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| Oneloa Member 848 Posts 2/00 |  Posted - Jun 19 2000 : 1:50PMJim, You seem to be the ideal person to ask throw this idea to. In [url=467261]this thread , DGF inspired this thought. I've never seen any of your movies, so I don't how the girls kiss in your films. But, how about a film with that shows girls in deep passionate kisses? The sex could go from there, but the emphasis on kissing with real heat. None of the lizard tongue licks. Almost every lesbian movie I've seen has the girls kiss from 3 inches away flicking their tongues at each other. It's very fake, and very un-erotic. I think all of us fans of lesbian films would find this extremely hot!!! What are your thoughts on this? [This message has been edited by Oneloa (edited June 19, 2000).] [Link] |
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| Evil_Rip Senior Member Power overwhelming 1117 Posts 12/99 | Posted - Jun 19 2000 : 9:03PM I know this is a little different from what you were talking about. But I've heard really good things from the people who've bought these videos. yeah. their VHS.. =( Interesting concept IMHO. ------------------ [Link] |
| DGF Member 122 Posts 1/00 | Posted - Jun 19 2000 : 10:04PM Personally, I would prefer if the women looked like they are in love rather than just having sex. Of course this is a hard thing to do in porn, unless you used girls that were real life lovers or something like that. And they should give the scene time to build up and not just jump right ahead to the dildo stuff. The dildos can be erotic but they are rarely used that way. Dildos should probably just be banned. The sex in porn just seems impersonal like some mechanical thing that the actresses are just trying to get over with. Where's the passion that makes it look real? You see in lesbian porn, I don't find it erotic to see a dildo going in and out. That's just a mechanical thing. I could just as well go watch some piston in an engine. To be erotic they should appear to be in love, kiss for real,look into each other's eyes, hold hands and show their bodies together and all that. And all this requires a little time before the sex to set-up the scene. A proper plot and foreplay like a seduction scene beforehand can really make the whole scene so much more erotic as a large part of eroticism is in the mind. For example the seduction scene could be on how an older woman seduces a younger girl who's never been with a woman before. And where's the oral love where you can see one woman literally making love to the other woman's pussy? That's what I like. Felicia is good at this, you can see that Felicia really enjoys it. And that lizard tongue flicking, that is such a big turn-off. It is such a turn-off it'd be better if they had no kissing at all instead of tongue-flicking. That's because a lot of eroticism is mental and by tongue flicking the girls are just showing they're not really into it. By tongue-flicking it's as if the actresses were thinking "Yuck, another girl, yuck, that's so icky, I'll do it for the money but it's so disgusting to kiss another girl". I remember a scene I saw with Coral Sands and Sana Fey. They were doing a lot of things and at one point Sana approached Coral to give her a French kiss and Coral Sands literally moved her head away to avoid the kiss. A good French kiss can go a long way to improving a scene just because it is such a rare thing. Two of my favorite scenes in "Jenna's Built for Speed" are precisely the two scenes where Jenna gives a good French Kiss. One with Brittany Andrews and the other with Nadia Moore. These two scenes were pretty normal lesbian porn scenes but those good kisses made a big difference. Another thing I would add is that I prefer real sounds instead of porn music. At least the real sound shouldn't be covered up. If music is to be added it should be made to look as part of the scene by say one of the actresses turning on a stereo. And it should be music appropriate for the scene, like the music that a real person would have actually tuned the stereo to. The real sounds of kissing and licking can be so erotic. And the sounds of pleasure the girls make as well as the talking can be very erotic. [This message has been edited by DGF (edited June 19, 2000).] [Link] |
| Jim_Gunn Jim Gunn Productions Ft. Lauderdale, FL 19 Posts 5/00 | Posted - Jun 21 2000 : 11:03AM I try to start off each scene with lotsa kissing and let the girls play with each others' bodies for the first segment of a scene, prior to breaking out the toys if there are toys in the scene. In "Lesbian Cheerleader Squad #1" I had seven scenes, so I had a few that were completely toyless and a couple that had four girls and strap-ons, so I thought that was a good mix. In "Lesbian Teenyboppers" I think that I did away with the strap-ons completely. In any case, for every guy in 'no toys' camp, there's another vocal guy who insists on the strap-on banging, I guess some people have come to expect it after all these lesbian movies I have made. So hopefully I can appeal to everyone with a mix of toy and non-toy action in each movie and the individual scenes themselves. As far as the nature of the kisses, a lot of the girls I shoot are newcummers who inexperienced with women and inexperienced on camera, so sometimes that nervousness shows a bit depending on how good an actress the girl is. I find it just as fascinating to film an outstretched tongue flick kiss from two strippers who have never been with a woman before as I do to film a deep kiss from two real life lovers as I sometimes do. And if I happen to know that the girl is not really into other women in real life, I find it doubly fascinating, he he, but that's a question for another day. PS-I agree that the natural audio tracks are preferable, so I often do not add music to my young girl flicks, like the two mentioned above. ------------------ ------ Jim Gunn jimgunn@jimgunn.com www.jimgunn.com www.lesbianloving.com [Link] |
