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tony romo
Member

717 Posts
8/08
Posted - Jan 24 2021 : 8:12PM
color me stupid, but, I don't see auto-renew!!!

SP_Love
Senior Member

"Freaky Deakies Need Love Too"
1181 Posts
2/11
Posted - Jan 24 2021 : 9:39PM
^
When you enter the content provider's home page (e.g. https://onlyfans.com/adrianachechik) you'll see the header at the top of the page (probably a sexy image of her), her info is below that (available or not, location, instagram etc.) and below that you should see your sub info. The big blue area within that sub info box should give you the option to cancel. It's the same button you clicked when you subscribed in the first place.

Nosce Te Ipsum

LezFan
Senior Member

1620 Posts
5/18
Posted - Jan 24 2021 : 10:55PM
^^ You can go to your following list and turn off auto-renew that way as well.
tony romo
Member

717 Posts
8/08
Posted - Jan 27 2021 : 4:18PM
maybe it's because I'm using a tablet (computer took a shite) but I don't see auto renew...

only fans.com sent a reply on how to cancel subscription but it's a dead link...

 
tony romo
Member

717 Posts
8/08
Posted - Feb 23 2021 : 9:49AM

followed instructions upthread on how to cancel account but rip-off artists still took out $25...

...next to impossible to contact these clowns...any normal porn site has a phone number to contact them...

can anyone post phone number for these people???

Simple Simon
Senior Member

12302 Posts
2/15
Posted - Nov 11 2021 : 6:25AM
Lucy is a mum of two young sons. Her full-time job is on OnlyFans.

"sending her children to prestigious schools, she's providing her six-year-old son with a disability the best medical care possible, and just last week, she booked a five-day cruise for her and her family - all funded by the money she's made as an adult content creator on OnlyFans."

"the fact that I'm monetizing [sex] doesn't make me any better or worse than the man next door who isn't. I just saw an opportunity where I could really use my sexuality

"sits in the top one per cent of creators worldwide"

Simple Simon
Senior Member

12302 Posts
2/15
Posted - Nov 26 2021 : 1:42AM
Renee Gracie on what life on OnlyFans is really like

"Confession time: a lot of girls, at some stage of their life, have been faced with a big bill, perhaps car insurance or a massive credit card debt and then had the teeny tiniest ponder about jumping on OnlyFans, getting their kit off and making a quick buck."

Edited by - Simple Simon on 11/26/2021 6:18:11 AM

Karnivore
Member

261 Posts
7/16
Posted - Nov 26 2021 : 3:19PM
New one to me, 'free' subscription where all content is then paywalled, swiftly unsubbed from them. I can just about grasp sites like C4S and Manyvids and their awful payment structure, at least you're getting decent quality scenes, OnlyFans is a different cesspit in itself. Quick pic or two uploaded on the mobile, give me $10. Yeh, jog on.
Simple Simon
Senior Member

12302 Posts
2/15
Posted - Nov 28 2021 : 10:10PM
snufish
Member

580 Posts
4/14
Posted - Dec 4 2021 : 1:24PM
https://www.helmerfriedman.com/unruly-sued-for-employment-law-violations/

Be well

ao606
Deactivated User

1035 Posts
11/20
Posted - Dec 4 2021 : 2:31PM
I just noticed they added a Purchases link on top of your messages. It basically links you to purchases from that creator.
NatalieK
Member

live life, work hard & enjoy!
47 Posts
8/20
Posted - Dec 5 2021 : 6:21PM
I can´t speak for other models, but I know I always give my fans on OF personal interaction, daily selfies, clips and pics, I update my timeline a few times a day and every few days I update with at least a 10 to 20 min scene, a video i filmed that week...

with regards to manyvids, as i´m also on this site, this is a completely different platform, a clips site, so the clips you purchase are per clip,you do receive the trailer, but then, this is not how onlyfans has been created. I can say, i display all my updates, or at least you can read the description i add with the vid, clip or pic set...

