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| tony romo Member 717 Posts 8/08 | two questions: (1) I've paid to follow a couple of pornstars and both had all their ovideo's of 5 minutes or less...if that the norm for all the girls??? (2) does anyone else find it annoying when you check you're twitter feed and find about 50 tweets of: "another fan renewed their membership!" is this done automatically or do the girls tweet this out every time someone renews their membership??? [Link] |
| pat362 Senior Member 10078 Posts 3/10 | 1-There is no set price on "only Fans" pages. I have seen some charge as little as 10$ and others charge as much as 25$ so you can't use price as a way to gauge the value of the content. 2-You can't view the content unless you join. That means you have no way of knowing if you will be happy or pissed after joining but seeing as you don't have any idea what is in the videos, how long they last or if they are even watchable then I fear pissed is the most common feeling people feel after joining. 3-It seems line every performer has an "Only Fans" page and that includes women who have only been in the industry for a couple of months (if that) and that feels more like a way for women to earn money by doing very little work to earn it or frankly having shown what they can do. *If I had to summarise my feeling on "Only Fans" pages then it would be that they feel a lot like the solo model sites that your favorite 90's to early 2000 model had and being one of your favorite you wanted to join. I know because I joined quite a few and not a single one of them was worth it. They all had cute front pages but not way to know what was inside the members area. Of course you quickly discovered why they didn't show you what was inside the members area. There wasn't anything. You could literally surf and download the entire content in under an hour and often for a lot less time and I can assure you that you rarely downloaded their videos because they weren't worth it. |
| whatsatelephonebill Senior Member 2935 Posts 10/11 | 1.) Some performers put whole scenes on there, some do limit themselves to shorter videos. I don't think the 5 minutes is a platform limitation, and it mostly just depends on the performer. 2.) From what I've heard, it does those tweets automatically, and the performer has to turn them off. I believe it used to be that it was all or nothing with them (i.e. either it posted every single notification [new follower/new tip/new content posted] or none at all), but from what I've seen recently it's gotten a little more granular than that. |
| Dread Senior Member Latex and boobs 5085 Posts 3/07 | 2. The tweets are done automatically. ----Dread's Twitter---- |
| goldie fan whaddarush Member 23 Posts 3/18 | the price she's charging is somewhat on the high side without being able to see the content and for me .. the QUALITY of the content without a preview or knowing if I can download the content . I will pass and move on I am still waiting for the custom video I ordered as well. |
| A_Fan Deactivated User 1187 Posts 9/16 | I have picked some here and there with known performers that I know will give value. But sometimes there is a lesser known person or someone I would like to support but without previews I have no idea if my 10 - 15 dollars is going for unique content or for her doing 3 minute videos of her eating breakfast. It is a good concept and allows performers with established fan based to build a recurring side income; but no previews is slowing growth .We all know we spend money usually when we see something that turns us on... a blank page does not even if the name on the page is a performer we like. Girls who join it when the first enter the industry might not get more than a couple of subs... need to have a fan base motivated to pay. The twitter notifications are also detrimental. I don't have a twitter feed, but I do the instagram with performers. I can imagine I would be unsubscribing from several feeds if I was seeing "I got an onlyfan"20 times a day from my different performers I am following. So, I understand the twitter people finding this a hassle and pretty much spam. I prefer the Patreon model. Subs can be offered at different teirs to appeal to different budgets and there are previews, comment sections, and a lot of interaction in the creation of content. Unfortunately they don't accept porn content. Onlyfans should consider moving to a patreon style of platform. Edited by - A_Fan on 5/21/2018 2:01:37 PM |
| pat362 Senior Member 10078 Posts 3/10 | That's why the people behind "Only Fans" will never allow previews because if they were to do that then their sales would plummet to near zero. Would you pay 10$ or more to see a newbie masturbate for 5 minutes when you can pay 15$ and see her fuck for 30 minutes and more? I also don't think it's a great way for performers to connect with their fans because you have to pay to connect so that leaves a lot of people that simply aren't willing or able to do that and worse the ones who do pay can become really pissed when they realise that they have just gotten shafted with the terrible content so instead of gaining fans. Many performers are losing them. |
