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Videofan
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4/16
Posted - Oct 24 2023 : 6:57AM
Only Veronica Avluv in 2018.

If you count the whole North America Alyssa Reece from Canada (born in europe) also did a scene in 2019, but that was filmed in Paris, and all scenes filmed by the Paris team where deleted by PB after those guys where involved in an investigation for several violations, although none of the violations where directly related to the scenes they filmed for PB, or the models involved in those scenes.

Edited by - videofan on 10/24/2023 7:02:24 AM

penceyprep
Member

64 Posts
11/19
Posted - Oct 24 2023 : 1:39PM
Thanks. Curious as to what those violations were....
Videofan
Senior Member

1366 Posts
4/16
Posted - Oct 24 2023 : 3:36PM
JonECage
Deactivated User

699 Posts
6/19
Posted - Oct 24 2023 : 4:41PM
 
Videofan
Senior Member

1366 Posts
4/16
Posted - Oct 24 2023 : 5:17PM
^That's right
kefka
Member

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10/23
Posted - Oct 28 2023 : 7:15AM
Soon this thread will grow.

Edited by - kefka on 10/28/2023 6:12:35 PM

Videofan
Senior Member

1366 Posts
4/16
Posted - Oct 28 2023 : 3:13PM
kefka
Member

13 Posts
10/23
Posted - Oct 28 2023 : 6:11PM
Finally some good models in PB .

Edited by - kefka on 10/28/2023 6:13:19 PM

kristi95
Member

32 Posts
6/11
Posted - Oct 29 2023 : 3:01PM
Spermania
Member

88 Posts
12/22
Posted - Oct 31 2023 : 8:03AM
Tabitha Poison is gorgeous, but I don't like her tattoos. Just too much.
Kasiall
Member

469 Posts
12/18
Posted - Nov 1 2023 : 12:42PM
Videofan
Senior Member

1366 Posts
4/16
Posted - Nov 2 2023 : 6:44AM
Spermania
Member

88 Posts
12/22
Posted - Nov 2 2023 : 4:07PM
Videofan
Senior Member

1366 Posts
4/16
Posted - Nov 2 2023 : 5:16PM
^The regular price for Diamond is $ 99.85 monthly. The entry level price will be deducted from this sum if you upgrade to Diamond.

In my experience if you join for the regular diamond price and don't renew, after some time you will get an offer to rejoin for a discount price (of course you have to keep the email you used to join the first time), for example two months for the price of one, or a yearly subcription for less than half the regular monthly price.

 
willlienellson
Deactivated User

9 Posts
11/23
Posted - Nov 3 2023 : 2:23AM
Not sure if the producers of PB ever visits this board, but the Tabitha Poison scene is going to get me to resubscribe.

I always felt like there should be more cross over between the Legalporno girls and and Premiumbukkake. The first time I subscribed was because I wanted to see the Ria Sunn scene.

If you can deliver names like Veronica Leal, Alexxa Vice, Ana De Ville, Eden Ivy, Brittany Bardot, that would KEEP ME SUBSCRIBED instead of only subscribing once a year or so.

I'm not saying all the performers should be well known gonzo actresses, but maybe once a month or two. They may not even be my favorite scenes in the end. (In the end, I never watch the Ria Sunn scene but I watch Roma Amore and Alexandra Targaryan scenes over and over) But just having an actress show up that we've seen in other high production value scenes gets me excited and makes me feel like more exciting things are in the pipeline. And it would keep me subscribed.

Just my two cents. Can't wait to subscribe now and watch that Tabitha Poison scene. HYPE!

Videofan
Senior Member

1366 Posts
4/16
Posted - Nov 7 2023 : 5:51AM
^Yeah, it's a matter of preferences of course. I have the opposite viewpoint, I would love to see PB go back to how they started, with mostly unknown models, and make that their usp. I have zero intrest in seeing established names like those you mention, models that just have another day at work. And without any statistics my guess are that 50% or more of the the PB models these latest years are on Legalporno as well, so I would say that the the crossover you wish for already excists to a very high degree. To be clear I'm not saying that a well known model couldn't make a scene I would like, but it's not the type of models I wish for.

Of course it's easier and safer for PB to book professional hardcore models than to find more unknown names, and they manage to book some new models just starting their career, so for me at least that's better than established names already seen in multple scenes everywhere.

