heres another thing to chew on.... maybe we arent into the idea of fucking a guy who has fucked guy or "he/she's", its a turn off! and hey if they have done it once or 1 hex they have the tendancy to be into going that direction, and our tests are only as good as that day we take them for gay and straight performers, but alot of gay performers i know also do privates, and i dont know what the hell they are doing in those meetings... they could be going bare back for an extra 50 bucks and putting them selves at risk and then say i work with them the next day.... not happening for that reason. i have nothing against gay guys nothing at all, i love em hell they are better friends sometimes then chicks. "im the girl your mother warned you about"
I'm the girl your mom warned you about <3 344 Posts 2/09
Posted - Feb 21 2009 : 6:14PM
Yes they do. Not everyone gets along or has chemistry so whether it's a male or female performer, they're entitled to a no list. This is such a downer of a topic...we can't forget about the HELL YES/request lists! C'mon those are the best!
Yeah, and hopefully a lot longer. My only worry with "no" lists, is everything apparently being made so public nowadays. Like I said, it doesn't appear most performers take them too personal. I just worry about these things becoming heated arguments or confrontations if said performers actually find themselves on the same set with different performers.
Patience is a virtue, but who wants to be virtuous? 4283 Posts 4/00
Posted - Feb 23 2009 : 2:46PM
Interesting point. Based on that line of thinking, a person would be more likely to pick me up in a club and fuck me than a black person. I think we all know what a poor line of reasoning that would be. When I used to go dancing at clubs a lot a couple years ago, it was always strange for me when a random guy would hit on me. At what point before walking out of the club would you have a chance to tell someone that you have HIV? So if it was a guy I may have otherwise been interested in, I would just always say that I was with someone that night. If it was someone I wouldn't have been interested in anyway, I'd turn them down in the same way any girl would turn down a guy. To get back on-topic, I understand the point of no lists. For awhile, TT Boy was on my no list, because I had had an experience with him that told me that he wouldn't respect listening to me when I said that certain things were a huge turn-off to me, and I knew that I didn't have the right personality to stand up to him. Eventually, when I got to the point where I knew I could be more vocal, I took him off my no-list. There were a handful of guys on my no-list because I thought they did bad scenes or because I was too unattracted to them. I would hope that no-lists are used somewhat logically, for things like bad chemistry, not liking someone's personality, not being attracted to them, having a reason to believe they're an extra risk than the people not on your no-list. Believe me, I knew Marc Wallice had a history of IV drug use. But I put a lot of trust in the HIV tests, and thought that took away the risk of working with someone who was getting tested regularly. In hindsight, I should have had more people on my no-list. I know that for a lot of guys, porn is about a fantasy in which girls will fuck any random guy. Unfortunately, the real world isn't always an ideal place.
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Posted - Feb 23 2009 : 7:15PM
I had put someone (I won't mention names) on my no list and was told he would't find out, but the next day I go to my shoot and he's there. He spotted me right away and asked if we could have a talk. He wanted to know why I put him on my no list because he had requested me and that's why we were SUPPOSED to work together until I said no. It was a very awkward conversation but we talked it out like adults and now we're cool. I'd prefer if the other person didn't know because it WILL cause drama. It's not meant to be taken as a personal thing but everyone takes it as a personal attack.
this is the kind of ridiculous logic that makes me laugh and laugh. so according to mackenzee pierce the male performers who have done gay and TS porn ON CAMERA are more dangerous than the male performers who do the same gay and TS scenes OFF camera? Seriously? So doing a scene where you can clearly see a condom or an AIM test makes you LESS likely to work with them. Interesting. I love that logic. I would assume you would be MORE scared of the unknown as you stated in your post. And don't be so fucking naive, you and I both know that 75-80 percent of all male performers have done something other than a girl off camera or on camera. You think you are any different? Please.
You can mention names, it was me of course. First of all, I know almost all of the girls who have me on their no list because that way I can head that problem off at the pass, and make sure I am not booked with those girls. Second, I was extremely glad to find out that your problem with me was because you are sticking up for Kelly Kox, which is admirable. I will say it again, did I write a poor review of Kelly Kox's performance with me for Naughty America? yes. Was it deserved? Yes (and if you don't believe me watch the H1on1 scene with her in it). Did I tell her after the scene about her problems doing scenes? yes. I didn't blindside her nor would I, she knew it was coming. Trust me, boys always find out who refuses to work with them. The directors in this business deal with the same guys all the time and develop a relationship with them. Girls come and go in this biz, but the guys remain a constant.
