You make an excellent, and highly relevant, point. And I think you've hit the nail on the head. So much of what's produced now is violent, aggressive and downright sick - with constant demands in this forum for more and more of it, more penises in the same hole, more slapping, more violence towards women, more gagging, vomit - you name something unpleasant and there's a demand for more of it. The Bryan Gozzling thread is a classic example of it - whatever he does to his 'victim' people want it done harder. I don't blame him - he's just reacting to demands. Whatever is supplied by the producers is never enough. Porn's a drug - it satisfies you for a while, but then you want something harder, stronger, more extreme. What next? Scat? Animals? Snuff? Amputations? Where does it stop? I'm not remotely against porn - I've been consuming it and enjoying it for a very long time. But in recent years, probably coinciding with its easy availability, it's lost its power to 'satisfy' (by which I mean basically a quick wank watching a sex scene) very quickly, leaving people wanting more - so the studios provide it. It used to be the case that you got bored with a particular actress. You watched her, you wanked off to her for a while, then you lost interest and moved on to a new one. Now there's so much easily available porn around people lose interest not just in the one actress but the whole straight sex thing and demand more and more perversions just to bring themselves off on it. Only it doesn't work. You think it will, but it never lasts. You just need stronger and stronger - probably until the point that ordinary sex with a partner isn't possible any more without extreme stimuli to make it work. No idea what the answer is - the genie's out of the bottle now, and there's probably no way of putting it back.
Certainly it's nothing new. It's always been there. But it used to be very much a minority interest, very much hidden away, difficult to access, and it was largely freaks and deviants who bought it. Now it's everywhere, normalised, and the more people see of it the more extreme they want it to be. Fine, I suppose - but it's lazy, and bloody boring!
The Grandma training teen to be good whore theme has got legs F-M-F threeway with girl-girl strap-on fucking included (dp, fucking with oral) F-F strap-on fucking in the middle of a gangbang with several men Edited by - pinkyfan on 2/6/2018 3:30:49 AM
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Feb 6 2018 : 3:44AM
American porn is not getting more extreme, quite the opposite. Hard X and Greg Lansky are the most succesful hardcore porn in the US and they hardly fit your description. Also your idea that porn is a drug that leads to 'harder' stuff may be true for yourself but hardly true for others. Many develop a taste for more glam porn, g/g, solo, tease, kissing, kinky or even trans or gay material. It is not some endless spiral of rougher and rougher sex. Not that anything is the matter with BDSM. No offense but your spiel says more about your own relationship to porn that others, don't presume to speak for everyone.
[/quote] American porn is not getting more extreme, quite the opposite. Hard X and Greg Lansky are the most succesful hardcore porn in the US and they hardly fit your description. Also your idea that porn is a drug that leads to 'harder' stuff may be true for yourself but hardly true for others. Many develop a taste for more glam porn, g/g, solo, tease, kissing, kinky or even trans or gay material. It is not some endless spiral of rougher and rougher sex. Not that anything is the matter with BDSM. No offense but your spiel says more about your own relationship to porn that others, don't presume to speak for everyone. [/quote] American porn isn't the only porn in the world, however important some Americans (including the idiot man baby President) might think America is. There are other countries in the world, and many of them produce porn, believe it or not. This forum (just take a look at the thread titles) is a clear indication of what's happening, and it's nothing whatever to do with my own relationship to porn - I'm the one advocating a return to gentler days, for God's sake! :)
^ Are you referring to the "gentler days" when we had a shitload of White Trash Whore, Gangbang Girl, Max Hardcore and American Cock Sucking Challenge videos to enjoy?
All these heavily scripted movies suck. Yeah back in the 1980s and 1990s they had scripts too, but the difference is those scripts were funny. If you have nothing funny to say, don't bother with a script. Just get on with the sex. And please stop all the fake moaning. If you're a chick who's just doing porn for the money better to say nothing than fake moan. Fake moaning fools no one, and it's VERY irritating.
^^I can't be sure but I think that he is because while you are 100% correct that there was extreme porn being made in the 90's and afterward. You have to realise that it was only a small part of the total porn made at the time and it was also a portion of the porn the more extreme studios made. Probably the biggest producers of a more extreme type of porn in the 90's were JM Production, Anabolic and Diabolic. Of those JM is the one credited with your White Trash Whore series. There is no denying that the title is pretty graphic but the type of porn in the movies themselves was still a kind of scenario driven story that just happens to include either a b/b/g with anal and a dp or a gangbang with a dp. There was no slapping, chocking, spitting DAP, DVP in those movies. At the same time as these guys were making their type of porn. You had dozen of other studios making what more often than not would be called vanilla porn. Probably two of the biggest studios in those days were Vivid and Wicked and neither of them ever went the extreme porn route and Wicked as manage to remain relevant to today.
