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The last time I checked, the only thing a person needed to be a mother was a uterus, an active pair of ovaries, and a sperm donor.
Are 16-year old unwed mothers "MILF" candidates?
Of course, when the typical porn producer is so divorced from reality that he habitually refers to women over 50 who appear in his productions as "grannies", you know you're in deep trouble.
As for me, the performers who are nowadays referred to as "MILFs", I call "grown-up women" (as opposed to, say, to "legal girls").
If I was given a choice () between bedding down Vicky Vette or the current teeny-bopper "IT" girl (whoever she may be, from minute to minute), I'd be in there worshipping Ms. Vette's loveliness faster than you could blink an eye.
Phwew!!! That was exhausting!
It's time for me to go home now and take my Geritol.
I review as many good "MILF" titles that I can get my hands on and I agree with the original poster's sentiments wholeheartedly. I just like to see grown women in my porn and it's a shame that what producers and directors today consider "mature" or "MILFs" were the norm not even twenty years ago. I remember when Barely Legal was just a Hustler line and an emerging genre...now the entire industry has been taken over by chicks that aren't even old enough to drink.
Liked the older Shanna McCullough much better than the younger. Liked the older Jewel DeNyle much better than the younger. Like the older Tiffany Minx much better than the younger. Like the..., you get the point.
All the normal pervs are hangin' around the high school preyin' on the girls, I'm hanging around the elementary school, tryin' to hit on mommies.
the term milf originally meant a "mother(of a friend) i'd like to fuck." for example my friend dustin has a mom who is hot as hell & id like to fuck her. milf alert. dustin also has a sister who is 19 & has a newborn. NOT a milf.
my requirements is that a prospective milf must have a child that is a minimum of 18 years of age.
You are just trying to turn me on now, aren't you?I am just so happy to see Mason back posting. I miss ya, lady! Hope all is going well in your new professional adventures.
I think the whole "MILF" thing is just a label that lets people who dig mature women know that that's what they can expect. I think it's originally from the mainstream flick, American Pie. Maybe someone should come up with another term for hot older women. It does seem ridiculous to see girls in their 20's referred to as "MILF's." Personally, I like lots of different types of women. College age girls, mature women, waifish, voluptuous - as long as they have a genuine sexual energy that comes across on screen, I can dig it. Regarding Shanna McCullough: I liked her when she was a cute young thing first starting out, and I like her even better these days. She's like a fine wine.
Bless you, guys!Women over the age of 30 that have been in the business for a while take a lot less shit on camera than the young girls. You get the feeling that the stud that rams Janine's head down on his cock til she barfs won't keep that cock intact for long. Mature women have skill, finesse, knowledge, sensuality and playfulness, along with ripe, fantastic bodies. They have character in their faces and a sparkle in the eye. But again, they don't take any abuse, they demand to be pleasured, and in general conduct themselves with dignity and grace. This can be said for the female population at large.How about woman ?
If she looks and/or fucks like a young girl, call her a "girl." If she looks and fucks like a woman , call her a "woman."
For some time now I have been trying to see if there is a director interested in exploring the genre...and actually making a good series of mature-ladies-films where the women are between 36-45. I also suggested to Jaysin at Sinsational/Sineplex that such a line of films will be great as it is virtually missing from the market (I DO NOT conisder the few overused pros and their films to be representative of what I am talking about).
I am also bored to death seeing the notorious now MILF lines of products where there are performers in their 20s. The norm should be at least 34/35 and up.
With this said I am waiting for someone to deliver a new and exciting line of mature titles (SINEPLEX???).
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Posted - Oct 29 2005 : 1:43AM
A Milf is any mom you wanna bang. Their age doesn't matter. I think the problem is the fact the some people consider Milf's "mature". You all know how women hate the thought of being considered older. They should only be considered "Experienced"!
Old and mature are two completely different things!! And your analogy is way off base....there are plenty of "Moms" that are 18-19...I do not consider them MILFS!!
Good & Evil is merely a matter of perspective, I perfer to call myself... Determined 1229 Posts 7/05
Posted - Oct 29 2005 : 2:25AM
Does that mean you wouldn't fuck 18-19 year old moms? Also, "mature" and "older" are both terms that have been used to describe older women. Anywho, it's just an opinion.
