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| ultimate_sperminator Deactivated User 837 Posts 12/12 |  Posted - Jul 19 2015 : 9:37AMShare your thoughts about this topic. Lots of girls would love to swallow more cum but many studios don´t let them. [Link] |
| danc23 Member 636 Posts 3/08 | Posted - Jul 19 2015 : 9:43AM [Link] |
AKperv  All-Star Member 1255 Posts 4/14 | Posted - Jul 19 2015 : 2:35PM [Link] |
| I P Freely Member 335 Posts 10/11 | Posted - Jul 19 2015 : 10:15PM [Link] |
| vladimir25 Member 104 Posts 1/12 | Posted - Jul 19 2015 : 10:22PM Edited by - vladimir25 on 7/19/2015 10:22:52 PM [Link] |
| wanka Senior Member 1678 Posts 5/13 | Posted - Jul 20 2015 : 3:50AM [Link] |
| Simple Simon Senior Member 12302 Posts 2/15 | Posted - Jul 20 2015 : 4:36AM [Link] |
| Requiemxx80 Member 237 Posts 3/11 | Posted - Jul 20 2015 : 10:20AM Brandon, do anything please ^^ I know you don't want money, but what ? A time machine ? [Link] |
| ultimate_sperminator Deactivated User 837 Posts 12/12 | Posted - Jul 20 2015 : 11:02AM Make things happen! [Link] |
| N00dlesDaddy Senior Member Layla...got me on my knees... 1793 Posts 7/13 | Posted - Jul 21 2015 : 3:43PM [Link] |
| datthemovies Member 6 Posts 4/13 | Posted - Jul 21 2015 : 6:25PM Edited by - killbillvol69 on 7/21/2015 6:26:32 PM [Link] |
| Hardware All-Star Member Your other left 14595 Posts 3/02 | Posted - Jul 21 2015 : 6:53PM [Link] |
| mirranda75 Member 95 Posts 6/15 | Posted - Jul 22 2015 : 4:51AM [Link] |
| danc23 Member 636 Posts 3/08 | Posted - Jul 26 2015 : 10:54AM Because unfortunately that's what the majority of porn consumers want these days - just read the threads on here. People go crazy over a girl doing anal or interracial - go back 10 years and this was the bare mininum of a porn production. Girls wouldn't bat an eye-lid at doing a scene where they swallow 5/10 loads - it was pretty normal. Now there would be a national holiday & studios would hype it up for 12 months. Porn has changed, and not for the better. Whether the studios/directors are to blame for lowering expectations & producing such generic, vanilla porn or consumers are to blame for accepting it, who knows. [Link] |
| jeffandersonn Deactivated User 1605 Posts 3/13 | Posted - Jul 26 2015 : 4:28PM Jules Jordan "swallow" blowbangs in all these years were a total disaster. - Asa akira in invasian 4, failed to swallow all at once, plus she was upside down during the popshots and the camera angle was horrible -In Insatiable Miss Saint same thing. - Romi rain blowbang same thing, dark, and wrong postion of the girl and the camera at the end. -Alexis ford darkside was a "good one", but too dark and the camera was out of focus during all the cumshots. Unwatchable. But at least she swallowed - Feeding Frenzy 11, in the scene of Riley reid and Jada stevens few drops of cum swallowed, Lisa ann and kendra lust swallowed from a glass in a blink of an eye....so basically we watched for 2 minuts the guys jerking off in a glass and that's it. No open mouth, no cum play, nothing. - Alina Li blowbang, she swallowed from a glass - kennedy leigh's blowbang could have been really good but only 4 guys and 2 of them delivered an almost invisible popshot - Upcoming blowbang of samantha saint & Juelz ventura ruined again by that stupid glass. Jules Shot remarkable Swallow blowbangs in the past but now i do not have faith in him anymore. I've got a chance to watch some of Anatomik media works and all i have to say is that they need to learn how to use a camera. Wrong Position and angles, problem with the focus, a lot of hype but girls didn't swallow so much, a lot of cum play until they wasted everything. Jonni Darkko seems to be interested in the swallowing concept and the last wet food ( wet food 6 ) was definitely a good title. after years of waiting finally a good one. He hired lots of guys, but they didn't care to cum right in girls mouth, so the final result was a little weak. The next one could be better if he cares about details. And stop changing the camera angles during the cumshots....no reason to do that. MIke John/von swine do not produce blowbangs anymore, they made some serious stuff, but unfortunately available only in crap dvd quality Erik everhard produced at least 2 glorious titles: A sperm load a day keeps the doctor away 1& 2, but he's gone THE MAN to me is Brandon Iron. He found the right Formula. No Hype, No mega Villas, Pool, etc....just a simple room were girls suck cocks and wait on their knees with open mouth and eyes wide open. But unfortunately too many years ago, and video quality sucks compared to the HD/ ultraHD of these days. I'd like to find a way to fund Brandon Iron because he knows exactly how to produce the perfect swallow blowbang. [Link] |