I wouldn't say porn is now dull, more like repetitive. Same studios releasing scenes in the same shooting style, positions and most importantly, the sets. I mean that house with the curved staircase and piano in the corner has seen more porn than all us porn fans have combined.
Yeah, there's definitely more extreme porn these days, though I think porn was harder overall in the early 2000's gonzo era. The thing about extreme porn nowadays that bugs me (like LP) is that it tends to have no passion and be totally mechanical. Just because you're filming a chick getting two dicks shoved up her ass doesn't mean you can't have her showing some excitement or pleasure...
I may very well be the only one to want this, but I'd love to see more 'true' interviews before scenes; wholly candid, about how and why girls rolled into the adult industry and why they do what they do. It's not asking them their entire life story, but just the relevant bits of how they got to where they are, and why they do what they do. I'd love to see more street-level prostitutes come up into porn, girls with butterfaces, something raw, something real. That ties into my aversion to make-up; there's a point where you pass tasteful and end up in uncanny valley, and I've found most big budget enterprises to overdo it. Heck, those 'before and after' pics of girls at the makeup artist prior to a scene? Most often the before version is ten times more attractive to me.
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Posted - Feb 7 2018 : 10:53AM
Porn's become way too unrealistic. I don't mind perfect girls and guys but it's become a like a joke. I was watching Sex Factor and Keiran Lee is giving guys advice on how to do the standard boring scene (BJ a few positions then Facial) For men, every guy is rock hard (Chemically induced) at the beginning of the scene and massively hung, lasts forever without a break and has to jerk himself for minutes before a facial, all the while being the dominant one in the scene. I mean who fuck gives their wife a facial every night if ever? For girls theres too much fake boobs ass and lips, just look at how Lana Rhoades ruined herself. Then most of the scene is them, getting lead by the male talent while fake moaning, and every second girl can now squirt (pee) buckets. In the 90's and early 2000's a squirter in porn was so rare. Then in all the scene they're mouthing dirty talk, no romantic variations
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Posted - Feb 8 2018 : 5:52AM
That's cliche IMO. There are many scenes whitout 'rock hard' guys and the massively hung male star is a sterotype. Sure, guys like Mandingo or Dredd are really big but most guys working for the big studios are pretty average IMO.
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Posted - Feb 8 2018 : 7:27AM
^remember too, many of the male performers are shorter height than average.... 5 foot 6 5 foot 7, etc..... that makes their dicks look bigger especially with good camera work. A guy who is 6 inches can look 8 on cam. Mandingo, for example, is a short guy and is legit around 8.5" but looks like 10 in relation to his body, and also because he is thick. Yeah, the robo dick thig... its not so bad in the US. But i watch a lot of legal porno and those guys dicks .... some of them must have put in implants or silicone because they don't fucking move even after orgasms. I know caverject does that to a degree, but even for that they are too hard.
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Feb 15 2018 : 4:47AM
You must mean JM Productions, Anabolic and Diabolic were not scenario driven, hell they rarely had any tease before a dick was shoved in the woman's mouth. To me that only 'extreme' thing about most of Anabolic and Diabolic videos was how extremly boring most of it was.
Assylum is an extreme site, so the folks on here who don't like extreme stuff won't like it. (And I can respect that--each to their own!) But we also pride ourselves on creating fresh and new experiences with every scene. Our recent work is also completely unscripted. What we do is talk with the performers in advance about their interests and limits, then agree on a unique setting and concept for the scene as well as ways that people can stop the scene if anything isn't working for them. Then we put the performers into the scene and let them act and react authentically and spontaneously. The basic idea is to create fresh, new worlds--sometimes very bizarre or surreal ones, sometimes more ordinary ones--and let people play in them, within whatever boundaries they agree on. Shooting this way is not easy. It takes special gear and really alert, talented crew. It also takes the right performers--people who are doing it for more than a paycheck and want to be able to be authentic, and who can be authentic at the same time as remembering to open up to the camera so that viewers can share their experience. It also take a lot of hard work to come up with a new idea for every single scene. But we'll never just shows dicks going in and out of holes on the same old couch for an easy buck. We're here to make it new--to deliver exciting entertainment and insights where we can. Obviously, we can't be all things to all people. We've got our niche, and that niche is extreme anal BDSM. But we certainly share the interest in breaking free of the old formulas. Slavemouth, our new oral site, is not as elaborate as Assylum but also keeps it new. Edited by - Dr Mercies on 3/3/2018 8:16:18 PM Edited by - Dr Mercies on 3/3/2018 11:35:15 PM
part of the problem is webcams. Too many guys willing to shell out insane amounts of money to cam stars, and as a result, you have tons of awesome girls doing camming but not getting into porn.
