Mylie Moore she could have been big, she only did a few scenes and then she was gone. I believe what hurted her is that she was type cast for a white girl with a big booty doing a lot of interracial and not mixing it up doing white males. That's just my guess.
I'd also like to add Franchezca Valentina Presley Maddox and Giana Lynn (post boob job)
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Posted - Dec 29 2012 : 8:57PM
Sandy Sweet(so so so petite) Austyn Moore(chick from Pirates) Carmen Lavuna Megan Monroe(that ass!) Jenny Hendrix(did alot but seeing what Jada Stevens has done, it wasn't enough) Katie Morgan
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Posted - Dec 29 2012 : 9:06PM
Carmen is definitely one I miss. One the few that started out smokin and actually got hotter. also +1 on Megan. She was definitely underrated.
Austyn had a couple of movies written with her in mind -- University of Austyn 1 and 2 come to mind. For some reason she didn't renew her contract with Adam and Eve and just disappeared. I found her performances OK, she would have better scenes in future movies if she had stayed and learned how to fuck for the camera (fucking on screen is a learning process for almost anyone).
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Posted - Dec 30 2012 : 1:06PM
honestly, I believe Shawna Lenee could have been bigger if she hadn't retired. Right when she was retired, I think she was about to really "blow up" from porn stardom standpoint. i'd also say dylan ryder. i think the bluebird contract was a terrible business move. Edited by - Idlewild66 on 12/31/2012 8:59:39 AM
I'll start by staying I know they made it, but they would've been even bigger stars: Courtney Simpson Ryan Conner Bobbi Bliss Vanessa Chase Marquetta Jewel Jesse V. Tatum Reed Andie Valentino
Samantha Ryan - would've been a bigger star had she performed her scene with brown hair instead of the blonde look. Jessie J. - she could have gone all the way.
If these three had crossed the pond they would have been bigger stars: Simona Julia Taylor Jane Darling
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Posted - Dec 30 2012 : 9:24PM
I agree with you on Julia Taylor. Maybe same with Monica Roccofarte as well?
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Posted - Dec 30 2012 : 10:26PM
My pick by a country mile Spectacular natural bod, amazing performances and not afraid of cum. But just a couple of dozen back in 2004 and that was it. I honestly thought she was going to be the next superstar.
Keri Sable and Katin were the first to come to my mind. Both should've been huge stars, but left before that happened. From what I understand, Katin moved onto the civilian world and is doing very well. Keri seems to have pretty much vanished when she left porn. And although she wasn't as "extreme" as some of the others that have been mentioned (she never did anal), Brooke Milano also could've/should've been a bigger star than she became. Pandora Dreams was another favorite of mine from that time period.
I've often wondered why some great performers who are good looking never really make it big in porn some girls who are merely okay looking and do so-so performances do really well and I just figured the agency they sign with must play a big part. Plus, I don't think a girl can never really "make it" unless they do regular work for certain big studios.
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Posted - Dec 31 2012 : 9:39AM
i think agency is a huge part, but I think its probably more to do with their entourage...i.e husband,boyfriend etc.
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Posted - Dec 31 2012 : 11:27AM
^ & ^^. Don't forget that sometimes its all about a "look" versus anything else. Let's use Katie St. Ives as an example, (no slight to Katie what so ever, just as an example, as I like Katie.) When Katie arrived in porn, thank the heavens for that, she had the short reddish hair look, and now she has a longer darker hair look. To the non Katie porn fan, a quick glance might not even register as being the same person. Do you remember the 1st time you saw Sunrise Adams in a Anabolic release and she was designated a star? On a looks scale she was about a 6 and so were her performance levels, but she caught your eye as there was something about her and immediately was elevated to star status. It's the same with Super Model world of mainstream. Lots of super models might be hot, and some only so so, but they have that certain look that the modeling world craves. If you ever saw Gisele Bundchen (sp) out of character and without makeup, you'd never even give her a second look.
