The genius minds of Bree Mills and Stills by Alan who revolutionized the G/G genre are set to conquer the world of B/G next with their new site Pretty Dirty Their first feature Sugar Babies came out a few days ago starring Penny Pax, Chanel Preston, Jade Nile, and Rebel Lynn. The site has launched with 10 scenes to give you taste of what they have to offer. And Sugar Babies is sure to be the first of many features. If this really is the B/G equivalent of Girlsway, I can't see how it cannot find an audience. It will be interesting to see how this all works out. I'm a G/G fan, but there are some B/G stars I've been wanting to see on Girlsway and Pretty Dirty will be the perfect backdoor. Don't be a stranger and watch this space.
Eh, James Deen...that makes it very unlikely I'll join.
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Posted - Apr 26 2016 : 11:55PM
^ same thought ,i had also hoped for more newer ladies ,almost all scenes have established stars and pairing you already seen from other companies.but give it some time,that they start with well known performers is normal. Penny Pax on the site as a fan of her was good but then James Deen in the scene makes me not want to watch it sooner or later. Sinning with my Sister Chapter One with Rachel James looks like a good one. positiv is also a good filled coming soon section. Edited by - jacksparrow on 4/26/2016 11:59:06 PM
I'm just glad that both Bree and Alan have been adamant that this will not effect girlsway to the point of having another director handle the bulk of the scenes on this site. I'd like to watch that Jade Nile/Rebel Lynn scene but I have no interest in boy-girl and especially can't support a brand that has James Deen involved.
I think Girlsway is one of the best designed adult websites out there, so using the same format for Pretty Dirty is a no-brainer. If they do what they did with Girlsway with Pretty Dirty, I don't see how it can't work. Girlsway has had so much success in such a short amount of time, and they've created the perfect template to follow. I can understand why in the early days that they will use the women that they have already worked with on Girlsway. But they also got some of the big name male performers too, who I'm sure will appreciate being allowed to bring more to the table than just their dicks. Some of the major strengths of the Girlsway brand include: Strong communication and incorporation of feedback of it's members, including requests Interaction between performers and fans Creative and original story lines Highly respected among performers Brilliant Website design I thing Pretty Dirty will have a stronger start because they have the benefit of what they learned works and doesn't with Girlsway. I'm not even a B/G fan, but I'm really interested to see how this will all will work out. How will they handle the inevitable issues of IR, Anal, DP, etc? Will they have contract stars? Will the story line route work, or do most B/G fans just want straight sex? Will this be one of those sites that B/G fans will lose interest in when they hear one of the women they like will be on it? So many questions. Edited by - Aya on 4/27/2016 12:32:38 AM
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Posted - Apr 27 2016 : 12:37AM
Hope Bree reads here aswell. Hope also they will do scenes with creampies in the future.
^^ Both Bree and Alan said on a recent post in the forum asking about contract stars after Brandi Love signed with Sweetheart they don't believe in contracts.
The only B/G scenes i watch are those with 2 girls or more in them as i just love girl on girl action, even in B/G/G especially double bj and cum swapping (Every time i try to watch a one on one B/G scene, i always start thinking this would be much better with another woman ha) The threesomes in sugarbabes were good, jade nile and reble lynn was especially great and they had a nice little lesbian scene before it. I hope like at girlsway, they do some milf and teen scenes, RK.com, brazzers, bangbros, momsteachsex etc have all shot some great milf and teen B/G/G threesome scenes, and i think prettydirty.com could do as well of a job, even better than them perhaps as proven by their mommy's girl scenes. Regardless of whether i get loads of threesomes or group scenes, i wish Bree,Alan and the rest of the team great sucess with this site, i really appreciate the great work they have done in the lesbian genre the last few years, so many great scenes and pervy stories, probably my favourite workers in the industry at the moment. Edited by - shenmue on 4/27/2016 8:48:38 AM Edited by - shenmue on 4/27/2016 8:49:52 AM
Hi everyone! Thanks Aya for creating this official thread for PrettyDirty. The website has been up for a couple weeks now and I am very encouraged by the reaction so far. Please feel free to use this thread to ask me anything about our current scenes, our upcoming content, or anything else about the brand. Alan and I remain the creative force behind the project but we've also enlisted the director Craven Moorehead, who has been part of our core crew since the beginning and understands my vision perfectly. Looking forward to chatting! Bree
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Posted - May 9 2016 : 11:42AM
Hi Bree ,are you open to shoot Creampie Scenes for Pretty Dirty in the future and also open for casting suggestions ?