| datthemovies Member 6 Posts 4/13 | Posted - Jul 26 2015 : 10:05PM [Link] |
| pornjunkieguy Member 16 Posts 2/14 | Posted - Jul 26 2015 : 11:38PM I've read many excuses like "its too expensive" or " "not enough reliable guys" that the directors throw out there. Like I get it if you're not into producing that stuff but the excuses are annoying. All you need is a girl willing to do it and 20 or 30 mopes with blue balls that haven't jizzed in a couple days or weeks. There are so many perverted weirdos out there your telling me you can't find reliable guys that are willing to come out and get STD test and blow their load in a girls mouth? It's not rocket science to jerk off in a girls mouth. If the Germans (GGG) and the Spanish (puta locura) can put on a good sperm show why the hell not in America? But whatever keep producing the same vanilla bullshit. Won't get my money. [Link] |
| von_swine Member Dominance & Persecution. 919 Posts 1/04 | Posted - Jul 27 2015 : 3:17AM it shouldn't be that hard should it? c'mon guys, show ME something...lol. lates, von S. [Link] |
| Regick Member 618 Posts 1/15 | Posted - Jul 27 2015 : 2:54PM The only downside is the scenes are Stream Only right now, no Downloads. [Link] |
| pornjunkieguy Member 16 Posts 2/14 | Posted - Jul 28 2015 : 12:30AM Yes Mr. Vone Swine, We see that one needs steady hands for the camera and nice lights to make the picture perfect, and it isn't something you just figure out right away. That's cool. I mean isn't that what porn directors are suppose to have figured out? What are you trying to accomplish with your response? How hard and difficult it is to make a cum swallowing movie compared to other types of porn? We are just fans, directors are suppose to already know about things like lighting and camera work. It's like telling a car manufacturer "Hey this is a shit car and we're not gonna buy it" and then they tell their customers "Well, why don't you people get together and try to build your own fucking car! Don't you understand all the logistics and effort it takes to make a car! You ignorant assholes!" But like I've said before, if this type of production is too much of a pain in the ass to you, no ones forcing you to do it. Maybe someone else will, or maybe no one will. Whatever! There are currently different people from different places making this type of porn. I will support them as much as I can. I just think it would be nice to see something like that more consistently in American porn again. Sorry. [Link] |
| von_swine Member Dominance & Persecution. 919 Posts 1/04 | Posted - Jul 28 2015 : 3:53AM pornjunkieguy wrote: [/quote] What are you trying to accomplish with your response? [/quote] I was actually trying to inspire all of you 'fans' to get together and make your own brand of porno that you're all so thirsty for.. that's all. but here, let me entertain a few of your bullet points in your reply.. swallow movies being too hard to make; they're not too hard,..as I've made plenty. it's not like the degree of difficulty for the actual handheld shooting is the problem. it's all of the pieces needed to complete the chessboard and play. well, that AND the $$$.. which takes me to the next point here,.. cost effectiveness; ok, so if I absolutely am DYING to prove I can still make a dominant group swallow movie, but am well aware ahead of time that it's not cost effective for me to INDEPENDENTLY produce it, should I still do it? am I in the market to produce vanity projects now? am I trying to get suicidal with my business moves here?.. lol. put it like this, why don't you have a steak at a restaurant for lunch everyday and see how long it takes for that to affect your overall financial stability... look, here is the crux of why I responded; people who forged the swallow & blowbang genre (of which I am one of) will sometimes be COMPLETELY honest as to why they don't create those types of scenes/movies any longer and yet you all still scoff at what we say. that's infuriating,... who's career(s) are we talking about anyways? not yours, for sure. why would we lie? I've done everything in my power to be candid and honest about my career and here I see a thread w/this balderdash about us being lazy, disinterested or un-motivated over things in XXX that we helped purvey and in some cases even create. you have any idea how irritating that is? almost as irritating as seeing porno change the way it has, and not in our favor.. if/when your vocation is drastically changed or taken away from you, please think of what you had to say here.... because I won't have anything to say about your plight since you're not in an arena of perpetual judgment where the peanut gallery seems to know more than the actual creators. look, I love you guys... but when we tell you how it is, believe it. lates, von S. [Link] |