I would love to see more new and different stuff centered around oral sex. Would love to see more emphasis on cute, submissive teens being "fed" cock and balls like it's all they want. Maybe scenes with some hot young stud and multiple teen girls on their backs sucking his balls and ass. Make it hot! Make it intimate and natural too! Have the hot guy actually seduce the girls in the scenes before having them do all kinds of dirty things with their mouths. Have them give him a tongue-bath in the locker room shower before lining them up on the benches on their backs for face fucking and tea bagging. Just imagine three pairs of beautiful teen eyes staring longingly up at some lucky stud's asshole as their lips gently slurp and tug his sweaty balls. Too hot! Needs to happen.
I just got done posting a semi-rant in another section that there has never been a female version of Max Hardcore. There have been dominant women, but usually they are mistress types who penetrate dudes with her fingers or fist, or they suck on her toes. But there's never been a company that focuses on woman dominating guys with her pussy or ass. It's either him that's dominating or it's mutual. Seems like such an obvious idea, yet they don't even try it.
Yeah it's funny though how they got the whole industry censored in like 5 years or so. Weird how some people still call the heavily scripted 2257titleXYZ-compliant acts "extreme" while there is literally none of it. Even random talking is not permitted and every skin tone is washed out carefully. Boy, any 2000s porn flick had more freedom in it.... To OP I recommend clips4sale and manyvids there are at least some movies that still have natural color.
This is your chance to click up for something original and different. I came up with an idea. The performer has agreed to do it. All it needs is a lot of up votes. If you are not a reddit member then it only takes a couple minutes to sign in and vote up. If you are already a reddit member, then just vote up. Easy as that if you want something original. I pasted my idea below. Try and get others to view it and vote it up. There is no guarantee it will be made but the more up votes it receives will definitely improve the chances that it may someday get approved for production. Thank you very much. https://www.reddit.com/r/Brazzers/comments/87mlww/another_suggestion_for_filming_daya_knight_in_a/
Now and then, I'd like to see a girl start out the scene already naked. The best Big Wet Asses tease ever was Sasha Knox's in #8, and she only wore shoes. In girl/girl, I'd like to see more rematches and recurring couples. It's always nice to see two girls together for the first time, but when they know each other's bodies they can go even deeper. What's more, intimacy is basically indispensable to a really good g/g scene. Along those lines, I think that a lesbian wedding theme would be fantastic. I'd like to see FLR scenes - not so much female domination as female supremacy, where her pleasure comes first and last and where she dictates the action.
I personally would like to see more trains instead of gangbangs. A train is when a girl takes on multiple guys one-on-one, back-to-back. Continuously; not just several scenes of the same girl. There's stuff out there that kind of does this (like gloryhole sites), but only one that did it straight up (POVWars). This material pops up occasionally in JAV, but not much in American porn. Unless I'm not looking hard enough.
A round ass and big natural tits on a small frame are pretty hard to beat 103 Posts 9/17
Posted - Apr 15 2018 : 12:09PM
Have you dipped your toe in the far eastern waters of JAV ? Plenty of imaginative setups and a ton of different scenarios, that are often well acted, abound throughout Japanese porn. One memorable example featured a slim, young, slightly nerdy girl in glasses but with a gorgeous round ass and perfect breasts being followed by a film crew as she walks through a fairly busy town for a good 15 minutes or so, naked from the waist down. Its clearly genuine, not staged, as evidenced by the reactions of passers by and locals going about their normal day witnessing a half naked girl walking along the street in broad daylight. Eventually they reach a park where a guy fucks her in the open air. Very hot scene and very well executed. The 'reality porn' aspect and the all natural beauty of the girl involved made it that much better.
Bring back Dancing Bear, or something similar. Try a reverse Dancing Bear, maybe in a strip club, where a girl or girls (porn star or amateurs) pick dicks to suck and fuck from a roomful of guys. One of the attractions of the above scenarios is the voyeuristic aspect: People are actually fucking in front of an audience. "Public porn" is anything but -- there's never anyone around, and, if someone shows appears, the pants go up. An interracial GirlslDoPorn or Amateure Allure (AA before they started bringing the pros, back when they had real amateurs). Double-Blacked, Triple-Blacked, Gang-Blacked. Have an intro or amateur series where the girl has a less-compliant, more I'm-going-to-show-you-what-I-got attitude. How about a series that starts off, "Hi, I'm Annie Amateuer (or Patty Pornstar), and this is my fantasy." And then we get to see her have her fantasy fulfilled. Bring random guys in and do the same with them, their fantasies being fulfilled by a porn star. What can we do with blindfolds and handcuffs? More cock-worshipping (Fellucia Blow, for example), and less throat-gagging blowjobs. And put a moratorium on all the intra-family and cuckold stuff that seems to predominate these days.
