And what if he doesn't get wood? How many people do you call in? The problem with setting shoots up with fans is timing. There is now place to set up screening during travel, and if there was, it would take a day or two to get that done. Fans are not going to travel to LA just to get screen tested. Especially when just one is going to appear in the film that day.
Believe me, I've tried a lot of different screening methods. While your idea works when we're casting pros for a part, working with the fans and members of a website is a totally different animal.
Just another bare bum in the shiower 1739 Posts 12/04
Posted - Nov 26 2005 : 12:09AM
Anyone seen the new Private gonzo series by Ionie Luv Coxxx, starting with "I Only Love Spunk" nd "I Only Love it up the Arse"?
The promotional blurb says:
"Private is delighted to announce the signing of Britains most exciting new female porn director Ionie Luv Coxxx. Tired of seeing an all male British Porn scene playing 2nd fiddle to the USA, 25 year old Ionie Luv Coxxx - in her own words "a filthy buxom sexpot with tits, ass and a Gonzo girl power pitch" - is all set to wow the world with her new series for Private. With an all new style, the series takes regular guys from the street and invites them to sample the delights of some awesome professional porn actresses. All, of course, caught on camera by Privates delectable female director. "I dont use male porn stars just girls and regular guys" says Ionie "I think the sexual excitement is higher........all the guys know that next time it could be them being sucked by one of my girls, with me filming! So sit back unzip, get hip to this gonzo chick porn flick and get ready for the one and only Ionie Luv Coxxx who will be cumming to a town near you." The result is an exciting new series that is often funny, often surprising, and always guaranteed to deliver the very red hottest reality hardcore action imaginable. Forget imitations, this time it’s for real."
What about porn stars making specific films for some of the fetishes out there? One film specializing in feet could go to thousands of customers and be no different than any other porn film, except it would concentrate more focus on the specific fetish.
And while it may be true that there already are studios that do this for the foot fetish crowd, there are many fetishes that get overlooked. Take neck fetishes for example, nothing. Almost every body part could be highlighted, or even combined in a film. There is a lot to admire when looking at a porn star and everyone has their own individule tastes. Society tries to cookie cut everyone into what is supposed to be the norm, but when it comes to sexual interests, there are more varieties of interests than there are varieties of movies being made.
There are opportunities here and if it is illegal to make a porn movie somewhere here, move to where your business is more appreciated so your business can flurish.
If you like Ben Dover, or the old Buttman movies, you'll probably like this too. I wasn't too happy with some of the editing and I told Ionie that. It's not the kind of stuff the Private editors are used to, a setup where she picks up the guys (like Ben and John did with girls) with chatting, some people who refuse and then gonzo sex. She is going to edit the next ones more by herself. We did have a customer phone us, asking when the next ones were coming out, onfortunately Private will release only one a month, so it's going to take a year before they are all released. And it's a good one if you like dirty talking Britgirls.
I supose they don`t use too much fan because the pro have the look, are tested, know what to do and the stars are more confortable with them, thats my tought. The thing is , if your good enought to appear in a porn movie, you can basically be a porn actor. They don`t take the usual guy who look barelly ok because it could be a turn off for both the star and the public. So if the guy is fine for the movie, thecnically he can start a career, so it could be a one time experience but well you know what i mean.
But sure there star that would do anybody(the ones who do ron jeremy must be in that case) but lets say there more rare, especially these day.
What about $15 000? What if I said to Jake Malone: I'll foot the bill for all the key bits you need for a scene, but a friend and I have to be the (unpaid) male talent; would he be amicable? You direct, I say, if you're happy with the scene, market it, if not, at least we get the home movie from heaven.
You need more than one AIM test right? Two or three is preferred? Okay, well, if we can't manage that, shoot with condoms. Are the fans going to lynch the director if he slides a bonus scene with two amateurs wearing condoms if the rest of the movie is tight? And would the director really mind if he didn't even pay for anything to do with the scene? Everyone gets paid, everyone's kept safe, and there's a nice little novelty filler for a production if he's stuck for bonus scenes. And who knows? The scene might actually be any good.
