none of the above mentioned women are desperate enough for money. the ones that do porn are doing it because they can't do anything else and need the cash quick.
"You have sacrificed nothing and no one." 3689 Posts 8/10
Posted - Jun 21 2012 : 10:14PM
Highly insulting. Does "can't do anything else" include the entire range of part-time minimum-wage jobs with no benefits? Surely, the women making a nice living doing porn could handle these dead-end jobs if they wanted to, don't ya think? Porn is a viable career option -- not something to be ashamed of and mocked. All work has dignity.
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Posted - Jun 21 2012 : 10:38PM
I've heard Octomom and Chyna interviewed numerous times on Stern. I wouldn't hire either of them to guard a vacant lot in the middle of the Gobi desert.
Pretty much all the celebrity porn I've seen is lame, except for maybe Severina Vuckovic, which was ok as far as celebrity porn is concerned. Many of the more popular porn stars today are better looking than most female celebrities, so I don't really feel the need to watch another celebrity give a boring sex performance. Of course, if Kate Upton DID decide to do porn, I'd buy her dvds.
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Posted - Jun 21 2012 : 11:54PM
Maybe it will be leaked one day but what you guys think about Terry Richardson's supposed huge stash of sex videos with him and the models he shoot with? Imagine (just my active imagination) super perve Terry titty-fucking Kate and getting her to rim his hairy ass.....[:P)] Myrlie Evers: When you hate, the only one that suffers is you because most of the people you hate don't know it and the rest don't care.
^If it gets leaked then I wouldn't want to be the one who leaked it because whoever it is will be sued by so many people and for such large amounts of money that is children will still be paying for this mess. Not too mention that it wouldn't surprise me if some of the stuff he has done isn't highly illegal like sex with underage girls.
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shannow27a Deactivated User
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Posted - Jun 22 2012 : 3:13PM
Terry is a perve but he's not stupid. The models who sucked his cock usually belongs to lower rung or have dependency issues (he is a supplier). The guys got balls though. The day he did photo-shoot session with both Lindsay and Ali in that famous hotel (forgot the name) somehow slept with Lindsay in the same room on the same night. Rest assured he have eyes on Ali now. She will work with him again just like Kate Upton. BTW I was joking about Kate. She is into black guys. In fact she is into anyone but white dudes! Myrlie Evers: When you hate, the only one that suffers is you because most of the people you hate don't know it and the rest don't care. Edited by - shannow27a on 6/22/2012 3:19:06 PM
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Rosco Fuji Deactivated User
On the licking stick, Mr. Magic Dick! 3309 Posts 2/09
Posted - Jun 22 2012 : 11:34PM
And just how long have you been posting on this site?
octomom said she would never do a porn then retracted this statement by saying she "needed to put food on the table". it's not a theory because this is what she said in the press.
"You have sacrificed nothing and no one." 3689 Posts 8/10
Posted - Jun 23 2012 : 8:36AM
Long enough to wonder why people pretend to quote someone, yet leave off the part that makes the point? "Porn is a viable career option -- not something to be ashamed of and mocked. All work has dignity." Thanks for being such a fan.
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RemyGetsMeWet Deactivated User
Freedom Of Speech Isn't A Punchline 300 Posts 6/12
Posted - Jun 23 2012 : 8:40AM
^ you're being logical, it will make their brains hurt.
Desparate times call for desparate messures. Things change and people change their minds. I think she's a very strange and nutty person but I totally respect Octomom for doing whatever she had to do to support her family instead of doing nothing and hoping others would save her or having the government take care of them. Also admire that she chose to only exploit herself and not the kids. I don't see the sex tape thing as a big deal. She had 14 kids and works out and her body looks pretty good all things considered. Millions of women haven't gone through anywhere near that and their bodies are a mess. If there are people willing to pay her to do a sex tape and enough people willing to pay to see it I say "more power to her".
