Death is caused by swallowing small amounts of saliva over a long period of time. George Carlin 1567 Posts 2/07
Posted - Dec 1 2009 : 8:18PM
I am free to state my opinion , just like you. I could care less if you want my opinion or not. If I feel compelled to comment i will. Speaking of a 5 year old, here you are trying to get the last word. Read the thread, a lot of people agreed with me. There is the real police, so case not closed, case OPEN. And may I ask you who you think you are to censor anyone on this site? Are you a moderator? No. If they have a problem with my posts, they will let me know. Not your job.
Death is caused by swallowing small amounts of saliva over a long period of time. George Carlin 1567 Posts 2/07
Posted - Dec 1 2009 : 8:29PM
Take a look in the mirror Opie. I am sure you are so important that you can speak for everyone. I am speaking on the topic Mary and never implied i was above anything. By my logic, if i use a product and that person is in trouble and needs help, I donate. You just take and let everyone else do your dirty work, with no regard for them. Never said i was great, don't think I'm better than anyone else, and certainly don't need or want any worship. Never acted like I'm in charge, as you are, never acted like God. I can speak out against something I believe is wrong, as you have the right to speak out about something you feel is right. Stop trying to censor me or anyone else here, you are not in charge. Good pick of a profession too, no wonder the housing market is in the toilet, with people like you working it, I'm sure it will fall deeper. Hope you lost a ton of money. If you want to get nasty, i will kindly oblige.
Then prove it, and get back to the topic, otherwise yes... you think you're above the nature and etiquette of a forum. Otherwise you'd start your own thread called "self absorbed political rants" or something and I'd have no right to bitch, also note I wouldn't come in there and change the subject though either :) And you've already made it clear that you use "logic" as it suits YOUR needs. You did not rebut my point because you cannot. You use medicine all the time, yet I don't see you donating to the generous drug companies. Bet you smoke or did at some point, I don't see you donating to philip morris or R.J. Reynolds when they get sued. The list is quite lengthy but it has already become long enough to make your point quite hollow. Where people donate their money is none of your business. Being a fanatic is not a license to do anything, INCLUDING being obnoxious (funny how fanatics miss that, isn't it). And lastly, to argue that it's guys like me that caused the real estate crisis suggests a LOT about your character: 1/ You have no understanding of economics. 2/ You are very childish in a dispute. 3/ You have no interest in truth, only in self promotion. And your mental masturbation continues... please quit making a mess on my screen :) Edited by - seedfeeder on 12/1/2009 8:41:50 PM
Oh and one other thing Wood... as a broker, why would I lose money in the crisis? Any smart broker ran out and got certified with Fannie Mae and got all those foreclosed home listings. You should also note that only certain markets were devastated. So to assume that mine was again suggests you don't really understand the situation. I specialized in foreclosures even BEFORE the crisis, so if anything, it has helped my business... and I'm not a rarity, lots of brokers are doing well. The crappy, part time agents might have no work and might have taken down their license but that's typical and part of the ebb and flow of my business. So clearly brokers weren't necessarily affected-some are prospering. So perhaps you meant you hope I lost money as a real estate investor??? Again this makes even less sense. The investors are the ones capitalizing. The commercial market is very tight, which means investment property has dropped lower across the board (this IS the one area of real estate that is affected in all of the U.S.... but the problems you hear about are mostly in the residential sector of CERTAIN MARKETS. So some investors are cleaning up. If you have liquid, or equity in other investments, you can go out in this recession and buy a bunch of property that will indeed rise in value soon enough. There are 3 commodities human beings MUST have at all times and thus they are perhaps the safest investments out there, one of those is "real estate". But to assume that a real estate broker or real estate investor has surely been horribly screwed by this economic mess is a very ignorant one at best. The industries affected are across the board and real estate itself is a very dynamic industry. I can work for banks, I can work for investors, I can work for buyers, and sellers, I can sell restaurants, I can sell schools, I can sell raw land, I can develop... The list is quite long you see, so if any industry is loaded with options in a crisis, it is real estate. The guys who survived the '80s crisis are frequently millionaires today. And for a 36 year old guy, I'm doing okay. I feed my family, my daughter goes to a good school that I pay for each month... So for you to wish ill will on myself and thus my family, reveals how low your nature really is. You first carry on like you're some activist fighting for The Bill of Rights or something, then in the next post you act like a stuck up spoiled brat lol. Listen, you do what do you do to protect yourself. You're IN that industry so you'd be a fool NOT to be involved when it is THREATENED. I'd do the same thing in YOUR SHOES. Your problem is, you cannot see past YOUR SHOES. You just made my point for me: You made it clear that you hope real estate brokers are starving. Why? Because in your limited view, you don't think it would really affect you. I pay attention to issues that threaten or change MY BUSINESS. Just as you do with yours. The difference between us is: I don't run around bragging because I attended a REALTOR meeting or went to a trial that would affect me, or donated to the Lobbyists and Groups that protect MY INTERESTS and MY PROFESSION. I recognize that it's my duty to do so, both to myself and my family (those who rely upon me to eat and live). All you are doing is YOUR JOB, so quit acting like it's special. You are not special, and you clearly have little ability to listen or learn from others or you'd know all these BASIC FACTS OF LIFE lol.