| whatsatelephonebill Senior Member 2935 Posts 10/11 | At some point, you're going to realize that not everyone is looking for "the best value" and they just want to support the performers they like, and this is a very simple way of doing that. Also, while the site itself doesn't do previews, as far as I can tell, there's nothing stopping performers from putting the videos and pictures they put on OnlyFans in other places, so that people can see what type of content they're getting. I've seen performers that offer basically the same videos on their Onlyfans and their manyvids pages, which means that the only difference is whether you want to pay for the videos individually or subscribe to see them as they come out. |
| pashio2003 Member 272 Posts 12/10 | I've followed about 15 people total maybe. I've actually found the male stars to have the best accounts as they frequently post bts footage and footage of their personal life where they're having lots of sex with lots of women. Danny Mountain, Chris Strokes, and Johnny Castle are all good examples of this. They post a lot, and they all have full length videos on there. Mia Malkova has some good videos of her rimming on her only fans as well, somethig that is rare for you to see anywhere else. |
| A_Fan Deactivated User 1187 Posts 9/16 | Romi Jasmine Jae London Keyes Charlotte Sartre Adriana Checkik Mia Isabella Just a few examples. I think it is part new content and part just supporting a performer (cue the white knight accusations.. lol). If there were previews I would have picked up more along the way, but that is their business model. Edited by - A_Fan on 5/22/2018 1:40:25 AM |
| pashio2003 Member 272 Posts 12/10 | I signed up for someone only to find out they hadn't been active in months and the videos they had posted in the past were all available free on their pornhub channel. I'll have to go look at my account history to see if I can remember who it was. For the most part I've been satisfied, but can confidently say that some content providers are way more worthwhile than others. |
| pat362 Senior Member 10078 Posts 3/10 | If your ultimate intention is to support a performer you like then you should simply buy one of her gifts from her Amazon wish list or buy her an Amazon gift card. Either way she will be significantly happier with that because she didn't have to do anything to earn it and she may be willing to give you something in return that is far better than anything you would have gotten from her "Only Fans" page.True but they aren't doing that because if they did then they would not get as many people willing to join their "Only Fans" page. I will repeat what I said previously. The only way this works is if you don't know what you are getting. This is the business plan of "Only Fans" and they aren't going to change it and I'm certain they explain that to the performers who use their system. Now that doesn't mean that a performer can't do what you describe and have the same content on two platforms but I would argue that unless you know that you are getting the exact same video on her "Only Fans" page that you are getting with "Many Vids" then you are more likely to go the MV route over the OF route because you know what you are getting. Edited by - pat362 on 5/22/2018 9:59:59 AM |
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| whatsatelephonebill Senior Member 2935 Posts 10/11 | And "the only way this works is if you don't know what you're getting"? That's bullshit. This works by getting as many people to subscribe to it as possible, which can be done with previews or without. Creating said previews is more work, which is why most performers aren't going to do it, not necessarily because they make more money without it. This works basically like performer websites have worked since they started becoming a thing (which is why you don't like this or find it valuable, because you don't see any value in performer websites in the first place, which you already admitted in your first post). All onlyfans really is, in the end, is something that gives performers the ability to upload content and set a recurring price for said content without having to go through the entire process of setting up their own domain/website. Also, for performers that set up both an onlyfans and a pay-per-video option, the pay-per-video option is generally a much worse deal compared to the onlyfans (to the point where, for some, a single video costs more than onlyfans sub). Just like how DVDs generally cost more than subscribing to the site for the same content, or the few membership sites that have done pay-per-video options also are a much worse value than buying a subscription. |
| A_Fan Deactivated User 1187 Posts 9/16 | |
| A_Fan Deactivated User 1187 Posts 9/16 |
Romi was solo stuff. I like Romi alot so I was cool with it for a couple of months. Jasmine Jae was not as good as I suspected, mostly hanging out type of things, I just did a month London Keyes ; was really good but she has stopped shooting and I wouldn't even begin to know what she does now on onlyfans, it is probably tumbleweeds Charlotte Sartre - best one i ever subbed too, as long as you like pissing (it is in the majority of videos I saw). SHe did some great stuff with Dredd too. Adriana - not bad at all, lots of solo, piss drinking, anal toys, etc Mia Isabella - really good, she shoots actual scenes and the such, so it was a good value I also did a couple of months with Jynx Maze around the time she did this puking videos and that scat one. The overall setup at that time was good with lots of content; although the puke and scat is a niche product, I dont know if she still does that. With the lack of previews, I have not tried some of my other favorite performers. I have contemplated Asa but with her boyfriend forbidding any sex scenes, I am not sure watching her shower 10 times a month is that big of a deal. While the onlyfans is only 10 bucks in most cases, give or take, it all adds up. When we are paying for site subs, and all our other porn content, it is hard to commit to onlyfans without knowing what you are getting. Edited by - A_Fan on 5/23/2018 10:32:21 AM |
