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Dr. Nasty
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Posted - Feb 19 2009 : 2:44PM
I was talking to a girl named Vanessa Leon today and she had like a C maybe D cup. She had some pretty big and nice breasts. Anyways she proceeded to say that she wanted to get them bigger. Huge! was her exact words. Bigger then an.......ok if a girl has an A cup, yeah I can see her getting them. But There is no way you can tell me that she is getting them for "self esteem" reasons or "to feel better about herself" which seems to be the 2 most commonly used excuses. Its like they take those phrases out of a plastic surgery book.
I have nothing against fake tits or plastic sugery. I love real tits and fake tits. But when you have a beautiful pair of boobs that are already big and you decide to go under the knife and change them to an even bigger size(Sunny Leone). Yeah, I have to question their mentality. Now before a bunch of fanboys come in here and say.."Oh its her body, she can do what she wants to it", I already know that. But this is a forum and this is a topic. And sometimes all it takes is a few people to say don't do it and the girl will maybe realize it is the wrong decision. In My Opinion I think its all about the competition. Actually I know thats what it is because a couple of girls have said that. They say things like "Oh I see all these other girls with big breast" or "I wanna look like her" or "yeah I see girls titfucking" and other shit along those lines and its like wow. They don't even need to say anymore because they just revealed their true motives. To be one of the crowd or to be better then them. To be acknowledged. To get more work. All of which means to change for someone else. I personally hate how Plastic Surgery has become the cool thing to do now-a-days.
Supahfonic
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Posted - Feb 19 2009 : 10:57PM
Breast augmentation seems to be some kind of rite of passage for porn girls. Even if a girl has big natural boobs already, it's as if she hasn't truly arrived until she's had a boob job.
satyrsam
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Posted - Feb 20 2009 : 12:17AM
I think you have a major point. After speaking to many pornstars, one of their biggest complaints about the industry is that, they are always being compared and there is always someone telling them that they aren't good enough, sexy enough, hot enough or whatever. It's not much different in the modeling industry, I used to be a scout and all you end up looking for is what she doesn't have rather then, just appreciating her assets. It's sad that all this pressure is put on women in North America, but I am noticing a decline in big breast since the huge surge in the 90'.
Many of my favorite performers have implants, would I love the as much if they didn't? I don't know. Maybe they needed them to have the confidence to become the great performers they are. When some of my favorite performers get implants midway into their career, I always have mixed feelings about it.
So I don't think they do it for their fans and I don't think that they do it for their self esteem. So if it's not to keep up with the Jones then I don't know what it's for.
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SexyHard
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Posted - Feb 20 2009 : 9:07AM
I just realized most of my favorite stars, even big boob stars, don't have implants (or at least don't look like it):
Stoya
Jenna Haze
Joanna Angel
Dana Dearmond
Gianna
Amy Reid (OK, she's not one of my favorite stars, but she has great boobs!)
Natasha Nice
Bree Olson
 
kaiser1one
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Posted - Feb 20 2009 : 10:44AM
The problem will truly start if Gianna were to ever want to get implants.....
That's when you go crazy.
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small tits rule!
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Posted - Feb 20 2009 : 3:42PM
^ All tits rule! That's why no one needs implants!
reaper
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Posted - Feb 20 2009 : 3:46PM
LOL...agreed. Gianna Michaels have the perfect breasts IMO.
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Posted - Feb 20 2009 : 3:54PM
Agreed!
JohnW
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Posted - Feb 20 2009 : 5:01PM
Great list! May I also add Lindsey Meadows.
JohnW
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Posted - Feb 20 2009 : 5:26PM
By the way, according to Sunrise Adams' wikipedia article, Vivid didn't want her to get implants. I actually doubt that is true, since all these companies seem to think that implants=more earnings.
Edited by - JohnW on 2/20/2009 5:26:30 PM
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^ wikipedia isn't a source of original research. If they make a statement they're supposed to provide a citation to tell you where that information comes from. In the case of the particular paragraph that says Vivid didn't want her to get implants, there is no citation.
In other words, the person writing the article pulled that piece of information out of thin air. That doesn't mean it isn't true, but there's certainly no proof provided to show that it is true.
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Posted - Feb 21 2009 : 9:50AM
Why is it so hard to believe that "self esteem" and "to feel better about themselves" aren't usually the legit reasons? You're looking at things from your point of view with the baggage of "I don't like that". Because you don't like it you feel it's a "mistake" or wrong for a girl to feel that way or make the decision to get implants.
