With the high-definition cameras now in the hands of true amateurs more ideas are being pushed into the industry. More and more women are pushing erotic and sensual ideas into mainstream porn, and more and more women are watching now and will tell you openly. At some point the gonzo and erotic porn will make a very small segment of excellent porn that people enjoy. Then again it's already happening.
I hardly ever read these types of threads because for all the complaining about porn going on, in my opinion porn is just fine...it's the fans who are the problem. As I read through a lot of people who post on this site it becomes obvious very quickly that many of the people here watch and are into a very specific type of porn and only want to watch that type of type of stuff and dismiss the other types of porn out there that doesn't fit into that narrow cast. It's strange to think you can basically watch the same stuff over and over with the only real variation being the cast and not expect to get bored or jaded by it at some point. It just forces directors to come up with ridiculous acts to try and keep them interested. If they're tired of DPs then maybe double anal will get them worked up. They seem to like spitting so lets spit even more. Look! Look! This girl is gaping and showing the inside of her anus! It's not actual sex or pretty but it's another thing we can do to a woman, isn't it exciting?! I actually feel sorry for the directors who have to come these things to try and keep the audience engaged. It's gone past extreme sex to "What else can we do to her?". Since most of that crowd has zero interest in stories/vignettes the directors the only tools they have is try and get more outrageous. And of course the people who are into stories/vignettes are disappointed because they aren't getting plot heavy stories because people are pumping out more porn faster and don't have time to devote to trying to make every scene clever or deep or involved and because most of today's audience just wants to keep things moving and to get to the sex and the story needs to just serve to get the players in motion. Everyone is never going to be happy because everyone wants something different and the only thing people can agree on is they aren't getting what they want. If a studio/director read this thread the only thing they'd get from it is everyone has their own ideas about what good porn is.
Jean-Marie Corda seems to have the right idea with sweetyx - pretty girls, reasonable storyline but not too long to the action, and sex that they all genuinely look to be enjoying. It has a sort of realistic look to it that you rarely find - possibly because he's French and not American. No violence, no DAP, plenty of kissing, nothing too strong - just nice enjoyable sex. Let's return to the days of good old wholesome pornography!
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Posted - Nov 14 2017 : 1:35AM
Despite the rise of patriarchal numbskulls masquerading as fans on the internet, expecting the industry to cater to their human errors and paid digital agents masquerading as general users or mods on sites like these to promote garbage made by charlatans and sycophants in the industry who just want to make money and attain empty stardom, making the least amount of efforts and thereby creating content that's so utterly devoid of anything "wholesome" that it's basically necrophilia compared to what it should be, I still stand by the notion that porn is in a better now then ever but one must admit that there have been some significant loses over the years. I'm talking of course about the whole "Squirt Woman" culture the way that only William H. could direct and Harmony Vision, combining hardcore sex, stylish bdsm and dark ambient music. Sadly the golden age of squirt has passed, sure they still make those kind of movies and they're still really good at times but it's not comparable to those days when William H. stood brave heartedly at the frontlines of female ejaculation and made it the next big thing. I mean take Flower's Squirt Shower's scene with Annie Cruz & Billy Glide for example... they don't really make them like that anymore, now do they?. And it went beyond just making some porn, those woman represented a entire culture of alpha woman with exceptional abilities that leaves most of society absolutely clueless as to how to fucking process it. Cause nowadays, you basically can't make genuine squirt scene without some adult cry baby saying: wait, that's just piss, isn't it?. Sigh... you know some things in nature aren't meant to be clearly defined but only to be embraced with one's entire being and female ejaculation is one of those things. Sex is realm of magic, take you're science elsewhere!. As far as the future of squirt goes, my main bets are on Alexis Fawx, she has one of the most powerful pussies I've ever seen and is most definitely a certified squirter in my book, proven capable of delivering volcanic and passionate bursts instead of lame and innocent streams that are not representative of the art at all. And Harmony Vision was also something really special man, with directors like Tanya Hyde (think Mason's gothic niece) and a great set of male performers like Jay Snake (think Scott Nails on acid) and even Danny D on some occasions. Yeah man, nothing says "living the good life" like being stuck in jail, having a busty French prison guard riding you're massive cock reverse anal cowgirl style while screaming out loud: Puta Madre!. Kind of wish the Harmony crew of back then would just pack their bags and move to LA to take over kink.com and reboot it all together and show them how it's done right.
