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Sbando Boy
Euro Babe Magnet


1839 Posts
6/01
Posted - Nov 30 2001 : 6:21AM
It's official:

"Private has signed an exclusive agreement with movie director Michael Ninn. He has already started an animated movie called ``2funky4u,´´ to be released during the Cannes Film Festival in France, May 2002.
Michael Ninn started to direct his own full-length feature adult titles in 1992 after working alongside other leading industry directors. He is known for directing quality movies in a creative and artistic manner and has gained a reputation for enhancing each production with special effects. Michael Ninn is one of the most acclaimed directors in the adult entertainment industry."
(From Private News)

Steve K.
Deactivated User

840 Posts
11/01
Posted - Nov 30 2001 : 6:43AM
Geez...This is terrible news. Ninn is probably one of the worst directors. His movies (in my views) are amoung the worst. There is always music playing and then the sex is in slo-mo. Ninn is the worst, I hope this deal falls through, but oh well. Kovi, Frank Thring & Pierre Woodman are PRIVATE's best!
Sbando Boy
Euro Babe Magnet

1839 Posts
6/01
Posted - Nov 30 2001 : 6:57AM
Hey, Steve, there's still Max Bellocchio for all your Private needs! And you did notice the bit about "an animated movie...", right?
Steve K.
Deactivated User

840 Posts
11/01
Posted - Nov 30 2001 : 7:06AM
Sbando Boy,

I would like to know who like this animated shit? Its not for me, and anything Ninn does is really not for me.

BIGmike
B-I-G-m-i-k-e

2335 Posts
3/01
Posted - Nov 30 2001 : 10:26AM
While I would tend to agree with you all on the Michael Ninn issue, he is still somewhat revolutionary.

I have two of VCA movies, and while they are not my cup of tea, they do push the boundaries of technology in porno.

Really making a Hollywood style film for porn.

I would say that there is nothing wrong about his style, he is very artistic, is all. He is a couples film director, not a raincoater. So that could be the problem here.

I wish him well!

---BIGmike, over and out---

 
Steve K.
Deactivated User

840 Posts
11/01
Posted - Nov 30 2001 : 12:59PM
I hope PRIVATE doesn't have him do alot of films. That would just be horrible.
Wally
Senior Member

1821 Posts
8/01
Posted - Dec 1 2001 : 2:11AM
So Basicly Michel Ninn is just another Adamo and for me that means Private is going to suck after they finish to release all Pierre woodman movies on DVD ......for those who don't know..Woodman is not working for Private since july of 2001,the only titles you will see with Woodman"s name on it are the ones from the Casting series.....BTW about the new guy doing the Private Gold series Alessandro del mar (aka Max Bellocckio) some people say he is the Ed Wood of Porn (The worst Director in the History of porn movies)
Wally
Senior Member

1821 Posts
8/01
Posted - Dec 1 2001 : 2:33AM
So what we have here is Adamo (with 70 minutes movies,full of slow motion BS),Ninn (couples Film Director),Kovi (a Pierre Woodman wannabe) and Bellocckio (The worst porn Director ever). OH MY GOD!!!!! ...well people that love Vivid,Wicked kind of movies are going to be very Happy in the future.
Sbando Boy
Euro Babe Magnet

1839 Posts
6/01
Posted - Dec 1 2001 : 8:29AM
Max Bellocchio has always done amateurish and very, very cheap-looking videos. From that the analogy with Z-movie godfather Ed Wood Jr.
Tim Burton will never, ever dedicate a moving and compelling film to Max, though.
I respect Ninn. Never understood why great people like The Imp on RAME detest him so much. Shock was really great. The best Shayla ever. But, I won't pretend to be any porn gourmet, here.
I like to see beautiful euro-babes getting fucked in the ass, not cutting-edge editing or visual experiments.
Apart from that, respect to Ninn.

Steve K.
Deactivated User

840 Posts
11/01
Posted - Dec 1 2001 : 6:30PM
Wally,

I hate to burst your bubble, but Kovi is not a Woodman wannabe. If anything you just have something against PRIVATE, which I don't understand. PRIVATE is the best studio releasing dvds. And if you like Vivid (the worst studio the world!) and Wicked...well then I guess you shouldn't be commenting on PRIVATE.

Edited by - Steve K. on Dec 1 2001

Wally
Senior Member

1821 Posts
8/01
Posted - Dec 1 2001 : 10:26PM
Steve K. I own 71 Private movies (vhs/dvd) so I'll think....I know what I am talking about when I say something about Private..Your opinion is welcome because that is what ADT is all about....about Private yes.. I am very unhappy with their latest releases...they are totally moving away from the formula that made them the biggest porn company in the world ....that was Beautiful young women,Anal sex,Dps,VERY litle g\g sex IF any,and more men than women ...that was Private's Trade Mark and I said WAS because I don't see it any more,...Pierre Woodman was the only Director still doing it with the Superfucker series (please,when I say New releases,I'm talking about VHS,..those are the real NEW releases not DVDs,they are not making dual releases here in the USA) ..Private is getting couples friendly now..and that is the reason why I said people that like Vivid,Wicked kind of sex is going to be happy in the future (BTW Steve K you are right,Vivid SUCKS!!) ..I know, People THat don't care much for anal,dp sex are going to totally disagree with me but old Private Fans like myself,know exactly what I'm talking about...shit!! the other day in RAME somebody call Private,The new European Wicked..Private is still far away from being that but they are sure going in that direccion (BTW the only stuff I have from Wicked is the laure Sainclair DVDs,after those movies I really don't care for wicked neither) ....and Yes I am what some people call a RAINCOATER,I like to see beatiful,Gorgeous European women taking it in the ass and being dp'ed hard by two or more guys ..with woodman living private an Era has end,......well for people living ONLY in the DVD world,they will never know about it or will find out much,much later. Thank You. .........Note:if you want to discover what Private was all about years ago,you should check Woodman's early work or The triple X,Private stories series ....but besides woodman's they are not available on DVD yet.
Steve K.
Deactivated User

