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Idlewild66
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Posted - May 24 2013 : 2:42PM
I know its just porn, but anyone else think this scene is a bit much..
Pornfidelity Scene w. Skin Diamond
Edited by - Idlewild66 on May 24 2013
ninja1
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Posted - May 24 2013 : 2:55PM
It does seem over the line.
But very impressive, technically. If all porn were this well-made I'd be spending lots more money on porn.
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Posted - May 24 2013 : 3:11PM
Actually days ago after filming that Skin said in her twitter she liked it.
Skin already worked for that site always in very rough scenes
EDIT
No she was talking about an electroslut live session for kink, my mistake
Edited by - LCF on 5/24/2013 3:18:15 PM
Harri Patel
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Posted - May 24 2013 : 4:14PM
Looks more like some spaghetti western take on a porn scene than something racist or otherwise objectionable.
ninja1
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Posted - May 24 2013 : 4:44PM
Many viewers will associate the leg shackles and whipping with slavery, regardless of the western theme.
 
Quorrl
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Posted - May 24 2013 : 4:44PM

Possibly. At least its theme of (sexual) exploitation of power over s.o. touches that.
But sometimes good or great porn cannot be in "good taste" at the same time.
oralperv
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Posted - May 24 2013 : 4:46PM
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Djang-Ho Unchained ?
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LCF All-Star Supporter
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Posted - May 24 2013 : 4:58PM
They are also regular tools along with handcuffs in BDSM regardless the race and she very often plays the bottom when shooting for kink, this has nothing to do with slavery
Idlewild66
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Posted - May 24 2013 : 5:10PM
suprised no one mentioned the "rape" element.
pat362
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Posted - May 24 2013 : 5:38PM
Isn't there suppose to be some kind of spoof of Django in the works? That would be a great title for it. Now back to the OP's question. The first thing that I thought of when I saw the scene was that The Madison's had seen Django and that's where they got their inspiration. It is a little intense but a few of their more recent videos have been a little on the intense. Not sure if they are trying something new. At least they are trying to do some actual scenario porn. Mind you I don't know if I would have picked a slavery themed one but at least Skin comes out on top in this one
InFamous
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Posted - May 24 2013 : 7:17PM
Maybe you can ask Skin on this because she posted here, it nothing new because black girls do those ghetto gagger or cum banger scene. Same with the white girl who do those Interracial Blowbang or those Cuckold scenes.
Mr Right
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Posted - May 24 2013 : 7:28PM
Really? If you had bothered to check their website, you would have read this:
Winning internet debates is my favourite pastime
Edited by - Mr Right on 5/24/2013 7:29:22 PM
2bollocks
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Posted - May 24 2013 : 7:32PM
Obvious racial slavery implication is obvious. How can that possibly be denied. She looks hot as hell there though but I won't be watching it.
Idlewild66
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Posted - May 24 2013 : 9:19PM
you can't be serious..
Harri Patel
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Posted - May 24 2013 : 9:49PM
Look up "racist" in the dictionary -- a real dictionary, not some bullshit website thing where anyone can submit a definition -- and then explain to me how a sexual fantasy set in a historical time in which slavery existed is necessarily racist. Or point out which specific elements in that trailer promote or embody racist thought.
 
