Jenna Jameson

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To each his own....

JJ

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I´m not Jenna´s biggest fan, but I can only judge her acting by the four titles I´ve seen so far (and one of ´em I actually liked, FLASHPOINT).

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Ohw yeah the video quality is good.

JWNL

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Edited by - JWNL on 5/23/2003 3:14:52 AM

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Are people actually complaining about being given extra options in their DVD these days?

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The little I know about it is that you need a player AND a TV set with P-Scan to enjoy the thing at full capacity.

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Of course it has a ton of options. It is a "my plaything" movie, which is virtual sex, and that is simply the nature of the beast.

Sorry you had so much trouble, but I would recommend that you don't buy any more virtual sex titles in the future.

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A ton of options AND progressive scan stuff?

That´s an OUTRAGE!!!

Enough with this schmancy fancy technology!

Bring back the good old VHS!

<irony mode off>

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Where did it go? I'm almost finished the required courses for a degree in the fast paced world of VCR repair.

Christ! Five years of correspondence courses - down the drain....

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Edited by - outkastfan on 3/4/2004 11:45:05 PM

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Edited by - outkastfan on 3/4/2004 11:45:37 PM

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I guess the way I feel is that I just don't ever like to see another person get bashed b/c of their beliefs and opinions. And then on top of that astroknight more or less told him to leave. I just don't think anyone needs to get pushed around like that. Take care!

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JWNL

Edited by - JWNL on 5/23/2003 3:15:53 AM

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I happen to know what interlacing is, but your explanation was clear enough even for those who don´t know the technical lingo. Excellent stuff, my friend!

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T Mac - if you have a problem with the way the forum is moderated then email the moderator or myself. I've said this many times and it's in the FAQ.

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If you have further problems with me, please don't clutter the forums with them. My e-mail is easy enough to find.

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Jenna is longtime member here and deserves more respect. She's also a lot of fun and has never been mean to anyone, but inevitably someone will start in with their same old negative crapola, and we get tired of it. Astro's never kissed anyone's butt, just ask Jenna ;-O

A virtual sex dvd is a lot different than a Red Light District or Anabolic title, so it came off as kind of a personal attack and made about as much sense as Mr. Lawyer's (banned user)rantings. *cough*

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Actually, there's a little bit of confusing of some terms here.... The only way progressive scan even comes into play is on an anamorphically encoded DVD (which implies that it must be widescreen). The disc itself can't be "progressive scan"... that's handled entirely by the hardware. To get any benefit from a progressive scan player, you need a TV/monitor that will support it -- i.e. a 16:9 aspect ratio (aka widescreen).... even if you have a progressive scan player, you won't see any actual difference on a regular 4:3 (square) TV... (unless there is a 16:9 squeeze mode - which adds the extra lines of resolution, but compresses it into the same visible space of a widescreen image on the TV...)

...we now return to lurk mode.... :)

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Edited by - outkastfan on 3/4/2004 11:46:30 PM

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This product is our highest quality disc to date. We have to deal with the limitations of DVD, as does mainstream Hollywood, but the better the source material, the better the end result. It's like shooting 35 mm film and transferring to VHS for home delivery, it's far superior to acquiring in VHS and then mastering to VHS.

When a home based HD delivery system becomes available (HD-DVD?) we'll release products specifically designed for it. That is still a ways off but when it happens the clarity and resolution it offers will take the virtual experience to new heights. There is currently JVC's Digital VHS which offers HD home playback, but it's tape based and wouldn't be compatible with the random access needs of the Plaything series, not to mention, do you know anyone who has one? Carmen Luvana's upcoming Plaything was also shot in High Definition.

Quinn Roberts
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Some of this probably comes from the fact the Film based material (and more recently HD 24p material) is a progressive source and video is inherently an interlaced source.

Either way, the video is stored on the DVD in an interlaced format. The DVD player converts is to progressive. But since a film source is inherently progressive in the first place, the DVD player is putting together two fields that initially created a single frame (this is basically known as re-interleaving). Since video started off interlaced, it really can't interleaf two successive fields because they are not relly two halves of a single frame. What a progressive scan DVD player will do in this case is to "line double". Essentially, so each line of a single field is repeated twice to form a frame.

This still looks good, but not as good as if the source was initially progressive.

I can only imagine that the confusion about only anamorphic DVD's looking good in progressive comes from the fact that most film based (progressive) sources currently on DVD are Hollywood movies. Most of these movies are also anamorphic. So, I can only guess that someone put together the fact that most film based DVD's are also anamorphic and determined that the combination of these conditions are required for progressive scan to look good.

It comes down to this:

Assuming the same 480p capable TV (with no internal line doubler):

A progressive source (film or HD video) will look better on a progressive scan dvd player than an interlaced source(standard video) will.

An interlaced source will look better on a progressive scan DVD player than a progressive source displayed interlaced will.

A widescreen movie will look better on a widescreeen TV (or a 4:3 TV with "anamporphic squeeze") is that DVD is anamorphic. (this is completely separate from progressive vs interlaced).

A 4:3 movie will never be anamorphic and will look just as good as an anamorphic widescreen DVD will (once again with no regard to progressiv or interlaced)

For more information, I would suggest reading the Progressive Scan sections of the official DVD FAQ (1.40) and the DVD Benchmark series at Secrets of Home Theater and High Fidelity

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Edited by - outkastfan on 3/4/2004 11:47:13 PM

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Edited by - outkastfan on 3/4/2004 11:47:37 PM

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You should give Jenna a shot in your progressive player, while we didn't encode the product with that in mind, the original footage IS progressive, as if it was shot on film. (24P, 24 frames per second progressive) A 3:2 pulldown was introduced at the time of editing and encoding, the same process film goes through when transferred to video.

If the DVD player can remove the pulldown you may see the benefit. Keep in mind, the product was edited at 60i, meaning dissolves and certain video effects contain interlacing. I need to research more myself, but I think at the time of encoding certain flags need to be set to tell the DVD player which frames are progressive. In all honestly, this product would probably not be the best example of progressive scanning due to its limited camera movement and motion within the frame.

Quinn Roberts
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One of the paragraphs in the DVDFAQ starts with "There's enormous confusion about whether DVD video is progressive or interlaced." That's absolutely true.

If you're someone who likes to know this kind of stuff, both of the sites that I linked to above are pretty good ones to bookmark.

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Edited by - outkastfan on 3/4/2004 11:48:16 PM

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