Videofan
Senior Member

1366 Posts
4/16
Posted - Nov 7 2023 : 5:56AM
damaster
Member

74 Posts
9/20
Posted - Nov 8 2023 : 8:03AM
Which models are Cum-Haters?
Videofan
Senior Member

1366 Posts
4/16
Posted - Nov 12 2023 : 11:02AM
magnetpie
Member

42 Posts
7/22
Posted - Nov 12 2023 : 3:19PM
PB has gotten away from facials to more Gokkun recently. I prefer a balance.
willlienellson
Deactivated User

9 Posts
11/23
Posted - Nov 14 2023 : 7:34PM
I guess I just want a good mix. I don't want all known performers or all unknowns. Even though I've come to really love a lot of the unknowns. A name I know every so often gets the hype up like I said. I would love to see Natasha Teen if they could get her. But I also know they're very good at introducing new girls, so it's not a big deal. But I really do enjoy a good racial mix as well. Not all hispanic. Some white, some black, etc. And a rare American every so often is a nice touch.

But I have to disagree about the facials. They need to swallow it all! But it would be cool to give the girls a facial and then a spoon to clean it up at the end.

kefka
Member

13 Posts
10/23
Posted - Nov 14 2023 : 7:45PM
PB is struggling both financially and in finding models (amateurs and pros) that is why girls used to do 3 scenes, then 2, now it's one scene split into 2. unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a light at the end of the tunnel.

they do have an unreleased scene from the good old days, PB owners and directors confirmed their possession of it on various occasions, if they release Sara maybe there might be a chance, but i guess Krystofer Lorens (the owner) is keeping it for his private collection.

Edited by - kefka on 11/14/2023 7:46:28 PM

Intrepid
Member

33 Posts
5/10
Posted - Nov 16 2023 : 9:30AM
I concur with your analysis Kefka.
I'm just grateful I had the opportunity to hook up with the site when it first came out. The special exclusive content & high end production value was FUCKING AWESOME!
Actually, I first heard about it on this forum. (Thanks ADT)

While in charge, Torbe & company were one of the the most innovative pornographic artists in the evolution of the Bukkake/Gokkun genre in quite a while.
They elevated the fetish to a perspective rarely available to dedicated aficionado's until a few years ago.
So far, since his departure, I haven't seen any similar artistic, progressive pornographic talent come along to rival or exceed his esoteric, erotic visions.
It was great fun while it lasted though.

In the meantime, the current management is either not capable of or has no interest in maintaining or exceeding the high standards of the original content.
They just phone in a diluted, half baked, cookie cutter version of it at best.
I do understand there point of view though. As long as there are enough subscriptions to pay the bills and make a decent income with a minimum amount of effort, why change unless you have to.
Let's hope at some point they get the message.

Nice work while it lasts if you can get it.

bchasefanboy
Member

77 Posts
7/22
Posted - Nov 16 2023 : 12:02PM
do you find yourself watching the whole scene or skipping around a lot?
 
bchasefanboy
Member

77 Posts
7/22
Posted - Nov 16 2023 : 12:14PM
any idea why Torbe left? i remember it being revolutionary when putalocura came out with people like shione cooper. and than he launched premiumbukkake right? what happened to cause him to leave?
Spermania
Member

88 Posts
12/22
Posted - Nov 16 2023 : 2:47PM
How do you know all this? Are you an insider?
willlienellson
Deactivated User

9 Posts
11/23
Posted - Nov 16 2023 : 7:51PM
I guess I'll be the dissenting voice again. I DON'T think the early content was the best. There were a handful of scenes in the beginning that I enjoyed and still value as part of my collection, but the early PB days suffered from a "sameness" of Eastern European looking "LiveJasmin"esk cam girl type performers. There is 69 pages of videos on the site currently in my members section and if you start at the back and work forward the first 9 pages look like they're all from Ukraine or Hungary or something (which is cool, they are hot) but it doesn't really inspire much excitement unless you already follow the girl (like when I subscribed for Ria Sunn back then). But then you start getting a mix of legalporno gonzo girls like Jesse Jay and Silvia Dellai, with unknown very hispanic looking actress like Sherezade Lapiedra and Noe White and Bella Rico, small petite cuties like Roma Amore, Min Galilea and Ohana Petite, black girls like Katrina and Missy to go with them.