| pat362 Senior Member 10078 Posts 3/10 | |
| pat362 Senior Member 10078 Posts 3/10 |
You and I both agree that the only way this works for performers is if they get more people to join their "Only Fans" page but I think that in the long run if "Only Fans" wants to survive then they will have to offer at the very minimum a preview of what you get for your money because as it stands the only info you can see is the number of photos and the number of videos you get for your money. You don't know what the photos are about, you don't know what the videos are about and you also don't know how long they last. Let me give you a concrete example of what the problem "Only Fans" faces as a business model if they continue down the path they have chosen. Hannah Hays has been doing porn for under a year and isn't a very prolific performer but somehow she has a 25$ "Only Fans" page that has 22 photos and 3 videos. Let me give you another one. Gia Derza has been doing porn for about a month and she already has an "Only Fans" page but her page includes 95 photos and 52 videos for 10$. Which of these two pages is worth joining? By price and number you would say Gia but since you really don't know what either performers is actually doing in those photos and videos then Hannah's might be the better deal. Then again both might be a bad deal but Hannah being the more expensive is the worse one of the two. |
| goldie fan whaddarush Member 23 Posts 3/18 | |
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| A_Fan Deactivated User 1187 Posts 9/16 | Previews matter if you want to make lots of sales. The "instabuy" fan based only on the performer name is very small in number; most people need a reason. Alot of people are hesitant on onlyfans because they don't want to put down 10 to 15 bucks for a sub only to find it is is a bunch of 20 second clips of the girl saying good morning and eating breakfast. Edited by - A_Fan on 5/23/2018 1:28:25 PM |
| shalalin Senior Member 1733 Posts 11/07 |
This whole discussion reminds me of people who cannot fathom that Vivid and Wicked productions ever sold well. 95%+ of the people posting on ADT aren't the target audience for something like Onlyfans. Edited by - shalalin on 5/23/2018 4:21:43 PM |
| pat362 Senior Member 10078 Posts 3/10 | I think reading A_Fan's post is the best way to know what you get because he sampled a variety of performers "Only Fans" pages. I will finish by saying that the lack of downloadable content is possibly one of their biggest detractors because most porn fans are okay with paying for their porn but they want to download it to watch again and again and not have to keep paying for the same video all the time. |
| whatsatelephonebill Senior Member 2935 Posts 10/11 | |
| shalalin Senior Member 1733 Posts 11/07 | Aside: Onlyfans content shows up in the usual piracy places as well, so it's apparently not impossible to download, just not straight-forward. I say apparently because I've never been subscribed to one to check their video delivery mechanism myself. The legality of making personal copies of content that's only authorized for streamed delivery is another matter, of course. Edited by - shalalin on 5/23/2018 10:38:04 PM |
| A_Fan Deactivated User 1187 Posts 9/16 |
I fail to see how this compares to the vivid/wicked discussion or how a few people who dont understand the buying public would be shocked they sold well. Edited by - A_Fan on 5/24/2018 10:49:25 AM |
| pat362 Senior Member 10078 Posts 3/10 | While I agree with you that many ADT members are people that used to buy their porn on DVD and I suspect many of them are like me and used to rent/buy it on VHS/Beta. They like me have long since moved on to downloadable internet porn. I haven't bought a dvd or BluRay porn movie in over 5 years because I no longer see the point when the movie will be available for download right away and in multiple video resolutions. |
| shalalin Senior Member 1733 Posts 11/07 |
Edited by - shalalin on 5/24/2018 2:11:07 PM |
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| whatsatelephonebill Senior Member 2935 Posts 10/11 | |
| A_Fan Deactivated User 1187 Posts 9/16 | MY ONE MAIN POINT is that having no previews will prevent more growth of their subscriptions. Why does this bother you so much and you find it so disagreeable? The non ADT fan, the general fan, needs to be turned on to dig into their wallet. The "instabuy" is someone who will buy no matter what and that kind of person is on a forum because they are a dedicated fan of certain performers, not a random person surfing on their phone. This should not be getting you so worked up. NO PREVIEWS means some people will not bother putting out 10 - 20 dollars blindly. It keeps their sub numbers lower than it should be. This is common sense. Edited by - A_Fan on 5/25/2018 12:14:26 AM |
| ninja1 Senior Member 2939 Posts 1/08 | Sort of like clips4sale. $1 per minute is considered outrageous highway robbery for the 'average porn consumer'. But for those of us who are seeking scenes which the porn producers are unable/unwilling/clueless/uninterested about making, $1 per minute is the only game in town. Edited by - ninja1 on 5/25/2018 9:58:45 PM |
| pat362 Senior Member 10078 Posts 3/10 |