I would have to imagine that self esteem and feeling better about themselves play a very big part in a girls wanting implants. Judging from what I've seen and heard over the years lots of girls who are in porn actaully wanted implants before the got into the porn biz but didn't have the money to do so or to do it right.
Some girls might want them because they see another girl in the biz with what they consider beautiful big breasts and might simply want to get a pair for herself. Maybe some girls feel inadaquet with their smaller breats when working with a bigger breasted pornstar that gets more attention.
Then there are girls who just like big breasts. Some guys like them so it's not hard to believe some girls do too. I remember in a BTS moment Danielle Derek was all excited telling the interviewer that she was going to make her double D's even bigger because she just loved big breasts. In another BTS after she made them bigger she was showing them off and saying how much she liked them.
It didn't seem to have anything to do with getting ahead in porn. She just seemed to really like having really big breasts.
Many girls put on weight at some point and want bigger boobs to balance out their bodies. In other words they aren't happy with their shape and want to do something that will make them "feel better about themself" or simply want to look as good as they feel they can.
Sometimes a woman's body just changes. Just because a girl has great breasts when she's younger or at a certain age doesn't mean she her breasts has those exact looks for life. Girls lose weight, gain wieght, have kids and other things happen that might change her once nice breasts into something not as nice as they were. Fans might not see the "not as nice" era because they take time off during that time. They just know (and complain) that the girl with great breasts got implants for supposedly no reason.
Just because you thought they were a beautiful set of boobs doesn't make it so or that the owner of those boobs feels the same way.
I always have to laugh at the threads that complain about a girl getting implants because pretty much everytime there'll be someone who posts that that girl's breasts were "perfect" no matter what they looked like before. And of course they weren't "perfect" before but it's usually just a guy saying that who doesn't like implants on any girl for any reason.
And sometimes it's best if a girl does what she thinks is best for her instead of getting advice from a mesageboard where so many of the "fans" seem to complain and nit-pick about everything. I'm not talking about you in particular but Geeeeeez there's a lot of bitching and complaining going on here. When it comes to implants it seems that most of the girls who get them done are happy with them and their careers aren't hurt by it and more often than not gets better. But if you went by this board it would seem that getting a boob job is one of the worst mistakes to be made in porn.
That's the opinion of you and those particular girls . Maybe they're right and it is a competition for some but I doubt it's true of all the girls in porn. Even if it was true... Big deal. A person has to do what they feel is best for them. They're actually in the business and probably have a much better grasp of which decisions are better than the guys on a mesageboard who only know and care about what they like and don't really care about girl or her career otherwise.
Don't take any of this as a personal attack on you, I'm talking in generalities here. In some cases myself included.
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Posted - Feb 21 2009 : 10:54AM
My girlfriend got implants 6 years ago for one reason: self-esteem. She was an A-cup and felt incredibly self-concious about her body, to the point that she wore t-shirts on the beach instead of bikinis. Now, she loves wearing tank-tops and low cut blouses and says that she feels a million times sexier. She also says that she finally feels like a real woman.
BTW, this is her photo.
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Dr. Nasty
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Posted - Feb 21 2009 : 12:36PM
Draxxx:
Ok where do I start with this one. I would have quoted your post but it was too big and I don't want to have an extremely large post. So I just go with each bullet point.
1) Its not hard for me to believe that some girls do it for "self esteem" or "to feel better about themselves". As I have said in plenty of other threads there are girls who do get implants for those reasons. But the fact of the matter is not all of them do. Not only is the girl lying to us, she is more importantly lying to herself. You ever hear that expression "the more you tell a lie, the more it becomes the truth". Why not just come out and say I want them because *fill in the blank*. Also you mention Danielle Derek saying she wanted to make her DD breast bigger. Do you seriously want to argue that she has low "self esteem" with DD breast. Some would call that lunacy.
2) Here is a question. Have you ever seen Sunny Leones breast before the implants? If you did you would know she had a great size and they really were one of the greatest pair in the biz. That's why after she went under the knife a lot of people in a lot of different forums were like WTF? Granted she is working for Vivid where every 98% of the girls there look like barbie dolls. I find it funny that she didn't want to do b/g and then she was practically forced there. Then right after that she embarks on the PS voyage. But hey what do I know. This is all speculation. To get back on track though Sunny didn't go a lot bigger and her boobs came out looking amazing. But not every girl is so lucky. She used to talk about how she loved her boobs and then she turns around and gets PS. Hell a lot of girls say in interviews and behind the scenes "I love my breast" etc..etc. Then they turn around and get an enhancement 3 months later. Explain the logic in that. And please don't say well maybe they were pretending to like them but secretly they hated them.