| Drecksau Deactivated User 472 Posts 10/11 | Posted - Jul 28 2015 : 11:14PM how come all those great swallow movies were possible AND frequently made back in the time of "Good Source of Iron" BUT are now declared as a suicidal move if you try to make such a movie nowadays... What exactly is the big problem here? performers asking for more money? more xxx content = more competition because of the rise of the internet? please enlighten me lates, Drecksau [Link] |
| von_swine Member Dominance & Persecution. 919 Posts 1/04 | Posted - Jul 28 2015 : 11:58PM Drecksau wrote: [/quote] What i don't get is: how come all those great swallow movies were possible AND frequently made back in the time of "Good Source of Iron" BUT are now declared as a suicidal move if you try to make such a movie nowadays... What exactly is the big problem here? performers asking for more money? more xxx content = more competition because of the rise of the internet? please enlighten me lates, Drecksau [/quote] those are both actually part of the problem. plus, 2-week testing with full panel makes it impossible for the Mopes to keep up. at TTS a full panel costs $155, at C.E.T. they cost $175. blowbangs only pay $200 MAX to the Mopes. also, in the past (the Cum Glazed/RLD era) a gal got a flat $150 per guy, sometimes $200 for the first and $150 per guy after. then the guys got $150 so for a 5 guy blowbang you were on the hook for $1500 for talent, minus location ($300-$600), makeup ($150), and agency fees $100-150). and say I'm doing a Praise The Load and it's 6 scenes so now it's $9000 for talent only, and I still have to pay my editor, the replicator, the printer, the boxcover design artists, & packaging. after that then JJV takes their % for distro. I haven't paid myself yet and am already on the hook for about 12k-14k for a dvd out to the stores and online retailers. how much do you guys think we get per piece at wholesale? did you consider returns? what if that movie does NOT get picked up for broadcast which is what ALWAYS puts a movies expenses in the black? there's even more to consider, but that's more than enuff 'insider' info as to why it all ended.... if you're not (somewhat) enlightened now, then there's prolly no hope for you. I do appreciate the question(s) though and am glad you're a fan of raunchy, swallow-themed porno. lates, von S. [Link] |
| Drecksau Deactivated User 472 Posts 10/11 | Posted - Jul 29 2015 : 12:14AM i wasn't aware of all that! thanx for the info! how about Digital Remastering of all the good old stuff to HD  i am sure fans would love to see all those great swallow bangs in HD again... i would! if that is no option either.... Well then.... i guess feeding frenzy is all we have left to enjoy. But Jules likes to wait for years to unleash a new release of FF Series. [Link] |
| jeffandersonn Deactivated User 1605 Posts 3/13 | Posted - Jul 29 2015 : 5:41AM So there is a way to make it profitable. because they are still shooting this kind of movie. My only complaint is that directors are not interested in swallowing blowbang. Just facials. If they can shoot facials, why not swallows?? [Link] |
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| von_swine Member Dominance & Persecution. 919 Posts 1/04 | Posted - Jul 29 2015 : 11:58AM I can see you're frustrated Jeff, but do not point the finger at me and say I'm lazy or un-interested in making the type of porno that I cut my teeth on. and keep in mind that I was shooting blowbang series for RLD & PXP over TEN years ago that were both swallowing AND facial themed, in addition to helping Mike with everything he was doing at the time. I'd add more to all of this, but would rather not since all it's prolly going to do is get me more replies that tell me I don't know what I'm talking about..lol. lates, von S. [Link] |
| pornjunkieguy Member 16 Posts 2/14 | Posted - Jul 29 2015 : 10:04PM [Link] |
| I P Freely Member 335 Posts 10/11 | Posted - Jul 30 2015 : 12:04AM [Link] |