Sad to hear many negative comments about a fantastic platform, sadly like anything, it only takes a few people to make things shit and the models or stars taking advantage of people, are obviously doing this :( x

Try some other girls, use the search on the onlyfans search bar, use topics, genre, niche like outdoors or tits etc etc and you´ll see many models charge less than $10 a month and have special deals on, so come and try some of us out, enjoy some personal enjoyment and lots of horny porn vids to wank over!


Natalie K

Denim Desire
Member

554 Posts
7/16
Posted - Dec 7 2021 : 6:52AM
I have to say, I've been a subscriber on OF for a while now, and have always had concerns with the "price" of content charged by some models, but there are a few now who are literally taking the p!$$

Rebecca Volpetti has started charging her fans over $10 for a 1:20 second video, and $20 for a 3 minute video....

she's not alone, many girls will send through "bundles" for like $50 dollars saying "4 videos to explode to" and provide no description of what the videos are/contain or even how long they are

I realise girls are using OF to make money, but when you're trying to literally charge the same price for video that it costs for a month's membership to a large network site like AdultTime, then you really need to be providing explicit content not available elsewhere

and as for the popularity of bundles that are on "offer" daily, if you're not prepared to provide trailers or descriptions for each scene included, and aren't even able/willing to say how long each scene lasts, then I'm afraid many followers will just unsubscribe and spend their money elsewhere (like a network site)

I don't know how many people feel like I do about this, but it is becoming a joke now that girls are literally trying to charge over the top for literally a handful of seconds worth of blurry content

Denim Desire
Member

554 Posts
7/16
Posted - Dec 10 2021 : 8:05AM
another pet peeve I have now is the disparity between a girl's video pricing between their paid/premium and their free accounts:

Milana Ricci is a great example - $9.99 a month for her "premium" page, yet her free page shares the exact same content daily, and scenes are literally just $1 more on her free account than her premium page

scenes are roughly 5-10 mins, and she charges $32.99 for the scene on her free account, and $31.99 on her premium page

which begs the question - what exactly are people paying the premium membership cost for, if you're not offering anything better or exclusive?

 
Simple Simon
Senior Member

12302 Posts
2/15
Posted - Dec 11 2021 : 12:54AM
snufish
Member

580 Posts
4/14
Posted - Dec 11 2021 : 5:13PM
They want you to sign up

Be well

Simple Simon
Senior Member

12302 Posts
2/15
Posted - Dec 11 2021 : 6:30PM
^ Is it requested by OF that you talk about how much you make to encourage others to start their own OF site?
Denim Desire
Member

554 Posts
7/16
Posted - Dec 14 2021 : 12:32AM
probably, that wouldn't surprise me - the site itself does so much for publicity yet so little for followers to understand exactly what they're paying for, it's a great sham marketing system

recently I've tried to buy content from a number of girls, specifically requesting specific scenes to unlock/buy and just get fobbed off with "I'll have a look for you later honey" and then receive the daily promotional/scheduled messages asking me for tips or to buy a scene I'm not interested in

it's confusing - what other business model helps people to receive money, but also affords them the opportunity to flat-out reject direct offers of cash for specific content, because it's too hard for the platform itself to make those scenes directly available for fans to buy?

pointless. and the girls themselves clearly aren't interested, if you're even chatting with the girl herself that is :(

Graciefan
Member

525 Posts
6/11
Posted - Dec 14 2021 : 12:47AM
I did purchase a bundle once. It was a star I liked and the content appealed to me. It was three videos but one of the videos was in reality just one video split in two. All of OF seems to just be a way to nickel and dime. Unless the subscription is free (or really low like 5 dollars a month) and the videos have trailers I am not going to pay.
Simple Simon
Senior Member

12302 Posts
2/15
Posted - Dec 14 2021 : 12:53AM
^^ It just seems strange to me, if wanting to get more people to subscribe is the aim. I mean entertainers in pop culture always make a determined effort to not discuss how much they make - or flaunt their wealth - as they know this would alienate them from their audience.

So, why are all these porn performers so eager to publicly state how much money they - supposedly - make on OF?