3)This is my favorite. I do get what you are saying. Some people here do go over board. But here is the thing. There were girls in chat rooms this past week talking about getting implants and they already had nice breast. We all gave are input and the girl said thank you for the advice. See not every girl wants to make decisions like that on her own. Some girls want or need advice. Hell the President of the United States has advisers. Almost everyone needs or would like to hear advice from others. And the ones that don't get it or refuse to ignore it usually wish they had it or listened to it when they received it. Especially if something goes wrong or it doesn't end up like they thought. Also I don't think fans "nit-pick" about everything. Well maybe they do a little . The bottom line is this. This is a forum. Not a place for people to kiss the asses of every pornstar on earth, just so they don't get on their bad side or because they think in some weird way they are gonna get laid if they defend every thing they do and praise them. Another fact is this is a country that grants the people Freedom of Speech(even though its not really free anymore). As long as you are not being disrespectful, hurtful and just plain verbally abusive, there should be no problem. Follow the rules and everything will be fine. Lastly Not only is this a forum. Its a place where all of these individuals hard work, talent, performances, looks, etc are critiqued. If they or anyone else can't stand an honest evaluation/opinions then a Forum is the wrong place for them to be. They also have the option of avoiding the topic completely. It kills me how many people say how much they don't care about a topic or yawn or say "this again" or whatever, yet they are still in the topic of discussion posting looking for some type of validation or cool points if you will. When they could just pass it by. But that is a bit .
4) Your last bullet point is very good. I agree with most of that paragraph. In my own personal defense, It is not my job nor my desire to sway a girls decision or standing on this situation, unless asked for my opinion. I personally could care less what they decide depending on who it was. But I will talk about it as it needs to be discussed. My point is this. In this industry, just looking at majority(not all) of the girls here now I'd say the ratio of "enhanced" girls to natural ones is about 80-20, if not more...and growing. That is staggering. You can't tell me that there isn't something wrong with that. I think that this topic needs to be brought out into the light and discussed. Rather then who did DP hanging upside down from the ceiling or who swallows the most cum. I think that if a girl already has something great like a larger C size breast or DD breast, they should stick with it instead of jumping into the Plastic Surgery pool party. Whatever happened to the days of natural beauty? These days its becoming more and more artificial.
Edited by - Dr. Nasty on 2/21/2009 12:38:16 PM
RFrog
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Posted - Feb 21 2009 : 1:35PM
I can't understand why some women want to go HUGE!
I knew someone who went to a C cup and she looked good.
Years later, she went to a D.
Then she went DD and it didn't match her small frame. She started to look ridiculous.
And she joked about wanting to go E.
I don't get it.
Supahfonic
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Posted - Feb 21 2009 : 2:43PM
There's something to be said about a petite girl who resists the pressure or temptation to get a boob job. If she can be secure with what she was born with, that's infinitely sexier than a cosmetically enhanced body ever would be. Kinda like Bridget Fonda's character in "Singles."
Then again, if you read through Lindsey Meadows's thread, you can see why there are practical reasons for girls in this business to get boob jobs.
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Posted - Feb 21 2009 : 2:47PM
why is this always rehashed? WE DO IT BECAUSE WE WANT TO AND CAN AFFORD TO END OF STORY! god you guys seriously are infatuated with this topic.
someone above mentioned about us constently being compared to others etc, and thats a part of it too.... but im goin to throw another reason into this.... think about some of the most successful porn stars: jenna jameson, tera patrick, jesse jane, stormy daniels, teagan, nikki benz, jessica drake, alektra blue they ALL HAVE BREAST IMPLANTS! and we see them and the girls who wanna keep going in the industry see how they reached there success and alot of it is bc of the fans! they all have huge fan bases and hmm you guys pour your $$$$ into them and love them maybe we just want to get where they are with the fans... think about that! YOU GUYS SET THE TONE FOR WHAT PORN GIRLS SHOULD LOOK LIKE BY BUYING THE MOVIE LINES WITH GIRLS WITH HUGE TITS FAKE OR REAL! you guys go crazy for them! so blame your self a bit. just like non-porn girls who get implants, they do it bc they are insecure bc you men rave about big tits and how much you all love them and prefer them, the average man prefers c-d's and the average woman is a mid to full b. so there is your answer.