However, then it started to suffer from a different sameness where most performers had a hispanic "sameness" where they basically looked like the "best of" putalocura. But now it seems like we're getting a good mix again. I feel like the mix of girls is in a good place, and I resubscribed for that reason.

However, I think they could still offer some more variety of what the girls do in the scenes to keep it fresh

- Have them eat the cum with a spoon.
- Have one girl lick the face of another girl clean.
- Have then dress while they're still cum covered and messy and leave in that condition instead of post-shower.
- Add some 1on1 pov blowjob scenes with the prettiest girls. Have them do dirty talk in their native languages and add subtitles.
- Have a girl swallow more frequently. Like 25 swallows for 50 loads instead of 3 or 4. A lot of girls struggle with the swallow, so tell them to swallow after ever cumshot or group of shots.
- Have all the guys cum into one girls mouth and then have her drool all the cum into a 2nd girls mouth and she has to swallow it all each time.
- And of course a return of the classic 75-100+ cumshot scenes.

I didn't expect to like the behind the scenes content as much as I do. I really enjoy them getting "interrupted" with a load to swallow while they're getting dressed or their makeup done, and on the way out the door, or the moment they arrive. It has a real "freeuse" vibe to it that is very hot!

I understand the financial constraints keeping every scene from being a 100 load scene. But instead of making every scene a 50 load scene, I would suggest making some scenes of only 20 loads where the girls DO SOMETHING with the cum or savor it and play with it (think of like JAV style cum movies where they seem to savor the collection of each load, etc) and then still have a massive 100 load scene once a month or something.

I don't know the exact mix that would be best for their financials and best for the viewers, but if they just let the site run into the ground and fail by doing the same thing until the end (and doing a little less of it all the time because of financial constraints) instead of trying new things, that seems like a real shame, because there is real potential here.

ALSO....how about some thick girls (not bbw)? Some girls with the Alexxa Vice, Natasha Nice, Angel Wikky, Taylee Wood, etc type of body.

EDIT: There must be a bunch of footage of the girls puking tons of cum. They should sell those as stand alone videos on clips4sale or something for more revenue. I would definitely buy some.

Edited by - willlienellson on 11/16/2023 7:57:22 PM

Edited by - willlienellson on 11/16/2023 7:59:27 PM

willlienellson
Deactivated User

9 Posts
11/23
Posted - Nov 16 2023 : 7:55PM
I watch most of the scenes without skipping around. But I tend to skip the "blowbang" warm up parts of the scenes that have those because most of them are neither sensual nor rough. They're just of "going through the motions" in a very boring way. There are exceptions though. Marta Villalobos knows how to handle a cock. It was a real pleasure to watch her warming them up.
Intrepid
Member

33 Posts
5/10
Posted - Nov 16 2023 : 11:59PM
From what I've read, Torbe was arrested back in 2016 and accused of abusing a minor etc.
The case is still ongoing.
Also, something similar (but worse) happed to Pascal & company, the creators and producers of the now defunct French-Bukkake site.
They had a good thing going until they decided to fly a little too close to the sun.
kefka
Member

13 Posts
10/23
Posted - Nov 17 2023 : 12:11AM
Im not an insider, I do have first hand sources which i will not share here. but im just a "follower" of PB and the news since 2016. most of what I stated here is public knowledge anyways.

and to the dissenting voice, you are literally the only person who thinks this.

only 2 models of the new era surpassed the Ukrainians by consensus

pris angel
ohana petit

and yes you must really enjoy the bukkake split scenes where the girl does one sitting of 70 loads (with breaks) and they release a part 1 with 20 and part 2 with 50. you must also be enjoying the not naked pornstars (so that they can sell the clothes later) you also must have enjoyed camera 1 for a while where it zoomed in on the pornstars teeth (this went on for 2 years) and dont forget the BUKKAKE in premiumBUKKAKE where the guys used to cum in the ukranians face with their EYES OPEN, now they dont even cum on the face and when they do its the weak sauce forehead. (financial reasons, open eye cumshots you must pay extra $, $ pb doesnt have)

the new director giorgio switched the genre from a "humiliation fantasy" into a "worship fantasy" and now they are suffering for it.

for you it is really worth $100 per month it seems, keep telling yourself that as the numbers keep dwindling

and nothing against Colombians, but keep enjoying the cheap colombian pornstars they keep using where they all look like they came from the same village.

cant wait when they start putting blonde and ginger wigs on colombians (for variety), you are really gonna enjoy that "era" it would seem.

who else is gonna accept $500 a scene to swallow 50 mopes?

