Well no I don't see it as a problem, since the content she posts is all new. If she was posting old clips from stuff she filmed years ago I'd be mildly annoyed since I'm not getting anything unique. Karmen Karma also has a pretty good OF, not sure if she qualifies as recent enough for your criteria. Also, people who are willing to spend an extra 10-15 dollars a month to access a specific performer's page are most likely pretty big fans of that performer, so by nature the "fan base" of people it would appeal to is most likely smaller than the average site.
@pat362: Your criteria regarding the value of OF is based on your expectation of seeing different/unique/exclusive content at OF. For me I am not a "rabid fan" of any pornstar. It is simply too expensive to collect every scene. Collecting every scene will involve dozens of websites, some of which are technically or practically inaccessible to me as a consumer located in USA. And with MV/C4s scenes priced at $1 per minute, I have to carefully choose which ones to purchase, and most of them I will never afford to purchase. So, even if a performer has lots of her MV/C4s scenes on her OF, it is still a bargain to pay $10 OF subscription for dozens of videos. Chances are excellent that I have not already purchased any of those videos. The only real "gamble" is the performer might turn out to be an outright ripoff artist, offering no significant content (not even 'recycled' content) for the money. This will be immediately discovered and you wasted only 1-month subscription. My favorite OF performers have a mix of 'recycled' pics and vids which can also be found on their c4s/MV sites/other websites, and spontaneously-shot smartphone/webcam vids and snapshots.
^Let's first agree on one very important thing. No one knows the value of an "OF" page until he or she has already paid for it and therefore they are betting on hope rather than reason. Some of those people hit the jackpot and are super happy with the content but unless you have facts to prove me wrong than the recurring theme among most of the people who are pro-"OF" is that they can't name too many model whose content they so enjoy that they keep rejoining their "OF" page.
In all fairness my list of favorite is a mile long so I could never join all of OF" pages even if i could see the content but I can assure you that if I knew for certain that I could get some of their MV or C4S content for one price than I would gladly pay a high price to join a select few of their "OF" pages but can you name me your top three favorite model whose C4S and/or MV content is available on their "OF" page?
P.S: I can't accuse any performer to be a con artist because I don't know if they are but I am a guy that once upon a time used to join some of my favorite performers websites and except for maybe 1 or 2 of them. The content was utter shit that they was either leased or so bad that you barely skimmed it before moving on. Were those performers con artist or were they using a system that existed and ultimately no one was forcing me to join their site. The same can be said for todays performers. No one is forcing fans to join their "OF page.
The pornstar pages seem like a club with a cover charge, you pay to get in, then everything else is extra (thats not mentioned until after you join). Also lets not forget the multiple emails a day asking for tips or to pay money to view a short video (in most cases no preview, so you have no idea what your paying for).
BTW any idea to tell if the real pornstar is chatting with you or just a ghost writer? I have a suspicion with a famous veteran black female performer but don't know how to proof.
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womenrsubs Deactivated User
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Posted - Dec 18 2019 : 1:23PM
Onlyfans business model is basically emotionally tricking you into believing there's something big behind the payment wall, only to find nothing.
^^Here is my rule of thumb which doesn't answer your question but may help you anyway. If you are chatting with model and you believe that it's her then don't look behind the curtain because like Dorothy you may find out that it's an old man. The only real way to know who you are talking to is if you can hear or see them. Otherwise it can be literally anybody.
^I don't care for "OF" business model because it preys on the hopes of porn fans and while it's not illegal. It's at best amoral and at worse immoral. That said. The people who sign up to any models page site unseen are fooling themselves and not the other way around. None of these people would buy a piece of clothing based purely on a vague description. They certainly wouldn't buy any electronic device without at least seeing some pics and reading a description of what that device can do but they will gladly fork over 5$, 10$, 15$ or more dollars just because their favorite model has an "OF" page.