"im the girl your mother warned you about"
Edited by - lilmissmackenzeepierce on 2/21/2009 2:58:10 PM
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I have to agree this is a topic that's quite old and has been discussed quite a bit.
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Posted - Feb 21 2009 : 2:58PM
Who knows. I hate plastic surgery. I'm happy there are quite a few hot porn stars that stay away from it. The entire idea of plastic surgery is offensive. Artificially changing your appearance to fit some strange notion of physical and sexual attractiveness is ridiculous. I like hot natural bodies and faces with imperfections that make a girl standout rather than faces and bodies that are plasticised to attain "perfection". It's unnatural. It looks unnatural. Most of all, it's unnecessary. I'm sad to see so many women oddly drawn to plastic surgery. I can only surmise that they look in the mirror and either don't feel adequate or feel like changing their body like it was there hair. "Oh, I've had small boobs for years now, let me try large boobs". The only problem is that if they cut the body up enough times, it will begin to look awful as they age and may even be physical harmful.
I hope more young woman shy away from platic surgery and just accept their own bodies flaws and all. Plasticization is no good in the long run.
Edited by - A-ten on 2/21/2009 2:58:27 PM
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Ugh. Another thread on fake tits.
Draxxx
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If you're talking about a specific girl that's one thing but I was talking about the girls in general. Even with that specific girl you can only speculate on her motives unless she told someone specificly otherwise or you can read minds.
Really...at the end of the day is that going to change anything with how you feel about her implants? If you like how they look you shouldn't care what the "real" reason is and if you don't like them she might as well say she only did it to piss you off because no answer or "excuse" will probably be good enough.
I don't want to argue anything. I don't think it has to do with low self esteem. I thik it's just like she said...she likes BIG breasts. I don't call it "lunacy". I call it doing what she wants to make herself happy.
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Posted - Feb 21 2009 : 4:42PM
why is this always rehashed? WE DO IT BECAUSE WE WANT TO AND CAN AFFORD TO END OF STORY! god you guys seriously are infatuated with this topic.
someone above mentioned about us constently being compared to others etc, and thats a part of it too.... but im goin to throw another reason into this.... think about some of the most successful porn stars: jenna jameson, tera patrick, jesse jane, stormy daniels, teagan, nikki benz, jessica drake, alektra blue they ALL HAVE BREAST IMPLANTS! and we see them and the girls who wanna keep going in the industry see how they reached there success and alot of it is bc of the fans! they all have huge fan bases and hmm you guys pour your $$$$ into them and love them maybe we just want to get where they are with the fans... think about that! YOU GUYS SET THE TONE FOR WHAT PORN GIRLS SHOULD LOOK LIKE BY BUYING THE MOVIE LINES WITH GIRLS WITH HUGE TITS FAKE OR REAL! you guys go crazy for them! so blame your self a bit. just like non-porn girls who get implants, they do it bc they are insecure bc you men rave about big tits and how much you all love them and prefer them, the average man prefers c-d's and the average woman is a mid to full b. so there is your answer.
"im the girl your mother warned you about"
Edited by - lilmissmackenzeepierce on 2/21/2009 2:58:10 PM
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Hmmm I believe I am considered one of the most successful adult stars and I don't have fake tits or any kind of plastic surgery actually... Neither does Belladonna or Sasha Grey and they are also VERY successful. i don't think fake tits have anything to do with how big of a star you are going to be... You can be HUGE in this biz with out getting anything done to yourself.. I have actually had fans say they would kill me if I got fake tits...
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Posted - Feb 21 2009 : 4:47PM
^^^ A-fucking-MEN!!!
Keep doing it au natural Jenna. You are the queen of the industry.
Insecurity is not an attractive quality, and nothing screams it louder that a big pair of plastic bags stuffed into a woman's chest.
Edited by - rlankford on 2/21/2009 5:00:57 PM
 
Dr. Nasty
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Thanks to Jenna and mackenzee for both viewpoints. I am a huge fan of naturals. I don't think there's any thing as too small breasts, and I mean it. I love all sizes. At the same time I am perfectly able to enjoy pornstars with enhanced breasts, although I would probably have liked their normal ones better. But as long as a girl made the decision after a mature and thourough thought process I'm ok with it. My worry is that I think many do not do that.
Dr. Nasty
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Posted - Feb 21 2009 : 6:06PM
Exactly! EXACTLY! *My God at least there is one who gets it.*lol! This is what I have been trying to say for years. You can be "Huge" without a dramatic life altering transformation. As long as you are dedicated and put forth an amazing effort, which yourself, Sasha Grey and of course Belladonna have done and proven.