a9nostic
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Posted - May 24 2013 : 10:29PM
Are you kidding? If they weren't going for the slavery angle, someone, anyone, before the editing phase would have said "WTF, this looks like slavery... we should change it" This shit was done on purpose, without a doubt.
But then again. that's too strong/juicy a taboo to let go; I guess I can forgive it because I'm a perve. Skin Diamond is not my type, but damn she looked hot.
BradfordS
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Posted - May 24 2013 : 11:28PM
No, I think it's just porn. Pornstars are always down to degrade themselves. It's just the nature of the industry. At least they're doing something interesting, although it's not really my thing.
JackSparrow
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Posted - May 25 2013 : 2:20AM
Looks for me like he had steal some ideas from Django Unchained.
Cody McLarge
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Posted - May 25 2013 : 5:30AM
Yeah, ridin' the Django bandwagon, that is all. I'm sure Skin Diamond was down for it so "racist", racial, what have you, it's certainly intentional and if you don't like it, don't watch it.
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Posted - May 25 2013 : 8:51AM
Have any of you ever seen Liliana Cavani's Il Portiere di Notte (The Night Porter)? starred Dirk Bogarde and Charlotte Rampling.
It depicts a surviving Jew from a Lager and a former SS hidden as a Porter at a hotel she knew of old because he was with her guarding the prisoners at the very same lager
The whole film is based on their sexual relation a BDSM relation in which the man dominates her , recreating an Aryan topping a Jew situation.
Seem to me that this is almost the same , I mean could a black woman have a BDSM submitting fantasy?
I don't think this promotes slavery or apartheid in any way it is just a mutual fantasy working on both end and it is just a fantasy
I mean it is the same as a rape fantasy or even a gang rape fantasy, it is said that many women have rape fantasies yet, I'm sure, none of them would ever like to be the victim of an actual rape.
Porn depicts fantasies either for the man and the woman
Edited by - LCF on 5/25/2013 9:13:02 AM
InFamous
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Posted - May 25 2013 : 12:47PM
If it's ok for a slavery scenes why can't porn director do an scene with KKK members with white hood on or guy wear nazi symbol. Cum Banger they got a much of white guys wearing confederate flag on there shirt and popping there load on an black girl.
Edited by - Infamous on 5/25/2013 12:55:11 PM
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Posted - May 25 2013 : 2:05PM
^
I'm sure you don't know the extent of our issues here in Europe when it comes to nazis.
That movie depictiong a woman who willingly played as a lager victim with a former SS is far worse in our sensitivity than any porn could be
Draxxx
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Posted - May 25 2013 : 8:13PM
I'm a black man and I thought that clip was great. First off on a technical level I think they did a great job with costumes, location, lighting, acting, and tone. I'd never expect that from a PORN FIDELITY production. I'm not knocking their previous work but this takes it up several levels. I want to like Kelly and Ryan's stuff better than I usually do but there's a certain "same-ness" for lack of a better word that keeps me away from their stuff. If the rest of the movie is shot as well as this and as interesting I might end up buying this.
Secondly, and perhaps most important...how is showing a recreation of Amercia's racist past make the people who did it automatically a "bit racist"? They chose to set their vingette in a time where that sort of thing actually happened on a regular basis. "Bad taste"? Why? Because it's a black woman and the era of slavery is shown? Is the stuff KINK.COM does in present time with white women somehow in better taste?
As a black man I'm incredibly happy that this country is at a point where people are generally more sensitive about how black people are portrayed and treated...but sometimes that sensitity goes overboard.
His Dudeness
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Posted - May 25 2013 : 8:36PM
It's easy. If you feel it's racist, don't watch it. You don't have to ruin it for others. If she willing did the video who cares? The preview was hot! Get my belt!
Edited by - His Dudeness on 5/25/2013 8:40:29 PM
jizzyjay
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Posted - May 26 2013 : 1:24AM
As a Black Man the only problem I had with it was it was kelly Madison husband.I'd be curious to find out who's more offended by it,White or Black board members.By the way this is nothing new in porn.The Dark Brothers did a scene with 2 guys dress like KKK members D Ping a Black chic I believe it was either Sahara or Jeannie Pepper.
 
stochie
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Posted - May 26 2013 : 3:44AM
'New Pornfidelity scene a bit racist? bad taste?'
No... just good porn!
SxDoctor
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Posted - May 26 2013 : 5:01AM
It's ok to enjoy something that's a bit racist. Just don't try to pretend it isn't racist.
Harri Patel
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Posted - May 26 2013 : 9:26PM
If you can't explain why you think it constitutes racism, then don't try to pretend that you're doing anything other than using "racist" as a fuzzy catch-all term of disapproval, like how many right-wingers throw around words like "entitled" and "elites."
bootymeister
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Posted - May 26 2013 : 11:39PM

It's obviously racist.

realtip
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Posted - May 27 2013 : 12:45AM
^Even if it is, so what? I am so tired of this whole attitude that porn isn't supposed to be controversial, or possibly offend anybody. Where the fuck did this line of thinking come from? Whatever happened to the days when porn offended people, and didn't give a fuck? I want those days back again. This whole attitude that porn now has to be clean, tame, PC, and unoffensive is probably my biggest pet peeve about the porn industry. I've never seen porn so boring as the stuff that's being released now.
But when was this? I haven't seen it, and am not familiar with it. But I'm willing to bet that this movie was probably not released within the last ten or fifteen years. You'd have an impossible task trying to find anyone willing to shoot or release a scene like this now in today's antiseptic PC porn industry.
CummingLinguist All-Star Supporter
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Posted - May 27 2013 : 9:00AM
Is Whore's Chores with Tessa Lane sexist?
(Some think all porn is sexist, but does this go over the line?)
whatsatelephonebill
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Posted - May 27 2013 : 10:14AM
There's a difference between being racial and being racist. This scene is obviously made to be set in a time period where slavery did exist. If they had taken the exact same setup and put it in a modern day setting, then you might have something (but honestly, probably not). Just because something deals with race doesn't make it racist.
jizzyjay
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Posted - May 27 2013 : 10:31AM
The Dark Bros video was release in 1985.The video was called Let me tell ya bout Black Chicks.Follow up to Let me tell ya' bout White chicks.Also the same could be said about Blazzing Saddle,that movie could not be made today with all the political correctness.
bootymeister
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Posted - May 27 2013 : 12:14PM
Apparently, you did not see it. The movie was obviously satirical and tongue-in-cheek. Nothing, not even the costuming, was any bit realistic. It was more light hearted than the 'Cum Bang' series of today and nothing compared to the use of the 'N word' in today's flicks.