ReturnOfTheDude
Deactivated User

110 Posts
9/18
Posted - Jan 3 2022 : 3:17AM
Im getting more and more disgusted at OF

When its free or 5$ its not too bad to subscribe but sometimes i see prices like 20-30$, litteraly a monthly porn site plan, and all it gives you is selfies and 10 secs clip. Then you get DMs of actual porn but they are like 10 minutes vids at best and the prices are all over the place crazy. Usually pornstars don't charge "too much" but unknowns/instagram models i see often ridiculous stuff like 80$ for a vid or sometimes even 50$ for a few nude pics... and you can't even be sure they will be great ones with face and clear view etc.

There is one girl wich her sub was free and her ppvs are rather cheap at 5$US (wich make it around 7.50$ CAD) , well cheap for OF standard, its not cheaper than regular porn, anyway, so i bough a few, the ones that mentioned facials as i love this. And well both are filmed with cellphone so quality is very meh, the first one the guy shoot everywhere and she get little on the face, mostly just mouth and miss, and the second the camera angle is terrible, way too far. Overall i paid around 15$CAD wich is not crazy but i don't feel really satisfy with my purchase.... yeah the novelty of seeing her take a facial is nice but its so badly filmed i don't see myself wanking to that often.

And even if we speak purely pornstars, i don't want to pay 20$ for a new pornstar scene, not when a major porn site sub is 30$ and nail me tons of updates a month and a mega giant backlog.

OF has ONE redeeming quality imo and thats giving us some girls in porn that we would had never expect and/or would had never shoot for major companies, but its still frustrating to see them in such low quality stuff for overprice.

BUT its even MORE frustrating to see actual pornstars, the ones we did use to watch in great quality content, now shooting only for their OF in those shorter, subpar quality vids.

I mean i complained Madison Ivy was only shooting for brazzers for a while because i wanted to see her do different stuff and style, but now its even worst, its strickly OF. Yes i love her look, and she seem genuinly a cool gal, but i watch porn to be exited, i want to see great quality PORN with guyS (pleural). There is instagram for seeing her post her life and such. And anybody with 2 brain cells know the messaging is not done by the actual pornstar. A girl like her is too known to have the time to spend replaying to everyone, even if they pay for it. Surely has assistants.

in 2021 we saw 3 classic stars come back. Former Club Jenna girl Chanel St-James and former Vivid girl Savanna Samson. Both aged gracefully and their brazzers scene were actually pretty good. But ONE scene and that was it... want more? OF of course... with all that is mean. Angel Dark also came back and have not shot anything outside OF. But at least when it comes to her, sub is free and she provide trailers, so you don't go totally blind, wich is better.

I want to see them shoot with other big companies, make proper porn. I get it, maybe without OF they wouldn't had come back at all, but dang its frustrating to be teased like that.

Anyway maybe im bitching a lot and maybe we had it coming taking porn for granted all these years, especially since it has expended so widely on the Internet, but damn Covid or no Covid, i don't think it would had change much, we are loosing performers to OF all the time and we are seeing less quality stuff release.

Great series from the past feel like a distant memory...

nemmy94
Member

90 Posts
4/21
Posted - Jan 3 2022 : 12:23PM
I think what we're seeing now is the transfer of power into the hands of the performers. They know there is a ton of money to be made, minus the cut from the platform, and the work can be done within the safe confines of how they want to be treated, perform, and any other detail that they may not have had complete control over in the past. As a consumer it will most likely mean less mainstream scenes with your favorites and, depending how dedicated you are to following them and collecting their content, a possible significant hit to your wallet. Some models will not need the mainstream sites to maintain their lifestyle so they'll continue to do their own thing with the occasional appearance when the money is right, others will fail to make those gains and return to the industry machine.