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Snowbunny Sorcerer Deactivated User
She's hot but not my type of stroke game, I don't play sword fights with that which mirrors me. 146 Posts 5/17
Posted - Nov 14 2017 : 12:25PM
you're watching too much porn, take a months break, then see how "bored" you really are.
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Posted - Nov 14 2017 : 1:22PM
I want to know how you just blew up like this and and acquired a contract distribution deal with one of the biggest distribution companies in porn without much experience prior. You're obviously talented and driven, but you must have had some kind of connections to be given such a lucrative opportunity so fast in your fledgling porn career.
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A_Fan Deactivated User
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Posted - Nov 14 2017 : 2:36PM
I honestly think a lot of it has to do with this. People don't acknowledge you can have "porn burnout". Sometimes a break from porn is very helpful to re energize the enjoyment. I usually refrain from porn watching scenes when I travel out of the country (several times a year) and that keeps it fresh so when I come back I am excited to watch new material that was released while I was away. I have had times in my life where i watched too much, and it felt routine and the excitement level went down and it became an obligation (have to keep up with the releases) versus a pleasure. I also found (and this is not for everyone I know), that sharing porn with your partner is very rewarding. I used to always watch it alone (still do often), but now that I am confident with sexuality and to tell any and all people I date that I enjoy porn it is great to share it. That invigorates a lot of the routine and changes the dynamics of porn viewing if you can share some of it with a partner from time to time. I find my excitement level is a lot higher if I can share a new Romi Rain scene with a girlfriend versus just alone, or show her what a gangbang is like thanks to Riley Reids recent release (for example). Something for people to think about. I mean, everything that can be thought of is done and if someone is at the point that they dislike a scene over tiny matters like her heels are too tall or too short or her lipstick is the wrong shade, is indication that break would be healthy!
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Looking for scenes 1. In a set up where the girl, say lonely, gets into sexual relations with all the guys visiting her house through the day . Say, plumber, electrician, mechanic, pizza guy,,, one after the other.... 2. Guy is tied n blindfolded... Girl licks , sucks his chest, sucks n handjobs him, leaves him - ruined orgasm, rehandjobs, again leaves -ruined orgasm.... So on.... Multiple ejaculations
Hi guys,,,, so. ......... so much of porn talks... But with pride I m able to squeeze out unique situations, albeit just ask for unique scenes. Obviously I was unable to find these kind of scenes after thorough search..... Looking for a scene where many men are tied up and a horny girl handjobs them, one by one to a earth shattering, shivering orgasms. Best if she swallows the loads ... Pls pls find me these scenes. Highly obliged
This sounds like a horny scene. I'd also like to see the reverse---one tied-up guy and a lineup of girls jacking his crazily hard cock in fast succession. Have never seen these types of scenes before.
I'm 40 now and my personal "golden age" of porn was probably the late 90ies to early 2000s. Good scenes, attractive women, wild (but not rough) sex, no choking or degrading the girls and not every scene had to be some circus act like triple dap. I honestly don't feel less horny than in my twens, it's just that I have become way more picky when it comes to the stuff to watch and I don't like the direction that porn has taken in the last decade. I really wish we again had movies like those that Private made in the second half of the 90ies. Or late 90ies style Italian/French porn (but please no Marc Dorcel, I always found him boring). Edited by - jameson2k4 on 12/4/2017 6:16:50 PM
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Ronald Deactivated User
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Posted - Dec 4 2017 : 6:20PM
more triple pen, DP, double Vag! and less tats and hairy pussy!
