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Posted - Jun 10 2016 : 5:59PM
Can anyone recommend any scenes where immediately following the painal, the girl is forced to undergo a polygraph examination to make sure that she wasn't faking or exaggerating her discomfort, or, worse yet, that it didn't hurt at all and she actually enjoyed it? Thanks.
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Jun 10 2016 : 6:08PM
I'm looking for a scene where the woman is having painful anal sex while falling down some stairs or being thrown from a car. If it is painful anal sex in a trash compactor that would be ideal. Please let me know ASAP.
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Posted - Jun 11 2016 : 2:14AM
^ A former member keeps getting it bumped to the first page. (before getting his post removed and account banned) Ironic since he's so vehemently against the topic.
^ It's a handy indicator of character types, at least. But yes, not a great way to start the day. Perhaps there's value in checking in once in a while to say "this is bad."
I'm wondering why the people that makes the most noise about the threads they like and ask others to quit when they do not agree with their view doesn't hold on making the same things they accused others to do in the first instance. I do not like another threads, and I sttopped to reading them after some exchange debates.
Michaela Borovska aka Misel: http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/michaelabor.html Anal-Sex 14 scene 3 (I think Climax was the euro editor), interesting scene on the bathroom.
It's the difference between girls who like it and those who don't. Girls who are in pain and don't want to be should not be forced. Why is it even necessary to have to explain this?
I would like to ask fans of this thread to name their favorite scenes of this type and why . I imagine the most popular are Aspen Brock's Gangbang Auditions 3 scene , or Kacey Kox , Bring Em Young 2 and 8 , Gangbang Auditions 7 , Gangland 33 or just about any scene with Kacey and DP . My favorite go-to and re-watchable scenes : Melody Jordan , as Rachel on exploitedcollegegirls.com . Great use of a split screen in doggy , as she's penetrated her face shows a clear look of difficulty , and a wonderful eye's fluttering open and her mouth making a sexy "Oh" shape . Dee , from the related backroomcastingcouch . Cute little brunette , bent over a desk and her face says not so bad , ummm , oh boy to Ow ! Jenna Haze , two scenes . Whack Attack 12 with Mark Davis .One of her early anal scenes ,as she's on her back on a couch Mark slowly inserts himself , and her facial expressions are wonderful . From smiling and giggling (genuine chemistry) to little flinches of pain and difficulty , yet she clearly is loving the scene . Nasty Nymphos 32 with Erik Everhard and Jon Dough , perhaps her first DP , and I think unplanned . As Erik enters her ass sidesaddle , again beautiful looks on her face and a classic "God your cock feels so big in my ass" that sounded very real . Syren Smile , cute Brunette with a nice bush . Nasty Nymphos 29 with Lex . Genuinely difficult ,gee , I wonder why ? Again , very sexy real expressions on her face and the way her body responds involuntarily . Aspen , cute Russian girl , her first scenes from the assteenmouth etc sites . Her assteenmouth scene , she's bent over on a couch and arching her back and her head being thrown back with the slow intense insertion .
I reply in simple sentences then, If you do not agree/like it, do not buy/read it. I hope you get the faintest idea what I'm saying now. No need to be rude when others do not share your same ideas about what should be liked or no in porn. Some people like BDSM, others like spitting, tattoos have it niche too, the solution in this thread is quite simple, since they are profesionals and nobody is posting rape/sadism/ illegal scenes because that is not what we discuss here, no one save a few complaint about it. I will not be coming into one on the examples I just exposed and ask in any of that threads to be closed because they are not of my liking, and there are tons of topics I do not agree in this forum, I discussed in a few politely, people got angry because they did not like my comments, so now I'm saying in a nice manner, If you are not interested in this topic, why you read it or protest about it's contents?, simply ignore it, and read/comment on the ones that are more into what is more interesting to you. Peace and regards.
I'll try one more time. BDSM and the other genres you mention will normally have a girl who consents to being hurt and has a safe word for when it gets too much. What disturbs me and some others is that some of the people in this thread seem to enjoy it when the girl does NOT consent to the pain and the man in question carries on anyway. That is why this thread is different to others where you could quite rightly say 'if you don't enjoy it don't watch it'. If I see a man hurting a woman against her will I will either call the police, or punch him in the face. Presumably, if he doesn't like the pain I can carry on hitting him - right?
