Plastic surgery is a fact of life in XXX. Obviously. What porn chick doesn't have fake boobs? Probably 5%. But what's with the new trend to get "lip augmentation"?? August Ames for example. Beautiful Cindy Crawford look alike. Looked terrific BEFORE she got the lip work done. WHY???? At least we see her hot body as is still...for now. The lip augmentation/alteration is starting to be trendy in the biz. WHY?? Reminds me of this one scene in Two & A Half Men. Charlie's mother goes to get a little "butt fat" inserted into her lips. Walks into Charlie's house...with exagerated overly inflated lips. Looking like a fish. Or as if she put JLo's ass on her lips. I applaud the XXX chicks who decide to stay as they are. Natural. 100%. No surgery.
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Posted - Sep 23 2015 : 6:59PM
Looks terrific right now imo.Because she wants to have thicker lips.Because an increasing number of pornstars want to have thicker lips.LOL at your conflation of "natural" with "no surgery." 100% natural is Harley Hex without makeup. Look her up. Edited by - misspornUSA on 9/23/2015 7:09:04 PM
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Posted - Sep 23 2015 : 7:04PM
I am also not a fan of the surgeries or augmentations. Clearly August didn't need an augmentation but it is what it is. Hope she won't augment her perfect boobs.
Really don't know what makes a these women get surgery, obviously they have to look fantastic to get roles in the first place. Women like Dillion Harper, Ashley Adams, Nina North, India Summer all natural and brilliant in every scene they do.
to each his own..... If it makes the girl happy then good for her :) I've learned you can't please everyone and as long as I'm happy, and confident in myself that's all that matters and if your a true fan of mine you will love me and my scenes regardless of what color my hair is, if I've lost or gained weight or have big lips or not #JustMyThoughts
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Posted - Sep 23 2015 : 11:25PM
All you have to do to answer that question is look at what change was made. So, for example, if a pornstar undergoes breast enhancement surgery, it is reasonable to assume that she did so because she wanted bigger breasts.
Yeah, breast augmentation is understandable in some circumstances. Even naturally well endowed women may need to get a lift somewhere down the line. But plastic surgery anywhere else is absolutely unnecessary. Not happy with your ass? Then just do a bunch of squats, deadlifts, straight legged deadlifts, and goodmornings. Rep the crap out of them, do tons of sets, and go slow with the reps. Your ass and thighs will grow big time. (Some men wont do squats because they think the thigh chafing makes their legs look too feminine). Absolutely no reason to get your ass injected. And Im sorry, but the effects of lip injections are not good. I understand women being envious of naturally full lips. NATURALLY full lips look sexy. But theyre not everything. The total package of a woman is what matters most. The results of lip injections are always bad. Everytime I see a model who just got lip injections, Im reminded of that big lipped cartoon character that chased down Bob Hoskins in Roger Rabbit. I have blacklisted many models because they got lip injections. Very tragic. I also believe facial plastic surgery is largely unnecessary. Especially if you are under 40. Here is a new rule: If you run a successful solo paysite and you are under 40, you probably dont need plastic surgery. If tons of men are slapping down $30.00 a month just to see you naked, then they probably like you the way you are. You probably dont need plastic surgery when you start doing porn. And even if you are above 40, you probably still dont need it. Just use anti aging creams and you will be fine. Graceful aging on a woman is sexy. Take a look at Akira Lane, Roni Ford, and Lucy Page to see what I mean. Just take care of yourself as best you can, and dont obsess over a wrinkle here and there. Pay attention to your demeanor, the way you carry yourself, be sure you are dressing conservatively, and you will continue to break men's hearts - especially the ones who are in their teens and 20s - in spite of a few wrinkles and a few grey hairs.
In this topic, people that don't realize that when most women get plastic surgery, it's about them, not you. It's not about what you find attractive, it's not about what most men find attractive, it's about what they find attractive, and what they like (or don't like) about themselves. No amount of you lecturing them about how they should feel beautiful just the way they are is going to affect that.
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Posted - Sep 24 2015 : 3:34AM
If a girl work done, that is an automatic deal breaker for me. Enhanced breasts wrinkle in an un-natural way and I honestly do not know how people can see that and not get turned off. Sadly, a lot of the enhancements are done in order to get booked more, sorry but as far as I am concerned, that's like using steroids in sports. I would suggest that no one post pics in the thread and that we keep it civil. This will get locked rapidly if it gets stupid. Silicone Is Evil, Razors Aren't Much Better
^^^^Ah, but when men put on too much muscle, or get too lean and become too much of an Adonis, or when they become too obsessive about their hygene in general ( or vice versa) , or when men shave too much or not enough, or when men commit certain kinds of fashion feux pas (which women are all too quick to point out) is it then what men like or dont like about themselves? Is it then not about what most women find attractive? Its a two way street my friend. And I actually think men in general do a good job of taking women's criticisms into consideration. So yes, I have every right to express my opinion about women and plastic surgery thank you very much.
