That scale could be used for a lot of producer's movies, not just B. Skow's. Unfortunately, many of us get off on specific things and watch for other than the boner quality in other movies -- such as plot, acting, quality of sex (whether it turns us on or not), and the BTS clips. I don't have to get off on a movie to think it was good (I get off on women in bondage myself -- how many of those has Vivid produced lately)? Even though Vivid doesn't produce much in the bondage scene, they still have some pretty good movies (I do need to watch some from the past year, though -- I have slacked off on my collection).
Everyone's tastes vary and some people will never be Vivid customers. Seems like a waste of energy to try to convert the diehard Vivid haters. I would go after the people on the fence or those that used to really like Vivid than got burned. Not those they never liked the company's products in the first place. GoreGoreGirl - actually there's a heavy anti-feature/couples porn vibe on most of the board except, of course, The Feature Side. Lots of raincoaters here. ;) Wait until some really popular gonzo girl signs a contract with Vivid or Wicked. Haha. General sentiment seems to be "She was fun. Now she's dead to me." hahaha
Death is caused by swallowing small amounts of saliva over a long period of time. George Carlin 1567 Posts 2/07
Posted - Nov 6 2009 : 12:04PM
Thank you for your comments. I have really tried to listen to you guys and get things done. Not everybody is going to like vivid, I get that, no matter what we do. I just really feel like the people that just take shots personally at me, for no reason, are not helping anyone one here, or helping to improve the product. I can't come on here and say, " hey fuck you, asshole douchebag," " Blow me in Macys Window during the thanksgiving day parade", it would be unprofessional, and not right,so I bite my tongue, and just take it.
Death is caused by swallowing small amounts of saliva over a long period of time. George Carlin 1567 Posts 2/07
Posted - Nov 6 2009 : 12:07PM
Wow, you just taught me something, I did not know that there are people who watch these movies and don't jerk off, I am not kidding either. I am a bit shocked that there are people that watch this for entertainment value, like they would watch a regular movie. That is very cool.
No way! Not even an inkling of a clue that some consider porn to be legitimate entertainment and not just a disposable product used as a means to an end? It's true! Edited by - savoy on 11/6/2009 12:39:27 PM
I don't care to seek out the sickest crap out there But, I must say the sickest title I've seen in a looooong time, and from a rather mainstream release: "Jon & Kate Fuck Eight" I'm sorry, everything about that title and that parody concept is just so fucking wrong...
I think there are quite a few, actually. And there's always the grey area in the middle - movies that you don't intend to get off on, but it happens unexpectedly. I liken it to my enjoyment of horror movies - it doesn't have to be scary to be good, and there are all different kinds of horror (gore, chills, spills, etc, and then some of these sub-categories are goofy, some are serious). I watch adult film for just as many different reasons and expectations.
Death is caused by swallowing small amounts of saliva over a long period of time. George Carlin 1567 Posts 2/07
Posted - Nov 6 2009 : 1:00PM
I saw a movie called Donkey Punch, an English production that was a indie movie that i picked up at blockbuster, it was a very erotic murder mystery, well not really a mystery, ok it was an erotic murder. It was excellent.
Death is caused by swallowing small amounts of saliva over a long period of time. George Carlin 1567 Posts 2/07
Posted - Nov 6 2009 : 6:57PM
News flash for ya, reality porn is factory porn. Oh no, wait, it isn't staged at all, it is all real. shot just as it happens. Just like on reality tv shows. your credibility is waning.
I'm not talking bangbros or realitykings. I'm talking early Midnight Prowl like when Khan Tusion was directing it. It couldn't get more real than that unlike this movie called Bangin' Average Joe.....