I've always cosidered "MILF" to be pretty specific in definition: A Mother of a child at least 10 years of age, or older that would create sexual fantasies in a male or female of teen age or older.
Now maybe I'm just too into the 'American Pie' lingo on the term, but itdefinitely has to do with a woman who is over 30 and is still considered highly fuckable.
Hehehe. Okay malkira, if she looks like a girl and fucks like a woman, you can call her a "woman." I mean, she may look young, but she's earned the right to be called a woman.
If she looks like a woman but still fucks like a girl, you can call her a cab to come get her the fuck out of porn valley.
If she looks like a woman but breaks like a girl, you can call her a fucking ambulance.
My whole beef with the MILF porn is that I'll see women who are in their early 30s being labeled mature.
WTF is up with that.
When I think of mature, I think of 40 plus.
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Posted - Oct 29 2005 : 3:25PM
Mature when compared to the kids who populate the industry. :)
It's a peculiar phenomenon. Back when I was a teen, which is long before the dumbass American Pie movies, we had very few women who fell into that category. Maybe Gloria Estefan (she had her song when she was pretty young) and Demi Moore.
During those times, it was like, once a woman became a mother she seemed to let herself go. Or didn't try to regain her pre-pregnancy look. You just didn't see mothers, even in their 30s, who look like Kate Beckinsale, Charisma Carpenter or Uma Thurman do now. I for one welcome it.
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Posted - Oct 30 2005 : 2:06PM
Damn, I first thought you had written 'an attractive pair of ovaries'. I was so ready to collect a new Bob quote for the WBQP™. Lucky, you made up elsewhere for this missed opportunity.
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yes, but what are the odds there are enough well known women in the industry who fit in that criteria. for some reason the "MILF" label has been given to far too many women because of the meaning and word "mother." well, to me some 19 yr old little skank who decided to get impregnated doesn't constitute a mother in the slightest bit. just ask her baby's daddy.
put Tiffany Mynx and Jewel DeNyle in a movie with that title and you'll have porn freaks stabbing each other to get a copy of the movie!
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Posted - Nov 1 2005 : 11:35PM
Yeah, maybe not. The "MILF" concept has come to be (rightly or wrongly) allied with the concept of mid/late-30s or older women, be they mothers or not. That's just the way culture has evolved, my friend. Yes, an 18-y/o could potentially be a "mother" who I'd like to fuck, but that misses the point entirely.
Some of my personal favorites: Saskia Vicky Vette Regan Starr Nina Hartley Envy Lexi Lamour (may be a biy young on the scale but damn she is hot) Lezley Zen Stacey Fillmore
Funny -- I started this thread to express my feeling that the whole MILF thing is an annoying crock of shit. Instead, I seem to have sparked a debate about what does or doesn't constitute MILF-ness.
To refer to a sexy woman who's no longer "a girl" as "a mother" is degrading both to femininity and to motherhood. Femininity and motherhood don't have any more to do with each other than masculinity and fatherhood do.
The few videos labeled MILF on it contain the fetish where a older women usually married; seduces a younger guy that like under 18 but is really legal age.
It the has both the reverse role and power play - that guys dream about! Having a gal seduce him.
It really quite a turn on; when the women is your best friend mom; girlfriend, boss, etc...
That my view of it; in short; it involves the lady being a seductress of the guy and she also is related somehow to another person you know quite well!
I'm happy with MILF or MILTF, it helps me understand that the intended concept is the female lead is older than the standard young girls of porn. I rarely find the female lead is young and is depicted to have a small child why she is labelled a 'Milf'. To make it clearer, a 'milf' female lead should be over 30, preferably. Older women just seem to be as sexy as, if not sexier than, the younger females. Maybe because seeing a female perform with good looks and a nice shapely body at 30 or 40+ is a big achievement with me. Someone said it's like fine wine. That works with me.
In Canada they call MILFs "Cougars". There are personals asking "Where sre the good Cougar bars?" They're talking about MILFs on the make, those women you meet in hotel bars looking for younger guys.(God bless them, everyone)
Here here for "grown assed women!" Been hot for girls, then women "more experienced than me" since I was quite young. See, I was a cute kid and got a lot of attention from all the older neighborhood girls and my mother's friends. That experience of being happy and playful with "older" girls and women pretty much became standard for me. Yeah, I'm a big fan of the idea of wanting to fuck a hot mommy who needs a good fuck from a younger man.
