I think that porn could use some younger better looking new guys, cause let's face it some male performers are more than twice the girls' age and have been in the porn business for 20+ years. I'd like to believe that the girls are turned on atleast at some level. Don't like gangbangs (and only watch them occasionaly) but it's extra gross if a hot girl is getting fucked by ugly old men that she would never consider sleeping with if not being paid.
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Posted - Mar 13 2012 : 6:03PM
Hey! Getting women to have sex with you because you have some extra disposable income, is part of the American Dream Of course, watching other old guys doing the girls is getting a little old. Often, it's not even the age that bothers me. Some of the guys -- not just the old veterans -- are so repulsive, I wonder how the girls can bring themselves to suck their cocks -- at any price. I don't know what the answer is, but, I agree, I'd like to see some new male talent. But, finding competent studs isn't as easy as you'd think it ought to be.
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Posted - Mar 14 2012 : 11:04AM
Hmm, well I need a new day job . . . where do I apply? :)
I'd say that the most important quality in a porn stud isn't his good looks. It's his fucking ability. The guy must be able to fuck any pretty lady into the ground with her sexy legs flailing around to the viewer's delight. And the guy must be able to last, so that the viewer can enjoy watching the lust on the lady's face during her fuck. It's the fucking guy who makes or breaks the scene by the way he penetrates the lady and by the way he rides her ass. Because the lady's lusty response looks good only when her fucking guy behaves like a real animal, who can't wait to penetrate and bang the crap out of her. You can't have a truly intense scene, when the guy isn't intense. But when the fucking guy is intense, then the lady can't help but respond with some intensity of her own. Because there no way any pretty lady can remain composed and calm, when a big fucking guy is banging the crap out of her pussy or ass with his cock. The lady doesn't need to act in such a situation. Her intense response to the intensity of her fucking guy comes naturally. A truly good porn-stud can make any lady look good in a porn scene simply by lubricating her well and banging the crap out of her. Because the lady will naturally respond with some intensity of her own to her guy's intense fuck, no matter how experienced or inexperienced she is.
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Posted - Mar 14 2012 : 2:25PM
^ Well, Steve Holmes isn't a repulsive over-the-hill stud, is he? Age really doesn't matter when the guys can still deliver. And, Steve is a first-class gentleman, to boot.Please explain this to the directors, camera operators and editors who love to focus on the guy's faces Wanna bet? There's a reason they're called "actresses." Why, some the girls get so turned-on, they start to moan orgasmically before the guys even touch them Without question many of the girls are naturally turned-on by the quality studs. BUT, the OP is talking about the guys who have seen their better days, not the A-list talent.
It's true that many porn ladies are good at acting orgasmically. But their acting looks like acting and not like real behavior, when their horny guy isn't banging them much. It's the all-out fuck from the horny guy that makes the lady's orgasmic behavior look real and believable to the viewer. Because everybody knows that when the horny guy is wildly banging the pretty lady into the ground with her sexy legs flailing around, then it's natural for her to respond with some passion of her own. She doesn't need to act in such a situation. Her natural response to her wildly fucking guy is good enough for the viewer to enjoy watching. Porn fans sometimes complain that a lady's moans and groans sound fake. But instead of blaming the lady, they should blame the fucking guy. Because he is the one who isn't nailing the pretty lady hard enough and fast enough to make her moans and groans sound sincere and believable to the viewer.
Yeah, I mean it must feel degrading for some girls having to sleep with them, more so than sleeping with someone that they think is it. I remembered some interview with Melissa Lauren about the first fashionista safado movie (I think it was that one) that she had masturbated for weeks before her scene with Nacho Vidal and that she said to him before the scene basically that he could do whatever he wanted with her :P Same goes with girl-girl scenes, the chemistry and attraction is super important to make a good scene. In some movies you can tell that the girl is in the moment, in others they kinda zone out. Well in these times of bad economy the agencies could have talent searches both for new girls and male performers. But as the others have mentioned finding the male talent with the stamina, being able to hold an erection for hrs etc. is not so easy.
Well guys fucking girls like a duracell bunny to annihilate them is not good, that will not cause moans of pleasure rather just moans and screams of pain - not hot.
With the right amount of lubrication and good foreplay, a hard and fast fuck for the pretty lady is a pleasure and not a pain. It's true that it takes a fair amount of experience and skill for a porn-stud to bang the crap out of a pretty lady in a pleasant for her way. Not every guy can do it well. And this might be why young studs can't easily replace the likes of Steve Holmes and some of the other older porn-studs. The thing about a hard fuck is that it doesn't need to be that hard inside the lady's pussy or ass. The guy can make it look hard by putting some weight behind his hips and fucking the lady off her feet, so that she looses her balance and ends up flailing her legs in response the guy banging her pussy or ass. It's a hard fuck, when the guy slams his hips against the lady's ass-cheeks hard enough for you to hear the slapping sound. But for the lady this ass-slapping feels like light spanking in addition to her anal fuck. It doesn't make the sex that much harder for the pretty lady. It's like in fight-scenes in mainstream movies. It looks like the guys are really beating the crap out of each other. But in reality, they are just giving each other light slaps and then reacting as if they got hit real hard. It's possible to make a hard fuck like that in a porn movie too. It may look like the horny guy has rushed the pretty lady and fucked her right off her feet, with her moaning and groaning under his cock-thrusts. But in reality, the lady may have deliberately yielded to the guy and collapsed on her belly, as soon as she felt the guy's hips push against her ass-cheeks. And if she deliberately relaxes her legs in this prone position, then her legs will naturally flail around in response to the guy's every thrust. This would look like a real hard fuck to the viewer. But for the lady it won't be that hard to take.
