"Pornography: That which excites, whether from approval or disapproval." ~ Leonard Rossite 2342 Posts 12/17
Posted - Aug 14 2023 : 1:49AM
Pretty much everyone I mentioned has 2-5 credits in film and television - breaking out of the box is one thing, being able to follow that success is another. So with all due respect to your opinion, when she has two or more mainstream movies or acting credits to her name - I will happily tip my hat to you. Heck even Kayden Kross has bonafide mainstream career being involved in at least 5 movies according to Wikipedia. Being a mainstream success means not just getting noticed but getting repeat jobs: no-one becomes a pornstar or a musical icon after making one scene or one song/album, you become a star when you get offered new projects or when people can't get enough of your music and are dying for the next album to drop. Plus I can almost guarantee that if an adult performer wants to become a nurse or doctor or an accountant, most companies over there won't refuse to consider you simply on account of your porn past. That is why I say doors open, we find out you were a pornstar here and often that is when you get the boot or the job is no longer offered to you.
Edited by - Whyspers2Scorpio on 8/14/2023 1:50:11 AM
I can't talk about other countries, but as for Italy it's plenty of porn actors who had massive and ongoing mainstream success way more than Cherry and Sasha Grey, eg. Cicciolina, Moana Pozzi, Eva Henger, Rocco Siffredi, or more recently Valentina Nappi. In Italy these names are known to virtually everyone, while I doubt many people outside porn consumers and diehard Euphoria fans have never heard about Cherry. Even lesser known actors like Martina Smeraldi, Malena or Dellai twins get their piece of mainstream celebrity, eg. appearing in variety/talk shows on major TV and radio stations and being regularly covered in newspapers, magazines and news and entertainment websites.
As a Wikipedian, in the recent past I tried to create articles about two of my favorite porn actresses, Kristina Rose and Elsa Jean herself, and you need some significant coverage in reputable mainstream sources to create articles there. After a thorough search, the result was basically zero coverage, despite the fact that these are two of the biggest names of the last couple of decades in the biggest porn industry of the world. All this when in a few minutes I can easily find enough coverage to create an article about a mid-level Italian or French porn performer.
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culo_lover Deactivated User
110 Posts 8/23
Posted - Sep 6 2023 : 4:37AM
^ Do you think it is due to European countries having less stigma against Porn actresses or the competition in the US is higher? I mean even non porn girls in the US struggle for fame.
^ I think there is less stigma and in general less conservatorism.
If it was just a matter of competition, at least genuine porn icons and legit number ones in the industry for years like Tori Black would receive mainstream attention. If she was Italian, she would had received continuous news coverage and I'm 100% sure she would become a mainstream star, and not necessarily abandoning porn. American media do not really cover porn actors, except when they become some sort of "gossippy attraction of the day" ("university student turned pornstar!!" "Lebanese-American porn actress causes a stir performing in hijab!!"), and they are often used to attack the industry and write moralistic articles. As opposed to that, in the US even the most scrappy youtubers, twitchers, and tiktokers have tons of media exposure (again, as a Wikipedian I tried to remove from the encyclopedia a few of these influencers and social media attractions, but failed, as they actually have plenty of news coverage).
In Europe (or in Japan) if you are a well known name in porn it is not unusual appearing in prime-time shows or being featured in news articles. Eg. in Italy Eva Henger hosted a family program in access prime time on the main private TV channel (Canale 5), and with zero controversities. I don't see things like these happening in the US.
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culo_lover Deactivated User
110 Posts 8/23
Posted - Sep 6 2023 : 9:06AM
^ I think you have a point. Europe is more open to nudity and porn than the US, you can see this even in mainstream movies since the 60s, especially in Denmark, Sweden, and Germany. But I still believe there are other factors. Like in liberal states like California, Pornstars are not getting mainstream coverage, even in local media, while some of them featured in some university lectures like Dana Dearmond (2007), in a sexology and sociology course. I believe competition and other factors might be causing this.
Apologies for resurrecting and old topic, but I was listening to Elsa's interview with Holly Randall where Elsa mentioned a B/G/G/G scene she shot. Apparently it didn't go well and Elsa and Holly had quite a chuckle at it. The studio or other performers weren't identified and with IAFD listing Elsa as having over 800 scenes it would be an onerous task to go through them all to look for any B/G/G/G scenes. Data 18 only lists one foursome scene and it's a B/B/G/G on one of the Vixen sites.
It's possible it was never released.
Does anyone remember a scene with Elsa, two other women and a guy?
I used to watch porn. I still do but I used to, too. 1506 Posts 8/09
Posted - Oct 30 2025 : 2:49PM
One comes to mind where she did a scene in a sauna with Alaina Dawson, Piper Perri and some guy. I think it was for Brazzers. Hot scene if I remember right.
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JonECage Deactivated User
699 Posts 6/19
Posted - Oct 30 2025 : 2:59PM
i looked this up out of curiosity when the pod first aired im pretty sure shes talking abt her first b/g/g/g for naughtyamerica
Thanks to all who responded. I have most of these in my collection so I'll run through them. Jon, since you've already done some sleuthing on this mystery, I'll start with the Naughty America scene. I appreciate the input.
I used to watch porn. I still do but I used to, too. 1506 Posts 8/09
Posted - Dec 6 2025 : 6:31PM
^It more than likely will never see the light of day. Long story short, one of the performers had sex with her and hadn't been tested. She got sick and it led to her retiring. She was pretty much leaving anyway but was getting way more hardcore because she wanted to give fans some incredible content. She addressed it on Holly Randall Unfiltered but didn't go into details about the scene. She more than likely did all the typical GB things: anal, DP, airtight, multiple facials, etc. We'll never know.
A comeback would be nice. Also would be nice if she sucked asshole in that comeback. I love watching women rim, and elsa jean is someone I very much enjoy watching rim
I'd be happy if she made a come back and even just did g/g scenes. I would love to see that meaty pussy get sucked and eaten again by likes of Nicolette Shea, Britney Amber, Brandi Love, Cherie DeVille, Romi Rain, Luna Star etc.