p.s. so I can wait till September before I clean house?
(Hmmm... interesting timing. Is AShcroft trying to pull a fast one just before the elections? Maybe somebody should start a thread on this in World News & Nonsense.)



Pete Zaface said:
"I'd be crazy to kick Monica Sweetheart or Serena South out of my bed because they had tattoos -- oh how I wish I had that opportunity!"

Edited by - Walter Burns on 7/12/2004 2:51:09 PM

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Edited by - cv on 7/12/2004 3:06:57 PM

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I would like to know: do we also have to change our avatars??

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- Saki [faqs]

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In fact strictly speaking a boxer putting his mouthguard in wouldn't be allowed (if I read the above correctly)

SNP.

Edited by - Sir Noel Plum on 7/15/2004 1:50:39 PM

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What say you ?

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sir noel - no sex acts is all we're told. seemingly someone sucking a dildo is a sex act. please don't make me choose every word in the image policy perfectly. obviously someone putting in a mouthgard and someone shoving a baseball bat up their ass are not the same.

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God knows I love posting nasty pics in the forums as much as the next person, but look on the positive side (something I rarely do, btw) - it can add an element of tease, and leaves something to the imagination.

Steph is probably getting tired of these questions, but I don't want any trouble. Would a lap dance be considered a sex act?

If I were the guy's wife I might consider it a sex act, but that's beside the point

Thanks!

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this legislation is a joke.

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Edited by - john pype on 7/17/2004 4:33:25 AM

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by "no gapes" i mean those pictures of big red gaping assholes. the nudes a poppin shots are rarely gapes - mainly they're just spread cheeks.

other sites outside the US will not have to comply. and plenty of webmasters and hosting companies are unaware of what's going on. plus IDs can still be done without penetration shots.

the law is plain and simple an attempt to make it harder to run a porn business. the doj wants to get rid of as much internet porn as possible. it gives them a legal means to go after companies they want to prosecute. it'll be about as succesful as the war on drugs.

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Now if the screens had a blur over the penetration or "action", would that be allowed?

And I want to add, this webmaster is feeling the shitty effects these "rules" are brining out... When I do my reviews I typically do screens and imbed them in the text.

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the religous right shouldn't be this deep in my life

vote these nuts out of office come Nov

Edited by - big lu on 7/21/2004 2:18:29 AM

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so far alot of other crap like that has already been passed and the Democrats probably wont reverse any of it but getting Ashcroft out of there would definately prevent any further damage from happening

the latest thing right now is he's going before Congress trying to convince them why a law must be passed to elimanate softcore sex on cable and ban "offensive" sex themed shows on HBO.

Now I know that the Democrats have there own people to worry about who are into censorship but you have to admit that this guy is out of control.

Edited by - big lu on 7/20/2004 9:08:24 PM

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Speaking of images, you need to reduce the size of your avatar. It's too large.

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thanx

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I get the feeling I"m about to buy a few new DVds.

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Your avatar is okay. Avatar's were supposed to be R rated anyway so the new rules would not have applied as long as you met the original avatar rules. If you avatar had not, you would have been asked to change it long ago.

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However, the definitions are vague (perhaps intentionally so) when it comes to web sites. How does one distinguish between an online store that sells videos/DVDs and offers screenshots or boxcovers from a TGP site? From a review site? From ADT? From a pay site that requires payment to see explicit images? One would think that the intent of the law is the latter, but again, it's not clear.

Given the uncertainty, I would guess that some stores will choose not to offer the service rather than have to maintain a huge number of records or risk a surprise visit from the government.

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I'm not talking about the DVD itself , but the box with the DVD.

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Any perceived "rarity" or value in a disc based on packaging is just that...a perception. I don't see much of a secondary market for porn packaging or memorabilia. So just because one release will have a HC back and the next will not, won't mean that the HC will be "worth more" since 99.9% of the people buying the disc are buying it for the content.

Now, if the content on the disc was forced to change, then the OOP version might be worth more to some people. But given the really, really small runs of adult DVDs in general (a minute fraction of mainstream runs) and the difficulty for some retailers to sell all of their inventory as it is, unless the content is illegal or completely out of print, there doesn't seem to be a premium demand for anything in porn.

Bottom line, if it make you happy to have a hardcore box, then buy it. But if you think you're going to make a buck off of it, then I've got some other investments that you might be interested in too.

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Edited by - saki on 8/8/2004 11:04:29 PM

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It's probably managable for smaller companies, but I can only imagine how it might impact a large company like LFP or Vivid, who not only has substantial video operations but also derivative web sites that have tens of thousands of images, each which will require individual copies of records with cross-referencing.

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I think you missed my original point .

Some buyers/fans do have an affinity for an "old school style" of product. This law is not a big deal, but those buyers/sellers that can benefit from the curve (through overlooked info) either can own rare DVDs/videos or just cut into a new market.

Sometimes a small new law can precede a big law. Porno is changing all the time, but it can't be suppressed at a dramatic level. So those that see the curve or benefit from the curve will be less disappointed with any new changes or new laws.

Right now if production companies in the Valley (or Calif) could collaborate or even create a new formula that focuses on a European Style with the goal of satisfying the horny American buyer ... can be ahead of the curve and dig into somebody elses market.

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Within the next 30 the entire site will have every image removed that depicts actual humans involved in actual sexual contact.

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To be honest I think I'm going to have to remove the ability to post images in the forum. It's the only 100% surefire way to be safe.

I'm also most likely going to suspend the my.adultdvdtalk.com hosting space and remove all of the content from our servers.

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-T.C.

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What if the server was located in Canada?

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The rules are fairly clear in that if the original image(s) were taken when performers were having sex then records must be kept.

However, there are some things that I still need clarification on and may need to consult an attorney with experience in this area.

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