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Posted - Nov 6 2009 : 11:18PM
It doesn't matter anymore since none of us got to see it anyway. But the rumor came about because it was reported by several sources prior to the video release, including Ray-J himself who said there was a golden-shower scene on the tape. Since he made the tape, it seems like he would know what was on it. That's the part that everybody I knew was talking about, and was waiting to see if it would be in the movie. Before I watched the movie, I knew that if there was such a scene, Vivid would probably cut it. Something like that just doesn't fit Vivid's style, regardless of how hot it would be to see it. But I had hoped that, for once, Vivid would prove me wrong and not fuck up a potentially good movie. But again, that's exactly what they did.I hope that's not what you think I'm doing. You seem like a really cool guy, but I just don't like Vivid. I don't watch Vivid for the same reason I don't watch regular movies starring certain actors. They just don't do anything for me. If I went to the video store tomorrow and saw a Vivid movie that looked like it has everything I like in a movie, then I might check it out. But that hasn't happened in a long time. Going by the conversation between the two us thus far, even if I gave suggestions on what I think would be improvements, you wouldn't take them. You've already said yourself that there are some things that Vivid just won't show. So why even suggest it?
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Nov 7 2009 : 12:43AM
There's nothing factory made about Mason's films and there's nothing 'real' about Khan. He wishes he could have made rough sex films as great as Mason's. His shitty movies did so well he's not even working anymore. Just like those guys on Bangbros he couldn't learn to just shut up and stay behind the camera. PS. most viewers don't like to watch grotesquely fat, old dudes fuck young girls, you do, but that's not more 'real' than watching Manuel fuck a girl into a bowl of jelly.
[/quote]. . . That scale could be used for a lot of producer's movies, not just B. Skow's. Unfortunately, many of us get off on specific things and watch for other than the boner quality in other movies -- such as plot, acting, quality of sex (whether it turns us on or not), and the BTS clips. I don't have to get off on a movie to think it was good (I get off on women in bondage myself -- how many of those has Vivid produced lately)? Even though Vivid doesn't produce much in the bondage scene, they still have some pretty good movies (I do need to watch some from the past year, though -- I have slacked off on my collection). [/quote] Wow, you just taught me something, I did not know that there are people who watch these movies and don't jerk off, I am not kidding either. I am a bit shocked that there are people that watch this for entertainment value, like they would watch a regular movie. That is very cool. [/quote] I am actually surprised that people jack off to movies on a regular basis, but according to this board it happens a lot. I have jacked off to a bondage flick more than a few times in my DVD rental days, so I guess I can understand it.
Death is caused by swallowing small amounts of saliva over a long period of time. George Carlin 1567 Posts 2/07
Posted - Nov 9 2009 : 1:33PM
I am not talking about you taking shots at me, I am referring to Ramsey. I take all suggestions to Steven, no matter how unusual they may be. If you don't ask, we will never know. I would like to send you some dvds for free. Just to check out. If you like them write a favorable review, if you don't like them write a review that says what you don't like. You have been very respectful and cool, I have no problem with that at all. I have a problem with people who just say stupid shit for no reason at all.
Death is caused by swallowing small amounts of saliva over a long period of time. George Carlin 1567 Posts 2/07
Posted - Nov 9 2009 : 1:40PM
I don't care who shot it, they had to get a model release, which means the actress knows what's coming. No matter how good the set up is, that's just what it is, a setup. If done well, it sucks in people to believing it is real, people like you, who should know better, but don't. Bangin Ave. Joe was actually real guys we got off craigs list.
Death is caused by swallowing small amounts of saliva over a long period of time. George Carlin 1567 Posts 2/07
Posted - Nov 12 2009 : 12:12PM
How cool would it be if your sister starred in one of them? I think you are just putting this stupid request up for shock value. My big question is, when were you released from prison, and does the parole board know you are on here asking for moronic stuff?
^Good one, Woody! To Joldy: If you want rape videos, look no further than Max Hardcore, I just saw a banner ad here recently where someone is selling "Euro-Strength" versions of his work. Max is getting his in prison right now, so don't expect any new releases for about five years. Edited by - mharris127 on 11/12/2009 8:21:17 PM
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Posted - Nov 25 2009 : 3:15PM
Ribu used to make a lot of antivivid films. Probably collectors items now.