^ Yeah looks play big a part but it's still a strange thing what "look" catches on with fans. I know looks are subjective but I think back to Alexis Texas. I think Alexis is pretty, has a certain look and has the ass thing going but in my mind Jenny Hendrix had about equal looks and booty plus she was a much more exciting performer yet Alexis became a much bigger and in demand star than Jenny. Again, it's subjective and my opinion but I never quite understood how girls can have similar looks and the more dynamic performer doesn't do as well as the less dynamic one.
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Posted - Dec 31 2012 : 7:50PM
^ Jenny's scene in Massive Asses 2 is one of the all time greats, but I think something often overlooked in Alexis Texas (as has been here and just since discussing these two) is her breasts, she really has the nicest small breasts around, perky and perfect. Also talking look Jenny changed her look when she got boltons, though not sure how long into her career that was? Edited by - draghixafan on 1/1/2013 3:19:36 AM
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Posted - Dec 31 2012 : 8:10PM
Both good points: Jenny's scene in MA 2 is great and Alexis' boobs are underrated. I think the things with Jenny is she changed her look a lot in a way I personally didn't find appealing, maybe lost a lot of weight as well, whereas Alexis has kept herself looking more natural and has really learned how to accentuate her butt in her scenes.
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Posted - Dec 31 2012 : 8:28PM
@pat362 - v - Yeah that's similar to what I mentioned in my two posts here but removed as I said didn't want to be hating on Jenny. I noticed that she got implants relatively soon and that they weren't the best. And did find she changed her appearance noticeably with the implants, as BlackSix said weight loss and as you say facial alteration which I was unaware of, and I raised what I felt was excessive makeup which was probably more related to that. Edited by - draghixafan on 1/1/2013 6:58:44 PM
There's one glairing difference between Alexis and Jenny and it's that Alexis never changed her looks throughout her career but Jenny decided to alter her appearance at an early time in her career and that can help a performer's career or it can hinder it. Jenny had that cute teen look but it's hard to maintain when you get some big implants. then there are the facial alterations to consider as well. I think Jenny was a superior performer and was certainly open to doing alot more thigs in porn which shoud have made her the more appealing of the two. not to mention that she worked with a lot more male talent than Alexis. The only thing that Alexis seems to have done more is lesbian porn but I don't know if that would have made such a difference if Jenny had done more.
^ Several of you mention that Jenny Hendrix got implants and changed her looks but that didn't happen right away. She was around for awhile before she got implants and didn't have them during the first year or so of Alexis Texas' debut. Alexis was really popular right off the bat while Jenny the superior performer with looks and body about on par with Alexis had success but not in the league of the type Alexis had. It's not really a putdown of Alexis but a head scratcher on Jenny. If I make another comparison...like the Gianna Michaels vs Brandy Talore the outcome makes more sense. For a short while Gianna and Brandy seem like they were battling it out for the industry's newest big tit girl. Brandy had the lead in the beginning and was arguably better looking (facially) than Gianna but Gianna blew her out of the water with her performance skills and went on to become much more popular. That makes more sense to me than what happened than the whole Alexis vs Jenny thing. I guess there are many similar examples in porn.
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Posted - Jan 2 2013 : 12:12AM
i would argue that Gianna only "won" because she did interracial. nothing to with do with performance skills.. Edited by - Idlewild66 on 1/2/2013 12:12:56 AM
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Posted - Jan 2 2013 : 12:39AM
^^ I think a big factor not yet mentioned is anal. Jenny I would put in a kind of Tory Lane camp of angryish anal whereas Alexis did rarely. When a girl does a lot of hard anal in quick succession for me kind of loses a bit of interest at the point and where to go, whereas I think a girl who doesn't do anal or rarely, much like the sexual tension in TV, maintains the interest.. also the forever hope that one day she'll give up that butt (again). Also by comparison Alexis had the kind of girl next door natural innocence which will usually win out for me. Gianna v Brandy .. "ain't the same fuckin' ballpark, it ain't the same league, it ain't even the same fuckin' sport." .. I suspect everyone when they saw her first scenes at Bangbros with her 'spectacular' tits bouncing around in wet t-shirts knew she was going to be a superstar.