Hi Jack, We certainly will be including some creampie scenes in our library, depending on the storyline. The most recent feature that Alan and I directed, Good Little Girl, includes one ;) And I am always open to casting suggestions. Bree
Congrats on the launch Bree, a few questions. Will the site ever have sub-sections like Mommy's Girl, Webyoung, etc. like on Girlsway? What about Features? So far, the ladies are mostly women who have already been on Girlsway, what's the forecast regarding talent you haven't worked with yet? Will there be any "Firsts" done by ladies on Pretty Dirty?
Hi Aya, I don't plan on creating sub-sites to the PrettyDirty.com brand, per say, but we will certainly tackle a range of niches and build libraries of scenes around the most popular ones. We will be bringing in new talent each month, keeping a look out for new faces the way we always do, but we will also bring back performers who we feel confident can tackle the characters we throw at them ... so, in the end, it will be a mixture of both. PrettyDirty will not be a "first" focused brand, like some others, but I wouldn't be opposed to a first experience if it worked out that way. Edited by - breemills on 5/9/2016 4:55:07 PM
Thank you. Surge Rates is proving to be one of the most popular scenes we've shot yet and we've been extremely impressed by Ashely's work for us ... so bringing her back is a certainty.
Assuming that this mean Deen won't appear on the site again then I am leaning towards joining.
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Posted - May 10 2016 : 1:36AM
^ hope also they will stay away from him aswell. hope Riley Nixon gets a chance to shine and please without a wig like Lansky did. Edited by - jacksparrow on 5/10/2016 1:37:09 AM
In the past I subscribed to the Fantasy Massage site, and the thing that bothered me about that site, bothers me about Pretty Dirty. Almost all the story lines with the male masseurs involved them coercing clients into sex. Threatening to expose them to a husband/bf about some disclosed secret b/c the masseur had recorded it on a hidden camera And from the few scene descriptions I have read on the Pretty Dirty site, it seems a similar vibe is still there. The inciting incident to intercourse isn't lust; it's some form of manipulation or coercion. I'm sure that once the sex starts, it's all oohs and ahs. It probably makes for better "headline" porn, or maybe even a commentary on porn or society. But as a fantasy, I don't find it very arousing On the other hand, I have no problem with coercive and manipulative lesbian sex. As long as it is the girl being the asshole; fine by me! And Bree Mills and Stills by Alan have always shot hot lesbian stuff, so Ill check out a few of the previews and maybe give it a try for a month
Hi there, While there are definitely some reluctance themed scenes with the males coercing the females, I can assure you that there are plenty where the role is reversed. So, I'd love it if you gave us a try and saw if there were enough scenes to your liking :) Bree
Hey, Bree! I recently brought and watched the Sugar Babes on DVD. It was awesome, especially the final scene with Jade Nile and Rebel Lynn. The entire story and sex scenes were all just awesome. One question I have is whether you will allow the memberships through gift cards like on Girlsway? I have some great ideas that I would like to field through you guys.
Hi Bree, congrats on the site. Would you consider having female on male rimming? Some of the scenes on Blacked.com have the girls rimming the guys and it's incredibly hot.