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Rosco Fuji Deactivated User
On the licking stick, Mr. Magic Dick! 3309 Posts 2/09
Posted - Jun 23 2012 : 10:52AM
Pretending to quote someone? I quoted you directly. And outside of a porn worship site such as, it's not a viable career option and in 99.999% of society it will be mocked and performer will take the heat. I can almost guarantee that any of the girls that are going to Dubai to have guys take dumps on them, (pulling that from the other thread, and yes I realize it's an extreme example) won't be putting that on any sort of resume. Hell, there was another fan thread and the girl makes no mention of escorting, but had to make an emergency trip to Dubai. Embarrassed? Ashamed? I've been around several porn performers out in public during the course of my job, and only one openly admitted to being a porn star. They usually say a model or actress or "I've done a few videos!" Why would that be? The one that openly said she was a porn star actually wasn't a star and only had a few credits to her name and the only reason I even talked to her was to compliment her on ther belly button piercing that said "Porn Star".
Sometimes life is goofier than a monkey on ether 12073 Posts 7/10
Posted - Jun 23 2012 : 1:25PM
She's not fucking doing this for her kids! She's a fucking attention whore! End of story. The authorities should take those kids from her ASAP before something bad happens to them.
This is one of the reasons I will support people like this Goldstein here forever. The world needs more people who openly say "all work has dignity." Most of the problems in porn arise from the fact that other people are judgmental and quite often hypocrites. Some people tend to think that any sex related action, hobby or work is something to be ashamed of. They are the ones who create the gap between porn performers and other people, yet they continue blaming people in porn for their choice of work (and of course they still like to masturbate to them once in a while). One post in a porn forum might seem to be a voice that will never be heard, but perhaps these kinds of statements and opinions will eventually spread slowly in time and will make the social lives of porn performers better in future.
I've always thought it's a sad thing that pornstars get put downs on a porn fan site. Bad enough so many people do it in general but you'd figure they'd get more respect on a suposed fan site. I'd also like to point out that often times pornstars aren't ashamed of what they do but they don't go around freely talking about it because so many people are judgemental jerks that they keep it to themselves to avoid having to deal with hearing stupid nonsense from those people. Why tell people something so they can immediately start judging based on the dumb stuff they've heard and choose to believe? Especially when they aren't in any position to judge anyone themselves.
I must admit I have a mild curiosity to see the Octomom in a car wreck kind of way. I kind of want to see what she looks like down there. It's the same reason I wanted to see John Wayne Bobbitt years ago.
replying to the thread title: what difference does it make? It's not like only 3 porn titles are released per year and they're the ones for this year. There's a massive amount of porn out there--buy what you want. It would be different if they were limiting your choices in any way possible. They're not.
^Well actually they are probably limiting consummer choices because if a studio pays a huge amount of money for one (usually less than stellar) video then they won't have that money to pay for other movies starring real porn performers. I'm not in the undustry but it must be pretty annoying for porn girls to see the money studios pay some of these so called celebrities for what is some rather bad porn. I guess studios must make money on these or they wouldn't still be buying them. Of course I don't seem to be hearing all that many new celebrity sex tapes being offered or whenever a story comes out that there might be one then it quickly disapears and we never hear about it again. You certainly don't hear about Vivid having another sex tape on the market.
^ Wait, how exactly does buying a celebrity sex tape for big money prevent a studio from making other movies? Sad as it may be, most of these releases are bringing in major revenue, so if anything they help stay studios afloat to produce other porn. Edited by - shalalin on 7/1/2012 12:12:27 PM
???...Why would you assume that the studios put so much money into celeb sex tapes that they would sacrifice putting out their normal output? And if they did skip putting out a title or two would anyone really notice? It's not like porn titles come out on a strict schedual. This is especially true these days when so much of the "new" releases are old scenes under a new title.Two things: If the porngirls are smart they realize that these celeb tapes is good for porn because it gets porn mentioned in the mainstream and makes it more acceptable, the celeb porn tapes get people who may not buy porn to visit a shop or site to get the movie and perhaps they'll buy other titles, and most important those celeb sex tapes bring in a lot of money and attention to porn and those studios. All this is good for the porn biz. Secondly, too many porn regulars seem to totally miss the point with celebrity sex tapes. The whole appeal of seeing these "celebs" is that you're seeing something you weren't supposed to see or "celebs" that don't do porn have sex. Sex tapes like Kim's, Paris', Pam's, etc., aren't much to look at compared to regular porn scenes. Know why? Because they don't have a director, camera crew, lighting crew, make-up person, professional equipment, and experience performing for the camera. All homemade sex tapes made by non-pros look bad compared to professionally shot porn. But as weak as some of the celeb sex stuff may look it's still a thrill for some to see Kim or Pam having real sex. Seeing a pornstar for the hundredth time isn't that big a deal, seeing these nonporn "celebs" can be special. And that's the whole point.Sex tapes have to become available for them to buy them. If none are falling into the wrong hands of someone who wants to make money off them or if some "celeb" doesn't try to sell one in the hopes of becoming more famous or making money from one then there's nothing the porn studios to try and buy.
