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| mapofhawaii Senior Member 1050 Posts 3/06 | I grew up on 70s and 80s porn, and many of my favorite all-time performers are from that era (Annette Haven, Ginger Lynn, Christy Canyon), but porn in the last 10 years is just so much better. Hotter girls, better picture, better directors. I can't even imagine trying to get off to an 80s flick now. Look at this list of smoking hot girls Riley Reid Mia Malkova Jynx Maze Remy LaCroix Jenna Haze Gianna Michaels Dani Daniels Alexis Texas And more hot girls keep coming too. And the internet has helped in my opinion. It's brought in more girls than would have entered the business without it. Plus it means more and more scenes, which you might think dilutes the quality, but not so. This is the new Golden Age of Porn. [Link] |
| pervybrit50 Deactivated User 473 Posts 11/13 | |
| Draxxx Senior Member 3831 Posts 2/07 | The girls of today generally do more kinds of stuff and do it at a much faster pace. As much as some people here complain about IR, there's been more IR in the past 10 years than ever. More girls doing harder stuff than ever. More girls doing the harder stuff earlier in their career than ever. I feel the girls have been overall better looking than ever. Thanks to the MILF market it's great to see so many perfomers return to the biz and be able to work steadily. It's also good that porn becomes more and more accepted in the mainstream. Yeah, I think porn is much better now overall. |
| Harry Buddha Palm Member 51 Posts 3/09 | I've been watching porn for 20 years and I'm pretty over it. 70's and 80's porn was fun. 90's and early 00's porn was beautiful. This crap from the last decade is just disposable product cranked out as quickly and cheaply as possible. The same few actors in the same few houses on the same few couches screwing for 45 minutes. No artistry. No talent. No thought. No story. No meaning. No one cares. It's about the paycheck and nothing more. The old movies used to explore taboos. Today, they just explore colons. I'm done with it. |
| Cerebral Jedi Senior Member I don't trust men who don't like big tits. 1067 Posts 12/04 | |
| pat362 Senior Member 10083 Posts 3/10 | |
| stinkfist Senior Member Subterfuge...... 7401 Posts 4/07 | |
| InstantClassic Senior Member What Have You Done To My Little Cable Boy? 2966 Posts 5/10 | Jules Jules, Mason, William H that's all what's left- |
| stinkfist Senior Member Subterfuge...... 7401 Posts 4/07 | |
| InstantClassic Senior Member What Have You Done To My Little Cable Boy? 2966 Posts 5/10 | I see huge potential in Kevin Moore but I really wish he would use a strong male talent. Jay Sin is a hit or miss. Brilliant camerawork and lighting. The picture is crystal clear...but I am not much into G/G and he is using the same girls too often (IMO again). |
| prophetman13 Member 289 Posts 8/07 | |
| mharris127 Senior Member 1844 Posts 8/09 | |
| CummingLinguist All-Star Member 5908 Posts 11/11 | When I started watching porn in the 70s and 80s, there were a handful of theaters in the large city in which I lived. I had my favorite, which showed three movies a week. A few of them were memorable, and watching some of those on DVD confirms my memory. But there were basically 10 or 20 women who would appear regularly in porn, and maybe a hundred other women who would appear in a few scenes. Most of them were pretty average looking, but a few were extremely hot. One or two could have graced the cover of Playboy. Today, there are a flood of absolutely gorgeous women entering the industry every day. Yesterday, Tasha Reign was the 100th most searched babe on Freeones.com (i.e. the last name on the list). I think it's fair to say that #100 on Freeones doesn't make you a top-tier porn star. ![]() Seka was one of the biggest stars of the Golden Age, and one of my favorites. No doubt she was beautiful, and had a certain allure that Tasha Reign lacks. But we are comparing arguably the top star of the Golden Age with a mid-level performer of our day. ![]() Samantha Fox was probably one of the top-twenty stars of the Golden Age, and has been inducted into the AVN Hall of Fame. I don't want to disparage any woman who will fuck on camera so a bunch of perverts can jerk off. But we are comparing a Hall of Fame performer from the Golden Age with a mid-tier performer of today. |
| pat362 Senior Member 10083 Posts 3/10 | I know that they are the first performers I saw do porn so that has to have a effect on my choice but that's not the only reason. Most of these early porn women didn't have tattoos, most were all natural, most were in their 20's or older, most had pubic hair and all had decent to excellent acting talent as well as being able to perform hot sex scenes. I still use these qualities to judge a performer today and that's why some popular performer don't make it onto my list because they fall short on more than one of my pre-requisite. |