I've done a couple months of onlyfans with a couple performers over the last year. Deemed it not worth staying in for the long haul. Still, never felt like I was duped. In a perfect porn world, we wouldn't be losing stars (Lana Rhoades/Mia Malkova) to sites like onlyfans. But, is there anything wrong with this practice? Don't see it.
I've only followed non pornstar accounts (like Brittany Elizabeth Latex Lucy and Princess Pumpkins) and those accounts usually post more non paid hardcore stuff then the industry girls I've followed outside of Anna Bell Peaks. She does a combo of both. Plus they're only like 10 dollar subs. Those seem to have a better interaction and post rate than "pro" models.
The answer to "not losing stars to Onlyfans" is to pay them more for their "pro" scenes, but porn has been devalued enough in general that I'm not sure of how possible that really is.
And they still decided that getting $7-12 a month from a bunch of fans is more worth it. Scene work can be pretty inconsistent and is dependent on other people hiring you, this is a continuous stream of income as long as you're willing to put in the work to put up something on a regular basis. You offer more money (either by paying them more per scene, or shooting them more often), then the math changes.
^If performers were to shoot porn and also have an "OF" page as well as maybe a C4S/Many Vids page than I might agree but the reality is that just about every performer who is a few months in the industry and has fewer scenes to her name already has an "OF page as though anyone should want to invest any money in an attractive woman with zero track record.
It's true that there isn't enough work to go around for all of the available performers but it's also true that many make a more than decent living doing porn and using that to promote their other activities like stripping, cam shows and what not. It's also sadly true that many of them will use that fame to get people to join their "OF" page and the content will be crap but at least they offer content on platform that customers have a good idea of what they are paying for.
They all have an OnlyFans page because even at its worst it's making money for posting things that, before OnlyFans, most of them were posting on their social media feeds for free. There's no reason for them not to create an Onlyfans page once they have a few scenes under their belt, and it's up to every performer to decide how much time and effort they want to dedicate to it. It's not always about people looking to rip people off.
^That's one way to look at it but clearly you and they are missing something that I think is important to remember. A performer is in most ways like any mainstream celebrity in that they have an image that has an intrinsic value. We can argue on what that value is but we can't argue that it has none because we are willing and happy to pay to see them. That image can be tarnished by the things they do on and off screen.
When a performer chooses to make money from an "OF" page than she runs the chance of alienating some fans if she doesn't care about the content she uploads to that page and ultimately those fans are the ones that support her financially. Now I don't know if your average porn fan will be so pissed at a performer when he realises that he just spent 5$ on utter crap and decides that he will never watch another thing from her but I suspect that the one who spent upwards of 15$ or more will be a significantly more upset because his/her expectations was higher since he/she assumed that a higher cost meant higher quality.
I think that as more and more porn fans start to realise that so many of their favorite's "OF" page aren't worth anything and these same fans notice that this is all these performers are promoting on their social media and aren't actually shooting porn than fewer and fewer of them will want to fork over any amount. I mean the 1$ trial used to be common for just about every porn site and yet today few people fall for that old trick. It's not because the hope isn't still there but that fans now know it's not worth a dollar. It may take a few years but some day fans will also know that a 5$ "OF" page isn't forth five bucks.
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Tiglath55 Deactivated User
136 Posts 3/18
Posted - Dec 23 2019 : 5:33PM
Some are clearly an attempt to make money with little or no effort on the part of the performer. Others are actually pretty decent, and the performers are actually making an effort to satisfy 'fans'.
So the actual problem here isn't necessarily what the performers are doing, it's in the expectations of the fans. Which, for one, is why I originally brought up actually doing some level of research before you join a performer's page so that you have some idea of what you're getting into. Even if that research is just going onto their regular social media page and seeing what they post there (because, again, Onlyfans is more or less just a paid version of that). Second, I'd argue that fans have warped expectations in general if they're expecting the same level of value from a $5-10 Onlyfans sub versus a $20-30 website sub (and I'm not even talking network websites, but that used to the general price for performer's websites as well, and there are still some non-network sites that charge that much for one scene a week).
