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Harry Joystick
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740 Posts
8/02
Posted - Dec 27 2002 : 12:38PM
First I must say that I cannot stand Michael Ninn's movies. But there is a new release from Ninn Worx called "Fetish The Dream Scape" and I'm a fan of Nicole Sheridan.
This title was directed by somone called Laurent Sky. I'm not familiar with this director but what worries me is that it was produced by...Michael Ninn.
My question for those familiar with this title: How much influence did Ninn have in making this flick? Is it just typical slow-motioned, arsty-farsty bullshit like all of Ninn's titles?? Seeing as I'm not a fan of Ninn, should I stay away from this title?

Thanks in advance,
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Goldmember
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518 Posts
7/02
Posted - Dec 27 2002 : 1:04PM
Laurent Sky is supposedly Ninn's protege, so I imagine it will have some "slow-motioned, arsty-farsty bullshit". Personally I don't have a problem with Ninn's style and find it quite enjoyable from time to time. So here is the brilliance of this DVD package, they may have found a way to satisfy us both. As you can see on the back cover image you have posted there is an "Artcore" version & a "Hardcore" version. As I understand it the artcore version is the "arsty-farsty bullshit" version, but the second disc has a hardcore version with a different edit that is meant to appeal to fan of the more straightforward gonzo style sex. I am not 100% sure of this, but that is certainly the impression I have been given.

Personally I can't wait to get my hands on this disc, plus I think they are really on to something over there at Ninn Worx with the dual edits.

Walter Burns
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7564 Posts
11/02
Posted - Dec 27 2002 : 2:17PM

Edited by - Walter Burns on 3/9/2003 4:56:13 PM

Hamilton Steele
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62 Posts
12/02
Posted - Dec 27 2002 : 2:40PM
Michael Ninn makes some very artistic and beautiful movies. To that effect I take my hat off to him and give him credit where it is due. It is obvious that the man is extremely talented. Despite how small my role was, (and how skinny I used to be) it was an honor and privilege to be part of his movie “Perfect”. If Mr. Ninn called me tomorrow to work for him I wouldn’t hesitate to jump at the opportunity. I enjoy being part of any intellectual and high quality endeavor.

But…. (And you knew there would be a “but”)

I question how Michael Ninn’s style of movie making fits into porn. For me, and I am certain most of the porn viewing consumers, I find am unable to jerk off to his videos. When I watch them with Kelly, we don’t end up fucking part way into the movie. In fact when the movie is over we go to sleep. What we do get from it is entertainment of an alternative nature. For us it is something akin to watching an independent or artistic and surreal film. Regardless of how hot the scene is, I don’t get a woody and Kelly is busy making popcorn.

To that extent, in our household when we want to watch porn it is for the reason of “getting off”. We don’t mind a simple plot or basic setup and it shouldn’t over-shadow the fucking.

Kelly and I haven’t seen “Fetish The Dream Scape" and doubt that we ever will. Unless of course, it becomes available in our local Block Buster store. After all, when we go to Block Buster we aren’t looking for a catalyst to sex, just some entertainment.

When it comes to going to the adult video store, we are there to get something that shows hot women acting like trashy whores. And in case if anyone is wondering, Kelly goes straight to the Anal section and looks for anything with Double A.

This is just my two cents worth of an opinion.

Hamilton Steele

Joey Starr
Senior Member

Still wanking after all these years.
8082 Posts
10/00
Posted - Dec 27 2002 : 3:45PM
There is a review of this movie on Adult DVD Reviews.

Edited by - joey starr on 12/27/2002 3:50:35 PM

 
Goldmember
Member

518 Posts
7/02
Posted - Dec 27 2002 : 7:38PM
"For me, and I am certain most of the porn viewing consumers, I find am unable to jerk off to his videos."

I think your making a rather large assumption on behalf of "most of the porn viewing consumers" don't you think. Are you telling me that you think most people can't jerk off oi films by the most highly awarded director in the adult industry?