| CummingLinguist All-Star Member 5908 Posts 11/11 | Still, some girls shine within the current norms. Stoya, for instance, does great facial expressions. Hillary Scott was pretty over the top in her performances, but she was great. You're right that the general level of acting talent was probably higher. But it may also be nostalgia: Yes Veronica Hart and Kay Parker could act, but what about Sue Nero and Veri Knotti? Among 21st century performers .... ... I think jessica drake, Kimberly Kane, Sunny Lane, and Brooklyn Lee are pretty decent actresses. ... I didn't see Wasteland, but reviewers say Lily Carter did a great acting job. ... Riley Steele isn't doesn't play a lot of characters, but I think she does a great job on the girl who plays innocent but is really a mega-slut. I haven't seen her Cinemax series, but if they've kept her on, they must not consider her a terrible actress. ... I may just have a crush on Stoya, but I think she can act too. I like Jerk Off Encouragement, which normally involves a girl undressing while she talks to the camera, so it requires a pretty high level of acting ability to pull off. Zoey Holloway and Veronica Ricci are both great at it. These performances are especially impressive given that they are single takes, and largely improvised. |
| Draxxx Senior Member 3831 Posts 2/07 | I also think why some people who claim current porn isn't any good today is because they're only watching one type of porn or porn from a particular studio and it's gotten boring. |
| Draxxx Senior Member 3831 Posts 2/07 | |
| CummingLinguist All-Star Member 5908 Posts 11/11 | On the negative side: I may have somewhat vanilla tastes when it comes to sex acts. I'm not thrilled with how acts that were once extreme are becoming mainstream. I like anal, but rimming and ass-to-mouth both make me a little queazy. Intellectually, I understand that the performers have had enemas before the scene, and it's as clean as an ass could be, but in my gut I can't help but feel like I'm watching people eat shit. There's a lot more slapping and hair pulling in mainstream porn. Again, I know it's a performance, but it doesn't turn me on. I am somewhat bored with the monotony of mainstream porn. Five minutes tease, BJ, a few positions (with or without anal), maybe a little cunnilingus thrown in, and the guy jerks off on the girl's face. Few features come close to the golden age for their seamless blend of story and sex. Today, the "story" is little more than an interlude between sex scenes. On the plus side: I appreciate how easy it is to find whatever kinks an individual might enjoy. Like I said, I enjoy Jerk Off Encouragement. Ten years ago, I had no idea that the genre existed or that I might enjoy it. Even though I'm not into rough stuff, I like that sites like Kink.com produce high quality porn for diverse tastes. I like the rise of Indie porn, and especially Indie girls. I've yet to join AngelaWhite.com, because I'm waiting for a day and time when I'm ready and in the mood for a live sex show and she's getting ready to go on camera. I love that she's offering production qualities as an Indie porn star. I wish more indie girls would pay attention to production quality. |
| Idlewild66 Deactivated User 721 Posts 12/11 | It isn't just about the girls. Directors are terrible these days. No imagination. Golden Age "my ass" - These are the days when it really has become "disposable." I've seen a few porn movies from the 70's, 80's, and 90's, that if you take out the explicit scenes, add just a tad bit more dialogue or scene or two, might actually could have been legit mainstream flicks. |
| Draxxx Senior Member 3831 Posts 2/07 | I see a people complaining about today's feature here saying they aren't as god as the old stuff but from what little I've seen of the SWEET SINNER and GIRLFRIENDS stuff that stuff looks so much better than the old 70s stuff and it seems they're well done. I don't get why the SWEET SINNER stuff doesn't get more props from Feature fans. In my mind for any feature the sex will always be the most important aspect and the ones that I like the best are the ones that flow from one sex scene to the other in a smooth fast pace. But I really don't think features of any era really live up to their potential as far as the sex goes. In my mind the sex in features mostly never reflects the actual story and just ends up being a generic sex scene dropped into the story. A romantic story shouldn't have the same sort of sex a drama or comedy does. |
| pat362 Senior Member 10083 Posts 3/10 | Of course todays porn offers so many more possible angles but that's because you can hold an HD camera in one hand and still shoot from any angle you want with it. The other major disadvantage to old time directors was that 35mm print wasn't cheap so you didn't do 10 takes of a scene or you could kiss goodbye to your profit and you certainly wouldn't shoot a 30 minute sex scene because 10-20 minutes would wind up on the cutting room floor. You won't hear me complaining about the stuff GFF puts out because although it's not exactly what old times director would call a feature porn film. The people at GFF still try to tell a story and there is dialogue, more or less proper clothes, usually decent acting talent and the sex scenes are excellent. |