As for the people who don't like the way some models run their pages with no previews of videos... just ask and see what the videos are. I don't sub to many models past the first month but the ones that I do I will simply ask what is in the video package prior to buying and most are willing to let you know or send a screengrab so I know if I already have it or not. On that note, you can simply ask if the videos were previously released. Onlyfans, to be truly enjoyable, almost always requires proactive action on the part of the subscribers. If you get burned then unsub, the same goes for shitty mainstream sites that allow you to sub for $10 but then restrict content until you cough up another $10-20 once you're in. Ask the model what you're buying and if you get a bullshit response then bail, but do yourself the favor of asking first.

snufish
Member

580 Posts
4/14
Posted - Jan 3 2022 : 6:55PM
It was always in the hands of the performers. Who do think owns studios and direct movies? performers have had their own studios way back when.
Everyone video industry provides a trailer, Hollywood, Television, porn, horror, doc, news, anime, sports. A screengrab and short synopsis may not be enough. Membership sites used to provide a 2-5 minute trailer to entice paying customers.
Consumers have rights, they must know what they're getting for their money before paying.

Be well

Alizee
Member

Natural beauty + NFT collector
906 Posts
11/21
Posted - Jan 3 2022 : 11:13PM
I just hope this doesn't go at the cost of cool niche sites like ftvgirls eventually. Think about what you're getting for your money. 30$ Is a typical price for a monthly sub at a professional site with access to terabytes of quality content. Do you think one short shaky video is worth as much? Those should really be 1$ micro transactions considering how many times they're sold over.
 
nemmy94
Member

90 Posts
4/21
Posted - Jan 4 2022 : 3:36PM
I would wager that the long history of abuse and mistreatment tilts the balance of power toward the studios/websites and away from the performers. And to your point, once a performer owns and operates their own studio or site they're now part of that "management" or "production" machine and aren't necessarily strictly a performer themselves. It's a nuance to be sure, but its like someone on the sales team getting promoted to manager, sure they're still your coworker and no matter how chill they might be they aren't one of the 'workers' anymore. The good news is that standards continue to rise and social media is making it easier to call out the shitheads who take advantage of people in the industry. The lure of money that OF allows can still sway many away from mainstream production which means the platform needs to die off or the industry needs to evolve. I don't see OF as a platform, or its offshoots, going away anytime soon, there's simply too much money being made to allow that to happen.

I agree with your next two points but competition and regulation aren't the same on OF as they are in Hollywood or television in general. As OF evolves and standards improve the days of spamming pixeled previews will eventually come to an end as creators accept that people will buy more often when they see what's actually being sold. Confidence rises among the fans and the new standard is set. While I wish we were at that point now we're still in the promordial phase of the platform and the growing pains are real. I'm very open about being burned by several well known pornstars and their deceptive and outright false sales on OF but for as many of them there are more that are upfront with everything. I don't necessarily like how much they charge but if a girl can get $100/min for a custom video then she should ask for $100, it's the smart thing to do.

I appreciate your feedback on the post and hope you have a happy 2022.

ReturnOfTheDude
Deactivated User

110 Posts
9/18
Posted - Jan 4 2022 : 4:38PM
About first point, the issues are 2 things mostly. First one is quality of content. Im all for the models to have control over their work and keep making money of what they shot instead of them been paid a few hundreds and never get anything afterward but the issue is too often they don't have the professional equipement that studios have. Cellphone vids, bad angles, bad lightning etc are rampant in OF stuff not to mention they think a 10 minutes video is deluxe... :/ and a 4 to 6 minute video is standard. I get that pro videos often have some intro fluff that is not always usefull but i want a solid 20 minutes of sex...

Second thing is the pricing. OF is simply overpriced in general. You pay to sub (often), you pay to unlock videos a la carte, it start to rack pretty fast. Even if every scene was only 10$, not even counting the sub its 3 scenes and you already paid the same ammount you would pay to a major website for 1 month wich include acces to their backlog of hundreds of scenes.

As for the second part of your post, a lot of models actually ask you to pay to even just send a message... So you can't even contact them without attaching that 3$US to it...

