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THE CLOTHED COLOSSUS!! RULER OF FEMALE FLESH!!! 296 Posts 3/12
Posted - Feb 17 2014 : 5:36PM
What female/male performers of today do you think have the acting chops? Ones that if they left porn. Could get a job in mainstream movies. Ones that dont look like they are reading their lines off cue cards.
That's setting the bar pretty high. There are countless trained actors, I mean people who went to acting school, have acting coaches, the whole deal, who can't get jobs in mainstream movies. They're scrounging the bottom of the barrel for ad work and such. It's a pretty competitive industry. Why would you suppose that any porn performers have more talent than those people? A better question would be, "who are some porn performers who aren't bad at acting?" It's nothing against them; acting is a craft, that needs to be honed. Porn performers are not spending 40 hours a week (or more) working on improving that craft.
(in no particular order) Penny Pax (her KINK.COM stuff and her porn parody work, especially) Callie Calypso (her fetish work for PRIMAL, especially) Andy San Dimas (her porn parody work, especially) Chanel Preston (her porn parody work, especially) Tegan Mohr (her fetish work for DIRTY DEEDS, especially) that's all I can think of at this time good topic EDIT: although, to be honest, I prefer KillBill's revised version of the topic: "who are some porn performers who aren't bad at acting?" still... good idea for a topic
Edited by - The Elbow on 2/17/2014 6:06:29 PM
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Posted - Feb 17 2014 : 10:28PM
^^ What Bill said. I don't think any of em are so good that it'd carry over in Hollywood. But I do think a few are decent actresses. Krissy Lynn will always come to my mind first. And I agree with Penny Pax too.
Lily Carter, Remy LaCroix, and Penny Pax come to mind.
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Posted - Feb 18 2014 : 2:30AM
Chanel Preston & Dana Vespoli are the two best I can think of-both would be capable of doing mainstream tv movies at least & probably playing roles in Hollywood films.
Truth be told even if I think that Penny is the best of the lotto , she can actually act not just not bad at acting , but she's a natural I don't think she had the teachings needed to really act in mainstream movies. Also there's an anormous level of competition there even most famous superstars such as Sasha Grey struggles to emerge to say the least. Penny is nowhere near as famous as Sasha so she would struggle even more. Though she may do well in little parts , supporting roles in short scenes , and then she may improve herself , she's a natural. The same reasoning fits for the others mentioned , but if you want to make an old school feature with lots of lines or a softcore feature the kind mostly acted then Penny and Remy are your choices , I may add Lily Labeau for her portrayal in Wasteland but I saw her acting too few times to judge properly
Sasha Grey starred in Soderberghs The Girlfriend Experience. haven't seen the film, but can't be do bad if he was okay with casting her. Nina Hartley Has good screen presence and personality I saw a scene with rayveness that wasn't bad. I though belladonna wasn't bad in pirates 2. However, for bad acting, it's hilarious watching Brianna Love try to act in pirates 2. Some of the worst i've ever seen and I've been to film school. lol i've seen some pretty bad acting. she has like ditzy little girls playing with a video camera for the first time acting skills. lol She should never be cast in anything that isn't all sex genre. lol
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Posted - Feb 18 2014 : 12:49PM
I forgot. Larkin love has loads of screen presence and personality. You can tell she has a creative vivid sexual imagination.
wait, are we talking about acting skills in terms of how good and convincing the female porn performer is when she's playing/portraying a distinct character that is not merely a version of herself? because for what it's worth, THAT'S the angle I was coming from when I made my suggestions
^ In the case of Penny Pax and Remy LaCroix yes , they both portrayed different characters when acting for example Penny in The Submission of Emma Marx (reviews) or in Voila or in The Newlywed Game Parody (no reviews because there's only one with no focus on acting) portrays very different characters.
I'm not surprised in the least to hear that EDIT I read the film's site and found thisSo, she actually studied the art and already worked in mainstream acting productions since the age of 7 , no wonder I found her good EDIT added Penny instead of her real first name EDIT 3 Derrick Pierce is also in the cast Edited by - LCF on 2/20/2014 6:06:04 PM
^^ that's some cool info about penny pax for what it's worth, callie calypso is (apparently) also a trained actress... according to kenna valentina (who has co-produced a lot of callie's fetish work), callie went to school majoring in acting
I beg to disagree, for actually I think that there are several porn stars who can "carry a line," but, of course, the uptight public would never let one get a big budget part, and so its low rate "B" movies and soft core cable roles for anyone trying to break into the "main stream," from the "steam stream." That said, two women who come to mind for their thespian skills are Julia Ann and Kagney Lynn Carter, but both now, as is true with practically all the porn performers, have gravitated to the much easier and quicker gonzo route of porn, which like some huge parasite, "sucks," the creative juices out of adult film writers, directors and performers, not to mention the producers who will "always" opt for the cheaper route--Another one of the truly fine female feature performers is Jessica Drake. Among the male performers who have truly fine acting skills, imho, are Randy Spears, Stephen St Croix and Brad Armstrong, who with the "right breaks," could have been a top director with the "big boys, along with the now, retired Michael Raven. There are, of course, several others who could have made it in the main stream, but James Deen, is definitely not one of them, for after seeing his "wooden and stilted" performance in his recent "crossover" effort (can not even recall the title, for it was that bad)_its best, again, imho, that he "cross back and never look back."