Hey, I just read through the whole thread just to give holly the benefit of the doubt... but nope, he completely derailed the whole thing and wrecked the thread as I said with his selfish topics which he felt were more important than the thread's topic itself. But I guess I feel a little safer knowing the Morality Police are here and protecting us-I guess I just thought you only got that kinda nonsense in UTAH lol. But I do have a question for you Holly: Personally I think Vivid is garbage... I mean, I see it's value, it's like 3.2% beer for 7th graders... it's "gateway porn" or "half X porn". There's a few sexy stars and I bet Vivid has a good chunk of the market but it's not the type of thing I'd expect a porn vet to even consider as it's just way too tame... I mean... they don't even SWALLOW CUM for god's sake lol. But maybe I'm wrong, the last time I saw a vivid video, it was all terrible boob jobs and loops, and bad editing, etc. But you are seriously pimping it, so let me open my mind yet again: 1/ What would you suggest in a vivid video for some good feet fetishist action? It can be lesbians, solo, I don't care, but surely in all those 1000s of videos, they have a few, yes? What is good? 2/ Do you have any decent blow job videos where it's not really fake, and the girl looks like she's only thinking about her paycheck instead of the cock in her mouth? You know, where the girl acts like she likes her job and cock and of course SWALLOWS CUM (you know, because she IS a porn star)? I'd even prefer a compilation tape IF it delivers what is promised in title. Please recommend me some, maybe Vivid has made some progress since I last looked. 3/ Oh and how bout a gangbang video? Vivid must do those, I mean that's pretty mainstream. But again, I expect the girls to SWALLOW CUM, cuz you know, THEY'RE PORN STARS. (I don't personally understand how a girl can get into PORN and expect to avoid semen. Mind boggling). You name a video for any or all of these, and I'll buy it/them and see if Vivid has turned over a leaf.
Death is caused by swallowing small amounts of saliva over a long period of time. George Carlin 1567 Posts 2/07
Posted - Dec 2 2009 : 12:06PM
Talk about derailing the thread, you just spent the last hour of your time talking about me. Who's ranting now? Save it Shirley, I could give a rats ass what you think.
Everyone saw who derailed this thread. It was the same self absorbed egomaniac that is now back peddling out of the thread. I didn't think you'd have any rebuttals to valid points Chester, but I do expect you to start donating your cash to the poor tobacco companies--you know to prove you're not just a loud mouthed, wrinkly hypocrite. Lastly... I was actually serious about the Vivid stuff.... but I guess your lack of suggestions indicates they are still peddling the same disney porn they were 10 years ago. Fair enough, I'll spend it on Max Hardcore or some other real company then lol.
Oh also, to use Woody's logic: So Holly, this thing about Max Hardcore losing his lawsuit is AWFUL, just awful isn't it? It's no wonder that with guys like you in the business, we have all this envelope pushing--scat films, bestiality, golden movies, and even rape and snuff stuff.... Well Chuckles, I hope you lost a fortune and live in a box over this Max thing.
Yes, that makes perfect sense right? (it should to holly).
Death is caused by swallowing small amounts of saliva over a long period of time. George Carlin 1567 Posts 2/07
Posted - Dec 2 2009 : 1:33PM
It sounds like your head is going to explode. Your analogy is ridiculous, pretty much on the level of outright stupid. That is why i didn't even bother to reply to that. You also have dodged my question, who are you to censor anyone on any thread? Last time i looked, this is a free country, this is an open forum, my comments absolutely had to do with the topic. If someone doesn't agree with you, they are wrong? Listen here Bubba Gump, I love this name exchange, if you don't have something nice to say, shut the fuck up.