I hope you don't take any offense Tricia, but I have a question. You said you should have had more people on your no list. Do you think that was more important then doing anal scenes or anal creampies? I don't know the type of scene you did with Marc, but for some reason I thought it was an anal creampie scene. And for the record, the fact that I will never get a chance to work with you really really really sucks, and I know I speak for a large number of male performers out there. :) But you already know that. Speaking of that, I have always wondered what the percentages are for people who have been infected with HIV from vaginal sex vs. anal sex. Maybe I am way off base, but I have always thought it was like 10 percent vaginal to 90 percent anal. And in addition to that, what percentage of HIV infections are from receiving anal vs. giving anal and receiving vaginal vs. giving vaginal. Those are numbers I would like to see definitive statistics.
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Posted - Feb 24 2009 : 11:59AM
I'm glad you and I worked things out because if we hadn't talked, you'd still be on my no list. I wasn't trying to talk shit about you, I was just telling my expierence with my no list. Shit happens and I'm over it. The only people that will go on my no list now are people that disrespect me or I don't mesh well together.
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Posted - Feb 24 2009 : 12:00PM
I really am looking forward to the day when more women run porn studios. Go Jenna Haze!
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Posted - Feb 24 2009 : 5:34PM
It takes a lot more than that to offend me. You should know that by now. I don't think having more people on my no list would have been more important in regards to me getting HIV or not. I have admitted that I naively didn't understand the statistics of anal creampies, and that is the reason Evil Angel doesn't distribute them in movies shot after the Darren James cases. However, in my case, I should have paid attention to my instincts and not have worked with a known former drug addict, even with supposed "clean" tests. Besides that, I had no attraction to him whatsoever. So if I had only worked with guys I was sexually attracted to, I also wouldn't have worked with him. Of course, in the pre-Viagra days, that would have meant I wouldn't have worked with half the guys in porn. I would have been working with Tom Byron, Rick Masters and Mr. Marcus a whole lot more though, as they were on my "absolutely, yes please" list. :) Me saying I wish I had put more guys on my no-list is also kind of a hindsight thing. After I stopped performing, it took me a while to realize that I'd never stop missing it. It also made me realize that if I could have gone back, I'd be more picky, and only do the things (or more specifically) the people that I desperately wanted. Luckily, I'm enough of a slut that there would still be a whole lot of porn people for me to fuck. Oh well, enough hypothesizing. Anyway, my vote is for wanting to watch people fuck that actually want to fuck each other. Does that answer the question? :)
^^ Sheep and extra-terrestrials, sure But, do another guy... Edited by - BigBobxxx on 2/26/2009 12:03:21 AM
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Posted - Feb 27 2009 : 4:03PM
You mean you think it's wrong to point out the fact that AA have a higher rate of HIV? Because they do. Stereotype (AKA pattern recognition) isn't really the salient point here... Edit: but it's okay to "stereotype" people who bang trannies? And I should point out, your argument is negated by Crucifixo's argument (see below). You can't both be right. And I don't see how stereotyping people is a greater evil than hiding the risks about HIV infection from people ignorant of the facts. Edited by - john_qyoo_public on 2/27/2009 4:16:25 PM
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Posted - Feb 27 2009 : 4:08PM
I'll explain the math to you: Blacks have much higher HIV infection rates. HIV testing is an imperfect method of screening out HIV positive performers. Ergo, those who are both HIV positive, and missed by screening, are more likely to be black than their proportion of the population in question would suggest. Just arguing with the "ludicrous" part of your statement. It's not ludicrous, it's rational. Probably not the biggest deal in the world, but not "ludicrous" either.