(just for context the scenes used to cost minimum $3000 + accomodations) now its 1/6th of what it was, so live with 1/6th the quality

Edited by - kefka on 11/17/2023 12:29:35 AM

Videofan
Senior Member

1366 Posts
4/16
Posted - Nov 17 2023 : 8:25AM
magnetpie
Member

42 Posts
7/22
Posted - Nov 17 2023 : 10:49AM
I appreciate all the feedback regarding PB. I was considering another subscription, but given from what I am reading it gives me pause. PB is just not like it was a few years ago.
magnetpie
Member

42 Posts
7/22
Posted - Nov 17 2023 : 11:59AM
Are the last few split scenes primarily gokkun?
kefka
Member

13 Posts
10/23
Posted - Nov 17 2023 : 2:01PM
look at that, what a surprise a 'blonde' Venezuelan , 7 load gangbang.

very 'premium' content i must say, totally worth $100 /month

Edited by - kefka on 11/17/2023 2:04:26 PM

 
Videofan
Senior Member

1366 Posts
4/16
Posted - Nov 18 2023 : 6:31AM
willlienellson
Deactivated User

9 Posts
11/23
Posted - Nov 18 2023 : 5:06PM
I don't care. That's what dissenting means. So I speak my mind. If you say I'm "LiTeRaLlY tHe OnLy OnE" then I'll take your word for it. After all, I'm sure you have a totally accurate tally of what every single person thinks. You're the expert. But since I do know what the word dissenting actually means, I'll happily continue to dissent.

We're all just giving out opinions here about what we like. You're the only person trying to act like his opinion is the "correct" one and another opinion is "wrong". smh

Edited by - willlienellson on 11/18/2023 5:10:34 PM

kefka
Member

13 Posts
10/23
Posted - Nov 18 2023 : 11:18PM
ya theres always these "new accounts" that popoff whenever serious criticisms of PB show up any forum not under the thumb of the management of PB, praising the "amazing new content" 😂, they usually disappear after a while tho so, Ive been through these games for 6 years now.

the "quality" of the new content speaks for itself.

Edited by - kefka on 11/18/2023 11:22:30 PM

magnetpie
Member

42 Posts
7/22
Posted - Nov 20 2023 : 3:45PM
Quality in terms of? The beginning years as compared to present day?
Spermania
Member

88 Posts
12/22
Posted - Nov 21 2023 : 7:56AM
What is quality? That depends on the eye who see right? It's quite subjective. Personally I like when PB changes it up a little with some gangbang and some fucking. I also liked the milking table, but that's just me it seems...
kefka
Member

13 Posts
10/23
Posted - Nov 21 2023 : 6:30PM
I mean changing it up and some variety is acceptable, as long as you don't mess about with your main bread and butter bukkake formula.

The formula before:

Hot European Model [usually amateur] + excellent cameraman work + 10 load swallows [sometimes more]+ continues scene [no edits, no cutting and gluing small mini bukkake sessions] + No breaks for the pornstar in-between loads + open eye facial bukkake with loads INTO the EYE + Degradation Porn + 80 mopes [some were really ugly] + mopes were told to abstain for 3 days minimum for maximum loads.

Formula Now:

Cheap Latina Pornstars [some look like they survived the rapture] + 20load swallow [loads are so small for reasons stated later]+Teeth Zoom CameraWOman [they made camila palmer [former bukkake receiver] into the main camera 2 operator + edited scenes + glued minibukkakes + no open eye facials + worship the "goddess" porn 🤮+ 30 "professional" mopes + mopes now do multiple scenes per day and cum 3 times per bukkake to "reach the numbers", that's why loads look so weak and small

for some people its seems they like "new coke" but for me, "classic coke" will always be superior for the reason i stated above. there are more reasons but im not here to write an essay.

Edited by - kefka on 11/21/2023 6:42:56 PM

josh31
Member

957 Posts
12/17
Posted - Nov 22 2023 : 7:32AM
Man. pb subscribers are tuff crowd to please
Videofan
Senior Member

1366 Posts
4/16
Posted - Nov 23 2023 : 6:11AM
Videofan
Senior Member

1366 Posts
4/16
Posted - Nov 23 2023 : 6:16AM
josh31
Member

957 Posts
12/17
Posted - Nov 23 2023 : 7:02AM
Wauw. Thats. something Else :-)
Videofan
Senior Member

1366 Posts
4/16
Posted - Nov 23 2023 : 7:03AM
I don't know why he left, or why he simply was not hired any more. Could have to do with him being involved in ongoing investigations from the Spanish police, and that PB wanted to cut the connections until he was cleared. But I'm only guessing here...

