I was just curious if anyone know who is credited for performing the following scenes in a porn video and what video the scene was performed: 1) The first anal scene. 2) The first DP scene. 3) The first swallowing scene. 4) The first DAP scene. 5) The first DPP scene.
Anal and DP have been performed for the camera since the earliest days of motion pictures. I wouldn't be surprised if the same can be said for the remainder of your list.
Tootie wrote "if you look at porn from the 70's it is in many ways even more filthy than what they make today,so.." Anyone who would make such a statement didn't see much porn in the 70's. For example didn't see much ATM till recently. Wayne In Dallas
I heard a rumor that the first ever DP scene was in The Devil in Miss Jones. Junglew, I don't know exactly when you consider "recent" to be, but Lana Sands and I were talking about whats hot right now, and when I explained what an "ATM" was, her response was thatwe always did that back in the early 90s... it just didn't have a label and was called, "Good Sex." Sidebar: I know that Johnny Keyes was the first Black man to fuck a White Woman on camera in Behind the Green Door... Sinn
Every generation thinks they invented fucking. Porn started out in the deep underground respectable men wouldn’t even admit to viewing porn. In the seventies porn started peeking it’s shiny red split covered head out into the light. A lot of its history is lost Serena was the anal queen of the seventies. Ronda Jo Petty had the first shaved pussy I saw and was an anal queen. 70’s porn explored rape, incest, young girls you name it.
well junglew,if you really know as much as you claim you know that there are many themes-rape,incest etc-covered routinely in the nineteen-seventies,that even the most out there/envelope-pushing pornographers would not dream of going near in today's political climate..in some loops of the day,urination,bestiality and more were not uncommon among the more expected activities. and thanks for the insulting tone of your post..
Ahh you young peeps..... Modern era Commercial Porn has been around since the invention of the Daguerreotype portrait camera in 1835 and the "zoopraxiscope" in 1867, also called the "wheel of life". It had moving drawings or photographs that were watched through a little slit. No pun intended. Frenchman Louis Lumiere is often credited as inventing the first motion picture camera in 1895. But in truth, several others had made similar inventions around the same time as Lumiere. Lumiere invented a portable motion-picture camera, film processing unit and projector called the Cinematographe, three functions covered in one invention. Isn't that cool? Less I digress.... Back in 1999 I was shooting a documentary in Amsterdam, NL. It was for the world famous Casa Rosso people who have the live sex shows, banana bar and the Erotic museum. They asked if I would help catalog old porn photo's and transfer very old porn films to DVD for archiving. I saw some of the most amazing examples of the earliest commercial porn ever made. It had everything you could think of and more. Anal dp, pee, scat, interracial, creampies... you name it. You guys that think porn started in 2001 with some of these new directors coming on the scene, is well... laughable. So remember class, modern commercial Porn started when? Tommy Kaye - Porn Director/Student of Porn history.
Who knew? And we just thought you were another pretty face, Tommy Kaye. Edited by - hardware on 6/26/2007 5:16:43 PM
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Posted - Jun 26 2007 : 5:20PM
Hardware is right. Look at some vintage (and I mean silent films) erotica to see what he means. This didn't begin being filmed in the 1970s. There were still pictures of the same sex acts before there was motion pictures. Edited by - conquistador on 6/26/2007 5:21:32 PM
You certainly are correct. As I mentioned before, I had access to porn history while archiving very early porn pics and films in Amsterdam. I saw hundreds of pics that were clearly from the early to mid 1800's in Europe. The subject matter was very diverse, it had anal, DP's, Lesbians, interracial, orgies, 3somes, 4somes, toilet games, bestiality, spanking and fetish. If you can think it... it was probably there. Many ancient civilizations drew pictures of all types of sex acts on public buildings and temples etc. Sex was revered and was part of everyday life for these people. Our ancestors didn't call it porn.... they called it being human and enjoyed it.
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Posted - Jun 27 2007 : 10:17AM
i have the "Big Book of Porn" which details the history of porn down to a tee. I bought it coz i thought there'd be more interesting things inside. Never judge a book by its cover!! (bought it on the global pornography network, aka internet) Don't ask me to transcript it all out on ADT though. couldn't be arsed.