+1 to that as well. In fact, I was coming to here to suggest this whole perspective to bree, as a female director with pretty hot sites. I hope u take the time to read it though. Anyway,here it goes. I love the idea of women having their way with men, and using men to satisfy themselves. And in that spirit, I'd love to see more women using men as their object of desire. I am not talking about making him beg..etc All that is nice, and falls more into femdom category (not enough though) but I'm talking about lustful women tearing up a guy they want. I am just tired of seeing the guy being nothing but a cock in b/g porn, it's even worse in b/g/g, it almost feels if they replaced the male with another one with a similar penis in the middle of the scene, no one would notice, lol. In g/g porn, and you would know best from girlsway, we see girls sloppily kissing, licking,grabbing, biting each other everywhere (not just pussy and boobs). And that's what I wanna see a girl doing to a guy for a change. Not so she can tease him, or make him go crazy, but because she fucking wants to! I know that mainstream culture today is not used to viewing the male body as sexy or an object of lust/desire. Don't get me wrong, some girls do ofc, but most (from what I've seen) don't have this view on men at all, even straight girls. Sure, they like cute guys, nice body is always nice, they enjoy having sex with men, but they are in no way interested in doing the things I described in g/g porn in b/g. Even some pornstars feel this way too. So my suggestion is that maybe there can be a category (even a site would be better) where the guy is basically fully used by a girl for her desires, in the perspective I described, for the performers who are into that. I wanna see a woman coming to a man, aggressively undressing him, sloppily kissing him, sucking on his nipples, grabbing his ass and kissing it, rimming it like the guys said (fingering is also fucking hot) ,licking his abs/face...etc (and his cock ofc,lol) and riding the hell out of him. These acts and this mood doesn't necessarily mean femdom btw, it's just female to male lust and can be used in any context. It can be used in femdom context (boss/employee,teacher/student//etc) and it can be used in a context where the guy is in charge, where he seduces the woman till she's all crazy for him, for him, not just his cock, and not just getting fucked. And it can be used in a any natural scenario that leads to fucking in any context, but this time, the girl actually fucks back, in the perspective I described. I am not saying its anyone fault that this almost never happens in porn, I just thought it might be a perspective that's been over looked due to our mainstream culture. Anyway think about it, maybe my suggestion sucks coz nobody wants to see that or no guys or girls would wanna do that, maybe not, maybe when people see it they'll love it, I don't know. If u wanna know more of where I'm coming from, u can read this article that I found pretty intriguing, no spam BS, promise. http://www.yourtango.com/experts/melissa-fritchle/men-want-feel-sexy-too-expert Hope u read this and let me know what u think. Edited by - joeteen on 5/11/2016 5:20:30 AM
^The question is just how submissive are top male stars going to get? Because we know the big names will only go so far. So will those limits be enough? Anyway, Pretty Dirty actually has one G/G scene on the site right now with Jade Nile & Rebel Lynn. I wonder if that is kind of going against the brand of a B/G site? Girlsway members would never tolerate a B/G scene, but it's okay for Pretty Dirty to have a G/G one? Will this happen again in the future, or is it a one time thing?
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Posted - May 12 2016 : 1:31AM
^ well the g/g scene is part of a feature series if i see that correct,i think thats okay but a standalone g/g scene would be a different case,then i would say it had no place on PrettyDirty and should be then better on their lesbian site.
Well, Like I said, it doesn't have to be a femdom scenario at all, it can be put in any scenario , there's no certain category to any sexual action, like blowjob, it can be submissive or dominant or non..etc it's the scenario and the way it's done/dynamics that defines the category. As for b/g scene being on girls way, no one would tolerate it,no. But again, who are we kidding, nobody minds watching lesbians and any site needs lesbian stuff to spice things up coz,again, let's face it, they're much hotter than b/g or b/g/g for the reason I mentioned and other reasons I'm sure. I don't think there's any site now that doesn't have g/g scenes. I think Aya's quote on her profile can pretty much sum it up here "All the cool girls r lesbians" lol! Edited by - joeteen on 5/12/2016 9:31:59 AM
^I understand what you are asking for. You want to see scenes where the females are more assertive and showing (word and actions) desire for male performers. It isn't a submissive or femdom scenario. That isn't something you see in b/g porn. You see women doing what with their male performers tell them to do and taking what they give. You are looking for something different in b/g and hopefully what is more realistic (i.e., two people both showing passion and desire for each in word and actions that aren't directed by one or the other). Edited by - fanofman on 5/12/2016 11:40:08 AM
Very interesting discussion going on here regarding assertive females ... I actually wrote a storyline that very much speaks to this that we are shooting this month. I tend to prefer 'women in control' vs 'women in distress' scenarios .. Look forward to hearing your thoughts when you see these types of scenes come out. I'm not against female on male rimming, if the performers were into and the storyline supported it.
I'd hesitate to use the word submissive. Scenes where women are more assertive and scenes where the women are the ones seducing/initiating the sex is what I would more of. Women being the ones in control (without pushing it too much towards femdom/BDSM).