The acronym MILF to me has always been a comedic tag word. You hear the word MILF and instantly you smile, chuckle or laugh at the silly sound and suggested image. Many of my women friends love saying the word MILF cuz it's safe and funny and dirty all at the same time. Bring up the subject of MILF's in mixed company and you're in for a good time.
However porndom has abused it's meaning to exploit a new market niche, well yeah, that's what porndom does. And that's what public BB's like this one are for - to help define and stratify standards, needs and preferences. And to rant. And talk about hottie MILF's.[:P)]
When I think "MILF", I think women in their 30's or 40's. It doesn't matter to me whether 18 or 19 year olds could technically qualify as "MILF's" I've always had the image of grown-up, mature ladies with awesome asses
I've been reviewing a few MILF videos of late and my big problem with them is the fact that many of these titles really don't point out the "mother" aspect. They simply use women who are look old enough to not get carded for booze and then just refer to them as "moms" on the box and in the title.
A good example of this is the "I Wanna Cum Inside Your Mom 2" video, where you had two scenes with a mom banging her daughter's boyfriend, and one with a mom banging her son's teacher. Here the "mother" theme is established. But then in "I Wanna Cum Inside Your Mom 3", there is no such story established at the start of the scenes. It's just older women having sex.
Look, if you want to ride the MILF craze then that's fine... just establish the "Mother" part somewhere in the scene. Otherwise market it as featuring "older women" or "mature women" or just "women".
An unfortunate side-effect of the "MILF trend" has been an even greater influx (if such is conceivable) of fake boobs into the known porniverse. Real women + real boobs -- PLEASE!
My definition: MILF = Your "friend's mom". Meaning that "you" need to be old enough to be sexually attracted to your friend's mother (for this occasion your friend is the same age as "you"). That means any woman old enough to have a child around age 13-18. In most cases that excludes girls who are 25 or 30. We are talking around 33-35 and upwards for the fantasy to work.
Well I think that was all the term was supposed to mean. The concept always seems pretty simple and straight-forward to me. Unfortunately it's a term that porn simply can't really cater to, so you get all these bogus films that capitalize on the newly-found phenomenon. The term is/was strictly about what JohnW said. A young guy who friend's mom looked so hot that he wanted to fuck her. In porn though, most male performers are simply too old, look too old, or the female performers are generally too young to ever do it justice.
I like the comment made earlier that a MILF should be old enough to have a kid in college (that would make her 36-40). I think the person should be old enough to pass for a mother of a grown-up child yet still be attractive (Julia Ann and Kimi Lixx are examples). I don't get producers that think they can cast a 30 year old woman as a MILF!
I totally agree these terms are thrown around too easily. I think a Cougar is a woman who is about 35 to 40 plus who is still in good shape and a pinup style beauty like the beautiful and fit Julia Ann and can compete with the younger ladies. The MILF term I think gets its origin from real life women because by definition a porn star is a beautiful woman, so calling a porn star a MILF (Mom Id Like To Fuck) is kinda obvious. So I think a MILF is more a non pinup style beauty who has that little something different that turns you on which could be a fuller figure, big boobs, big butt etc but also remind you of woman you have had in your life like neighbours, teachers and of course friends moms who for me never looked or look liked porn stars.
Go to Adam and Eve's site and see from their (limited) catalog just how pervasive this MILF phenomenon is. they have almost 200 titles far and away more than any other niche genre. WTF? I don't get it. As someone in their 40s why would I want to fantasize about women my own age? :-) Who does this genre appeal to? Infantalized 18 year old men? It's like porno affirmative action. i don't care to see Ginger Lynn with crow's feet and swelled body. I want to remember here when she was fresh and sleek back in the 80s. Too many stretch marks, fake tits and ghastly facial reconstruction. Put it next to the granny porn/freaks and quit taking shelf space away from the "age appropriate" genres :-) At my local show (Evanston Wyoming) that section is as big (or bigger0 than the barely legal shelves. No wonder porn sales are in free fall!
These titles are very popular and sell very well, so your argument doesn't really hold up. And if you look at some of the 35+ year olds in porn they look incredible. Vicky Vette and Francesca Le has tighter bodies than a lot of the younger girls that are around.