Edited by - Gold_Member on 12/27/2002 7:38:23 PM

Harry Joystick
Member

740 Posts
8/02
Posted - Dec 27 2002 : 8:44PM
Well...I gotta agree with Hamilton Steele cause that's pretty much the same way I feel towards all of Ninn's movies. This isn't Shakespere, it's fuckin' porn and I just wanna see hot women having sex. If I want to see "art" then I'll go to a museum.
I was hoping to hear that this movie was not shot in Ninn-like fashion. Hey I'm glad I asked though.
Looks like I'll be saving my money.
If we all had the same tastes it would be a boring world to live in wouldn't it?

Thanks for everyone's input,


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Hamilton Steele
Member

62 Posts
12/02
Posted - Dec 27 2002 : 10:25PM
I'm not putting down Mr. Ninn's work and I will be the first one to say I like it. I just don't think modern adult porn is the proper venue for it. In fact I would go as far to say that Michael Ninn's work is wasted and under appreciated in our industry. I watch it to be entertained, not aroused.

As for what I based my previous comment on... I look at how much of the other type of porn is available and sold. With that said, it becomes a simple conclusion to arrive at... A large portion, if not the majority of the porn consumers desire a certain type of stimuli.

I ask this, how many people would rather watch a messy blow job gonzo instead of something that makes you think when all you want is to bust a nut.

Hamilton Steele

aybesea
Senior Member

Caroline Cage - Hungarian Hottie!
1485 Posts
5/02
Posted - Dec 27 2002 : 10:44PM
Well, I for one have never been a huge fan of Ninn. Not because I don't think he's talented... he is. But because I can't get off with edits happening every 5 seconds or so (think MTV). However, I don't believe for a moment that everyone shares this opinion... he's WAY too popular for that.

Anyway, after reading that review that was referenced, I am extremely intrigued by this movie. Maybe, as GM said, this could be a best of both worlds scenario. I certainly hope so. Anyway, if possible I will be checking this one out.

Goldmember
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518 Posts
7/02
Posted - Dec 28 2002 : 11:34AM
Look, I can totally respect that Ninn is not for everybody and will not get everyone off. However I must admit it does bother me when people assume that everyone else must feel the same way about him.

Hamilton Steele, your personal opinion is completely valid, as well as the fact there there are a number of porn fans that can't get off to a Ninn flick. No offense Hamilton, but to suggest that "most" people can't get off to a Ninn film is ridiculous. I would bet you my last dollar, that if you randomly grabed ten guys who walked out of a porn shop, let them choose a scene from "New Wave Hookers 5" 9 of the 10 would have no problem finding something to get themselves off.

How many Ninn films have you actually seen? Do you have any idea just how many titles he has sold? What do you think all of those people are doing when they watch his films if their not getting off?

"I just don't think modern adult porn is the proper venue for it."

What could, possibly be a better venue? Last I checked he was still making porn. I might suggest that there is more than enough room in the porn landscape for a Michael Ninn. You are aware that there is the odd messy blow job in your average Ninn film right?

Sorry for dragging this thread off topic, with my Ninn rants.

SueR
Member

Under a hill of books
262 Posts
12/02
Posted - Dec 29 2002 : 4:34AM
I'd like to insert that many men can jerk off to almost anything. I know for a fact that many men who are not into porn will jack-off on half-naked celebrities in Maxim mag, or to nude scenes in mainstream movies on HBO.

And let's not forget softcore. Who among us has never used nudie mags in our lives? Masturbatory material is vast and varied.

Remi_Charnel
Member

Los Angeles
12 Posts
1/03
Posted - Mar 9 2003 : 9:03PM
I actually talked to Laurent about Fetish and sequel he's currently making. And basically his take on it was that there is more to porn than just jerking off. He's trying to make a film that people just appreciate because its strange and beautiful. Not just something you can jerk off to.

For me watching Fetish was like watching a NIN video, or lookign through a book of art by H.R. Giger. Not so sexual, just a appreciation of... something. Artistry I guess.

R




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