the time I walk into the store trying to find the best overall movie. And I screen for that by 1) Strongest Cast and then by 2) best looking sex. Then if it's a tie I narrow it down from there by looking for 3) the movie that most closely matches my ideal style of porn described above.

Edited by - monkey power on 11/26/2003 8:28:57 PM

vickinboston
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5 Posts
12/03
Posted - Dec 5 2003 : 12:00AM
I think chemistry and a decent story line is important. Also really amazing positions are always fun to watch.

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