If that's true then you can debate/prove it. How is my analogy "ridiculous/stupid"?? Do tell. And it's not about censorship, YOU are the one playing morality police and claiming to be the authority on what "eroticism" is... (how moronic). My claim however is valid: In a forum, you're supposed to stick to topic. If you never do, you're arrogant. Now I've addressed your question that you claim I "dodged". But I see that you haven't addressed any of my points. Let's start out with the fact that 1/ You shouldn't brag about SIMPLY DOING YOUR JOB. Otherwise, you need to thank ME for going to real estate meetings, and donating to NAR and so forth. 2/ You go to trials, donate, CARE, etc. because you are IN this industry, it THREATENS YOU and your LIVELIHOOD!!!!! This doesn't make you special, it means you're doing your job, nothing fancier. I don't expect you to donate to causes that protect MY livelihood. Your situation is no different, you're just self important. 3/ Explain why you would make it personal and say you hope I lost a lot of money due to real estate as a profession? 4/ Explain why being a broker would logically indicate I've lost money in the crisis? Or as an investor? That's a start. You are the one dodging Sally. More hypocrisy or do you ever practice what you preach?
Death is caused by swallowing small amounts of saliva over a long period of time. George Carlin 1567 Posts 2/07
Posted - Dec 2 2009 : 1:42PM
Why are you asking about Vivid, it has nothing to do with this thread. No, not you, derailing a thread, never. You are so full of shit it IS funny. Go to the Vivid Thread, it is all there. I am not on this thread representing Vivid, i am representing Howard. My opinion has nothing to do with where i work. You accuse me of self promotion, not once in this thread have a mentioned or told anyone about a Vivid movie. You brought that up. Everything you accuse me of, you are guilty of.
Death is caused by swallowing small amounts of saliva over a long period of time. George Carlin 1567 Posts 2/07
Posted - Dec 2 2009 : 2:18PM
You are the one making this about me. I never claimed to be an authority on what eroticism is, I said for me I do not find it erotic to beat women. For you, it may be erotic. The reason the legal aspect was brought up is because people have gotten busted for the very thing they are asking about on this thread. Thank you for explaining what my job is, yet you have really no idea what my job is. My job is to sell dvds. Period. Most people that do that don't go to meetings, never served on the Free Speech Board, donate nothing, it is not a requirement for them to do so. I made it personal because you were attacking me, and i will admit that was wrong and I apologize for that. I hope you do well for yourself and your family, i really don't wish anyone ill will. I am not here to argue with anyone, i stated my opinion on the topic, you attacked me, for in my mind, no good reason. Back to the topic, I do not watch sick videos, I do not think they are erotic, that is for me, I know people in my business that have lost everything they have because they pushed the envelope. That is all i was trying to say, that was/is my point.
I see we're coming closer to agreement. And part of anyone's job is indeed to make sure they have one tomorrow, that is my point on that issue. You donate and care (more than I for example) and get involved because it directly affects YOUR business. That is the same reason I care more than you about NAR activism and lawsuits in real estate and the reason I donate to causes in MY industry. That point is valid and if you look at it with an open mind you'll see I'm right. I have no obligation to donate to Max because I watched some of his movies. I'm his customer, nothing more. I care a lot about Amendment 1 but moreso about the Establishment Clause. For example, I lawfully cross off "in god we trust" on every bill I come across to "Americanize" my money (doing my part). Now I believe in THAT... but does THAT give me a right to badger you to do the same??? Does it indicate a rational reason to berate you for NOT doing it??? Does it indicate I care more about Amendment 1 than you??? Certainly not, maybe you're okay with these violations of the HEART of Amendment 1. (Without the freedom to believe and the neutral stance of the Constitution on religion, we'd have NONE of the other freedoms, including the ones you appear to feel strongly about). Live Live and let live Holly... the original American motto on the money (by Franklin) was "MIND YOUR BUSINESS"... Now THAT is an "American" motto and one that doesn't violate Amendment 1. But there is no question you derailed this thread and you were the first one to attack.... judging the poster and criticizing his desire to see "sick".... I think your thoughts are valid, but I don't think they belonged in this thread. And yes, I jumped ship too, but only long after you'd killed the thread and made it a new one: "Holly's political beliefs on the envelope and the pushing thereof..." Now I respect your opinions, I just think you should respect the forum and place said opinions where they belong. This thread was not "IS SICK PORN OK or GOOD?" It was "Give me some links to some good sicko porn like where the girl eats the cum omelet". Yes? So go start a thread on the issue and I'll certainly respect that thread, perhaps even comment (and I'll keep it RELEVANT to the topic). I think it would be an excellent topic, it's just irrelevant to THIS topic/thread.