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Posted - Dec 5 2017 : 2:02AM
Not porn but HIGHLY erotic, lascivious and sensual twist of beautiful kinky woman. https://www.clips4sale.com/studio/86735/wanilianna
Less identical crap, more sleaze and bush! 2378 Posts 7/09
Posted - Dec 5 2017 : 2:15AM
Lots of gangbangs scenes have the dudes lined up and the girl works her way down the line but never jerking them to completion just fluffing before the main event. Really like the idea of one bound dude and lots of girls, but instead of fast succession say a scene that is a Handjob Edging Relay where one girl after the other first teases then strokes the guy to the edge and stops, each girls starting tease gives him time to recover before the stroking starts again, repeat this with say half a dozen girls before they all join in together to make him cum.
"Pornography: That which excites, whether from approval or disapproval." ~ Leonard Rossite 2342 Posts 12/17
Posted - Dec 15 2017 : 10:53PM
I don't see this happening simply because we live in a male dominated society where men are expected to pursue women, to court them and ask them on dates etc. It's a sad day in porn when the idea of a woman taking the reins and seducing as many men or women as she pleases is still considered revolutionary. Sinful Scorpio, Passionate Aries
"Pornography: That which excites, whether from approval or disapproval." ~ Leonard Rossite 2342 Posts 12/17
Posted - Dec 15 2017 : 10:56PM
I dislike formulaic porn but what gets me every time is seduction, major foreplay and even a n amount of resistance from the person being eventually seduced. I don't always appreciate it when it's just easily given up but there is something to be said for experts of seduction who know exactly how to play that psychological game. Sinful Scorpio, Passionate Aries
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Posted - Dec 17 2017 : 4:10AM
Double/Triple Penetration with Vibrators turned up to 10. Ideally how about 3 giant Vibrators in a girls ass all turned on full blast at the same time + A Hitachi on the girls clit. The girls decide when to stop, Not the director. Call it "Buzzing Babes?"
So, let's talk about the future of porn. You know, you can do that. There are websites that will put you in contact with girls and women around who would be more than happy to act out your fantasies. You could easily find group of girls who would take turns on the dildos. Some would do it in front of a webcam, but I am sure that it would not be impossible to add some production value and hire some skilled photographs. If you then want to recapture some of the production costs, there are sites where you could sell the clips. Or let the girls do so in return for some substantial discounts. In the future, I see crowdfunding and kickstarter-like sites coming into this. If you have an idea, start a project, bring some people in, find some talent and have fun. Or just find horny girls asking to do what you want. Connecting performers and consumers across platforms is the future; the studios and production companies will probably be a thing of the past soon apart as providers of some specialized equipment. Webcams is the disruption. Go read "The Innovator's Dilemma" and "Platform Revolution". Then go and do interesting things to a young girl's ass. :-)
I'd like them to go back to the style of the early 2,000's Some nice lounges or bedrooms - none of this white background shit A nice girl dances or an interview and then fucks the guy. But with todays HD and close ups and gaping etc. I have a few suggestions for some scenes that I might send to some directors to do with gangbangs etc.
I just realized that there is nothing new for them to do. They've run out. Take a look on the internet, there is everything imaginable already. This is the final word on this subject, ladies and gentleman. Thread over.