^I'll answer both of the above post on why a studio paying a lot of money for a sex tape can be bad for normal porn performers. Let's say a studio has 100,000$ alloted to the production of porn for the entire year. If they use 50,000$ of that amount to buy one sex tape then they now have only 50,000$ left on their production budget for all of their other projects. It's economy 101. That's not to say that spending 50,000$ on the sex tape was a bad investment for the studio if they make a huge profit from the sales ofd the dvd, Blu-ray and streaming revenue but those profits come after and they don't change the fact that the studio has less money to spend on their regular porn production. I can't see how anyone working in the porn industry from makeup, director, sound, camera people and performers looks at a sex tape as a great thing for them since they aren't part of the movie so didn't work and didn't get paid. The only people aside from the studio who profit from a sex tape are probably editors(if needed) and the lawyers who brokered the deal. Everyone else is a loser.
Maybe going beyond Economy 101 in your analysis would be useful, then. You're talking about porn studios' decision-making as though they're they public agencies, not for-profit businesses. Edited by - shalalin on 7/1/2012 2:06:18 PM
"You have sacrificed nothing and no one." 3689 Posts 8/10
Posted - Jul 1 2012 : 2:19PM
Celebrity sex tapes are not a one-way-street of expenditures for the studios. Studios expect to -- and do -- make more money from the celebrity sex tapes, plus the extra publicity and "free advertising," than they cost to acquire, produce and distribute. This benefits everyone. To suggest that celebrity sex tapes are an either/or sex tape vs. normal porn production situation is just wrong.
How many studios are doing stunt-casting? How many studios are producing porn? How many stunt-cast releases are there (e.g. Octomasturbation) vs. # of other releases? Even by the same studio?
I don't get your logic here. Even if they didn't make two or three movies in order to have enough money to make that celeb sex tape aren't they getting the profit from the sex tape back? So the money to make those movies are gained back from the sex tapes profit and they're still made anyway. It's not like the profits from the sex tape are never put back into the company and those movies will never be made. It's just like regular Hollywood. The big bluckbuster movies make the profit for studio to be able to make the smaller indy movies that don't make that much profit. If those blockbusters weren't successful the studios wouldn't have as much money to fund the smaller films. If there wasn't money to fund the smaller films lots of those actors, directors, crews, etc., wouldn't have the oppurtunity to work in many cases. When a movie is successful it makes the studio stronger and allows them more oppurtunities for more work and growth not less.
Just another bare bum in the shiower 1739 Posts 12/04
Posted - Jul 2 2012 : 9:27AM
I do wonder when Vivid offers millions for every half decent looking chick with 15 minutes of fame, whether they get approaches from girls with less celebrity but who are much hotter than many porn chicks. For instance, you hear about English Page 3 girls and Deal or No Deal models jetting off to Dubai on a regular basis. How much realistically would it take to lure them into porn. I would certainly like to win the lottery and see just how high I have to go ...
Most of these "amateur" porn tapes -- celebrity or not -- are awfully shot. Women don't look sexy in them, too much talking, etc. A Kate Upton tape would probably be hugely disappointing, unless it was shot professionally.
Introducing Dallas Rea
Posted - Jun 19 2012 : 9:32PM