| Mister Fahrenheit All-Star Member Meh 4655 Posts 10/13 | Posted - Jul 30 2015 : 12:25AM I'm not trying to dispute what you are saying Swine, I'm genuinely curious as to what the story is there and am looking for some perspective from someone who knows the industry. If you don't feel like discussing it publicly feel free to PM me. Edited by - Mister Fahrenheit on 7/30/2015 12:25:40 AM [Link] |
| von_swine Member Dominance & Persecution. 919 Posts 1/04 | Posted - Jul 30 2015 : 4:42AM which is like when Rite-Aid (or maybe it was still Thrifty Drug) started to make knock offs of Nyquil & Listerine so that it would hinder the Vicks companies standing with customers inside their retail chain stores since they now could choose a cheaper option. Rite-Aid/Thrifty Corp was creating it's own dominion of products to use as leverage with the major brands inside their own stores. so if a company has money to throw around and fill the stores with a highly-glossed, well directed line of gonzo titles, WITH stars they can tempt with FULL rates, then it would be foolish not to. people like me & Mike, and Brandon, and Vince, and all of the people from the gonzo hey-day that didn't either end up owning their own full blown distro company, or find a way online with an affiliate or webmaster that wouldn't burn you, are gone because we don't have any of that. we were all self-made guys and tried to do everything ourselves. and once we realized we needed to do something about it, it wasn't like people were lining up to help us, lol. add into the economics of testing, girls being able to be industrious w/out scene work, girls using PR to make themselves marquee talent even if they are actually quite vanilla, have all contributed to todays xxx landscape. porno is not in the hands of pornographers any longer.. it's a structured system that runs from the top down w/suits and lawyers saying what does and doesn't go. I mean, there's a few people left, but 2004-2006 was the pinnacle of perverts making porno for all of you strokers. look, the companies that can shoot a blowbang movie w/6-10 guys per scene do so because they can. we can't. sorry about that. does that mean we should quit? absolutely not. Mike & I still work for ourselves and have the best distro we could ever ask for so whatever we can produce, we will. and nowhere in this post am I speaking for anyone, I'm just saying it how I see it because I know what things sell for and have a pretty reliable line on how many pieces are moving on automatic around the business nowadays. I also know what talent costs are since I've done ALL of the booking for Mike & myself for over 7 years, and have basically done over 80% of the booking of every scene I've ever shot or worked on my entire career, so the numbers go by me directly year in-out. I do care about porno, about the fans, and about where all of this is heading. some areas of the business might be unfulfilling for you super pervs in this era, but maybe that's our fault for setting the bar so high all those years ago... thanx for reading/listening. lates, von S. [Link] |
| Mister Fahrenheit All-Star Member Meh 4655 Posts 10/13 | Posted - Jul 30 2015 : 1:39PM [Link] |
| Foobachi Deactivated User 251 Posts 4/13 | Posted - Jul 30 2015 : 3:29PM 1. I don't care about specific blow-bang type scenes with multiple cum swallowing. I'd just like to see more swallowing in regular boy/girl and DP scenes. It's just a bummer when the cum gets intentionally dodged by the girl or lamely shot on her chest or butt. But this is just my personal opinon. 2. as for Von Swine's comment above regarding the camera work and handheld cams - again, my own personal preference - but shaky, blurry, hand-held (especially POV-style) camera work is a trend that cant die fast enough in this business. Take for instance the camerawork from Blacked/Tushy or MAson's work. Absolutely gorgeous. why? because I can see the whole girl, not a 5x lifesize closeup of her taint and some dude's balls a' flappin. You're not Paul Greengrass filming action scenes for the Bourne Speculum. Enough with the shaky cam bullshit. Get a tripod. light the scene so the actors look attractive. let me see their whole bodies, not just closeups of genitals and tonsils. thanks. [Link] |
| jeffandersonn Deactivated User 1605 Posts 3/13 | Posted - Jul 30 2015 : 3:45PM i hate full body shot during cumshot. Von swine/ brandon iron camera work is just perfect. i see all i need to see.....girl's face from the right angle & distance, her eyes and her mouth. Blacked & tushy.com are the worst sites ever. to me it's not even porn. supersoft lame slow sex, Some directors think they are shooting mainstream movies, tripod, 3-4 cameras etc i really miss the golden era of porn when directors kept the camera in their hands but i think both of us are Off topic [Link] |