I don't think there's a lack of scenes where the girl seduces the guy, I actually think the opposite! And again, this isn't about who's dominating/taking over whom or who's in charge or even who initiated or seduced. Let me give u a scenario that is not femdom, and the girl is submissive and it still applies to what I'm saying, I just reversed a scenario that is old as time in porn,lol: Married woman gets a new job as a boss in some office and gets seduced by the office boy into doing what was mentioned in the earlier posts. She's like "Oh, I love my husband" and maybe tries to resist his moves at first but then succumbs coz he's so hot, she can't control herself and goes all body worshiping him and eats him like a heroine addict who's desperate for her dose,lol. He can even boss her around into doing so and so (just to emphasis his dominance, though it's not my type of thing,lol) Here the seducer is the guy, he's obviously in control, the seduction technique may differ from what we see to make it more fitting for her (and the female viewers) to want to "pounce and prey" on him instead of the opposite. That actually may be the most challenging part of that scenario, the guy seducing the woman to "feed/prey on him" without him appearing to be not masculine or too feminine. It's challenging coz it hasn't been addressed or practiced enough before (Or do u think that it's challenging coz it's against standard/mainstream male and female sexual dynamics/programming? interested in ur feedback here,lol.) Btw, the seduction thing is not a roadblock at all, lol, he can seduce her in any manner, the traditional seduction techniques, and she goes crazy for him and the scenes continues in the dynamics desired where she's lusty for his body. What I'm saying is, once the sex starts, it can go anywhere, the seduction technique being the intro of the sex dynamics is just an extra topping u might say. God damn it, why do I have to make everything feel like a psychology lecture,lol. Anyway, that was just a small scenario showing that the woman being lusty toward the guy's body does NOT have to be a femdom scenario, or the guy being submissive or anything. And I love femdom and the guy being submissive btw,lol, and I don't mind seeing a femdom scenario implementing this. I just wanted to assure that what I'm saying can be put into virtually any dynamics. Ok, I think I got my point, lol, gonna shut up now, thx bree and everyone. If u take scene scenarios here let me know, though I'm still trying to figure out the kind of scenarios/stories that qualifies as "pretty dirty" lol. Guess with more scenes and scenarios out, I'll get the feel of the site. Best of luck! Edited by - joeteen on 5/13/2016 5:04:07 AM
Actually I have a question and I figured this would be as good a place to ask it. I was looking at IAFD and checking out the number of porn scenes a particular woman has done since she started, Next to each film there were abbreviations DRO, DR and O I have no idea what those mean, Can anyone help? Also, I noticed that some of the films she was credited in seem to be old films that are being re-released. From what I've read, she gets no money for this, as she has already been paid for the original scene she shot and the content now belongs to the producer...interesting. I read that some girls get $1500-2000 per scene some more of course, but it seems unless your shooting scenes constantly, you're not going to make enough to survive on scenes alone. No wonder some seek other means to supplement their income. Anyway, thanks in advance.
I'm sold. I guess I will grab those DVDs after all (yes, I'm old school). Will there be any horror/Gothic or other genre type stuff (sci-fi etc) content on Pretty Dirty? I noticed Girlsway dabbles in this, and I think that's awesome.
Even though it's completely off topic, to answer your question, the D/R/O thing is about links to how to purchase the scene/movie described. DVD (D) [the ability to straight purchase the DVD], Rent (R)[The ability to rent the movie from a VOD site], Own (O)[the ability to download the movie directly and own it].
Bree, I joined Pretty Dirty because of how much I love Girls Way but I have to say I do have one complaint. I don't want to make a big deal about it and business is business so I offer this with all respect and understanding. But I don't feel it's right to buy a subscription and then find out I have to pay more for downloads. Obviously $2.95 is not going to break the bank but at the same time it's an extra fee after I've already purchased a year's subscription. It's like I've ordered the gourmet meal but now I have to pay for the plate too. I just think that's a bit unfair. Only my two cents here. Love the site otherwise and am very curious to see what shape your features take. Hope you do bring in more women of color as well thanks
^ Bree, I completely agree with the above statement. Please don't turn Girlsway or Fantasy Massage into steaming sites or you will lose me as a customer. I have been yearly member of both sites for several years back to when GW was Web Young. Edited by - cubbiefanoc on 5/17/2016 4:42:28 PM Edited by - cubbiefanoc on 5/17/2016 4:45:10 PM Edited by - cubbiefanoc on 5/17/2016 4:59:28 PM