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Jonny Jay All-Star Supporter
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Posted - May 30 2010 : 12:26PM
Spilt a drink over my laptop which made it shut down, since have dried it out but saying operating system cannot be found on start up, any suggestions?
HeyNow All-Star Supporter
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Posted - May 30 2010 : 12:53PM
Sorry, Jay, the only thing I could think of was this...
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...but I'm sure you'll get some help from one of our gurus.
RandomPrecision
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Enjoy!
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Posted - May 30 2010 : 1:40PM
Sounds like maybe you fried your hard drive or the hard drive controller. Just a guess. If your OS isn't found, it's likely the hard drive isn't working.
Harri Patel
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Posted - May 30 2010 : 1:47PM
Maybe there is still some moisture where the data cable plugs into the hard drive?
Harri Patel
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Posted - May 30 2010 : 2:32PM
. . . or at the other end of the cable?
 
Jonny Jay All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jun 1 2010 : 3:50AM
Thanks guys, looking like a new hard drive is needed.
RandomPrecision
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Enjoy!
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Posted - Jun 1 2010 : 8:37AM
I would not go and buy a new hard drive until you know for sure. They aren't cheap. If you're mechanically inclined, you should probably try and take the laptop apart, disconnect all the hard drive cables, remove the hard drive and let everything sit for a few days where any water that may be inside there anywhere can evaporate.
If you have any doubts at all as to your ability to do this, you should probably take it to the shop. But it may be a lost cause. You may well have fried something important. What kind of laptop is it? You should try and find instructions for disassembling it online before you do anything. I'm pretty sure laptops use different hard drives than desktops.
Edited by - randomprecision on 6/1/2010 8:41:37 AM
Jonny Jay All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jun 1 2010 : 3:46PM
Thanks Random, will try your drying out method before buying anything. The laptop is an Acer TravelMate 5720 will look online for disassembling instructions.
jrsl76
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Posted - Jun 2 2010 : 10:57PM
Well I had this happen to my laptop and a miracle worker I know was able to bring it back from the dead. It only lasted 4 more months though. The logic board was fucked.
BadKarma
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Posted - Jun 3 2010 : 1:21AM
I'm assuming this laptop is a Windoz PC?
I'm also assuming this laptop has as cd/dvd reader/writer and/or floppy disc of some persuasion.
If you have any other boot media (cd/dvd/floppy?) try to boot from that if you can.
If you don't have any boot media but have access to another PC with a DVD burner you can download
a Linux boot image and burn it to a DVD and try to boot that. (I recommend Knoppix). http://www.knoppix.com/
You can run Linux from the dvd and it will not touch/modify your harddrive in any way.
If you can boot the Knoppix DVD then you can use Linux to diagnose your hardware. "lspci" will give a list of all
the PCI devices on the PCI bus, including the disk controller, if its still working. This will tell you whether its the
drive controller or the actual disk drive that's walked the plank.
I know this sounds like a "lot of work", but you windup with an emergency boot dvd which will allow you to
troubleshoot any future hardware issues.
DISCLAIMER:
I know the Windoz fan boyz hate Linux and turn their noses up at the mere mention of it. BUT a Linux boot DVD
will save your ass in some situations, its easy enough to learn the few commands necessary to check hardware, and
its FREE
Hope this helps -- and don't drink anything near an open laptop!
Edited by - badkarma on 6/3/2010 1:23:09 AM
Edited by - badkarma on 6/3/2010 1:24:00 AM
Jonny Jay All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jun 3 2010 : 1:40AM
^Great advice and much appreciated.
RandomPrecision
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Enjoy!
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Posted - Jun 3 2010 : 7:52PM
I guess you could call me a Windoz fan boy on many levels but I don't hate Linux. And you are right about the utility of having a Linux boot DVD as a backup. But last time I used Ubuntu, the transition between Windows and Linux was very jarring. I even had problems getting my video card to work properly. And when I went to the Linux help forums, the people there were very smug and unhelpful. I keep an Ubuntu disc at all times for just the reason you mentioned. And I eventually figured out how to do most of what I needed to do with Ubuntu but it was not easy.
People who like Windows like it because it's easy to use, widely supported and they're accustomed to the way things work on an MS system. Linux is anything but friendly. The learning curve can be steep depending on what you want to do with it. The best things about it are that it's free and you can use it without installing it.
BadKarma
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Posted - Jun 4 2010 : 3:05AM
I guess we're going to have to agree to disagree on this point, but I "grew up" using Unix, so I admit I'm biased.
I haven't used a Windows system in years, so I have no opinion on it's ease of use. I do admit that I'm no fan
of Microsoft as a company -- or producer of quality (read "bug free") software.
Unfortunately I think this is a impression given off by some people claiming to be Linux "experts" who are
actually not that knowledgeable. Since they don't know how to answer your questions they imply that its you
who's at fault. The only thing to do is try to find a more "newbie" friendly forum to post your questions.
As for Ubuntu, its okay, but a tad bloated for a rescue DVD. There are much smaller distributions which will
fit on a CD and will allow troubleshooting and repair without all the detritus of a full Linux distribution.
"distrowatch.com" is your friend here.
Regards.



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