This thread was going some where till hollywood effed it up with beef talk. Started it with some nonsense remark to ramsey and continued it with bitch he said she said talk. Now the topic fizzed out. Morality and porn, like oil and water. Ramsey was hitting the notes aswell and I know hes got more. Meatholes is kinda my limit but im always open to new stuff. Lets drop this from the top
Death is caused by swallowing small amounts of saliva over a long period of time. George Carlin 1567 Posts 2/07
Posted - Nov 30 2009 : 1:18PM
This is your giant contribution to this thread? This is your first post on this thread and that is your well thought out bit of genius? I don't know what beef talk is, maybe you could explain.
The cum omelet is nothing. I don't recall the title, but it's some lower level outfit company that did a scene (and they do a lot of this shit) with Bisexual Britni, basically a blowbang... but they keep making her puke (not spit mind you lol) into this big juice container. Then at the end she drinks it all, spit mixed with puke mixed with cum. I'm a sicko, and that was actually too much for me... borderline scattish I guess. She's hot, so I watched it anyway and I gotta say it was fucking gross. Go check it out. Now the cum omelet however is pure GOLD, I dig that. And if you like that then naturally there are a lot of japanese movies you'd like. Where they have some chick eating food and guys keep coming up and cumming all over it. Or go see some of the perverted stories by JM. One of my favorites (most of them are too much), is either #21 or #31 I cannot remember which, but it's Michele Raven. She's having a nightmare about eating a bunch of cum. She's sitting there topless (such nice tits) at a breakfast table and she's got a clear glass bowl with a spoon and guys keep coming up jerking off into her bowl and then she scarfs down all the cum with a spoon... it's way hotter than the cum omelet IMO. I could go on, but we'll see how these grab you first.
Ahh, I get it. So if you have connection to the industry professionally then clearly it puts you above everyone else and this of course is a clear license to come into a thread, ignore the point and blab on about whatever you like, brag, carry on, blather and start trouble in an otherwise interesting thread. I was confused for a minute, but I get it now.
Death is caused by swallowing small amounts of saliva over a long period of time. George Carlin 1567 Posts 2/07
Posted - Nov 30 2009 : 7:41PM
There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance - that principle is contempt prior to investigation. I am pretty good with quotes too.
Not sure what quote you indicate slick, all my words are original seedfeeder and if you are quoting someone, you should indeed give them credit. But here's another original one for you: Rhetoric is rhetoric no matter how it is worded.
And if what you say IS true hollywood, then get back to the point... otherwise, you only prove what I said to be true... and there's really no way around that.
Well, just go to their site, jerkoffzone.com and under dvd titles look up the "perverted stories" line they have. You'll find dead people, heads in boxes, midgets, creatures, and various other gross stuff... While much of it may not appeal to you, I'm sure you'll find a few titles up your alley. Each movie in the series is pretty well described by the large picture of the back of the box. Can't say I like much of it, but I've bought a few of them and as I said, #31 or #21 with Michele Raven is still a favorite... that girl is too damn sexy! As far as other stuff goes. If you like semen on food movies, the original ones that come to mind are "Breakfast at Mike Hott's" (hard to find, but full of good stuff like amateur actresses eating twinkies with cum instead of cream, salad with cum dressing, etc.) And for more extreme cum type movies, check out anything by "Moodyz" and there are some others. Tell me what you're looking for and I might be able to get more specific and suggest more titles.
Oh and I'm talking about "JM Productions" (www.jerkoffzone.com), Jim Powers and his cronies (Brandon Iron is with them too now apparently). JM is the one that did "American Bukkake" which really got it going in the West. The American Bukkake with Sasha Knox is amazing. Also, #29 is great, the girl eats load after load and it's her very first porn movie, didn't know what she was getting into... Powers grills her "would your mother do this?? Would she be proud of you??" (those questions are after she's gobbled about 30 loads, and she really doesn't miss a drop)... it's another favorite. It's REAL and it's quite twisted... you might like some of their stuff.