Really? You think Brandy and Gianna performance skills are are equal? To each his/her own but I think Gianna is a far better performer than Brandy. More energic, fun to watch, seemed be much more into the sex, and much more charm and personality. With Gianna the IR was just a bonus.
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Posted - Jan 2 2013 : 2:53PM
with one of the best racks ever in gonzo, tough for anyone to compete. I think maybe Anita Queen? Could be a personal preference but similar time-frame, brunette with similar amazing perfect natural rack plus she did plenty of anal with a nice healthy bush (sometimes to healthy), but nowhere near the fame of Gianna.
I don't think Brandy Talore is even remotely close to being in the same league as Gianna, the only thing Brandy had going for herself were her big tits, she was a complete bore, not one of scenes are memorable.
IDLEWILD66 - I must have watched different porn over the last ten years than what you watched. I WANTED to like Brandy Talore over the years, but she was a consistent buzzkill. Make that "woodkill". Brandy always looked like she was there for the check, and not much else. Gianna Michaels always looked like she was having the time of her life. Even if she wasn't. And by her energy and enthusiasm, she always made her partner put in work. Or get disrespected. No one broke a sweat during Brandy Talore's scenes. Not her, not her partners, not me watching. To even mention these two in the same discussion about "performance" is pretty incredible, let alone compare Brandy favorably with Gianna. BSD
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Posted - Jan 2 2013 : 8:10PM
Same here, I think it was because she had a skin issue and used to cover it up. Anna Belle was another contender, very sexy and enthusiastic and one of the 3 reasons the others being Naudia and Daisy why Rain Coater's Point Of View #2 was such a legendary DVD.
I've never heard of Anita Queen. So if Anita was really on par with Gianna in the looks and body department and did anal to boot we have to ask why didn't Anita because as popular as Gianna (or Brandy)? Was it because of her not being as good a performer? Signed with the wrong agency? Not as pretty? Any thoughts on this?
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Posted - Jan 2 2013 : 9:45PM
^ You gotta let Brandy go :D I think could be a few reasons, doing a direct comparison now I see her breasts are not as big, other factors maybe was considered more a European than US star?? But also had so many different names.. Alena, Alexandria, Bellissima, Kristina and finally Anita Queen. For a good example of her performances I'd recommend Natural Wonders of the World 28. A couple of pics.. {new pics} Edited by - draghixafan on 1/7/2013 3:17:09 PM
I don't know if she was famous enough or not enough, but for me it's Autumn Austin. She was amazing and had a very unique beauty. Now it seems like nobody remembers her (at least that's the impression I get).
LOL! Let me make it clear I have nothing against Brandy T. I just used her as a comparison because as I mentioned for a little while it seemed she was going to be the next big tit girl and it didn't happen. I think it's an interesting discussion talking about girls who are similar and one becomes a big hit and the other doesn't. Another interesting comparison in my mind is Angelina Valentine/Mason Moore. To me they both have the same kind of vibe. For awhile Angelina seemed to be the fav then Mason started doing anal/harder stuff and pulled ahead. Then Angelina started getting harder and pulled ahead again. This might not match other people's take but that's the way I saw it.