Why would you even think it was easy? At least 9 out of 10 guys can not perform in front of a camera. And of the ones who can, it's rarely the young guys who manage it. Pills and injections are no solution, you get a crappy performance then. Some of my UK producer friends have held auditions for studs. Of the 30+ guys that showed up (quite a few didn't even show up) only one guy could do it and he was over 30. Most producers I know don't even want to try out new guys anymore, it has cost them too many lost shoots. I think it was Pornlaw who said somewhere on ADT that the best test for a new stud is to put him in a room with ten desinterested guys, no girls and have him get it up, keep it up and cum on queue. If he can do that, he might have it. It's all in the mind. Jacco
Difficult though it may be, I think it'd be worth the effort to find some fresh meat. IMO the existing crop isn't all that fabulous, overall. They may very well be "adequate" and good enough to do the deed, and better than everyone else who didn't pan out, but that's a pretty low bar to me.
Unfortunately this has been proven to be true more often than not over the years. I've seen more than a few seemingly willing guys bow to pressure their time onscreen. Guys don't usually start at the top either, and are usually started on gangbangs or low budget stuff. Stuff that might turn-off the average guy I believe. I would also love to see more and different guys in films, but it appears to be way tougher than it would look.
Practice makes perfect in any kind of activity, including sexual activity. I bet many of those 29 out of 30 guys who didn't make it on their first try would probably make it on their 2nd, or 3rd, or 10th try. When there is no practice and no training for this kind of thing at all, then it's no surprise that so many guys fail on their first try. It's like having a sports competition, where all the participants come without any training or practice at all. You would see a lot of bad performance in such a competition. The problem with finding new porn studs isn't that there aren't enough guys who have good potential for doing it. The problem is that guys don't have any reasonable ways of developing such potential to the point where they will perform well. Three-somes, four-somes, orgies and gang-bangs are the ways for horny guys to lose their shyness and learn to get erections in public situations. But most guys who show up to audition as porn studs probably have never done anything like this before. And it's no wonder they can't perform well on their first try. Edited by - Dan on 3/15/2012 9:05:14 AM
Sure there are ways to practice for guys. Film yourself with a girl for an amateur producer. No big crew, just you and the girl. Become a swinger, once you've mastered fucking with an audience, you might be able to do it for a camera too. But don't expect any producer to pay for your 2nd, 3rd or 10th try. (And don't send me pictures of your cock, I already have enough of those and we're not going to hire you anyway) Jacco
Most guys looking to get into porn for performing as studs probably can't easily find a woman to practice with. That's partly why they are looking to get into porn in the first place. Porn is where the available women are. A guy, who finds on his own plenty of women to practice fucking with, is liable to lose his interest in becoming a porn stud. Because he already has what he wants. The only way a guy like this will become a porn stud is if some of the women he is fucking with are trying to become porn stars. Because such women might want to bring him along to fuck with them in their porn scenes. Basically, a guy needs to find a woman who wants to become a porn star and persuade her to practice her fucking skills with him. Then they will both get the kind of practice they need to succeed as porn stars. But there is no easy way for a guy to find a woman like this. It's more likely that a woman who wants to become a porn star will find a guy for her fucking practice. And then he will tag along with her, when she starts performing in porn movies. It's the women who need to train and lead new studs into the porn business. But porn women don't have much incentive for doing this. And that's why it doesn't happen very often.
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Posted - Mar 16 2012 : 12:40PM
^ If the girl is hot enough, her guy can perform well with her and she insists that he be given an opportunity for a scene, it's an excellent way for the guy to get his chance.
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Dan, the guy can do what plenty of guys have done, just pay a girl for it. If I want to learn a skill to get a job I want, it's going to cost me time and money too. Jacco
^ I suppose, it's possible to do. But the police might arrest the guy and the lady and call it prostitution. And I doubt any judge is going to believe the guy's excuse that he was training to be a porn stud. In USA, this might be expensive and risky to do. But in some eastern European countries or in a country like Thailand, the police don't hassle guys who are training to be porn studs. Those countries have more sexual freedom. And those are the places to go for training to be a porn stud.
I live in a country where prostitution is legal, as in many European countries, not just in the East. And after getting many ridiculous emails from guys wanting to be in porn I have not much patience with them. If they don't want to put any effort in it, forget about it. Jacco
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Posted - Mar 19 2012 : 7:10AM
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Perhaps many guys are ignorant about where and how to find ladies willing and able to provide them with porn-style sex-practice and train them as porn studs. Once in a while you read about surveys in USA, where the majority of respondents say that Iraq is probably on the border with Cuba or something to that effect. It might be hard for you to believe. But it's true that some guys are so ignorant that they literally don't know they can change the rules of the game for themselves simply by going to another country where the rules and the laws are different. And to some extent the porn industry in USA is to blame for such ignorance. Many people in US porn business try to disassociate themselves from prostitution completely and say that porn isn't related to prostitution at all. Which makes it a big no-no for a guy to pay some ladies to behave with him as porn-sluts so that he can get some practice and experience in being a porn stud. When the camera isn't there, and the ladies aren't willing to get filmed for showing to others. Then your sex for pay with such ladies is prostitution according to US law. And of course, this is the kind of practice a guy needs to get, before he is ready to perform on film.
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