| Oneloa Member 848 Posts 2/00 | Posted - Jun 21 2000 : 11:24AM Ever seen Cruel Intentions? It's a mainstream film with Sarah Michelle Gellar (Buffy). There's a scene in it where she shares this slow tongue kiss with another girl. Very hot! (wipe sweat from brow) If you've never seen it, I have an mpeg of it... I could send it to you via email if you want. I enjoy this kind of kiss far more than the extended tongues. I guess it's because I never see people actually kiss like that. It seems fake to me. Or when you see a scene with a girl that is faking her way through a muff diving scene by barely connecting with the flesh. This is common in some of the artsy porn films. Time to hit the FF button! I'll have to check out one of your films! Which one would you say has the best example of what I'm looking for? [Link] |
| Jim_Gunn Jim Gunn Productions Ft. Lauderdale, FL 19 Posts 5/00 | Posted - Jun 21 2000 : 12:12PM As far as my flicks, I recommend "Lesbian Cheerleader Squad #1", it has the most lesbian kissing of any fick I have ever made. Saki reviewd it, as well as others, and a few of the online stores are offering it on DVD at competitive pices- check the price search here on adultdvdtalk.com. ------------------ ------ Jim Gunn jimgunn@jimgunn.com www.jimgunn.com www.lesbianloving.com [Link] |
| Oneloa Member 848 Posts 2/00 | Posted - Jun 21 2000 : 2:28PM In one of your upcoming films, perhaps you could emphasize these slow passionate kisses???? Having the girls do this during foreplay as well as during the strap-on scenes. By-the-way, I happen to be one that likes the use of strap-ons (as long as it's done right). I like seeing the girls take the role of the man and literally "fuck" her woman. Also, watching a girl's ass pump away is far more attractive than seeing a man's. [Link] |
| fisheye Member 98 Posts 5/00 | Posted - Jun 21 2000 : 3:14PM There is a place in the market for a girl-girl kissing / realistic make out themed dvd. I mean if there are entire dvds devoted to other small sub genres of XXX. One requirement though , Ashley Heart.[Link] |
| Jim_Gunn Jim Gunn Productions Ft. Lauderdale, FL 19 Posts 5/00 | Posted - Jun 22 2000 : 11:37AM I do have some gorgeous young cuties lined up for "Lesbian Cheerleader Squad #2" though, and I promise I'll have them making out all over the place. ;-) ------------------ ------ Jim Gunn jimgunn@jimgunn.com www.jimgunn.com www.lesbianloving.com [Link] |
| fisheye Member 98 Posts 5/00 | Posted - Jun 22 2000 : 4:10PM [Link] |
| Janitor Retired Porno movies, sexy videos, xxx. Adult DVD Talk at your service. 6409 Posts 11/99 | Posted - Jun 23 2000 : 7:30PM I just rented Cruel Intentions last night - not to see the girls kiss, but you reminded me that I wanted to see it. What a great movie! I loved Dangerous Liasons (book and movie) - and Cruel Intentions certainly did it justice. ------------------------------------------ You may now call me the queen of tangents. I'll try to be more on topic next time [Link] |
| Jim_Gunn Jim Gunn Productions Ft. Lauderdale, FL 19 Posts 5/00 |  Posted - Jun 24 2000 : 1:17AM------------------ [Link] |
| sonic Deactivated User 1178 Posts 12/99 |  Posted - Jun 24 2000 : 1:53AMHave you seen Wild Things? ..................... I love the ending for Cruel Intentions..I also find that Buffy girl so HOT! The dumb brunette chick (Zoe)..what a body. Poor guy threw her off the bed. [Link] |
| MoleMan Member My parents basement 7 Posts 2/00 | Posted - Jun 24 2000 : 2:16AM [Link] |
| Janitor Retired Porno movies, sexy videos, xxx. Adult DVD Talk at your service. 6409 Posts 11/99 | Posted - Jun 24 2000 : 11:45AM I know it's hard for you to believe but all the world's decisions don't revolve around watching erotic moments between girls sonic haven't seen Wild Things, should I? frankly I was more into the sexy boy (though he didn't compare to John Malkovich in Dangerous Liasons.) MoleMan glad to see you out the basement[This message has been edited by StephDunn (edited June 24, 2000).] [Link] |
| Oneloa Member 848 Posts 2/00 | Posted - Jun 25 2000 : 2:09AM Yeah I loved Cruel Intentions as well. And yes, Wild Things is a great movie too. I first watched it just to see the lezbo scene, but I was surprised at how good it was. It has a twisting plot and keeps you guessing. I love films like that. Now we need a porn like that! [Link] |
| torris Senior Member Deep within Mila's anus 1827 Posts 1/00 | Posted - Jun 25 2000 : 12:17PM Jim, Ever seen Cruel Intentions? It's a mainstream film with Sarah Michelle Gellar (Buffy). There's a scene in it where she shares this slow tongue kiss with another girl. Very hot! (wipe sweat from brow) If you've never seen it, I have an mpeg of it... I could send it to you via email if you want. ===== Onelea, Care to email me a copy of this mpeg to torris@mindspring.com? TIA! [Link] |
| Oneloa Member 848 Posts 2/00 | Posted - Jun 27 2000 : 11:56AM [Link] |
| DGF Member 122 Posts 1/00 | Posted - Jun 29 2000 : 11:32PM But the world does revolve around erotic moments between girls, Steph. Didn't you know that? [Link] |
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