To be politically correct today, one must not mention racism unless there is proof. You seem to be politically correct but wrong.

Perv Griffin
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Posted - May 28 2013 : 10:39PM
We can debate the racism factor all day. I just don't find choking, whipping and branding a woman a turn on...but that's just me I guess.
 
jizzyjay
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Posted - May 28 2013 : 11:06PM
^Aparently I did see it how else would I know about it.Don't presume you know what I did and didn't see.I havn't watch it for a long time but I remember the scene quite well.Jeannie Pepper also had a D.P. scene in the video also.
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Posted - May 29 2013 : 3:08AM
^^ It's not just you, Perv Griffin. Nothing in there that appeals to me, but they are free to make it.
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Posted - May 29 2013 : 12:03PM
guess it would be like porn doing a parody of ariel castro banging 3 woman in his basement, for people who took offense you could say "dont watch it"
WardqueenJanine
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Posted - May 29 2013 : 3:08PM
Racist? Not really but like most everything on Pornfidelity, I don't care for it.
Perv Griffin
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Posted - May 29 2013 : 11:32PM
^ Jacco, great minds think alike.
zambi
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Posted - May 30 2013 : 5:34PM
I hope they have deep pockets like Kink.com in order to fight off potential obscenity trial.
Kink.com is careful to shoot consensual BDSM scenes and not rape themed scenes which even
liberal California might frown upon.
realtip
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Posted - May 31 2013 : 2:52AM
From reading this thread, it's obvious that some people take this shit way too seriously, and should not be watching porn. Why is this even a discussion?
Idlewild66
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Posted - May 31 2013 : 10:24AM
because more than one person wanted to talk about it. *rolls eyes*
Edited by - Idlewild66 on 5/31/2013 10:20:50 PM
zambi
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Posted - May 31 2013 : 9:39PM
You got me all wrong buddy. I don't have a problem with this scene. I think its definitely got artistic and erotic value and its really well shot. And I think it is nowhere near as offensive as content Max Hardcore and Khan Tusion produced. I'm just saying that based on decades of adult film history and legal precedent they are inviting trouble. They are not the first company to try shooting rape themed adult movies which always end up in court and always ends up losing a jury trial in court because no jury wants to be seen condoning rape in any form. All they need to do is get a jury full of women, and because its a rape them even the most liberal jury will rule against them.
So get a copy of it while you still can. ;-)
bootymeister
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Posted - Jun 1 2013 : 10:27AM
Pornfidelity is marketing the scene as white supremacy.

Foolish
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Posted - Jun 5 2013 : 4:28PM
Clearly racist but more so bad taste. Disappointing really.
Dubious_Leftovers
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Posted - Jun 5 2013 : 7:11PM
Hmm... Pornography: a sub-genre of entertainment, that over the years has brought us such ultra-PC titles such as:
Oh No! There Is a Negro in My Mom
Slant Eye for the Straight Guy
Slant Eyed Sluts
Whitezillia Is Bigga Than a Nigga
Bang That Black Bitch, White Boy
Abominable Black Man

...is suddenly, in 2013, brought into question for being "a bit racist"...
Who'da thought???
Prototype5588
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Posted - Jun 5 2013 : 9:31PM
Haha... those were my thoughts exactly when I read this post.
zambi
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Posted - Jun 15 2013 : 1:57AM
FYI at the end of the scene Skin Diamond chokes the guy to death with his belt
then squats over his dead body and either pisses on him or ejects his cream pie
on his face.
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Posted - Jun 16 2013 : 4:48AM
I didn't see the scene, but apparently that was necessary to the plot , Skin said she took revenge in the scene and killed him, the first part just provided a reason
greg spader
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Posted - Jun 16 2013 : 9:30AM

All I know is Skin is, to me, the hottest performer in porn today and one of the very best ever. She's gorgeous, incredibly sexy and has a great hard edge to her performances....great combination of pretty and nasty. She looks hot in this scene and that's what matters to me. I say give her the benfit of the doubt; she seems like a cool, mature person. I'm sure she wouldn't have done it, if she didn't want to.
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