Dr. Nasty
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Posted - Feb 21 2009 : 6:12PM
I agree 100%
jrsl76
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Posted - Feb 21 2009 : 8:06PM
It keeps coming up because people are passionate in their feelings on this matter. Of course a person has the right to do whatever they want to themselves just as much as other people have the right to dislike this kind of body alteration. The subject has been beat into the ground, but don't expect it to end anytime soon. The site keeps getting new members and it will perpetuate more discussion of the same topics.
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Posted - Feb 22 2009 : 1:48PM
You blame me for not reading your statements but yet you seem to be totally ignoring parts of mine. I never said that anything you brought up isn't true, I'm saying it's not always true for every girl and may not be as common as you make it out to be. If you wanted to make your case you could probably find some girls who prove your point and I could find some that would prove mine.
Is what you think these forums are? Somewhere you can say whatever you want and no one calls you on it? What happened to that "freedom" statement you brought up in your other post? Does that "freedom" only apply to you? I'm not getting upset that you don't agree with me why do you keep bringing up your "rights" to say what you're saying?
I don't have to. Sophie Dee was once on these boards asking if she should get implants and I gave her a list of reasons she shouldn't. Do I think what the posters and I said stopped her from getting them if she really wanted them? No.
Why would a pornstar come to a mesageboard for advice from a pack of strangers about something so important when there are tons of girls who've actually gotten implants and work in the industry and know the realities of it and can give them very percise advise based on real experience? What the heck do fans on a site know other than what they like and don't like?
Oh. I see. My comparisons are bad and I'm supposedly "reaching" but it's perfectly fine for you to jump from a girl getting breast implants to girls "getting plastic surgery every chance they get". Where did this come from? This is too ridiculous to comment on.
Well then thre's plenty of women in the world who are "frauds" because the industries selling hair extentions, make-up, lipstick, plastic surgery, padded bras, girdles, fake tans, wigs, vaneers for teeth, hair removal, wrinkle removers, and colored contact lenses seem to all be doing quite well and it's not just the porn world making them successful.
You call it "fraud" others might call it "trying to look your best".
Sorry but I don't see much of a difference. You're here carrying on that there's too much of this going on and you're trying to convince me and whoever that it isn't a good thing. Excuse me but I don't see a big distinction. If it weren't your desire to sway anyone you wouldn't be posting here saying that implants aren't needed and stating you prefer natural breasts.
Well all I have to go on is the words you actually post. I don't have the ability to read you mind so I'm suck with the what you post. I'm not trying to put words in your mouth. I'm taking what you say and interpreting them as what I think you're saying. Some of my responses go overboard trying to get a point across and I go on a slight tangent to bring the point home but it's still based on what you said.
Well GEEEEEEEZ...I'm not agreeing with you. I'm saying I don't think everything you say is right all or even most of the time. Why are you getting so worked up over it?
Again...I don't claim to be reading minds and I'm going by what is written. Not every responce is directed directly at something you said. When I say "you" that means it's directed at what your saying or talking about. When I say "people" I'm talking about people in general or the people on this site who fit the profile I'm using/talking about.
The name of this thread imlpies that here's the real reason women get implants. I read the supposed "real" reason and didn't feel it represented all the real reasons and proceeded to list some more. While doing that I offered up some alternative reasons to the reason the one or main reason you gave and explained why I felt that way and gave examples to help make my point.
Now I'm in this very strange vortex going back and forth with you over is what is basically a difference of opinions and in the meantime we're just going all over the place as you keep trying waay too hard to try and prove me wrong when much of what I saying isn't a "right" or "wrong" thing. All I've been trying to point out that the reasons are nearly as narrow as you insist on trying to make them.

Edited by - draxxx on 2/22/2009 1:54:03 PM

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^^ + 1000000. Plastic tits are awful.
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I think Jenna and Mackenzee both have legitimate viewpoints.
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Posted - Feb 22 2009 : 3:45PM
And I never said that you did say that. I'm just saying that what Miss Pierce said goes to validate some of the things I have been saying. This statement also goes to show what I have been saying about you as well. You either aren't really reading my posts thoroughly or you are just misinterpreting almost everything I type.
