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Kensington Chapp
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Posted - Jan 7 2008 : 6:58PM
Anybody advise against buying a NTSC camcorder?
My primary concern is will the DVDs I burn with the footage work on PAL equipment?
cheers
conquistador
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Hellhamster.
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Posted - Jan 7 2008 : 7:08PM
Where do you live? Localization is the big stumbling point between PAL and NTSC
ma meeshka
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Posted - Jan 8 2008 : 6:15AM
depending on your software, you might be able to convert it from ntsc to pal before you burn. you'll probably lose something in the quality, but you can do it.
what kind of tv do you have?
i live in a pal region but my tv is ntsc compatible. so is my dvd player.
need more info.
Kensington Chapp
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Posted - Jan 9 2008 : 2:08PM
I'm in the UK, everything I've seen is PAL.
If I shoot porn in HD (NTSC camera) and transfer the footage to computer in MPEG-2 format, could I convert the Mpeg to .avi or .wmv and burn to DVD, to use on PAL DVD players?
conquistador
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Hellhamster.
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Posted - Jan 9 2008 : 2:15PM
From what I can tell with my DVD authoring programs and experience you shouldn't have any trouble with the conversion.
 
RandomPrecision
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Enjoy!
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Posted - Jan 9 2008 : 5:01PM
If you're in the UK, you're probably gonna be better off just starting out with the PAL format in the first place. I guess you're planning on making porn? How much of it are you making for the UK? Is it mostly intended for the US or what?
ninja1
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Posted - Jan 9 2008 : 8:52PM
Yes, if the DVD player is capable of playing .avi or .wmv files.
The avi(Divx) capability is fairly common in newer DVD players, but wmv capability is relatively rare.
RandomPrecision
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Enjoy!
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Posted - Jan 9 2008 : 10:22PM
I have Divx capability on my DVD player but I don't like it. It's kinda glitchy (Samsung model) and doesn't list the files in order.
Kensington Chapp
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Posted - Jan 10 2008 : 2:21PM
Thank you, gentlemen.
The porn is for the whole world. What do american porn studios do to their porn to make it region free and all that? How come they don't have PAL or NTSC crap on them?

I really shouldn't be here

ninja1
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Posted - Jan 10 2008 : 8:38PM
The origins of the PAL/NTSC is because of technical differences in how broadcast television signal is transmitted, received by antenna, then displayed on a television. Some parts of the world did it one way (NTSC); other parts of the world did it another way (PAL). Hence, 2 versions of TV's exist.
So...any device which sends images to a TV will have to take into account the NTSC/PAL issue. VCR makers produced NTSC VCR's and PAL VCR's. Moviemakers produced VHS tapes in NTSC version and PAL version. Likewise with camcorders. Now, with DVD players and DVD discs, the same (NTSC/PAL) condition exists.
DVD production companies produce PAL or NTSC format depending on where is customer base located. Because USA is NTSC territory, USA-made DVD's are NTSC. I don't know the detailed geographic map of where is PAL and where is NTSC.
But...many(most?) DVD players have the capability to play both NTSC and PAL discs. And many(most?) DVD players have the capability to display to both NTSC and PAL televisions.
ALL the above discussion applies ONLY to factory-pressed DVD's. For DVD's made on a computer or dvd burner, in DVD+/-R format, the PAL/NTSC does not exist.
Oh...and the region code is a completely different thing, unrelated to NTSC/PAL.
Kensington Chapp
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Posted - Jan 11 2008 : 12:46PM
Gracias, ninja.
Your noble yet lethal ways are to be commended.

I had my fun and that's all that matters.

conquistador
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Hellhamster.
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Posted - Jan 11 2008 : 1:07PM
Hey ninja, thanks for the well written post.
It made want to look up the regions.
Region 01
U.S., U.S. Territories, Canada
Region 02
Albania, Andorra, Austria, Bahrain, Belarus, Belgium, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Canary Islands, Croatia, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Egypt, Estonia, European Union, Faroe Islands, Finland, France, France, Georgia, Germany, Gibraltar, Greece, Greenland, Hungary, Iceland, Iran (Islamic Republic of) Iraq, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Japan, Jordan, Kuwait, Latvia, Lebanon, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Macedonia (the Former Yugoslav Republic), Malta, Moldova, Principality of Monaco, Netherlands, Norway, Oman, Poland, Portugal, Qatar, Romania, Russian Federation, San Marino, Saudi Arabia, Slovakia, Slovenia,South Africa, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Syrian Arab Republic, Turkey, Ukraine, United Arab Emirates, United Kingdom, United Kingdom (Channel Islands) Vatican City State, Yemen, Yugoslavia
Region 03
Southeast Asia, East Asia (including Hong Kong)
Region 04
Australia, New Zealand, Pacific Islands, Central America, Mexico, South America, Caribbean
Region 05
Former Soviet Union, Indian Subcontinent, Africa (also North Korea, Mongolia)
Region 06
China
Region 07
Reserved
Region 08
Special international venues (airplanes, cruise ships, etc.)
Kensington Chapp
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Posted - Jan 12 2008 : 1:56PM
I've been reading about this, and it seems that NTSC & PAL are resolution terms, as in lines of resolution.
If one shoots porn in HD, NTSC and PAL have no bearing on it at all.
Only if one shoots in SD mode on a HD camera.

I had my fun and that's all that matters.

Joey Starr
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Posted - Jan 12 2008 : 2:30PM
You forgot two :
Region 0 : No Region Coding
Region 9 : Expansion (often used as region free)
Bill All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jan 12 2008 : 3:23PM
That's not completely true. While PAL & NTSC do have different resolutions, they also have different refresh rates. PAL is 50 frames per second and NTSC is 60 frames per second. When shooting in HD, downconversion eventually has to take place in order to create an SD DVD. To downconvert to NTSC, the resolution needs to be reduced. To downconvert to PAL, along with a reduction in resolution (which isn't as big of a reduction as with NTSC), the number of frames per second also need to be reduced.
 
Kensington Chapp
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Posted - Jan 12 2008 : 6:55PM
Can one choose to downconvert to either PAL or NTSC?
I just bought a HD NTSC camcorder, and I live in a PAL region. Butt I also read that most PAL DVD players also play NTSC...
Bill All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jan 12 2008 : 10:02PM
That's true. It's becoming more likely that NTSC players will play PAL discs. It all depends on what player you have.
cubesnake
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Posted - Jan 13 2008 : 3:16PM



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