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Posted - Sep 24 2015 : 8:45AM
^ I wasn't implying that anyone should reform their opinion, I just don't understand how that can be seen and ignored. As to steroids, my point was not about appearance rather using un-natural substances to gain a competitive edge. If a performer has work done to feel better about herself, more power to her, I don't know that that is always the case. Silicone Is Evil, Razors Aren't Much Better
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Posted - Sep 24 2015 : 11:05AM
In other words "If it's not understandable to me, then it's not understandable." What if someone does not want to do "a bunch of squats", etc. but they wants a larger backside anyway? They have other options now.For me (and for these pornstars), full lips don't have to be natural to be sexy. I strongly doubt that any pornstar believes that full lips are "everything."Bad in your opinion, but good, great, or inconsequential for others.We're talking about wants and desires. Necessity is irrelevant here.
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Posted - Sep 24 2015 : 11:08AM
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Posted - Sep 24 2015 : 12:49PM
^ Then someone is not doing what a friend should be doing and telling these women that there isn't a damn thing wrong with the way they look. If it's an agent or studio pressuring them, then fuck those guys. I don't think the majority of the women who are in the industry have low self esteem to begin with, but wouldn't augmentation be a sign of low self-esteem and instead of doing real work to fix the underlying problem, this is a rather large band-aid? Silicone Is Evil, Razors Aren't Much Better
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Posted - Sep 24 2015 : 12:51PM
Personally, I love real tits. What I think most people object to is not so much the idea of a girl getting fake tits, is that the girl gets fake tits By going to "Joe's Fake Tits Emporium" and getting them done for $699. And it shows. The girl then posts a few shots on here thinking they're great looking and you just want to say, "if anyone tells you they look good, they are flat out lying to you!"
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Posted - Sep 24 2015 : 1:00PM
^^We alter the way we look every day. Do you have a girlfriend or wife? We put on makeup, we do our hair, we do our nails, we shave, we workout, we use all sorts of creams and lotions to give our skin a certain look, etc., etc. Are all of those band-aids for "low self-esteem"?
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Posted - Sep 24 2015 : 1:03PM
Except that they probably do look great, to her. Several of the posts on this thread can be summed up in a single, simple sentence: "Pornstars should value my opinion more than their own."
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Posted - Sep 24 2015 : 1:17PM
^ So choosing not to support a performer you formerly liked because she is no longer attractive to you and stating that fact is now impolite? Silicone Is Evil, Razors Aren't Much Better
Well, when someone says that it is all about how a women feels about herself and what she thinks makes her attractive, and it isnt about what most men find attractive, I take that to mean that objective opinion doesnt matter.
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Posted - Sep 24 2015 : 1:44PM
^^ Sorry Darth, I miss-interpreted ^ sign (superfacepalm) Silicone Is Evil, Razors Aren't Much Better
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Posted - Sep 24 2015 : 1:50PM
Are you sure that you're talking about "what most men find attractive" and are not just excessively inflating the normativity of your subjective opinion?
First of all, your opinion isn't objective. There isn't an objective definition of beauty, beauty is subjective almost by definition. The best you can do is popular opinion (i.e. more than 50% of people find this person beautfiul, hence they are), and even that doesn't make it objective. Secondly, no, it doesn't matter. What matters is what the woman thinks of herself. Everyone else's opinion on her beauty is inconsequential if she doesn't believe she's beautiful.You didn't so much misinterpret it as he misused it. It's one '^' for each post between your own and the one you are referencing. What he should have written was '^^' and not '^^^^'. Edited by - whatsatelephonebill on 9/24/2015 7:26:48 PM
No offense but you're making some stuff up. Just page 1 there's at least 2/3 natural pornstars. There's heaps of new young petite, natural pornstars cropping up like Josline Kelly and Valentina... There's something for everyone, so go watch what you enjoy. I will however agree that out of all the plastic surgery the lips/butt are the worst because it always comes off comical. However, a nice pair of fake breasts done well, like Kylee Strutt, old school Nikki Benz etc, are absolutely delicious. Imagine Lichelle Marie without those amazing firm fake tits? She wouldn't have been even half as popular. Fake tits done horribly, yes they are better off natural. Or if they are extremely petite natural ends up looking better. Edited by - nightTemplar on 9/24/2015 9:14:41 PM
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Posted - Sep 24 2015 : 9:37PM
This is exactly my point. If a girl is doing it for this reason, this is exactly the wrong reason to do it. If it's for self esteem issues, I can see that but bigger tits are not going to fix that problem long term. Silicone Is Evil, Razors Aren't Much Better
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Posted - Sep 24 2015 : 11:01PM
^What about that reason makes it "wrong"?