I never said it was. Again with the putting words in my mouth. I'm saying that myself or anyone for that matter should be able to say what they want or make a topic about whatever they want, without having to worry about being crticized or talked down to. As long as it falls within the rules etc. And as you said. If someone "can call me out" on something then Its only fair I should be able to call anyone else on whatever they do as well. Be it pornstar, director or fan.
Actually I said "stretching", but you probably didn't read that either. Ok. Maybe I worded that wrong. I should have said girls getting breast enhancements every chance they get. Oh but wait. What is the title of my thread. Exactly! LMFAO! You didn't even read the title did you?! So its not a stretch nor a jump. You think boob jobs are the only things girls have done. I would have gotten more into PS had I not had to "defend"/clarify my statements to you. I just decided to start with breast because it was the first thing fresh on my mind. Maybe it wouldn't seem "too ridiculous to comment on" had you actually understood anything. WOW!
But we aren't talking about those girls. This is called the Porn Pool. Not the "Rest of the girls in the world pool". While I agree with you on this statement. They have nothing to do with the discussion at hand. Also that is a totally different extreme. There is a big difference between a girl who temporarily wears makeup/lipstick and a girl who gets ass implants. You can wipe off makeup at the end of the night. What about the implants? Seriously!
Thats because you are blind in that manner. As I read this statement(especially your second sentence) I can clearly see that your posts are based off the presumption that I actually care what you think on a deep level. Its all opinion. I hear everyones opinion to see what everyone thinks. A topic of conversation. I'm not, nor have I ever tried to conivince anyone that this isn't a good thing. Nor did I say anything about implants not being needed. You come up with things out of thin air then write them as fact. I have actually said that I don't mind them and that girls who need them should get them. I have also said that girls shouldn't hastily jump into PS, because some of them have a natural beauty they should appreciate. So please stop trying to tell me what my goal is, what I'm trying to do and what the endgame of my statements comes to. My intentions for this topic were for the people here to discuss what they think the real motivation is behind so many porn girls getting PS. Not to be one dimensional and talk about breast implants all day and who loves and hates them. Which it seems to have degraded into.
I'm not getting worked up. If that is what you are thinking then you are mistaken. I am just clearing or trying to clear up the situation, the best I can over a forum.
I was debating on responding to this one. Becasue it just goes to show what I am saying yet again. Your first sentence is amazing. The name of the thread is "Plastic Surgery: Why do girls "really" do it?! The name of the thread has nothing to do with implants(though it is a form of PS)Do you know what PS is? Do you know what all it covers? If not I suggest looking it up or watching an episode of Nip/Tuck, because there is too many things to name. As I said earlier in this post, I would have moved on to other surgeries and topics related to Plastic Surgery but I have been busy with you. I was not telling anyone the real reason as I can clearly see you misunderstood by what you wrote in your second sentence. I was just listing one or some of the what the possibilities are as you were. This is a topic to find out what people think. Not to throw around hypothesis as fact. I was just given some information by pornstars and decided to talk about some of it.
 
SxDoctor
Member

103 Posts
10/06
Posted - Feb 23 2009 : 8:09PM
I really need to invent an affordable plastic surgery technique for penis enlargement just to see how many people who complain about women in porn getting plastic surgery are hypocrites.
satyrsam
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analgroove.com
33 Posts
3/06
Posted - Feb 23 2009 : 10:21PM
I don't think that penis surgery would compare for we can't see the penis unless the man is naked. Where as breast, you know if a woman has an "A" cup or a "D" cup no matter what she's wearing. Anyway they are many penis surgeries out there and most cost less than breast implants. Some men already get calves implants and abs implants. So it does happen to both sexes but the original questions was "Why do girls really do it" and not why do people get plastic surgery.
lilmissmackenzeepierce
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1148 Posts
10/07
Posted - Feb 24 2009 : 2:36AM
hmmm ya know.... i was wanting to ask you guys.... what about girls in the industry who dont go ridiculously huge and they are proportionate, and look good.... dont mean to brag but i think i have an amazing tit job, they look AND feel real, you cant feel the bag. i have asked people to feel them that didnt know i had fake tits and they felt of couse and asked "why am i feeling your tits? they feel like all tits do!" then i tell them i just wanted an unbiased opinion of how they feel from someone who didnt know i had a tit job!
"im the girl your mother warned you about"
BlackSix All-Star Supporter
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9/07
Posted - Feb 24 2009 : 4:19AM
Q: Why do girls 'really' do it?
A: Low self-esteem
bono-ONE All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Feb 24 2009 : 7:01AM
I'm just curious how many girls you actually asked that question to who gave you that response.