Tommy, as Theodore Roosevelt once said, "You're all right!" Great dissertion you made about porn history. I once saw in a photographic book a young black female sitting naked on a naked white male's lap. An early example of IR you might say even though it was a still picture. The photo was however shot in 1865. 1865! Correcting you a little bit, WKL Dickson created the first movie camera, a credit the poor guy still rarely gets as his employer Thomas Edison reaps all the glory. Even before them there was guy named Augustin LePrince who basically created the generic movie camera before Dickson but did not use roll film as it had not been invented yet by Eastman. LePrince used individual stills in wooden frames and conjoined them as continuum. Clumsy as this is LePrince was only missing roll film. LePrince mysteriously disappeared in 1890 while returning home to France from England and nothing was ever heard from him again. Today he has American descendants living in Kentucky. But back to the fucking: like you said , creampies, pee, scat, interracial, DPs(done long before Behind the Green Door to answer Sinns statement) etc has been around since the first motion pictures were invented. Nothing today has not been tried in the glory days of the 'smokers' aka Stag films. Back in the early 80s there was a two-tape VHS documentary called Blue Memories and I think it was narrated by the late Jim Holliday. It had the famous & earliest American stag to exist from 1915 and in it the two women pee. It also had a great IR shot in the early 1920s between a white man & a black woman who was so light she could pass for white. There was also another interracial 3some between a black male with a huge huge penis & a white female and a black female occasionally lezzing out the white female & sucking off the black male. This was obviously in the mid 1930s judging by the white females hairdo. I love the old stags. Everything has been tried in the old days. Edited by - hardware on 6/27/2007 11:35:04 AM
They rumour that in the vaults of the Vatican there are banned occult books and solid gold staues of women engaging in sex acts with animals, blowjobs etc. These items have been removed from soceity centuries ago and belonged to civilisations now extinct.
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Posted - Jun 27 2007 : 12:30PM
but is pornography limited to film or print?? i bet cavemen were drawing pictures of themselves gettin it awwwn with the cavewomen. and before that, the missing-link apes were watching other missing-link apes going at it, whilst jerkin off. "Prostitution is the oldest job". for someone making a living from something, ya, but i say porno is the oldest vice. definitely before smoking, drinking, drugs, gambling, all that jazz.
I just read a few months ago that the oldist cave drawing found were in fact pornography Pornography has always been a big part of our history Edited by - hardware on 6/27/2007 2:40:31 PM
That fact that many in our culture consider porn a vice does not make it a universal truth. It is anthropomorphic to assign our values to the graphic depictions of sex which we find in other cultures.
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Posted - Jun 27 2007 : 5:10PM
Sinnamon, what is Lana Sands doing these days? I was a big fan of hers while she was performing?
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Posted - Jun 28 2007 : 6:31AM
Pornography is the explicit representation of sexual activity to arouse erotic rather than sensual feelings. Unless you're french, then it's art.
Uncle Fester, Lana is happily married with 2 children and does photography as a hobby. She is still the same sweet, amazing woman I met so many years ago... I mentioned the Love she's received on ADT and she may pop up here one day. :) Sinn
Yes! I just started watching "Mania! Mania!: Vol. 2: Sex Mania / Dope Mania" where the perils of sex and drugs are touted -- very emphatically -- in this trippy collection of newsreel footage, educational shorts and other assorted pop culture relics, all pieced together by cult impresario Johnny Legend. Don't miss the silent antimarijuana Western The Weed of Death or the horrific cautionary tales designed to warn young servicemen of the dangers of venereal disease. If you love kitsch, these collections are fabulous. The reason I bring these up are because contain in the little kb floated around the silver of the DVD are some of the earliest movie nudes I can remember. The days where you could see everything except punic hair, so the woman had to find interesting posiyions to avoid showing what ought not be showed. Goof - Funny stuff mod: extraneous quote removed - please lay off the quote button, or follow the Forum Etiquette's guidelines Edited by - hardware on 6/29/2007 11:02:15 AM
it's documented that cleopatra was one of the first women to do a bukkake as she would have a group of thirty or more men slaves blow on her face to give her eternal youth.
The Roman empress Messalina, wife of her second cousin Claudius, was an infamous nymphomaniac back in the first century. She challenged a notorious prostitute to a fucking contest and kept taking on all cummers well after the working girl was worn out.
Jewel, I heard the same thing about Mae West. I heard this on a porn tape starring old lady pornstar Jeanette Spangler. She said West would have young men come on her face because she thought the semen would reduce wrinkles and give her eternal youth. Spangler said she knew West personally when she(Spangler) was younger. the tape was from Filmco(?Loretta Sterling) and it was a gangbang starring only Spangler. Dont know if Spangler is alive or not but she was hard-of-hearing when that gb was made.
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Posted - Jul 2 2007 : 9:20AM
According to IAFD Jeanette Spangler was born in 1925 & did 2 vid's in 2000 and 1 in 2004...At ages 75 & 79....ugh!!! Edited by - hardware on 7/2/2007 10:58:22 AM
yeah I think they got her dob right. i think her mother was a hoofer(dancer)on the stage or a bit player in silent films. IAFD needs to update her. She's done far more flicks before 2000. She was even in early 90's amateur as I recall. Spangler may be old but she's no joke and is very frank. I like that about her. She's been stripping, a swinger, and probably a peep show arcade performer long before the modern porn industry came around. She's talked a lot about herself in mags like Over 40, 40+, Over 50, 50+ and what not. A very frank individual who, like that Mamie Van Doren, has a lot of old Hollywood celebrity stories to tell. Edited by - hardware on 7/2/2007 11:22:24 AM
Cleopatra was the subject of one of the most effective smear and whispering campaigns of all time. This was largely a result of Romans upset that the Emperor was marrying a non-Roman. Along with a lot of other things we have heard about Cleopatra, this was almost certainly a fabrication intended to ruin her reputation.
Introducing Brandi Swan
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