| Draxxx Senior Member 3831 Posts 2/07 | I was just thinking about all this recently and realized I'm a big fan of the 70s exploitation stuff where the sex is simulated or is real and edited out but the 70s stuff with actual sex the movie doesn't hold my interest other than the sex scenes. In my mind they're about on the same level quality wise but I like watching the actual movie when it come to the exploitation stuff but often can't fast-forward fast enough with the porn stuff. Perhaps it's because I'm watch both for different reasons. |
| the unknown pervert Deactivated User I'd like to stay but I've got a plane to catch. 3243 Posts 5/06 | One tattoo isn't a deal breaker by any means. The problem so many girls can't stop getting them. Us (heterosexual) guys like soft, smooth skin. That is one of the things is a physical difference between men and women. We do not like skin that reminds us of our skin. The more tattoos you get the closer your skin looks like to our skin. |
| rtj2v0a Self-removed Sports is to war as pornography is to sex. ― Jonathan Haidt 222 Posts 10/13 | Sophia Santi comes to mind immediately. I find her -- and the elaborate tattoo art on her back -- irresistible. Any sort of body modification, whether it's breast or butt implants, tattoo art, or plastic surgery. can go well or horribly wrong... in my opinion. |
| Goldstein All-Star Member "You have sacrificed nothing and no one." 3689 Posts 8/10 | I've finally decided that I agree. At least from the aspect of viewing porn in the privacy of our own homes. I have never seen so many attractive, many super-model quality, female performers at one time! Nowadays, the typical audio/visual quality is pretty damn good. The better HD stuff at higher bit-rates is exciting. I tend to prefer vignette-style porn (as opposed to features or wall-to-wall zero plot), so the current "scene era" via Internet download is working well for me. The Golden Era of shot on film feature porn, shown in real movie theatres, was special. I will always miss this. Hey, I miss the real Times Square, too :) But, now that we whack-off at home, today's porn really is very good. Once we get the Internet Era business models ironed-out, things are going to be fine. If the truth be told, porn is pretty high up on the priority list for many people. |
| CummingLinguist All-Star Member 5908 Posts 11/11 | I even agree that for the average porn fan, it is much better to be able to watch porn at home. As I've discussed elsewhere, I used to be one of the Front Row guys in Times Square. But I've grown older, and now, even if places like the old Times Square strip clubs still existed, I would be too concerned about the career implications (and the ability of other patrons to take photos with their phones and post them on twitter) to do anything so flagrant. If I were discovering porn today, I would never have realized that I was both a voyeur and an exhibitionist. Still, the internet allows porn producers to serve The Long (hard throbbing) Tail. So the lack of opportunity for guys to jerk off in public without offending the people around them is pretty small compared to all the other fetishes that contemporary porn can service. |
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| Blackie Member 935 Posts 3/14 | The really perverted stuff was in the peep booths. Anonymous access, cheap, and fast. I still remember watching Linda Lovelace getting banged by a German Shepherd. Not hot, but only cost a buck on 42nd St. |
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| jeffandersonn Deactivated User 1605 Posts 3/13 | Edited by - jeffandersonn on 6/28/2014 6:44:53 AM |
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| CummingLinguist All-Star Member 5908 Posts 11/11 | Typically, she uses seven guys (which works for me, I don't want to see a bunch of mooks standing around). I think every scene involves double something. Dana Dearmond's gangbang in the series is one of my all-time favorites. ![]() You might also want to check out Dana Dearmond and Bobbi Starr's Insatiable Voyage. ![]() These two push the edge for hardcore in terms of my taste. If you want even more hardcore stuff, you should check out Kink.com, whose Hardcore Gangbang offerings might satisfy you. Penny Pax did "only" five guys for her scene, but it is pretty intense, and includes some airtight. ![]() Edited to add extra '^'. Edited by - cumminglinguist on 6/28/2014 7:40:01 AM |
| jeffandersonn Deactivated User 1605 Posts 3/13 | i'm talking about the lack of good scenes/titles......Mason shoots a gangbang movie every year with only two girls.....HGB imho is not for everyone and it's too confusional with bad light and camera woks and my biggest problem with dps and gangbangs today is the same 2 position and camera angles over and over and over....watch one watch all. End of the rant LOL |
| CummingLinguist All-Star Member 5908 Posts 11/11 | The OP wrote:
The only two scenes I remember watching in a theater that might qualify as gangbangs were Seka's 3-man blowbang in Inside Seka and Annie Sprinkle's scene in the movie theater in Deep Inside Annie Sprinkle. Seka's scene was most notable for Ron Jeremy's on-camera self-blowjob when Seka refused him. Annie only serviced two or three of her fans in the theater, and the rest of the perverts simply looked on. DPs were very rare. Moreover, if you were into such things, you just had to hope that someone would put it in a movie that would appear in your local cinema, as few titles catered to particular kinks. As for your point, no doubt the reduction in budgets brought about by increased piracy means that studios hire fewer mooks for their gangbangs than may have been common in the 00s. In fact, even Mason (who used to do 7-guy gangbangs with Elegant Angel) seems to be using 5 or 6 guys for "Gangbang Me" at Hardx. |