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Posted - Sep 24 2015 : 11:36PM
^ So you are ok with someone placing proven harmful objects in their body so you can be entertained? I don't want to be entertained at someone else's expense. By supporting those who do this, it just perpetuates it. Now you could argue that it's like buying a better computer to do your job better, but fake tits don't really help you perform better IMO. From everything I've seen the girls who have work done get worse after they have it. I do realize that my preference plays into that view, But radically altering your body so you can be more popular is not good. Silicone Is Evil, Razors Aren't Much Better
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Posted - Sep 24 2015 : 11:48PM
^I used to strip, and I understand the thinking behind getting work done in order to be more successful at a job in which your body is front and center. Personally, I don't have a preference for augmented vs. so-called "natural" or vice-versa. No one is "placing proven harmful objects in their body" on my account. In any case, you've continued to imply that pornstars should give more weight to your opinion than their own. Why would they do so?
Edited by - misspornUSA on 9/24/2015 11:50:06 PM
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Posted - Sep 25 2015 : 1:59AM
^ I do find it interesting that people are saying that it's about the performers feeling better about themselves and not about making money, when every indication directly implies that it's the other way around. No, I have not implied that my opinion should influence anyone, but like everyone else here, it is my opinion. I do find it interesting that for the last few years a differing view has come to be seen as an attack or as the person stating their opinion wanting people to follow. If I was that fucked up I'd open a church. Silicone Is Evil, Razors Aren't Much Better
Best just to say, "Plastic surgery makes me cringe." Or "Fake boobs, asses, and lips are a big turn-off for me." Or "Most of the boob jobs one sees seem very badly done." Or, "To me, this woman now looks like a duck." An expression of pure preference is relatively unassailable.
I just boycott the girl if she goes ahead and does something that i do not like.That is all i can do.I really hate fake butts but because i find Julie Cash's overall thickness sexy i still watch her.But in general other girls with fake booty do not get my money! If a girl loses weight when she was curvier before then i just flat out boycott her.I really do not find thin sexy and attractive. Sometimes i even use torrent to download scenes of girls who have gotten surgery or have lost weight whilst continuing to pay for content that i like with girls whose bodies i like Yes i am a mean guy!!
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Posted - Sep 25 2015 : 9:15AM
Bob! :) It's hard. I don't like plastic surgery. But when we nitpick people getting naked on camera how can they not want to make every effort to look better on camera. So if you don't want to see so many women go under the knife or needle... keep your public posting positive. Comment on performers you like (not performers you used to like and don't anymore because of whatever.) Don't comment if a performer isn't your taste. No one wants to read your negative comments. Everyone has insecurities. Getting naked on camera and having to read every little criticism on the internet is a constant assault on one's self-esteem. You want to see less surgery? Be nice. It might be that simple.
It works both ways. It is true that its about what they want, not what we want. So who are we to criticize if someone wants plastic surgery. Its their choice. OTOH, I have never seen a good lip injection. So when a pornstar gets a lip injection and I no longer think they're attractive I just stop watching them. I will still watch their scenes before if I liked them but I owe them nothing after that.
That was my attempt at the absurd. Can't be too solemn, can we? Anyway, I would never post something negative about a performer in her thread (no matter what I think or how I feel) and unlikely elsewhere. What's the point? Praise those whom you like, bring a little more sunshine into someone else's life; we all have enough of the other.
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Posted - Sep 25 2015 : 11:27AM
^I didn't meant to suggest that you didn't know that such a statement would be inappropriate, but I know that not everyone reading your post would understand that you were joking. I see negative comments that fit your example fairly often.
I can honestly say that not a single pornstar that I've been into that has undergone plastic surgery has come out the other end "hotter". Atleast in my mind.
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Posted - Sep 25 2015 : 12:25PM
man, this whole thread is a giant facepalm lol. its pretty simple. her body, her choice. it literally doesn't matter what any of us think. there are no "wrong" reason for a performer or anyone for that matter to get plastic surgery, only their reasons. like whatsatelephonebill said, beauty is subjective! your idea of beauty isnt the same as someone else's. what a performer sees when she looks in the mirror isn't what you see. the majority of the posts on this thread remind me of guys that see a girl on a street and tell her to "smile because shes beautiful" or "she doesnt need make up because natural beauty" like dude stfu! your opinion doesn't matter and she didn't ask for it. she is doing those things for herself.
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Posted - Sep 25 2015 : 12:29PM
hm i wonder if you watch alot of sports.. or reality tv shows lol
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Posted - Sep 23 2015 : 5:58PM
.That is all i can do.I really hate fake butts but because i find Julie Cash's overall thickness sexy i still watch her.But in general other girls with fake booty do not get my money!