I don't think of myself as a less dedicated fan so much as a more educated one. I was there when performers were doing the exact same thing with their own solo model site. The fan in me had hope that my 20$ would open up a world of wonder that my favorite model created for me. It never happened no matter how much I hoped it would because if there had been anything of value inside then it would have been visible in the preview of the site. Granted the prices that many clips4sale stores charge for their videos is outrageous but they at least give you a trailer of what your money is buying. It may be a short one and it may not show a lot but you have a good idea of what you are buying and more importantly. If you feel cheated then the fact that you forked over 20$ for a 15-20 minute video will probably mean that you will never buy anything else from that store and they will die. The fact that it's only 10$ entices many people who feel cheated by one of their "Only Fans" purchase to buy another one. At some point even they will say that's it's not worth it but how many 10$ will they have spent before they do that???? |
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| Karnivore Member 261 Posts 7/16 | If you sign up to one where she (or he) posts videos/images every single day, going back through the feed is an utter nightmare. Firefox ends up crashing if you go too far down. Image quality is also terrible, it's just a way for performers to make a bit more dosh on a premium version of Twitter. The only one I liked was Jesh, but he's messed his customers about too much getting the actual website up and running. |
| Peter Mc Member 895 Posts 10/16 | Not been a member of many girls onlyfans and the few I have were usually pretty disappointing, full of poor quality 3 min videos shot on mobile phones. Jynx Maze did try to give her fans some outrageous stuff but was forced to take those scenes down and then seemed to lose any interest in it. Recently joined Diverse Stacy onlyfans and she has some good stuff on there but again it is largely mobile phone footage. Does have plenty of piss content and some nastier stuff like puke blow jobs which you can't get to see her do anywhere else. The scrolling thing is an issue though and phone starts really overheating. Some onlyfans pages seem to be set up so that you can see what is posted on there even if you're not a member (no previews but at least you can see vid descriptions) others don't allow you to see anything unless you sign up. |
| jorgeantonio73 Member Everyone has a story. Im choosing to write mine now 56 Posts 3/18 | Then I have Tiffany Watson premium and that girl is on top of her premiums. New stuff everyday. Personal DMs. Live Fucking. And it's always something new, funny, asking fans for ideas and advice. So really.. it's a gamble George Flores |
| DP_to_mouth Senior Member #1 Chloe Amour fan / More blowbangs! / #DPTM = Suck the cocks clean after a DP 1013 Posts 7/18 | |
| pat362 Senior Member 10078 Posts 3/10 | I don't buy anything without knowing what it is I'm buying so why would change that view when it involves porn. |
| ninja1 Senior Member 2939 Posts 1/08 | |
| pat362 Senior Member 10078 Posts 3/10 | Name me one product you buy without knowing anything about it? That's exactly what "OF" is and that is the only business model they can use if they want to survive because the day is coming where more and more people will feel cheated once they have forked over their money and discover that all they got is a few 2-3 minutes video of the model doing semi-nude things and nothing else. |
| Eipad09 Member Old but gold 392 Posts 8/15 | Now they don't need to shoot as much scenes as they used to be, because with "OF", Fancentro and co. they have an easier way to make the same or more money as they would get to shoot for a companie. The content can be produced cheap. But the biggest problem are not the performers who are using it. It's the "Fans" who pay for it. |
| Dread Senior Member Latex and boobs 5085 Posts 3/07 | I joined Sophie Dees for a month, but she was just posting stuff from her website i already had/seen and pics from er shoots, but t was sporadic at best. So it's hit or miss. ----Dread's Twitter---- |
| elgringoviejo1958 Senior Member From the land of peasant living 1152 Posts 12/16 | |
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| jorgeantonio73 Member Everyone has a story. Im choosing to write mine now 56 Posts 3/18 |
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| whatsatelephonebill Senior Member 2935 Posts 10/11 | Yeah, the idea that studios are begging to shoot these performers, but they're being turned down so that the performers can shoot for their Onlyfans page instead is pretty ridiculous. Yes, I'm gonna refuse money up front so I can shoot this content for free (or possibly even pay to shoot it) on the chance that enough people are gonna sign up for my page to make it worth the hundreds of dollars I turned down by not shooting a scene for a third party. If I really wanted to deconstruct things, I'd argue that what people are saying they want is for performers to be more desperate for money so they're forced to shoot more for professional studios. Performers being able to make money on the side with stuff like Onlyfans is a good thing, and more than likely leads to more performers sticking around than would right now if these options were not available (because many of them would probably just fade away because they aren't getting booked enough to make good money). |
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