Hypothetically, would any director say 'hey, why not, let's give it a shot!'
I saw some early Rocco pictures where Rocco went to people on the street and ask them they be interest in doing the pornstar. This was like 10 years ago; way ahead of these JM Productions and others studios soliciting strangers to go with them in vans and adult stores, etc...
I kind of find it really interesting to see it catch on; but Rocco did it first as far as I know!
It was free too!
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Eric381 Deactivated User
What are you looking at? It 2452 Posts 3/05
Posted - Jul 15 2006 : 5:33AM
I don't know what the name of the male was in this particular dig (he looked like Dick Lachey), but a bonus scene in Gina Lynn's Tear Jerkers was called The Shortest BJ Ever: The Man Who Couldn't Hang .
It could have been just some fan, but the tattoo on the girl that was blowing him looked like an early Lindsey Meadows possibly. Either way, it looked as if the guy blew his load fairly early judging by the creamy foam (it wasn't exactly a wet, fast, sloppy BJ mind you) extruding from the female's mouth. From then on, it didn't seem like he could keep it up (hang, if you will) throughout the remainder of the scene.
Welcome to the darkside....we have cookies. 598 Posts 11/03
Posted - Jul 15 2006 : 4:58PM
I don't know if someone addressed this or not but I think one of the reasons you don't see this is because although the porn fan might THINK he could have sex on film, it is often much more intimidating than one expects.
Sure, it's great in theory, but would you want 5-10 people watching you fuck your fantasy girl or favorite nasty porn whore? Cameras, lights, having to cheat to the camera? Not trying to be the downer here, just a bit of realism thrown in.
I have found that even off camera, if I am fucking someone who is particularly excited about the fact that I am a porn star, he will have intimidation issues. It sucks, because I just wanna fuck but somehow it gets in their head and becomes an issue that affects performance.
To me, its very simple, and theres one major factor that distinguishes tho pros from amateurs, and virtually none of the pros seem to understand, accept, or even willing to TRY, which therefore makes the strongest case to use ordinary Joe Schmoes instead.
Oral Cream Pies. Seems 2 out of 3 amateurs just wanna get their nut off, and realize shes gonna pull it out, to jerk off if they tell her, so they just nut.
We don't need the tired ass excuse of pulling out for "proof" your actually cumming, as it'll be known soon enough anyway. Just don't have any last second edits occur, within the last minute of sucking, before the cumshot.
Dont do squat, until after you've blown your wad. Dont speak, dont groan, don't shift, don't get your damn hand near your dick, (let alone pull it out to jerk) or in anyway warn her, when your gonna nut. Just blow in her mouth. Geez its the 21st Century, and were still seeing jerk to pops.
Let her pull the fuck back when it's hosing off her molars, when its too damn late to dodge, or for that matter, even a veteran cock whore to prep for.
Let her decide when its coming, when she feels it wash down her throat, when she pulls it out dragging slimy choad onto her lip and chin, and hangs, dangling across to the culprit dick hole, right about when she looks up impulsively, either to sport a wondrous look of surprise, or to give that charactaristic glare as if to say, "WTF? "Your suppose to fucking warn me asshole!" "What are you, some fucking amateur?"
Time to get this awesome theme up ! Any new movies or contests ? (i know the new Fan Sexxx and College Invasion movies too...)
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sickguy Deactivated User
I'm unofficially Beauty Dior's #1 Fan 736 Posts 9/06
Posted - Nov 16 2006 : 12:49PM
The brazilian company mfx video offered this promotion before they were shut down. This commpany was very innovative with doing stuff like this. They also offered custom videos where essentially you are the director. You send them a script, and they make the video for you.