It's not quite right to say that Torbe was the one that launched PB. PB was launched and owned by a rich Ukrainian, Boris/Borys Malynovskyi, and he hired Torbe as director. Maybe it could be described as a joint venture. Torbe filmed the scenes following strict detailed instrucions from Boris. Torbe had the experience Boris needed, the studio, a bunch of reliable bukkakeros, and a great first cameraman. The original PB was basically like Putalocura on steroids, more structured with a big budget and detailed timelines for the scenes.

It's possible Boris is still the main owner of PB behind the front of Krystofer Lorens that @Kefka mention above, but I don't know.

That's a funny question, as PB primarily is about gokkun, so yes.

And about "split scenes", during the covid years many of the scenes where made up of smaller parts of maybe 10-25 loads edited together to look like it was shot in one go. They don't do that anymore since about a year ago. What we talk about now is how they film two scenes in one day with the same model instead of one. But these scenes are filmed in one go, not edited together from smaller parts.

Edited by - videofan on 11/23/2023 7:06:44 AM

Videofan
Senior Member

1366 Posts
4/16
Posted - Nov 23 2023 : 7:21AM
Just commenting that Camila Palmer left as camera operator for more than a year ago. And the "edited scenes + glued minibukkakes" was also more than a year ago, during the covid years, they don't do that anymore.

Apart from that I agree with you, PB has gone from raw and real with mostly non porn models challenged to do something extreme, to a more polished image with mostly porn girls, basically doing their job, which makes a big difference. Of course it's still pretty extreme, but it's not the same...

Videofan
Senior Member

1366 Posts
4/16
Posted - Nov 23 2023 : 7:56AM
I would definitely not advise you to make any decision based on mine or any others preferences here.

Just watch the free trailers, if you like what you see, there's a good chanse it would be worth it to get a sub for at least a month to download the scenes you like. Especially if you have been away for some time, and there's a lot of scenes you have not seen, and especially now that they offer a diamond discount...

PB may not be the same site as it was when launched, but since then there is still lots and lots of very good content, and there is really no competition in the world for this genre, no one is even close...

Edited by - videofan on 11/23/2023 1:28:56 PM

willlienellson
Deactivated User

9 Posts
11/23
Posted - Nov 23 2023 : 7:49PM
You're so fucking antagonistic, I don't know what your problem is or why nobody is allowed to have an opinion except for you. You realize they auto-reset everyone's passwords a while ago, right? Lots of people probably had to start new accounts if they didn't post frequently. And I didn't show up due to your criticism. I showed up because I was excited about the Tabitha Poison scene.

You're attitude is pretty ridiculous. You seem to have this idea that you speak for the community, but maybe it's just because with people like you around most people don't even bother trying to put in their own 2 cents.

I know I won't be anymore. I'll just go back to ignoring this forum, and you can go back to pretending that means everyone agrees with you. Enjoy your echo chamber.

kefka
Member

13 Posts
10/23
Posted - Nov 24 2023 : 2:58AM
WOW what a scene!!!! the old formula is back by popular demand. (@willienelson I assume you are canceling your sub after this scene right? 😂)

Seems if you complain long enough, people listen.

great work by the PB team, lets hope you keep this momentum and not regress in the next update.

no more 1 step forward 2 steps back.

onward back to glory!

massive facials
Member

882 Posts
4/17
Posted - Nov 24 2023 : 9:27AM
This is massive!!! Showing they are capable of doing exactly what everyone has been wanting for a while with 213 loads! What an insane number!!! Definitely need to take the buzz and momentum, which was definitely the goal of this scene being posted around Black Friday, going with the next scenes though! Absolutely can't go from seeing a scene with 213 loads to then having updates with 40-50 loads, that'd be a huge waste of the momentum and excitement they'd just built up!

Hopefully we're back on track towards more 'classic' PB scenes and this train keeps on rolling! Hopefully we see more gorgeous women like Fanta getting a similar sort of treatment! (Unfair to expect 213 from anyone else anytime soon though lol)

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