That reminds me, one of the American Bukkakes, maybe like #31? has a "Cum Burrito"... so if you liked the Cum Omelet, you might like to check that out too lol. (JM did the Cum Omelet too btw).
Death is caused by swallowing small amounts of saliva over a long period of time. George Carlin 1567 Posts 2/07
Posted - Dec 1 2009 : 1:04PM
Dearest Seed If you read my posts on this thread, it was merely my opinion on what was being touted as sick videos. You have someone here asking for rape videos, degradation of women, and other things that could get this site in trouble, as well as the people producing them. If you don't agree with my opinion, no problem, but i am entitled to it. I don't see where any of that stuff, that people have landed in jail for, has anything to do with erotica. It has nothing to do with my inside connection to the industry. I have the right to jump in on any thread I please and state my opinion. As do you. I doubt that you know anyone personally that has spent close to 1 million dollars trying to defend themselves, I do. I doubt you ever visited someone in jail because of obscenity, I have. I doubt you contributed one dime to any ones defense fund, I have. So chill out there yourself, Coolio.
I personally agree with you. It isn't fun visiting a friend in jail, I try to avoid the cop shop as much as I can but jail is not a fun place on either side of the bars. All this makes me think of John Stagliano and his situation -- and he makes mainly mainstream porn movies (and the feds have the gall to charge him on movies that he didn't even make -- he just distributed them!). Steve Hirsch (who you may have been referring to) had a big "obscenity" case himself a few years back, thankfully he fought it as far as he felt he was able to. Edited by - mharris127 on 12/1/2009 3:00:54 PM
Death is caused by swallowing small amounts of saliva over a long period of time. George Carlin 1567 Posts 2/07
Posted - Dec 1 2009 : 6:25PM
You are exactly correct. I'm sure Seed hasn't contributed one dime to John. I know firsthand about the Vivid ordeal.I was there for it. I was there when they threw Russ hampshire in jail, as well as Max and tried to throw JM in jail, not to mention Rob Black. If talking "beef" means speaking out against guys asking for rape videos, I am here to bring on the beef.
hollywood woody Vivid Video/Club Jenna if you can't laugh at yourself, make fun of other people. 1495 Posts 2/07 Posted - Oct 22 2009 : 02:19:49 I tried watching the first link, the buzz word here is tried. I really don't understand what this has to do with erotica. Just my opinion. I don't find hurting women to be very exciting. I doubt Steph would find this too cool, i could be wrong. This is exactly what kicked off your beef with the room. No one asked for your opinion, no one cares about your opinion and absolutely wants to know about your opinion outside the remit. You can’t let things go that’s your deal, trying to mask it with good intentions I tried to end it, but no you want the last word like some 5 year old. You haven’t even realised you been arguing with numerous different people. I bet its not you its them, whole forums against you right. Your, no good citizen, drop the bone just drop the bone. The link was legal that’s how society is run on rules none were broken the forum hasn’t been closed down so i ask you WHATS YOUR POINT. Its all fantasy within the limits. there isn’t any morality police so your case is CLOSED. Edited by - RectomRamington on 12/1/2009 7:11:56 PM
hollywood woody wrote:Everyone is very, very impressed and we all think you rank right up there with Mother Theresa. Now can you get back to the topics Chuck or are you above the rules/etiquette as you continue to imply? Frankly I don't care about your soap box. By your logic, since you own a house... You should help me out if I ever get sued since I'm a real estate broker... even though I've never sold you a house. Your logic ranks right up there with christian fundamentalism :) As I said, you are a braggard, nothing fancier and all you've accomplished here is wrecking this thread. There is nothing notable or noble about you so far. If you are so giving, you wouldn't find the need to brag about it. That again leans more toward arrogance once again. It also appears you thrive on conflict as you refuse to let things go. It also is noted that you could care less about how forums work. You are not in charge, you're not god, you're just a common joe like me or anyone else here. So quit trying to milk what you do as though it's noble or something, I mean, get real! This forum is really for fun, nobody is here to worship you or take note of how great you think you are- so spare us your mental masturbation please
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