I totally disagree. Instead I see huge opportunities for creative producers. Perhaps everything you can imagine, but no one ever said that meaningful innovation was easy. New and new; I see a large gap in the market and that is for girls performing in public and for an audience. Think about it, a girl getting DPd in the middle of the town square. There has been some good things made like this; I am thinking of Angelina Crow's epic scene with Eric Everhard in, I believe, Budapest (Nudapest? ;-) ) and Public Disgrace. But there is more ground to explore in this genre. Think of the latest trend with camgirls masturbating in public libraries. I would also guess that live events, like camgirls but in larger and even orgy-like settings, will become more prevalent; and the live character and the possibility to interact and direct the action will be a competitive advantage vis-a-vis tube-sites that producers will embrace. This is why I implore producers and performers to study up on things like disruption, innovation, and platforms; this is how they will be able to not only defend themselves against tube-sites but to turn them into an actual asset and marketing tool. Why waste time on figuring out what the audience likes when you can let the audience direct the action? Crowd soucrce the innovation: "The most straightforward way to engage a crowd is to create a contest. The sponsor (the company) identifies a specific problem, offers a cash prize, and broadcasts an invitation to submit solutions." (Boudreau & Lakhani, 2013). Thing like that would be marketing in itself. The word of warning I would direct to the industry is that if you are not careful you will ALL be replaced by the actors who are today running the cam- and tube-sites, and those people traveling the 3rd world with a camcorder. Together they will have the platforms, the technical solutions, and the mass of talent required to produce individualized entertainment for the masses. Today, people easily pay way more for a ten-minute experience with a average looking camgirl than they would ever pay for a full-length DVD with the most stunning performers in the business, and I think that the traditional volume producers will find the world increasingly difficult. Traditional porn, even Internet-based, is a legacy media, and will go the same way as newspapers and network tv. It will have to adapt to the new technology and the new business models emerging. At that guy (Giorgio) from LP was whining about in another thread: models earn the same as they did ten years ago while everything costs twice as much. Well, time to wake up and smell the coffee then. How do you get people to pay twice as much for the model? Doubling the number of dicks in the gangbang or the size of the dildo in her ass does not seem to be the solution. Yet much less attractive camgirls can get by on offering one-on-one interaction over the Internet, and many performers escort or work as camgirls and seem mostly to use their porn work marketing for that. Just doing more of the same will not bring different results. -------------------------- Boudreau, Kevin J., and Karim R. Lakhani. "Using the crowd as an innovation partner." Harvard business review 91.4 (2013): 60-9. APA
Still bored - nothing but more and more and more of the same old thing. Maybe it's my age. How about more of these though: Behind the scenes stuff - something a bit different, and surely cheap to make? Porn bloopers - again not greatly done and cheap to make. Porn producers are still struggling to find something new, but in reality there's very little new that hasn't been done already at some point in the past. Like incest - daddy daughter, mother son, brother sister. All done before, but now we have Nubiles Myfamilypies just to add to the list - the whole family joins in a Christmas fuckfest together. Wholesome!
While I agree with Ovidius (^^) regarding the evolution of the porn experience, in terms of funding, channels of distribution and broadcast, and fan/performer interactivity and connectedness, I (given my age) am likely to miss that boat. Moreover, despite the increasing potential for disruption, the last 20 years has mostly seen an increase in volume of the traditional porn form (ie performative sex mediated by a third party behind the lens). The explosion in content is a direct result of Moore's Law and the various platforms enabled by the orders of magnitude increase in processing power; the concomitant global digitisation has facilitated seamless accessibility. Porn is now a utility. Unsurprisingly, pretty much every genre has been played out, which, while certainly giving impetus to the development of innovative forms, leaves us currently with an overload of conventionally attractive women performing sex in decreasingly erotic, increasingly mundane 'fantasies'. The rot has set in, the industry is over-mature. But the same could be said about most western commercial cultural production. Appropriation, eclecticism, hybridisation, are not innovation but merely strategies to avoid disruption. Where re-boots, sequels and franchises are mainstream tactics to generate new (as in recently manufactured, rather than fresh) product, porn is left with baroque re-castings of family relationships, fetishisation of body parts and bodily functions, and ethnic stereotyping. As opposed to the 90s when porn was just bad, it truly has become dull, which is infinitely worse. The only thing that keeps me watching is the occasional need to wank.
I don't think we need to return to the days of a plot in every scene, but some setup and exploration of the girl before, during and after is sorely missing these days. It raised the bar of how enjoyable the sex can be. I don't necessarily mean full on interviews but it's such a turn on when stars talk about their experiences in a real way and what they expect from the scene - whether it's a gonzo style "I know I'm gonna get fucked" or a more fantasy style scenario. Example of this would be the chat about sex experiences pre scene in Gang Bang 2 - it would be so much hotter seeing a crazy circus act if we knew their thoughts and how much the girl was dreading or looking forward to it. It builds the expectation and makes the acts more of a payoff rather than just seeing something outlandish.