As it is in all the industry, and the few exceptions that are there usually end in some court or with lawyers at some point. I remember some comment about a producer who did what you said and a few ones in the forum quickly replied to the poster, that this producer was in jail because his illegal activities. And that's my point here,ILLEGAL ACTIVITY, we all know that a director/studio that doesn´t respect their performers will not last long, nobody here encourages that sort of thing. BTW, if the performer is gagged in a BDSM scn or similar 90% of the time she/he will be unable to say the proper word unless the other performer interrupt the act and ask or they had agreed to another form of signal for stop (the Rocco slaves scene some one posted is an example, she said the wrong safe word and the male performer asked her for the correct just in case, she said it and all ended like started in a flash). You don't like it, we all get it, nobody talked in this thread about non consented sex save you, and that is not the point of all these comments, in fact, most of the scenes posted here are largely faked once you watched them with attention, and the few ones that are real usually ended when: a) performer says so b) director cut the scene (that happens a lot and is for a reason, you are watching on scene see that things are starting to get heated and 1 second after it start you get a clear cut with new action) c) performer keeps on even against any reason (Charley Chase in an interview admitted once that during on scene in some film the male performer where all fast in doggy he came out her cunt and in the hurry he slammed it in the wrong hole, she said it hurted like hell but she did not say anything because they where filming with a red light (no idea what she meant with that) was before her only anal in another movie), what I'm trying to point is that most of the times the performers keep going on for their only personal reason, and we as customers watch with morbid curiosity about the event. There are some really damaging threads, with some practices and tittles that are really what you are complaining around, I do not like shemale sex, but that doesn't make me complain about it, simply I'll avoid the threads, everyone happy, because I respect that others will feel interest in it. Triple anal is more damaging, and there are a few threads from a very popular site in this forum where what you imply in your comment shows on every now and then, and nearly anybody will post anything about them in here. The thread tittle is more noise than the real thing. As I said earlier in a polite tone, do not read it if you don't like it, live your lives and sexuality the way you are happy with, and do not try to imposse your point of view on others, or bring morality issues about sex, because everybody is unique in is own way, religious zealots have fixed opinion about sex, politicians in election time had another, professionals in the industry have their own, and each customer, well, you only have to read ADT to get the idea. Keep in mind that most of this forum purpose is about fantasies of every kind. Peace and regards.
There is a difference between sexual fantasies in one's head and sexual fantasies enacted in the material world. There is also a difference between the fantasy enactment of sexual pain and the actual infliction of unwanted pain during a sexual act. Distinctions of these kinds have moral significance. Do you not see this or do you just not care?
Moral issues are always point of dissent, what is ok for you could not be ok for another person and so on, your opinion is valuable and so should be others, and because you don't like something it doesnt make you right, as I said in my previous comment, I do not like lot of things commented on this forum and you won't see me complaining about them, I simply ignore them. There are people who doesn't like anal sex, but others like it, for every example you point to me about something you like I surely could find a counter. I do not agree with your opinios in this matter but I respect them, I only ask in our dissention the you do the same with this thread, and if you are not comfortable with it, solution is quite simple, nobody is talking about anything illegal here or forcing anyone to read it contents, so please let it go and enjoy posts more in consonance with your sexual preferences. Regards and have a good day.
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Jun 15 2016 : 6:28PM
Wrong, people are talking about assault in this thread, perhaps even rape. That is illegal and unethical even if charges aren't brought. By your logic a CP thread would be acceptable, just don't look at it. Morals are always a point of dissent, etc. Edited by - BlackSix on 6/15/2016 6:34:38 PM
You're using the Texas shaprshooter logical fallacy here. You are taking something illegal (CP) and comparing it to something legal (adults performing analsex) - What were you thinking? I'm certainly not speaking for everyone in this thread and I don't get kicks from seeing women or men get hurt, but several of you arguing against painful analsex, do so by clutching at straws and use cherry picking for your arguments. You have to consider that the women in most of the scenes mentioned in this thread, not only went through with it, but accepted the pain to get their paychecks. The movies were edited, distributed and sold. Many of them years old. Do you think their pain is re-lived each time we see the scene? Some of these women only made a few scenes and that's it - But the fact remains: They agreed to the sex and they got paid. It's not rape, it's not force and they certainly weren't minors. If anything, what turns me on about this type of sex, is the bravery and honesty of these females. They performed well and they went through, despite the pain. And as other members here have mentioned - What's your stance on performers in BDSM and spanking? Don't you think it's controversial enduring so much physical pain that their bodies are bruised from the act? Reflect on that or avoid threads like these...Because seriously, applying moral in a porn forum discussing legal matters is just ironic.