^Actually the problem is that the people behind "OF" use the hopes and expectations of porn fans to make money and by extension so do any of the models that use that platform. I suspect that "OF would slowly die if they required that all their models be honest about the content they are promoting on their platform. As it stands you only know the number of pics and video but that's it and while you can follow a models social media comments. It's unlikely to be all that illuminating when it comes to what she has shot for "OF" because unless she gets into the details then all you know is general info.
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Porn Scout Deactivated User
3735 Posts 10/02
Posted - Dec 24 2019 : 12:54PM
In a way though, it's good for us that most girls don't treat their OF as an actual business because if they did, then more of them would have success with it and they'd stop shooting scenes for studios. As it stands now, OF is basically a sideline for most of them.
All you need is general info. What exactly are you basing your expectations on if not general info? You keep posting about "fan expectations" without saying what any of these expectations are based on. If the type of things a performer posts on their regular social media pages are lounging/personal pics and BTS videos, then guess what? That's most likely what they're posting on Onlyfans too, unless they state otherwise. You also underestimate the desire of people to engage in general patronage, which is actually a pretty big market nowadays with sites like Patreon (and even Twitch).
Edited by - whatsatelephonebill on 12/25/2019 12:23:08 AM
I agree with many of you that onlyfans is a scam. That is because you are a fan of pornstars who has more than 500 fans on their pages. Those pornstars like Natalia Starr, Nicolette Shea, Kendra Lust , Arianna Marie and etc. hire assistants who help to manage the page.
If you want the real 1 on 1 experience you have to look somewhere else. You can find tons of good looking girls on this platform.
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I will admit I am an old fogey. But I subscribe to Casey Calvert's OnlyFans. But I have no fucking clue what a DM is. Yes, I am stupid, I admit it. Can someone please tell me how to DM so I can actually purchase some of these vids? For Casey, I have no problem with shelling out 40 or 50 bucks to get some quick vids of her sweet asshole winking and gaping....Yet, I can't figure out how to do it....Maybe I'm an idiot....Maybe I'm just too drunk.. But being drunk is the only time I'm willing to spend the money! LOL!....How exactly do you do this stuff?
On her home page, you just need to click the "Message" button to start a DM.A scam requires false representation of a product or service offered in exchange for your money. Having assistants manage one's OF page in itself doesn't qualify as a scam. The porn actress would have to advertise personal 1-on-1 interaction between herself and a fan for it to be called a scam if the reality is that she has an assistant dealing with fans.
"DM" is a Direct Message. That term was originally specific to Twitter, but people use that term on any platform now to mean send them a private message. On the Onlyfans homepage, navigate to the message icon near the top right (looks like a cross between an envelope and a chat bubble). From there, you should be able to compose a message to any of the performers you're following. If there's some kind of specific content you're looking for you can request it. Generally the performer will send you back a locked message with content that you can access by clicking on the lock icon and agreeing to pay the amount to access it.
There is no additional fee for that scene because there is no scene at all. You better find another onlyfan page. Nicolette Shea onlyfan is not worth a penny compared to LilieMFC or Sutin onlyfan pages .
I have joined Two Only Fans pages. One was worth the money (English Pornstar Amber Jayne) and the other one has actually put me off the model I used to like. Pot luck I guess.
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Posted - Feb 26 2020 : 2:28AM
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Porn Scout Deactivated User
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Posted - Jul 8 2020 : 8:15PM
When you guys join an OnlyFans site, are you able to see how many members there are?
Can anyone recommend any good accounts with videos where the girl rims the guy and f-on-m ass fingering? Would be interested to join but don't know where to start! Much appreciated!
No search function, no scene lists, no performer listings. They assume fans are dopes, and in my case, they are correct.
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Interracial Gets Me Stiff Deactivated User
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Posted - Jul 10 2020 : 3:21PM
I would say maybe take the number of likes her average post gets and then double it and multiply by her monthly fee, then add maybe 100 or 200 from tips (could be more if she has some dude who is completely obsessed with her or something) but it should give you a pretty accurate number.
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