Maybe im an exeption but i do not really care to speak to the models and "simping". I just want to buy content and fap... Some dudes love feeling important and getting attention from models, i know some models reply themselves, others have assistants, maybe it does not matter for the guys who enjoy this, i don't know. In any case i can understand some models not wanting to receive endless waves of DMs and thats why they ask $ but because of that we can't even make legit inquiries about the content.

nemmy94
Member

90 Posts
4/21
Posted - Jan 4 2022 : 5:20PM
You can safely ignore that 'must pay' for the response line, it's just an easy cash grab. Yes, some girls won't respond without it and if they do it takes a while. But it's their time and attention you're paying for and if you put your self in their position and ten people want to plunk down $5-10 to get a quick reply from you and I don't want to pay... well then I should be prepared to wait since your time replying is earning you money. The real issue is you don't want to pay to have someone reply to a DM, neither do I tbh, but that's the game and so long as there are a line of people waiting to pay then the people like us either ante up or prepare to wait. Truth is I stopped paying for DM's a long, long time ago and have never had a long wait getting replies from anyone on OF, even A-list pornstars. I also don't think I'm actually talking to the model in question, with the exception of two accounts, which is another reason I'm not forking over money just to send a message to a service that replies on behalf of a model.

Quality is the biggest issue everyone can agree on regardless of personal preference. I don't think we'll ever see consistent quality on OF for the same reason mentioned with the pay to chat part - these models are making so much money with an iphone and no lighting that there is very little pressure to upgrade to actual video recording equipment. I prefer the amateur looking content so it doesn't affect me as much, but I'm not insulated from the fact that there is a shit ton of poor quality content being sold even from the models I've followed. This is however another example of content not improving until the market demands it, and for now the market isn't demanding it more than it is accepting it.

As a side note, I use OF almost exclusively for custom content. I prefer photos over videos and the videos I request are always solo. There is enough porn available to last a lifetime so my leanings are more toward unique content that you aren't going to find on a tube site, a mass network site, etc... I like the idea that my favorite models are taking very specific photos or videos that I've requested and won't be available as part of a $15/mo mass produced site. If that makes me an outlier in the OF consumer market then my experiences are definitely niche and not reflective of what you or some others here are looking for.

Wilksjohn90
Member

48 Posts
4/20
Posted - Jan 5 2022 : 6:40AM
I hate no one ever really uses a camera man. Tripod videos suck
MailStrict
Member

14 Posts
7/21
Posted - Jan 7 2022 : 10:01AM
Apparently onlyfans is no longer giving refunds for payments made over 90 days. I tipped for custom content and the girl told me it would be sent within 6 weeks. She then strung me along since then and now she won't respond to me. Honestly what's to stop other girls from doing this? I'm going to be out money now since I doubt she'll deliver.
nemmy94
Member

90 Posts
4/21
Posted - Jan 7 2022 : 10:34AM
I see a lot of red flags from the start - but you're most likely screwed, unfortunately.

I only pay two models up front since I've had a lot of content done from them so I trust them. Anyone and everyone else - when you make a request you must insist that the model sends it to you as a PPV message so there is proof of delivery/receipt and they don't get paid anything until it's unlocked. I'm sorry to see you probably got burned, it's happened to me and it does sour the experience.

TopStoryToday
Deactivated User

569 Posts
4/20
Posted - Jan 7 2022 : 12:24PM
Yeah. Paying thirty dollars for a site with extensive library of professionally shot content sounds like an amazing deal now.

The founder of OnlyFans, Timothy Stokely stated that they are paying around $200million to content creators each month. 33% of the revenue is earned by 1% of the OnlyFans content creators. Some of the successful content creators in the OnlyFans get around $100,000 per year or more. (earthweb)

My suggestion for studios would be to experiment with paid video on demand. The average OnlyFans subscription fee is $7.20. Charge somewhere around that number for a scene with clearly defined value. Set a release date, market the scene and then drop it. See how it goes. Experiment. Test or you never know what you are missing out on. My guess is a lot of money is being left on table.

TopStoryToday
Deactivated User

569 Posts
4/20
Posted - Jan 7 2022 : 12:45PM
It's important to note that people do not pay a lot, they end up paying a lot for OnlyFans. Studios are assuming people are rational decision makers but they are not.

1. Micro payments is successful business model.
2. Libraries are valuable but exhibition generates most of revenue.
3. Strong schedule will generate more revenue than random surprises.