I usually just try to stay on topic and not let the trolls get to me in this thread but I gotta say it's laughable someone with a 5 digit post count on a porn message board is trying to take a moral high ground...
He probably sees it, but dismissed the idea as a false choice fallacy. There is also a second distinction to be made between acts of free will and acts of coercion, wouldn't you also agree, and further that it is that third class that is most significant in free societies? And I do believe that you mean "ethical significance", not "moral significance"; ethics can be debated, morals cannot. Anyway, it's sad that there are subdivisions even among us perverts, all of whom should know better than to judge his fellow, lest he be judged himself.
A big, fat +1 for balbars. One cannot read, or even become aware of the existence of, these posts unless one performs the affirmative action of clicking on a link called "painful ass fuckin". PAINFUL ASS FUCKIN. If you don't appreciate PAINFUL ASS FUCKIN, then why would you enter a forum that any reasonable person would have to assume is full of people that do?! The wittiest argument against will convert absolutely no one, but will surely annoy a good many. Why not start a topic called "Those misogynists in the 'painful ass fuckin' forum" that I can then ignore, just as I wish some of you all would this one?
You really don't see any irony, at all, do you? There are some who would say the same to you for watching sexual acts of any sort at all, even with no anal poundage, which in a moral context should be reserved for procreation within a loving relationship duly consecrated by something like marriage. You are to them just as objectionable as the painful ass fuckers are to you, and really the difference is one of degree, not type. Lighten up, you are MUCH closer to the painful ass fuckers than you are to any person who could actually live on a porn forum without being a hypocrite. Much closer.
Ask and you will be pleased, after all the trolling of the past few days, I decided to wait a few days before saying anything else, but I want to thank all the ones that supported my arguments here. I do not want to enter in a flame war with people who use moral to criticize sex preferences from others, and some of those guys had wrote a few hard lines in several post around the forum that will be debatable at least. As i said earlier, we all like sex but everyone have his/her personal preferences, and unless doing anything illegal or the like, choose your game and respect others choices. Returning to the matter at had, I recommend Cassey Calvert first DAP on Hard X, scene was released in October or November 2014 not sure.
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Jun 17 2016 : 11:18AM
Sorry this is weak sauce. The difference between BDSM and this is clear and already addressed by cormac earlier in the thread. And as I don't come from a sexually puritan culture I don't see any 'irony' about addressing ethics on a porn forum. I don't see anything unethical or immoral about the filming of consensual sex between adults, apparently from your and others comments in this thread you do? That would explain the attraction to the theme of this thread then. As to my post count and why I view this thread. ADT is a community I enjoy and as such have a right to post here. There was a thread of beastiality once on ADT, should everyone just ignore it allow those who 'enjoy' it post in peace? This is not an 'appreciation' thread and doesn't get some pass from dispute or mockery, this is a forum for discussion. And just because someone signed a contract after the fact doesn't clear the viewer of such material from ethical questions after the fact about why they want to view it. If someone signed a contract for Ogrish would that make it okay?
Keeping with the thread main theme, I post another scene, movie name was Wealth and deception, scene performed by Shawna Lenee, I think her only anal, the first shoot was in reverse cowgirl, but her second attempt was in sidle side, short ride but very interesting to watch.
Fine. But Black Six is right about this being a forum for full and frank discussion. I opened this thread to see what it contained; if ADT was only for appreciation threads then we wouldn't have stuf like 'What do you Hate in Porn.
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Posted - Jun 17 2016 : 1:45PM
^say what you like, however, threads dedicated to "how hurt did the girl get in the scene" are just not right and should be challenged. For those if you who are unclear, this thread is not a bout hard deep anal sex or something like that. It is about the excitement of seeing a woman intentionally hurt and continue the scene either against her will or just to get the paycheck.