As many of you might know my company is shooting a series called, The Secret Society. I let fans submit fantasies and choose some of them to shoot with me in this series. You can read more at www.secretxxxsociety.com. The first movie in the series is done casting but I am shooting another one later on.---Luv Austyn
alot of girls do this for their fans. its jsut off the record and dont get distributed. usually the fan brings his own camera and they go at it.
I dont understand just because a scene doesnt get released its illegal. arent there scenes for big companies that are not relaesed or certain actresses holding off the release of certain scenes of theres.
this one acttess says her first anal film is done ,but she is going to wait until her career dies down to release it. is the film illegal now because its not out.
2nd some companies have a distribution deal, but the company might not like a certain film or movie so it never hits the shelf so technically its not released
so unreleased porn scenes=prostituion uhhh huh.
Edited by - mjdavis on 11/16/2006 3:46:03 PM
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Eric381 Deactivated User
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Posted - Nov 16 2006 : 4:54PM
Yeah, but does the average fan have the slightest idea of what paperwork is required for model releases and 2256-sensative documentation? I sure as hell know that I don't.
Think about what you just said and there is no logic there, the mentioned above are companies that employ either an actor or actress for the purpose of video, etc.. entertainment which will be sold as a commodity to the consumer! make sense to ya??
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Eric381 Deactivated User
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Posted - Nov 17 2006 : 7:34PM
An escort agency, IMO, is "organized prostitution", if indeed the clientele take it that far. The girls are probably screened, as are the clients from what few operations I've known about.
I wouldn't be surprised if undercover cops get themselves involved in such "stings" or thereabouts, but I wouldn't put it by the client to make the first move either. In the latter, I'd venture to say any charges of prostitution are out the window.
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married_lucky Deactivated User
202 Posts 11/06
Posted - Dec 16 2006 : 12:11PM
What if companies that specialize in producing personalized amateur videos where fans can hire their favorite porn stars also made the video's availible for distribution? However limited that me be, even if only one unit was sold I think it would surely be legal porn.
Just off the top of my head, didn't Nici Sterling have a series where she would f**k her fans?
Slightly Off Topic, but good to see Kylie Ireland about... if she isn't in the Redheads hall of fame, I'm going to have to take to someone with a cricket bat!
BrekkyDJ (Australia 3 England 0 - WE'VE WON THE ASHES BACK!)
If you don't break the rules, you'll never have any fun! 717 Posts 10/06
Posted - Dec 18 2006 : 6:57AM
I don't think that this was mentioned before, but Chessie Moore who did a lot of Big Boob titles in the 80's & 90's advertises on her website to do personal videos. If you look it up, she'll tell you the hourly rate you'll pay, and then lists what cities she'll be in and when, and you go and set up an appointment for a personal "Video".
The whole It Could Happen to You serie is on DVD now (3 volumes) but too bad they were so poorly shot. I bought all 3 volumes. Somebody should bring back that serie with some current pornstars but with better camerawork and better picture quality.
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Kensington Chapp Senior Citizen
Mine is the biggest. 610 Posts 7/07
Posted - Oct 11 2007 : 6:04PM
So apart from model release contract, what other paperwork does one need to film porno legally? Or at least semi-legally.
How about a Casting Couch approach with reversed roles, whereby the hot chicky portrays the talent evaluator, and the joes act out the aspiring mopefuls?
I would think there are websites for elderly porn stars out there that do this. It just makes sense. Once a popular porn starlet hits 30 she can't command much money from directors since she is no longer "fresh," but she still has a devoted group of fans out there who have adored her work for 5-10 years. You would think that starting an amateur line of movies/webcasts would be a natural way to milk this fan-base for extra cash (as they paid up to "star" in a video with their fantasy lady). Didn't Victoria Givens run a contest or two like this off her website a while back? Perhaps I'm getting her confused with someone else . . .
Posted - Nov 25 2005 : 7:40PM