Go To Top of page [Link] vilin Member 12 Posts 6/17 Posted - Mar 28 2018 : 3:18AM Private Message Poster Edit Message Reply w/Quote I just got done posting a semi-rant in another section that there has never been a female version of Max Hardcore. There have been dominant women, but usually they are mistress types who penetrate dudes with her fingers or fist, or they suck on her toes. But there's never been a company that focuses on woman dominating guys with her pussy or ass. It's either him that's dominating or it's mutual. Seems like such an obvious idea, yet they don't even try That would piss me off especially if you have to lie and pretend like the man is just so well endowed or hot.Small dicks feel great in the ass too but some guys are squeamish and brainwashed into concentrating on the vag.. Even in porn the guys get away with all types of negligence.I mean in the case of a big girth or length how you going to get in without her being wet ? That's common sense but you still have men out her sticking a semi flaccid cock into a dry slot. The whole industry is being exposed for its exploitation and unimaginative mess whereas sites like Skype..Chaturbate and Camstwr are taking in the coins
I'm ok even the usual pathetic crap they shoot today, just remove shitty whitening and insta filter all the time. I don't remember last time I saw a natural looking skin textutre in porn.
Before reality TV, all but fringe porn used to be about what we would do with a girl if we had the chance. Now it's all about what can be done to a girl. I believe that sums up the decline in porn.
A chain of four or five girls licking assholes. Also, a chain of boy-girl-boy-girl-boy-girl asslickers. Get a whole big orgy scene of asslicking going.
I have this idea for a movie, and id love to hear your guys thoughts on this. Okay, so this movie stars 1 female porn star and (atleast 1 guy). There are, say, 5-6 scenes in this movie. And this movie requires a porn star who has an innocent look but can also get really nasty ( say someone like Riley Reid). Now lets get into the plot, Basically riley starts out as an innocent 18 year old girl who meets this nice guy and they go out and have sex after the first date, but after that as riley tries to leave the mans apartment she finds out that shes locked in and cant leave. You guessed it, this man has made her his slave. Scene after scene you see rileys innocence die little by little until she just accepts her fate as this mans sex slave, and then eventually this man has just fucked her so many times over YEARS that being a sex doll is all she is and knows and she has no thoughts other than: i am programmed to pleasure this man. Her brain is useless otherwise. You can mix those scenes up a bit have a few gangbang scenes, some gagging, some extreme forced where Riley looks just lifeless. That seems like an epic porn story and id love for someone to do it. Other stars who could (have) do/done this would be The great Amber Rayne (rip), Ashley Blue, and Sophie Dee.
"Pornography: That which excites, whether from approval or disapproval." ~ Leonard Rossite 2342 Posts 12/17
Posted - May 9 2018 : 10:37PM
Because I watch Woodrocket's ask a pornstar series, as crazy as this will sound - I would like to see a Adult Performer Comedy with spontaneous and semi planned scenes coming out it from every town or city they go to. Seriously, some of these people all but kill me with laughter just telling their stories from losing their virginity to how they got into porn or telling their families. Just go on tour, have it be almost like Sex Across America series only with more laughter involved. Sinful Scorpio, Passionate Aries
Everyone has a story. Im choosing to write mine now 56 Posts 3/18
Posted - May 10 2018 : 4:03AM
I couldn't agree more.. the same couch. The same bed. The same routine. The same everything when it to each category. Companies are seeing it as well. Now with the high demand of VOD, in my opinion, is making the creative heads lazy. It seems the consumer is only interested in the 1 or 2 girls and dont bother watch full fuck flick. With a lot of directors ducking the talent, the same shot for each position is apparent. Honestly, I'm tired of looking at his butthole Gehenna he pile drives her. I want see her expressions and the D in n out of the V. Now with Onlyfans and others, it's only a matter of time before all the their performers take all their content and make their own porn. Then it's really going to get bad!! Oh..and access to performers in free social media outlets are on the way out the door. Premium packs will become the norm with starting at 9.99 you can watch masterbation but for 50.00 you will can watch Live sex happening but only limited people allowed in chat room so they can attract even more.