Then let's us challenge all the threads that promote sites in which their actress are slapped, spitted on, beated and so on, just not focus in this one, lets talk about, just any director or male performers who did that should be hanged on and directors/producers who take pride in such acts should be banned also. In this forum are a bunch of those, right? Why don't we go further, lets ostracize DP, DAP, Triple penetration (for name a few ones) and only encourage sex with preservatives, there's also a thread of people enjoyng anal gapes and another asking about performers seffering rectal issues in set, and i did not see any of you compalining in there or in the BDSM ones either, for God sake, take a rest and live your lives guys!!. This comment is sarcasm if no one noticed before, as a few of you say this is a free forum, please take your moral dilemmas out of the thread and enjoy whatever you do instead of coming here with hypocrite claims about the welfare of female performers while at the same time are encouraging or demanding hard sex scenes from other producers which include triple anal and the like, because that's turns you on. As you can see your arguments can be turned the other way too. Peace and regards.
You're STILL missing the point. And this is my last contribution. All those types of sex you describe are CONSENSUAL with regard to whatever pain is being dished out. In this thread you seem to be revelling in pain that is NON-CONSENSUAL.
Yo don't know which point is mine, and I do not care, you think you are right, I do not agree with you, that's is called life. Even one performer has agreed with the ones that comment on this thread main fact, not much time ago, but I'm going to spell it quite clearly because it seem you did not read one of my replies on the subject: a) Any performer on every scene commented on this post agreed to do that scene, some keep on, other stop as soon as they do not agree, whichever they do in the end THEY CARRY ON b) Directors (at least the ones with two bit cents of brain) cut scenes if they film something that wasn't planned, performers collected their check and carry on, a few quit the industry, others keep acting in it THEIR CHOICE AGAIN c) Directors/Producers that ignore their performers protests usually end suited by lawyers, and If some one posted an illegal scene in this thread that is remotely illegal, a few ones will protest at the offender to do not post that again d) 99% of the scenes commented here are fake or the performer agreed to a rough scene because she wanted to do it that in any court of law is called CONSENSUAL SEX e) 1% of the scenes are not fake, and are not edited, those are very short because you know what?, either the performers or the director say to stop it, or the performer did not stopped it (AGAIN CONSENSUAL SEX) f) Getting 3 cocks up your ass is probably not very enjoyable regardless the face you put on camera, but a lot of people are demanding it, and some performers regardless the pain in the ass they get take the check and go for it and no one of you guys is defending that girls rights. So please save us the hypocrisy, because a few of the ones making more complaining here are firmly supporters of directors/producers that have in a lot of films in their careers slapped, spitted, insulted or degraded in many ways her female performers only to get praise of their fans. There's another thread speaking of prolapses (another painful result of anal sex), one about things you hate in porn ( hint: could post your protest in there). As i said earlier, for every example argument you post here against I can show at least 5 counter examples in this forum without much effort searching. g) Is impossible to read all the threads in this forum and agree with the themes proposed, and everyone have a personal opinion on sexual matters, but trying to bring morality into a legal sex act is like fighting fire with oil, it will not work and only will ensure more fire in the end. Of course you are entitled to get your opinion in this matter like any others, but do not try to act superior to that same people while encouraging other debatable sex acts in another threads. Peace and regards Edited by - balbars on 6/17/2016 3:59:40 PM
You are just like Black Six avoiding certain factors, and clutching for straws. People's sexual preferences are in their minds, you cannot change that unless it's a psychiatric diagnosis which requires help. There's a difference beteen fantasy, depiction and actually doing it. Do you regard the audience as bad as the performer? What about the guy inflicting the anal pain on a woman, is he evil? I really don't want to nag about it, but you guys are still missing the point from us arguing for the material - Not about hurting women physically and enjoying it: 1. The anal scenes were made by conscent, if not then the movies would be banned and the production team prosecuted. 2. The performers are not involved in illegal activities - The movies were cleared by the authorities and sold. 3. The performers were compensated financially. Also to Black Six - I don't know what you meant by the Ogrish contract, performance? If it's an adult's conscent, it's an adult's conscent. Simple as that.
Have the people who have been pissing and moaning about this thread ever thought to contact a mod to lock it since it is in violation of the spirit of the forum? Or have you all been clutching your pearls and hoping that no one ever talks about painful anal sex ever again?
This thread have been around for years, since no Admin banned/locked it, it is clear that there is no break of the rules. Also to Jerka .S, +100, thank you very much, you put in lesser words what I've been trying to explain for a few days, while some people keep trying to find false loopholes to prove they are morally right when is not the case. Peace and regards.
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Posted - Jun 17 2016 : 6:46PM
Dont Feed them. Dont Feed them. Dont Feed them. And hope they will get bored and leave.
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