| pat362 Senior Member 10083 Posts 3/10 | I think the reduction in budget is probably the main reason for why there are less guys in a gangbang but frankly why use more than 4 ort 5 guys? A girl has only 3 holes and two hands so anything above 5 guys means that the extra are hanging around waiting for their turn. |
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| Whatman Member 62 Posts 10/10 | Just compare the Playboy centerfolds from the past with the latest ones. The modern girls look so damn gross with their plastic skin, implants, anorexic bodies, and shaved pussies. |
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| CummingLinguist All-Star Member 5908 Posts 11/11 | Go to the wikipedia page that lists all of the notable porn actresses of each decade. The 70s included a lot of great stars, but this list is short, but pretty complete. It includes: Patricia Rhomberg, who appeared in German porn, and only one of her films was (to my knowledge) ever released in America. Uschi Digard, who only did softcore. Kitten Natividad, who did hardcore at the end of her career when she had lost her looks to the point that people would no longer pay money just to see her naked. I didn't recognize several of the names, so I don't think Wikipedia missed anyone really big. Now compare that list to the current Speigler girls. All of the girls on this list do hardcore. It doesn't include some notable performers from the current decade, like 2011 AVN performer of the year (and former Speigler girl) Bobbi Starr. Nor does it include active performers who work with other agents, like my current lust object, Dani Daniels. It doesn't even include current Speigler girl Valentina Nappi, who is based in Italy, and is represented by Speigler when she comes to the States. If you were casting a fantasy porn movie, and had to choose between picking performers from all of the women that Wikipedia identified as "70s porn stars" or just using the current crop of girls with just one agent, which would you go with? I know that some of you would pick 'Every girl who performed in the 70s', but I'm guessing more than a few would pick 'The current Speigler girls'. The fact that this is even a remotely fair contest says a lot. |
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| CummingLinguist All-Star Member 5908 Posts 11/11 | Who in particular did you notice was missing? Were they included in either the 60s or 80s list? If not, maybe they needed to be added to the list or maybe Wikipedia even needs a new entry. You're aware that you can edit wikipedia entries, right? |
| pat362 Senior Member 10083 Posts 3/10 | The first performers I saw were all from the70's so it's bound to make me partial to them and that`s probably why I would rather pick most performers from that era over the ones that came after them. The only performers that give those 70`s performers are the ones from the 80`s. |
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| zambi Senior Member 1451 Posts 3/10 | Arguing over which era had the best performers always comes up in every form of entertainment - porn, sports, music, acting, etc. Obviously older fans are more biased towards older eras and performers simply because of nostalgia. Porn is no different maybe even worse for male fans because during your younger sexual peak years you were probably watching more porn and jerking off to porn more often so you have even stronger feelings towards those performers. But if you are more objective about it you have to admit that in almost every form of entertainment the product has gotten better because the quantity, quality, and diversity of performers improved. For example, older eras had little diversity (i.e. mostly white performers) in everything -- porn, sports, music, acting, etc. However, not everything has improved with time (e.g. boxing today is nothing like it used to be and not as popular). But its hard to argue that porn is NOT better today? Adding more diversity alone improved everything. In porn you now have performers of every race, size, shape, age, and so on. You even got trannies, midgets, handicapped people, celebrities, you name it they got it. Then you have a lot more quantity of performers to choose from, not just because of diversity, but because simply more women are willing to do porn nowadays. During 70s you maybe had 30-40 performers max who all knew each other. The quality of performers has gotten better not just because you have a bigger pool to choose from but also because they are not just druggie hookers looking to make a few bucks. The top performers consider porn their career so they keep in shape by working out, some get plastic surgery, they watch their looks with makeup and hair, they market themselves and connect with fan base. So IMHO there is no question that porn today is better. However that does not diminish in any way the greatest of past performers. I would advise newbies to check out some of the older performers to see what they missed? Just like younger generation listens to old 60's or 70's music, or watches some old film noir movies, they can also get off watching some old porn. Here's some help to get you started ... Who are Porn's Greatest Sexual Performers (Ever)? |