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Posted - Jan 3 2013 : 2:04PM
^ :D I agree and really enjoyed the discussions, make a great new thread? So what's the verdict on Anita Queen? Seems so unknown found it tough to find a picture that really does her justice, but again could be a personal thing. The inverted nipples might also have been a factor. Edited by - draghixafan on 1/3/2013 2:37:26 PM
^ She's nice looking but she doesn't have stand out looks. The breasts are nice. I'm fairly sure I'd like her in the right production from the right studio. The fact that she's a Euro girl may explain why she's not well known in the US. If she never or only occasionally shot in the US with one of the more popular US studios she probably didn't get much exposure. But even if she had gotten that type of exposure it seems most Euro girls become as popular as their American counter parts in the US no matter who good a performer or how good looking they are. I personally think a lot of the Euro girls are better performers overall than most of the US girls but they don't get much exposure unless they live in the US. I think I tend to put Euro girls in different catagory. When I watch Euro girls I'm looking for and expecting harder sex and a different feel. There's something more naturalistical about the look and vibe from them. Not many of the American girls can perform in that way and project the type of vibe I'm talking about. Edited by - draxxx on 1/3/2013 8:52:30 PM
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Posted - Jan 3 2013 : 9:25PM
^ Completely agree with every Euro point you raised and why I raised it too, plus with the names in the beginning found it almost impossible to track down her movies because she used so many different names. Looks for sure a personal thing but yeah struggled to find a pic which really showed off how hot she can look. But also she does have something I sometimes find in common with Euro girls in general, and tough to describe but features more angular and striking (like you often find it supermodels) which I also find very sexy, like Marketa Brymova for example.. Edited by - draghixafan on 1/4/2013 1:37:11 AM
Ada Costa. Did a couple of good movies involving anal and a swallow but went away quickly. Great body, including very nice tits and a great round ass. She was in great shape but wasn't too skinny so she has what I think is the perfect porn body. Along with that, she had a beautiful face with incredible lips. Would love to see a comeback but I doubt it. She did a lot of heavy, body crushing sex so maybe it was too much for her.
Someone mentioned Riley Mason. Don't know if she's still on there but over the summer she was on MyFreeCams to my surprise. I talked to her a few times. I can't say she's bitter at porn but came off honest and disappointed that she didn't make nearly the money she thought she would have with it. She believed she'd make a ton when she first got into it. I can't post pics from my phone but I loved a little redhead called Little Dynamite/Dynamite. She did a couple teen babysitter scenes that are hugely popular today on free sites. Edited by - Jake Rabbit on 1/4/2013 10:55:42 PM Edited by - Jake Rabbit on 1/4/2013 11:12:59 PM
I remember Dynamite. My theory on her is back in the day she mostly worked for EXTREME ASSOCIATES and really didn't do a whole lot of stuff for anyone else (I may be wrong about that). Plus, she was pretty small with small breasts and a cute face. She probably would've been big (or bigger) as a barely legal pornstar but as far as I know she didn't do much if any of that. But thinking about Dynamite reminds me that the reason some pornstars never made it big was because they only mostly worked for one or a couple of companies/studios and didn't work for anyone else. EXTREME ASSOCIATES had a few girls like that and so does studios like SCORE and PRIVATE and perhaps a few others.
Cecilia Vega :( So amazing and yet so brief. Every scene she did was fantastic. Never did hear why she suddenly retired though. Does anyone know? Also, in a totally different way, Gauge. Gauge made an explosive impact on the early days the web/porn internet with handstanding anal, and was around for a while. Then she did a couple of DAPs and was suddenly gone. While she certainly was successful after a fashion, I've always thought she had the possibility to become as big as Jenna Jameson, Tera Patrick or Sasha Grey. But instead she left to go to club dancing.
Riley has been gone from the porn industry for about 5 to 6 years. She had did have a lot of potential but I think that she wasn't too open about trying different things and that tends to limit your options. I do know that she left the industry and started escorting soon after that irt not before leaving. Her site was basically a way for her to get escort business. P.S: Dynamites scene are also quite popular on paid sites and that is where you should be getting your porn as opposed to tube sites.
Actually Dynamite worked for a lot more studios than just Extreme Associates. She only has 7 titles out 135 that were with Extreme. IAFD has 135 titles attached to her which is more than a decent amount when you consider that she was only in the industry for about 3-4 years. She had that cute teen look which is good in the beginning but can get tiresome when you consider that she was in her twenties and she probably would have wanted some older roles.
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