Alizee
Member

Natural beauty + NFT collector
906 Posts
11/21
Posted - Jan 7 2022 : 9:56PM
At least older scenes could be behind a paywall per video. I don't think anyone expects access to the past 10 years of professional porn by studioX in 4K for 30$ a month.
TopStoryToday
Deactivated User

569 Posts
4/20
Posted - Jan 8 2022 : 2:01AM
You are right - the studios are selling themselves short. Though I'd suggest the reverse; new releases be pay per video and library be priced at fix point. Experiment with few strong releases first (first anal / DP) and see how they do. Extra value by way of bts footage, bonus content, girl's interview etc would be nice, could be coupled with new release to make it special. I mean, how do you know if you do nothing? Look at the mainstream streaming sites they are still experimenting in radical ways where so much risk is involved.

 
TopStoryToday
Deactivated User

569 Posts
4/20
Posted - Jan 8 2022 : 2:08AM
It all boils down to belief in your ability at some point.

Why won't some sites sell lifetime subscriptions? Because they believe they can make more money by annual subscription. Same with sites that don't offer annual subscription and do only monthly. It is then a natural extension to say that you'd want to sell you new / strong scenes seperately - this is how is happens everywhere. OnlyFans has illustrated the success of micro payment model.

Also, there is night and day difference between pay per video and tiered subscriptions where lesser paying individuals feel they are at a disadvantage. I'd go with the former any day.

Edited by - Topstorytoday on 1/8/2022 2:14:29 AM

Angel Dark
Member

25 Posts
6/21
Posted - Jan 29 2022 : 8:22PM
Thanks....I feel its best to post a trailer. I know people want me to return to studios but I really enjoy the control OF gives me. I figure my hardcore fans will like the content I put on there and that's really what I'm doing it for....the connection with fans. I run both my free and VIP onlyfans so people are always talking directly with me. I would find it frustrating as a customer to be lied to (of course, if the performer is upfront I suppose its ok).
ao606
Deactivated User

1035 Posts
11/20
Posted - Feb 2 2022 : 9:21PM
Posted this over on the Kayden Kross thread, but thought it was relevant here as well: It's kind of a shame that you can't even talk to her, like actually her, on OnlyFans. When she first started it, it was kinda plainly obvious it was her (she used to describe her Internet problems, her descriptions for post were way more candid), and dare I say it, her price for BG customs was far more reasonable. But then, idk maybe coz of lack of time or whatever, she's since handed it off to OF support and since then, even though it's active, her price for customs has tripled. Sometimes I think that it might actually be detrimental to set such a high price for customs (that maybe 20 out of 100 subscribers would happily spend $500 for BG customs vs maybe 2 out of 100 would be able to afford $1500), but then I'm proven wrong by how many people will happily settle for lame solo customs where the girl will moan their name while pretending to orgasm, so I guess it just makes financial sense to charge that much.
PornDude69
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19 Posts
1/21
Posted - Mar 19 2022 : 8:23AM
It may be an unpopular opinion but Onlyfans is probably the worst thing that happened to Porn. So many hot Pornstars retired from the Business to sell shitty pics and clips that are mostly 5 Minutes or less if that. It´s pretty bad where the Business is heading.
pat362
Senior Member

10078 Posts
3/10
Posted - Mar 19 2022 : 12:10PM
^You mean tube and torrent sites who are literarily killing the industry aren't as bad as a platform that performers use to earn extra cash. How many performers had to join OF in the last 2 years because the pandemic made it impossible for them to earn money in an industry that was almost completely shutdown or where they couldn't even strip.

It's one thing to complain with OF's business model but please don't make it sound like it's the worse thing that happened to the industry because it's not. Heck in my book it's not even in the top 3 things that are worse.

aclayfan All-Star Supporter
All-Star Member

5059 Posts
8/11
Posted - Mar 19 2022 : 1:09PM
^
Extra cash? Increasingly, onlyfans has become many performers main source of income as they abandon studio porn.
pat362
Senior Member

10078 Posts
3/10
Posted - Mar 19 2022 : 2:07PM
^Let's say you are correct. How many performers who are currently only on OF are performers that were still in high demands with studios? No matter how popular a performer is with fans. At some point the phone stops to ring or the kind of call they get is for stuff they don't want to do or no longer want to do and I'm not necessarily talking about older performers who have done it all and therefore aren't getting many offers.