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| Jacco All-Star Member "liable to deprave and corrupt" 2673 Posts 5/04 | |
| Zoiper2009 Deactivated User 575 Posts 3/14 | Saw the first hardcore g/g scene that I thought was erotic in 1986. Started renting an awful lot of adult tapes in 1987. Most were hetero, with the usual lez scene included. As time went on, also managed to find more and more all girl tapes to rent or buy. BUT, even with renting & buying many VHS tapes over the years, it wasn't til 1994 that I saw asshole licking in a g/g scene. That was in the 1993 all girl release "Chicks, Licks and Dirty Tricks". Pretty sure it was Tiffany Mynx doing the licking, but don't know name of woman whose asshole was receiving Tiffany's tongue. Anyway, you could say that I suddenly had a new fetish, because girl on girl tongue in the ass action, struck me as extremely hot. Really glad that today, g/g asshole licking scenes are not the rare things that they used to be. My other favorite girl to girl activity (think that properly done can be as hot) is French kissing and women sucking on each others tongues. In the porn scenes of the 80s and 90s, if that stuff even took place in a g/g scene, it was usually extremely brief, and the women looked so hesitant about it, that you knew they weren't enjoying it. mapofhawaii, by including Riley Reid and Dani Daniels on your 8 woman list in launching this thread, IMHO you really hit the nail on the head, because those 2 women are modern examples of ladies who perform the once rare activities I mentioned, with definite gusto. Unlike the ladies of decades ago, these 2 women, in particular, definitely seem to be having a good time doing what they're doing. Actually, Riley and Dani simply make the vast majority of girl/girl performers from the 1970s, 80s, and most of the 90s, really look pathetic. Yup, let's hear it for today's uninhibited porn! |
| draghixafan Senior Member Less identical crap, more sleaze and bush! 2378 Posts 7/09 |
I couldn't agree more with every word you said and your closing sentiment. In the early 00's Jules Jordan set the benchmark with the Flesh Hunter and Ass Worship DVDs, of beautiful girls taken up to expensive penthouses and huge loads cum all over their pretty faces, that today are still some of the hottest DVDs ever. But back then they used the whole room, the floor, the walls, the bathroom that designer chair, even the glass table, and the outfits were used more, sometimes kept on for the entire scene.. best example of both being Ryan Conner in Ass Worship 3 For the last decade its been diluted down to tease/plot intro then naked-couch-facial in ALL PORN! I agree completely there are 100s of beautiful girls constantly arriving in porn today, but Ginger Lynn was a superstar because she was also an incredible performer, today that has become almost irrelevant with girls just being positioned in a few standard positions for the dude to use as sex exercise equipment and then onto their knees for him to jerk off on their face. 30 seconds of silent female pleasure of body writhing, shoulders lifted, head tilting, eyes closed sexy O mouth is often hotter than 30 mins of forced moaning/screaming? Getting close to had enough too and sealed recently when one of the most beautiful and perfect proportioned girls I've ever seen Katrina Jade arrived and was stoked to see her scenes, hoping for long slow sensual cock worshipping blowjobs, and those magnificent pierced tits to be fully worshipped, and see her gorgeous face in blissful ecstasy, but no, first brazzers trailer I see and as is practically always the case the girl is reduced to a couple of holes to be abused. And no doubt her thread will soon fill up with every one demanding her 3rd hole be abused. |
| draghixafan Senior Member Less identical crap, more sleaze and bush! 2378 Posts 7/09 | Maybe as independent movie and music are doing an answer is fan funding in advance? Eg Allie Haze's first anal movie And you get more depending how much you pay.. 1. signed dvd (dunno about downloads) 2. signed poster 3. Can vote on scene in the next studio release 4. ADT handle in the credits for bragging rights :) 5. Anonymous auction for clothing from the scene 6. Anonymous auction for bonus POV scene with your name.. If Mandy Dee was still around and I could buy a POV anal scene of her telling me by name to fuck her in the ass and cum on her face.. well :D I think as Jacco pointed out increase the budget, which could reduce the frequency and people will want it more, as we always want new porn (after 30 years I still want new porn) and bring back artistry and eroticism looking for inspiration from Salieri, Ninn, Blake. As I don't think churning out an endless dirge of identical mediocre shite is the answer? Edited by - draghixafan on 7/31/2014 5:32:40 AM |
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