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Posted - Feb 27 2009 : 6:07PM
Math isn't the only factor. Either you believe that the testing measures bring a reasonable level of safety or you don't. That is the bottom line. If you believe that it does a reasonable job of screening out HIV positive performers, then there is no need to discriminate beyond that. I'll explain the math to you. The difference in HIV infection rates in the US by race is insignificant compared to the success rate of the current testing methods. Because if you multiply a really small number by a really big number the really small number doesn't affect the results much. If you don't believe me, try it on a calculator sometime. It really works! My point being, the likelihood of encountering an HIV positive performer that has undergone appropriate industry testing is very remote, regardless of race. So if you believe that there is a significant chance of encountering a black performer with HIV in the industry, then you should also believe that you have a very similar chance (because of the math, y'know) of encountering a white performer with HIV as well. Ergo you either believe that the testing is effective, or you don't. From a math standpoint race is irrelevant. But that isn't the entire story... Those HIV statistics can still help you discriminate. Say you're a woman and you decide to go out to a bar tonight and bang a random stranger. Now those statistics make a little bit of difference. Is your newest conquest black? If he is then there is a slightly higher chance that he is HIV+. Is he African? Well, even better chance that he is HIV+. Does he speak with a Swazi accent? Bingo. Odds just went up again. Is he right of the plane from Swaziland? Jackpot. Better than 1 in 4 that he's HIV+. Of course by deciding to engage in sex with strangers, then you are already increasing the likelihood encountering an HIV+ person anyway. (people that engage in that "risk" behavior have a higher infection rate, that means you as well as your potential random partners) The moral of the story? If you are worried about getting HIV then don't have sex with random strangers, and don't delude yourself into thinking you are making yourself safer by being picky about what race you randomly bang. And if you're going to try and use statistics to prove your point, at least use the right ones. HIV infection rates in the black population of the world is significantly higher than the white/caucasian population of the world. However, here in the US the HIV infection rates are a little higher for blacks vs whites, but it would be a stretch to say they are much higher. http://xkcd.com/54/
you know you get wayyyy to damn sensitive about this. this isnt the first time nor will it be the last that you get your panties in a wad about this whole thing. look to eachthere own, i prefer not to work with guys who currently shoot gay/tranny porn. i cant help if guys have done it in the past... so that being said if i have never worked with a male performer before i look into them, and if they did gay porn years ago or what not i think to myself " ok it was along time ago so i'll suck it up" HOWEVER, christian .... you still do tranny/gay porn so there for i will never work with you... lets just get that out there. you could be the coolest guy ever but that doesnt mean i have to fuck you and you need to stop getting so hurt over girls choosing not to work with you. guys dont work with some girls for there own reasons too and they dont throw lil temper tantrums or become a bitch going through pms! "im the girl your mother warned you about"
typically, not only did you NOT answer the question, but you blathered on about something that I don't care about. Mackenzie, you work maybe 10 times a month if you are lucky. I havent done less than 25 scenes in a month in 4 years. Lets see where you are in a year.
Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son. 1048 Posts 7/04
Posted - Mar 1 2009 : 2:58AM
Christian, I was just wondering something. Since you don't like being on "no" lists because of some of the scenes you do why don't you stop doing the sort of scenes that get you placed on "no" lists? That would pretty much solve the problem right there.
I would like to ask performers. How much other STDs (not HIV) are rampant in industry? Did you have any problems with STDs like chlamidiosis, gonorrhea, Trichomoniasis ...? What do you think about condoms in porn? I would like to see performers healthy, but as viewer, I do not like condoms in porn! Maybe is necessary to make tests more often...!?
I'm the girl your mom warned you about <3 344 Posts 2/09
Posted - Mar 1 2009 : 7:31PM
Chlamydia (sp??) and gonorrhea pop up quite often but it's treatable because it's just bacteria so you go to the doctor and get a shot and/or pills and it's gone in a few days to a week. I haven't had it personally so I don't know how it exactly works but I've known of a few girls that have gotten it. They usually go and get tested after a week and if the test comes back clean, they're back in the game. Other then that, I'm not sure about other diseases because like I said, I've been lucky and am 100% clean =)
see guys this is the reason he does gay porn bc he acts just like a fucking chick... and hell if i was fucking trannies i would work just as much as you too huh? i work on average 3-4 times a week you dumb shit, i live in san diego so i CHOOSE to only work 3 times a week bc i dont live beyond my means, because i go to school, and DONT WANT TO WORK EVERY DAMN DAY! its a choice christian, just like me putting you on my no list, just like you doing nasty fuckin trannies and gay shit.... i was cool with you chit chatting untill you went off and got into your bitch mode like always, taking it too personal that girls like me who care about there health put YOU on there no list. despite the health issue thing, i find it incredibly disgusting, and i couldnt slightly be turned on if working with you, bc you are a regular tranny fucker.... to each there own. get over this petty shit dude, grow some balls like a real ma n would and blow off the fact that some or should i saw most girls dont wanna work with YOU. you gives two shits honestly? you saw you do atleast 25 scenes a month, how many of those are gay/tranny porn? how many of those are privates with a SHE-MALE recording it for ITS own use? hmmm yeah like i said if i were doing the shit you were im sure i would be working alot more. i have been gaining more and more success as i go in this industry, hell im even starting feature dancing with the TOP feature agent because he knows im up and coming, I mean shit i blew him away with my performance last night, he was toked to be adding me to his site and rep'in me.... apparently im not do down and out like you think now am i? "im the girl your mother warned you about"
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Posted - Mar 2 2009 : 12:10AM
You mean guys with tits?