I think it would be great if we had more tight short stories in porn, instead of crappy vignettes (looking at you, Brazzers!!) and feature films, which appear to be mostly dead. A great example of this would be the classic Cream Lemon hentai OVA series (yes, I know most people here don't like anime at all but bear with me). The episodes "Black Cat Manor" & "Be My Baby" are a perfect example of how to tell well-written short stories in porn. Sure, there's not THAT much sex in either of the episodes, but the integration of the sex with the plot is pitch perfect. I'd like to get some current story-centric porn directors to sit down & watch thise episodes to learn to do short, story-based porn right.
Interesting, that seems to be the power that future porn will capture and bring to the audience. As I speculate above, future porn will be much more participatory for the audience; maybe the boundaries will dissolve in many cases and we will have a large co-created work?OT: Lexington Steele in their asses?:D I had never seen Ms. White before, did not even know that she existed. But now I have found a woman I will enjoy watching. It took me some time to write this response, because I just had to stop a few times and research Ms. White and her BBC anal skills. Thank you!
The member above was saying some good stuff about live sex/public orgies, etc., except I don't really understand the direct-it- yourself angle (Ok you girls lick each other, you take that cock down your throat--and her, lick his balls while he fucks her); so it's one guy doing this, and they are all following his commands? What about everyone else watching? And is this over the internet? Not a live, in the flesh show in front of a live audience, right? Or both? It sounds like just a more elaborate cam-show. The only thing I can really think of is those futuristic sex suits stimulating your cock while you watch some hot sex and it is actually as if you were doing it--but better. The suit provides tactile sensations that you cannot even produce yourself, and the images you are watching are real beyond real. Add some amyl nitrate to that experience and it's going to be some intense sexual pleasure. Then they have to add smell-o-vision as well, and I guess taste, to cover all of the senses.
You see this in camshows today; a girl is performing for a large on-line audience, and she takes tips and requests for acts to perform. Most viewers seem to be watching for free, it's the guys calling the shots that pay. This is the freemium model: the product is free, but premium content, such as being able to have your particular fetishes acted out, costs extra. I can imagine that it would be quite a kick to order some girl around in-front of 500 spectators. So this business model is already in use. And, yes, it IS a camshow. Now add a script and a pre-performance chat so that the customer can make sure that the girl is properly coached and knows what to do. Camshows are establishing themselves, they are building the platforms, the technical solutions, and the userbase through a product that still has some flaws. But the concept will evolve, and then traditional porn will be in big, big trouble. Here is an idea: in surgery surgeons are today using robots to perform surgery long-distance, in battlefield situations etc. The robot can manipulate all the surgical tools etc. Now, imagine doing this in porn. A robot that allows the user to manipulate a girls genitals long-distance. Open them, spread them, penetrate them, explore them with fiber optics, stimulate them, measure sexual excitement through plethysmograps (you must get some feedback on how you are doing, right?). Now, imagine doing this to your favorite porn-girl with 5,000 people watching. But regarding the live, in-the-flesh show, I think that there is a future there. I believe that many people would love to see sexual acts performed in public. Through the magic of the Internet, they could then watch and participate in the privacy of their own homes. The best of two worlds. Just watch Angelina fuck in the central square and try to tell me that it is not hot to watch her interact with the passersby. Anyhow, the legal issues seem to be challenging.Tactile feedback and smells are being developed for on-line use as we speak; of course they all say that it is for retail, but we all know where it will be put to use. I believe that in a few years you will be able to feel exactly how it feels, and smells, when you are fucking your favorite girl with a dildo. At the same time as the dildo is actually fucking her, held by a robot that you operate remotely. At least long distance relationships will become more interesting. :D
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Jan 2 2018 : 6:32PM