What do those women do when they are still young and porn was their main source of income but to transition to OF and camming. Esppecially OF when they hear all these anecdotes that you can make millions on OF.

Simple Simon
Senior Member

12302 Posts
2/15
Posted - Mar 20 2022 : 1:46AM
^ "when they hear all these anecdotes that you can make millions on OF".

Again I ask: What is this obsession with people openly bragging about all the money they've made on OF?

It makes it feel like the platform themselves are making them do this.

milfryder100
Member

30 Posts
3/22
Posted - Mar 20 2022 : 2:00AM
I agree. They may be making more money doing it but if you’re a big fan of say, Ava Addams, you won’t see her fuck on camera which is why they watched her in the first place, not asking you to pay to watch someone play with a dildo for 5 mins. I wish they would at least produce full length quality scenes that are at least 30 mins long for only fans if they are no longer shooting mainstream. Or at least do some mainstream shoots now and then while also doing only fans.

Edited by - milfryder100 on 3/20/2022 2:28:25 AM

Slector
Member

655 Posts
2/14
Posted - Mar 20 2022 : 5:06AM
Maybe it is more like the worst thing that ever happened to porn customers. If you don't watch out, OF will bleed you dry. I know it almost did for me. For a while there my porn budget had quadrupled to say the least. I had to finally quit OF cold turkey.
PornDude69
Deactivated User

19 Posts
1/21
Posted - Mar 20 2022 : 8:36AM
Yeah thats what i meant. Sure Tube/Torrent Sites are bad for the Studios even tho i think that making good Content will bring more People to pay and a lot of Studios are quick to take shit down. I think OF is bad for a Customer like me who sees his favs retiring from doing Scenes for Studios to sell short Clips that are boring and badly produced that is just not worth my Money. I never said that its a bad thing that they made Money during the Pandemic like pat362 aggressively pointed out. Good for them but that doesnt hide the fact that a lot of Pornstars now only sell their stuff on OF.
pat362
Senior Member

10078 Posts
3/10
Posted - Mar 20 2022 : 1:07PM
My opinion for why they do it because they get paid by OF to spew what I consider to be (in most cases) B.S. Let's be honest. If you make millions on OF as so many women claim then I would think that the last thing you would want to do is advertise it because that will just increase competition to a platform that is already super saturated and ultimately may cost you your ability to make those so called millions.
pat362
Senior Member

10078 Posts
3/10
Posted - Mar 20 2022 : 1:42PM
I don't want to pick on you but you make it sound like the main reason why tube and torrent sites are popular is because studios make bad porn but since tube and torrent sites live off the porn made by those studios then you are argument really doesn't work. Why would anyone watch bad porn even if it's free? I have membership to various sites but I only download the stuff that I like and skip the stuff they I don't.

Now where you and agree is that I think OF is bad for customers and bad may be too mild a word to use to describe OF as a whole. For one thing. You can only know how bad what you want is after you have already paid for it and since you often have to pay a fee to get access to the models page before you can get a chance to buy a video then you basically get shafted twice if the models free stuff is crap and the video no better. That said no one is forced to join any models OF account and therefore if you get burned then you have only yourself to blame. I am pretty sure that I'm missing on some good/great porn made by a select few OF models but I am certain that those few videos aren't worth my losing the hundreds or thousands of dollars it would cost me to find them in the first place.

Edited by - pat362 on 3/20/2022 1:51:40 PM

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I just discovered that a girl I follow charges me more for videos then she does other people. Has this happened to anyone else?
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Posted - Mar 21 2022 : 1:00PM
Its ok if you dont agree with me. That was just my opinion but dont put words in my mouth. I never said that the main reason why tube and torrent sites are popular is because studios make bad porn and i never got "burned" by a OF Model because i wanted to see what they offer. The main topic was that Pornstars that i like were retiring and now post clips that in my opinion are of bad quality.
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