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Keep on trolling. What a bullshit! Im fucking unstoppable now ... 717 Posts 3/06
Posted - Mar 2 2009 : 12:25AM
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Posted - Mar 2 2009 : 12:58AM
Maybe Mackenzie will be out of the business, living in the suburbs, married and expecting a baby. Maybe you'll still be banging more transsexuals than females while claiming not to be gay. To each their own.
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Posted - Mar 2 2009 : 1:16AM
MacKenzee....wow. I don't know where to start. I can understand your feud with Dana DeWhoremond(because she's a worthless cunt), but I think this beef you have with Christian is completely unwarranted. Yes, you have every right to put him and anyone else on your "no" list and you can do so for any reasons you may feel necessary. If his ventures into gay porn rub you the wrong way, then fine, it's your choice. But these attacks on his character and personal preferences are extremely juvenile, not to mention offensive. What the fuck are you talking about when you infer that working with him is putting your health at jeopardy?? For fucks sake, the guy gets tested just like any other performer; I'm no expert but I'm sure working with him is no more risky than working with any other male or female performer in the business. In fact, if I were a female star, I'd be more comfortable working with him than most if not all other talents....I've read his blog pretty thoroughly and not only does his intellect seem rather high, but he also apparently takes exceptionally good physical care of himself. Do you even have two functioning eyeballs in your head, MacKenzee?? Just take one look at the guy and it's pretty obvious that he cares for his body- and he easily has one of the best in the biz. That may be a bit superficial of me to say, but it holds no candle to the egregious judgments you've been flinging around. And you've got a serious set of balls to call what he does "disgusting"....who the fuck do you think you are?? You're a pornstar for fuck's sake. The shit you willingly do is considered extremely repulsive to many- anal, ass-to-mouth, drinking cum, giving dudes rimjobs, fucking unattractive overweight old men, and the list goes on and on and on......reading like a whorehouse laundry list. Yet you have the nerve to sit there on your imaginary throne and say a guy having sex with another guy(or transsexual) is gross?? You're throwing some pretty hefty stones for someone who lives in such a weak glass house. Oh and if I were to have mentioned interracial under the list of so-called nasty things partake in, would you have called me a filthy racist?? Yes, you would've and you would've been right. That's why I didn't list it, because I'm not racist. But a lot of folks see IR porn as incredibly raunchy and even if I had called you a pig for fucking black men, you STILL wouldn't have been in the right to call me bigot as you are preaching the exact same thing against homosexuals and transsexuals. I used to think you were kinda cute when you got pissed off around here and tried to instigate shit, but that little girl-cutesiness is long gone. Instead I see a spiteful, conceited and uneducated bitch that lets her ignorance get the better of her when trying to cover her own overexposed ass. And before your start calling me a fag or whatever other crude intolerant response you may have, I'll have you know that I'm a hetrosexual 22 year old male who is defending christian because I have this little thing called "insight"- which is something you apparently lack. So when you type in your little teeny-bopper grammar and spelling saying, "ur jus a lil homo 'cuz you says christian has a good body n shit yo", try to make it so that your limited yet somehow bloated looking cranium can comprehend the fact that I'm merely being non-subjective and NOT talking from my own personal sexual preference/standpoint. Now let me translate that into your language: "jus 'cus some dude can see an other dude as good lookin it doesnt mean he likes the cock!!" I can't believe I advocated for you in your tirade against Dana(under a different user name). Yes, I still hate her, but right now I'm kicking myself in the balls for ever believing that you weren't an equally big bitch yourself!!
Serious action here! I can't wait for Christian to blow his load. All. Over. This. Thread. Duke, too harsh. NO need for the "cunt" and "bitch" name calling. Read the etiquette! Adult DVD Talk is a Friendly Community Treat fellow posters as neighbors. Please be respectful of each other and each other's threads. If what someone has posted angers you, wait until you calm down before you respond or simply don't respond. Think before posting. Trolling (baiting people by intentionally posting inflammatory messages) or incessantly harping on an issue/person will lead to the deactivation of your account.
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Posted - Mar 2 2009 : 3:14AM
I know we're not supposed to tell others to fuck off on here but mackenzie pierce is testing my patience. The number of typos in her post is mind-blowing. [o\|]
And so we're once again reminded why there was a need for a "positive" Mackenzee Pierce thread in the first place, what with her presence being a net negative in pretty much every other thread she graces on this forum...
Posted - Feb 21 2009 : 2:43PM