Don't agree with everything you say but I do agree here. Ironically the tubesites are killing the production of quality niche porn genres like black-on-black, features, etc. Edited by - BlackSix on 1/2/2018 6:33:31 PM
Recently between jerking off to the hardcore gonzo style I love, and watching non porn nerd stuff I also love; I came up with an idea. Combine them both. And I don't just mean parody features. I mean combine the best of both worlds. I've seen real hardcore talent perform in features, but never seen them go as far as they have gone in gonzo. Picture this scene: A rebel from the Puritan Alliance is captured by the galactic Porn fleet. Instead of a one on one interrogation scene. She is left to the mercy of like 10 space-troopers who show her that resistance to The galactic Porn Fleet is useless. Hard-fucking-core blowbang/gangbang ensues. at its conclusion. she is left naked, sweaty, and a general mess, stranded somewhere as a message to her friends. The rest of the movie would play out similarly, and I'm sure you can see where the idea is going. I'd jerk the fuck off to it, and I'm sure others would too lol
IMO I think 2017 wasn't such a bad year totally. We seen some stunning performers who made a breakthrough in the industry, Lena Paul, Ella Nova, Kimber Woods, Elena Koshka. But for me I go through phases where I want to watch porn that has great chemistry (Lesbian X) to when there isn't any chemistry at all. (Facialized) The problem with most porn these days is the camerawork, too many static shots where the cameraman is sitting too far away. It takes away too much ideas that could've been used if otherwise, I can understand why Mason gave up with Erotica X.
"Pornography: That which excites, whether from approval or disapproval." ~ Leonard Rossite 2342 Posts 12/17
Posted - Jan 25 2018 : 10:55PM
Strange, I always found the issue wasn't the camera work often but simply an appalling lack of chemistry between performers. And don't get me started on those who play to the camera, that gets dull fast because half the fun is in being highly voyeuristic and feeling like you're watching something you shouldn't. Sinful Scorpio, Passionate Aries
Not a new idea at all but as a fan of public outdoor scenes I would like to see an attempt at a "cum sharking" movie or possibly a couple of scenes featuring it.Public outdoor movie from (example) Bryan Gozzling or Maestro Claudio ,if a whole movie of it is too much then 3 outdoor scenes with 1 cum sharking scene. I can give examples of how scene would play out...
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steverino Deactivated User
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Posted - Jan 26 2018 : 10:16AM
The only porn worth making is GANGBANG porn, especially Black on White gangbangs. You really can't go wrong here, with extra points earned though certain features. For example, the younger, the prettier, the fairer, and the more innocent looking the girls, the better! Also, the bigger, the darker, the more ghetto/thuggish, and the greater the number of guys, the better. Extra quality points are earned by including: DP, Airtight, DAP, DPP, DPP+A, and DAP+P in various combinations. Also, the more sperm, the better, which should all eventually find its way into the girl's mouth to be SWALLOWED, but not before abundant gargling and other sperm-play. Multiple girls can add to the fun, but only to the extent that they perform abundant ATOGM, PTOGM, Creampie Eating, and Cum Swapping.
I finally saw something new(ish). Tutorhim. Women of various ages (generally youngish) with young looking guys. Wish there would be more sex, but at least the guys finally look different. That's something.
^ It's not like they're making that many of them nowadays (in US porn, anyway), so that should comfort you.
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steverino Deactivated User
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Posted - Jan 26 2018 : 4:00PM
To each his own.
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Posted - Jan 26 2018 : 4:06PM
This is true and it's perplexing. I can pretty much go out and find a young, pretty chick to bang on my own whenever I feel like It. I can even get two chicks in a threesome from time to time. Ganfbangs are an entirely different matter. I wouldn't know how to put one together, and I wouldn't feel comfortable to participate if I did. Gangbangs therefore remain strictly in the realm of fantasy for just about everyone. That being the case, I would have expected gangbang porn to be the largest category being produced.
My wife and I would LOVE to see a gangbang in which the woman wasn't degraded. The same with women pegging men. Must so much sex be degrading? Even places like TrenchcoatX seem to think that's normal. It's a turn off to a lot of people! UGH.
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