NewRomancer
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Posted - Feb 24 2009 : 11:44AM
No way... a girl in porn with low self-esteem?!?! You must be joking....
(Heavy sarcasm)
,-)
lilmissmackenzeepierce
Senior Member

1148 Posts
10/07
Posted - Feb 26 2009 : 4:41AM
why do you guys say it with such a shitty tone? some girls have low self esteem some dont, it all depends on the girl, and who gives a rats ass why they do it.... this is so damn old...i mean why do we humans do some things..... its all based off the person making the choices they find to make them happy lets leave it at that!
"im the girl your mother warned you about"
BlackSix All-Star Supporter
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12377 Posts
9/07
Posted - Feb 26 2009 : 4:42AM
The honest ones.
Draxxx
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3831 Posts
2/07
Posted - Feb 26 2009 : 9:41PM
My theory is that the size of your breasts or implants in a lot of cases dictate the type of pornstar a girl will be or wants to be and they type of movies she'll be in.
I think many of the girls who go really big want to be more of a big boob pornstar type. It would seem that many of them go that route because in many cases it's less demanding porn. There are plenty of exceptions to the rules but it seems that many big boob pornstars tend not to do or do a lot less of the more "extreme" stuff. Less anal. Less IR. Less "rougher" type sex.
I also think the really big boobs gives a girl a "thing" when they don't have anything to set them apart otherwise. Most of the big names in porn have a "thing". For some it's big boobs. For others big butts. Or being especially nasty. Or just being very pretty. Or being an anal queen. Or handling the big boys with ease.
I also tend to think that the girls who go for a more "reasonable" size (a "c" cup or smaller) mostly want to look better overall or want to measure up to the girls around them. I think the girls who do the more reasonable size might get more a bit more work but she still needs to have another "thing/gimmick" working for her to make her really stand out. If they don't have the sheer beauty or big butt or whatever they've got to pour it on sexually to stand out.
Girls with small breasts and no implants I feel get offered lots of "young girl" type porn and if they don't have another "thing" to exploit they've got to get really nasty to get noticed. There doesn't sem to be a whole lot of big name small breasted girls who aren't over the top performers. A big breasted woman can be a big name without being a great performer but a flat/small chested girl doesn't seem to get that sort of free ride.
Draxxx
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3831 Posts
2/07
Posted - Feb 26 2009 : 9:51PM
Okay...since you've gotten them do you think it's gotten you more work? Do you feel better or more confident on camera? Have you noticed you've got a different or bigger fanbase? Are you getting gigs you wouldn't have gotten before?
What are the positives of your boob job? Are there any negatives? If a fellow pornstar with small breasts and the name of a good dactor asked you if she should get them, what would you tell her?
Sorry if you've been asked this 100 times before..but I haven't seen you talk much about your experience.
mindee
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10/06
Posted - Feb 27 2009 : 9:43AM
OK..I'm no star, just a performer. I am not opposed to plastic surgery. To quote Kathy Bates..."I'm older and I've got more insurance" As you get older things sag and bag and no matter what I might do gravity can't be defeated. I'm a BBW and I'm happy with that, but I would very much like to get the girls lifted back up, and yes, inflated a little bit. I like big boobs, I'd like mine to be bigger. But I also have to agree with the people who say leave everything alone. My bigger concern is that if you're going to have plastic surgery be really careful to research the surgeon and get a good one. Don't go out and try to find some sort of bargain deal. This isn't like getting pizza delivered..this is your body. Don't try to save a few bucks. Get the best surgeon that you can.
zzaphod42
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13 Posts
1/09
Posted - Feb 27 2009 : 1:17PM
Unlike many in this thread, I find the topic quite fascinating. Of course, I haven't been around for the countless times that this topic has been beaten into the ground.
My preference when watching porn is to see natural (or natural looking) breasts, regardless of size, shape and elasticity. I find it very difficult to focus on a scene if the boobs are obviously fake. Having said that, I simply try to avoid movies with an abundance of obviously fake breasts. There is plenty of varied material out there to satisfy most peoples wants/needs.
I certainly do not think any less of the women who choose to "enhance" their breasts, nor do I think it is appropriate to try to actively persuade them to avoid doing it. A woman certainly doesn't need anyone elses approval regarding whtat she does with her own body.
I would be very interested in having more women who have chosen the "enhancement" route to chime in with their own personal reasons.