| Mister Fahrenheit All-Star Member Meh 4655 Posts 10/13 | Posted - Jul 30 2015 : 4:18PM [Link] |
| Foobachi Deactivated User 251 Posts 4/13 | Posted - Jul 30 2015 : 4:21PM I prefer my porn to look like a sexual fantasy, not a desperation fueled nightmare. again, to each, his own. there's plenty of material out there to keep everyone happy. [Link] |
| rambo99ca Deactivated User ca 406 Posts 3/06 | Posted - Aug 5 2015 : 4:09AM I would sign 10 petitions if it would make a difference. [Link] |
| jeffandersonn Deactivated User 1605 Posts 3/13 | Posted - Aug 16 2015 : 5:41AM Jenna ivory swallowed 9 loads at once in her next blacksonblondes scene...out sept 15 [Link] |
| rambo99ca Deactivated User ca 406 Posts 3/06 | Posted - Aug 31 2015 : 5:53AM You think their going broke making these? [Link] |
| jeffandersonn Deactivated User 1605 Posts 3/13 | Posted - Aug 31 2015 : 6:50AM they use fake cum. and it's ridicolous. [Link] |
| powerhead Deactivated User 58 Posts 8/15 | Posted - Aug 31 2015 : 9:32AM [Link] |
| von_swine Member Dominance & Persecution. 919 Posts 1/04 | Posted - Aug 31 2015 : 1:42PM I don't think about LP at all, they're in Europe... NONE of the dynamics that are affecting independent producers here(in the U.S.) affect them there. it's also a website with a huge network/affiliate program behind it that's prolly an offshoot of Mindgeek or some other web giant. in the structure of a web program like that, an individual site like LP is just part of a mosaic where they all contribute. if they were just a stand alone site, funded by a few guys who picked up cameras and did it themselves with their own money they earned from driving taxis around Praha or selling hot dogs in Old Town Square, then sure, I'd tip my hat, but that's not what LP is. it's funny you ask me these questions.. are you STILL trying to disprove what I explained about the plight of U.S. produced porno? especially by independents like Mike & myself? anytime a big blowbang scene comes out from a U.S. studio take a look at the Mopes in the scenes now, it's a mash of the remaining B thru D list dudes who hang around and shoot enough scenes each month to still afford the testing regimen every two weeks. there's no longer an army of guys who were great for blowbangs,..not for years. why?... because there's no money here in U.S. porno like before... I will add this though,.. I did just take a look at the thumbnails for the scenes at LP and gotta say this; looks like they studied what we were shooting 10-12 years ago and did their best to copy our angles and ideas.. so at least they are trying to get it right.. ;) I'm glad you found an option in this era for your stroking needs, truly I am. but trying to take a jab at me like that over something I have ZERO control over,.. I just don't get that. especially after my years of doing whatever I could to directly contribute to the blowbang and swallow genres of XXX. but whatevs,...at least it got me back on the keys and 'involved' here at ADT... thanx for always being a fan. lates, von S. [Link] |
| AKperv All-Star Member 1255 Posts 4/14 | Posted - Aug 31 2015 : 2:40PM [Link] |
| von_swine Member Dominance & Persecution. 919 Posts 1/04 | Posted - Aug 31 2015 : 3:40PM [Link] |
| BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07 | Posted - Aug 31 2015 : 4:27PM [Link] |
| slappedhard Member 106 Posts 6/15 | Posted - Sep 1 2015 : 12:07AM Especially more black girls.....(imagines chanell heart swallowing cum Japanese gokkun style)... [Link] |
| powerhead Deactivated User 58 Posts 8/15 | Posted - Sep 1 2015 : 8:32AM Katie St. Ives swallows for Blow by Blow Accounts [Link] |
| jasper Member 59 Posts 10/04 | Posted - Sep 1 2015 : 11:52PM [Link] |
| Drecksau Deactivated User 472 Posts 10/11 | Posted - Sep 2 2015 : 12:40AM so not acceptable for me! I always download the content to be able to play it whereever i want! mostly i use my openelec powered raspberry pi. HD Porn just looks so much better on a 42" LED TV. @von swine: Please consider to digitally remaster the good old swallow bang scenes to hd!! [Link] |
| rambo99ca Deactivated User ca 406 Posts 3/06 | Posted - Sep 2 2015 : 3:54AM [Link] |
| rambo99ca Deactivated User ca 406 Posts 3/06 | Posted - Sep 2 2015 : 3:59AM [Link] |
| Mass Facialties Deactivated User "Facialized Vol. 7" 2021 AVN Awards Winner: Best Oral Movie 9308 Posts 9/13 | Posted - Sep 2 2015 : 4:05AM [Link] |
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