I thought for sure someone would have said India Summer. Well, anyway, INDIA SUMMER. :) Also, almost every person who has performed for MOMS BANG TEENS does a fantastic job, both the "moms" and the "teens," male and female.
Of those I only own #2 , rented some others but India has a scene in the one I own , I've yet to see it though.
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Posted - Feb 22 2014 : 6:36PM
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Posted - Oct 8 2016 : 6:18PM
Would like to see examples of stars who can talk well,play various roles or any specific role in a convincing manner, and know how to be convincing when they are using dialogue.Stars who can act better than the rest can stand out more. I would say these stars deserve a mention since they know how to be convincing with their dialogue, acting before the scene and they know how to speak well: Riley Reid Brandi Love Kimmy Granger Simone Sonay Mistress T Kenna James Alli Rae Shyla Jennings Cherie Deville
It's difficult to make the contrast until a porn actor crosses over into mainstream. I don't know if there have been any but acting in porn doesn't offer much of a chance to demonstrate serious acting ability. I haven't seen any actors in porn that I'd be confident about their ability to cross over.
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Posted - Oct 9 2016 : 12:03PM
I'm no big fan of directors doing too much out of this and their products supporting it, but I can take an act or two prior to scenes. Especially Stoney Curtis. He's my man here. Or is it Chucky Sleaze. That is still a mystery to me. Anyways. Watching Stevie Shae and Chris Strokes in the bonus scene from I can't Believe I knocked Up Two Sluts # 2 the other day, taken from My Step Daughter Tossed My Sallad or something like that, this was a very good kinda roleplaying, kinda Hustler Barely Legal style, that had Stoney Curtis written all over it. Lots of humour. Lots of crazy reality from youth POV. Had this Barely Legal old school Hustler neverending project hired Mr Curtis in 2000, I believe the replay value would be skyrocketing compared to what it is. Stevie Shae is a natural blonde killer that could piss on everybody in the mainstream, and Strokes, when he said Are U DTF? Well it just went so good. That scene had everything I craved for plus great acting in it.
There might not be any great actors in porn but I think there are some who could act good enough to be in the right part in a mainstream movies or tv. There are plenty of actors in Hollywood who never studied acting and do an okay job of it. The main difference is those people are often working with a better script, get to work along side people who are good actors, have a director who knows how to get a good performance out of them and can take the time to do enough takes to get it right. Also, playing the right part. All those things can make a big difference in an acting performance. That's not to say having those things will make someone a good actor but they can raise the level of performance. Edited by - draxxx on 10/9/2016 1:44:26 PM
Currently , Riley , Remy and Penny I agree on . How about Jessie Andrews , Zoe Voss ? India Summer ,Zoey Holloway and Magdalene St Michaels in the milf catagory . Sinn Sage and Lily Cade in G/G only .
I'm gonna talk about some good male performer actors. The top two ones that come to mind are Steven St. Croix and Randy Spears, with the latter being a professionally trained actor. Isaiah Maxwell is another guy. James Deen and Xander Corvus also have some good chops too.
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Oct 13 2016 : 3:27PM
One flawed assumption here is that acting chops have something to do with success in Hollywood. There are great actors in Hollywood but there are as many successful mediocre or even bad actors there as well. And we're seeing the best of even the worse actors due to repeated takes, editing and the coaching of directors.
Yup; stick 'em on the stage to find out how really they really are. How many of the 'sports crossover' so-called Hollywood stars have even dared to tread the boards? There's no hiding and no second takes. I repeat, I've seen no one in porn who's persuaded me that they can act.
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Oct 14 2016 : 5:51AM
Paul Thomas played Peter in Norm Jewison's screen adaptation of Jesus Christ Superstar so he had the chops to make it on Broadway to a pretty significant degree.
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Posted - Oct 15 2016 : 5:25AM
Maybe, if dicks could act, he'd probably only have small roles.
OK, I'm backtracking a bit now. I'd forgotten Traci Lords who most certainly CAN act. I saw 'Excision' last night, an extraordinary film in which she plays a controlling mother. However, since I never saw any of her porn movies, my statement that I've never seen a star who can act is still strickly speaking accurate
I was surprised to read that James Deen starred alongside Lindsay Lohan in 'The Canyons" in a role originally intended for James Franco. I haven't seen it (don't imagine I ever will either) but the reviews of JD aren't very good.
^ I don't think anyone got good reviews, including the director. In fact, if anything JD emerged from the film relatively unscathed, presumably because people had no expectations. Stormy can act. She is good with comedy especially if she writes it. Lots of performers for Wicked were good--Kaylani Lei and Carmen Hart especially. David Stanley was great in his non-sex roles too.