My guesses would be:
Always wanted to
Self-esteem issues
Pregnancy/ Breastfeeding
Aging - avoiding gravity
Keeping up with the Jones'
Industry/ Fan pressure
Curious

and last but not least, because they can.
I also have a question regarding boob jobs in reviews, but I will start a new topic instead of trying to hijack this one.
lilmissmackenzeepierce
Senior Member

1148 Posts
10/07
Posted - Feb 27 2009 : 2:04PM
i would say i work about the same or a bit more, however right before my boob job i got an agent that actually worked to get me work.... i dont feel there are any negatives in my case, they are proportionate, i do less young girl stuff... which i didnt really get to exploit the young girl thing very well for a couple reasons 1 i had shit agents and 2 im not wasnt a one to have the "young girl" look meaning i wasnt 100lbs had a womans body from the waist down...i feel i get more work actually bc i can still play a college girl and have and also play a sexy vamped woman role....
if a girl asked me if she should get a boob job and said she "has a good doctor" i would tell her togo for it IF she has done all the work she can for the young girl teen market, if she had gone and researched her doctor for claims filed against him and has actually seen/felt some girls breasts that went to the doctor she wants to ABD that she doesnt go to a dd that she goes proportionate to her body (full c max), and last if she was doing this just for porn to rethink her decision and want it for her self not bc someone wispered in her ear. When i got my boobs done it was a little based of the work i could potentially get bc i was on my way out of the teen market, but also because wheni stared as a stripper i had mid c's after dancing for 3 months i had lost 15lbs from the constant cardio and pole tricks i taught myself, so i wanted to have breasts again. my agent actually protested me doing it... she wasnt a deciding factor for me.
as for a fan base, i have gained alot of fans since, but i also have worked more with my agent so i am unsure if its bc of the boobs or the agent being a great agent, although i have had MANY MANY fans newer fans say they say me in such and such(where i had new boobies).... i feel more confident about my self in general not just on camera, i feel like im more balanced by having boobs with a fuller ass, i can fill out bathing suits and sexy outfits better.....
im all for plastic surgery IF it is done right, and if it isnt to make fix someone's self esteem but just enhance their self image which are 2 totally dif things. also as long as the girl is doing just for herself an not bc bf's or agents are hounding her too....
i mean people go and adjust how they look all the time, change hair style, hair color, tanning, the gym, new wardrobe.... sadly we americans place a huge importance on looks its just how it is and we want to feel we look good and feel good about ourselves, so in my mind plastic surgery is just another way people go about improving self image.
"im the girl your mother warned you about"
licker
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1141 Posts
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Posted - Feb 27 2009 : 9:28PM
Everyone is different of course, but there are some guys who like porn just because they love women. That's the way I feel about it. To me a woman can be beautiful and sexy at age twenty or age sixty, or anywhere in between. The shape of her breasts or her body is her own, and she is delightful just by being herself.
When those guys read about someone they like, and hear of her having her body cut up with a knife to change her looks, they just feel bad about it. It feels like hearing she was beaten or raped. I know it's not the same thing, but it brings those feelings. It's like hearing that someone you care about has been violated.
Your body is your own, and you are the best judge of what makes you feel right. What you want to do for your career is your choice alone. I'm just saying, many of the guys who talk about this, they're not trying to put you down. They're just saying that they like you and they care.
You look beautiful now, and you already looked beautiful before.
Some of us would be happier in a world where women didn't feel they needed surgery to "look their best", but that's not this world. That's why you hear so much about it.
rlankford
Senior Member

2045 Posts
6/06
Posted - Mar 1 2009 : 5:11PM
"So after I graduated high school and had a messy breakup with an ex I decided I wanted boobs! So good old mom and dad got them for me! Then I got really hot and everyone around me got nicer and nicer!"
A quote from the new model on FTV Girls
Edited by - rlankford on 3/1/2009 5:13:23 PM
Rico1650
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Living the Dream
414 Posts
10/07
Posted - Mar 1 2009 : 11:12PM

The five ladies below are the biggest stars over the last 3-4 years: Keri Sable, Sasha Grey, Jenna Haze, Rebecca Linares and Mia Rose.
All five are young, NATURAL, sexy and seemingly insatiable. No need to split the atom when these girls are performing. As Ricky Bobby says in Talledega Nights, "My dick is harder than a diamond in an ice storm".
Go ahead and throw Paulina James and Alexis Love into the mix too. Some of the newer girls like Mimi Allen, Mary McCray and Kiki Vidis are smokin.
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