840 Posts
11/01
Posted - Dec 2 2001 : 11:59AM
Wally,

71 movies isn't really that much, thats how many PRIVATE Gold movies I have, which doesn't count all the rest of PRIVATE I have. Anyways I am glad you agree that Vivid sucks because they really do. I really think PRIVATE is going in the right direction and they aren't getting couple friendly.

qrop
Member

163 Posts
8/01
Posted - Dec 3 2001 : 5:59PM
I'm sorry,but until this day there are only 51 Private Gold movies.
Steve K.
Deactivated User

840 Posts
11/01
Posted - Dec 3 2001 : 6:45PM
Qrop,

Thanks for sucking the fun out of porn. I was just making a statement that I have alot of PRIVATE dvds. Thank you for being exact. Now I must go watch Rita Faltoyano to bring me some joy.

Edited by - Steve K. on Dec 3 2001

qrop
Member

163 Posts
8/01
Posted - Dec 3 2001 : 7:13PM
You are Welcome.
 
scipio
Senior Member

1901 Posts
2/00
Posted - Dec 3 2001 : 7:46PM
Ok lads, you BOTH have a lot of private dvds, no need for a pissing contest here [;p]. I understand the reason for your initial numbers comment though Wally.

On (some of) Private's directors: I only buy their stuff on DVD. there's so much back-catalogue being released there's no reason for me to worry about their VHS new releases anymore.

On Ninn - I haven't noticed anything new getting released from Tanya Hyde in some time now, IMO Ninn is basically a male version of Hyde, stylistically at least, though Ninn at least shows sex in a more.. sexual way than Hyde did.

On Kovi - Kovi hasn't so far really impressed me. Kovi seems to be the one producing the most workmanlike stuff of Private's productions, which is still better than most US stuff, but that's largely due to budget and cast I think.

Woodman - Woody has for me, as well for many others defined Private's style until now. If he leaves, that will leave me with a pile of his stuff that I've already bought, when they are everntually all released on dvd, as well as more money in my pockets. If his going to Hustler has the same quality in production and cast, I might buy some of those. No biggie.

Adamo - I like his style actually. I think a studio having some stylistic variation in directors is a good thing. Which is actually Kovi's weakest point. I like a bit of high-gloss porn, where you can still see what's going on.

Millerman - I enjoyed his work overall too. Never watched Uranus, which copped a lot of criticism, but I liked the Amanda's stuff a great deal. Is he even still there?

Thring - mostly good, but can have some real misses. Especially when he decides to shag the talent on camera. I liked much of the original Pirate Video Production series, but not all of it.

anyway, thats enough typing for now,

cheers,

scipio

Steve K.
Deactivated User

840 Posts
11/01
Posted - Dec 4 2001 : 7:26AM
Scipio,

You really got the directors down pat. I would agree with you about Kovi. He is a great director, and it makes some really great lesbian scenes. Kovi has directed most of Michelle Wild's movies, and he has done a great job.

scipio
Senior Member

1901 Posts
2/00
Posted - Dec 4 2001 : 7:54AM
My biggest criticism of Kovi would be that his fetish/Pirate stuff is a bit too way-out there for me.

His stuff under the other lines is less "hard" than Woodman, as in less of the multiple-guys-one girl action yet not as "soft" as Millerman or glossy as Ninn/Adamo stuff, which is why I call it "workmanlike" - aka take a standard US feature, and just make it miles better in production and talent (and budget) and that's what you get.

The problem I have with his Pirate stuff is that while the action is generally very hot, there's too much Baggage attatched to it. The opening scene in Splendor of Hell for example is really hot, great sex and well-shot.

Unfortunately there are hunks of cow all over the place. The same applies to much of the outlandish make-up in the same film, and the whole thing with water and fire all over the place. If he just had that cast shagging, without the silly makeup, but with the outfits Michelle Wild and Monique Covet were wearing (and no half-a-dead-cow draped over any of the performers) it would have been an absolutely awesome dvd.

cheers,

scipio

Comet Man
Member

Boston
96 Posts
4/01
Posted - Dec 4 2001 : 10:16AM
Gee, I'm surprised no one has said "I could be a better director than the putzes Private is hiring lately" :-)

All I can say is thanks to Private for the sampler. From the Adamo scene on it, I'd have to say I wouldn't like his work if that is a valid sample. Slow-mo just doesn't do it for me. Like that time Scully directed an episode of the X-files and just about the entire thing was slow-mo.

To me, Private has always meant: beautiful women (w/ fewer tattoos, piercings than other labels), group sex, good video quality (though some of the compilations really suck in thie regard).

Steve K.
Deactivated User

840 Posts
11/01
Posted - Dec 4 2001 : 2:46PM
Scipio,

I never really noticed that about Kovi. I really do think Kovi is a really great director; who doesn't overlap his scenes with dumb music. The one thing I wish he would do more of is lesbian scenes. Usually he only has one in a movie. All of his movies are keepers for me. I just loved Brides & Bitches.

Hardz
Member

Hell on Earth
877 Posts
6/01
Posted - Dec 4 2001 : 3:18PM
This is clearly an "I LOVE PRIVATE THREAD".

To add my 2 cents: With the exception of the MATADOR series Private is predominantly for couples.
My girlfriend loves private (esp. Kovi films), BUT being a 'RAINCOATER' I find Private to be TOO soft.

P.Woodman was good but not great (I don't remember any double anal or good use of toys in his films).
The Superfuckers series was ok, but the use of condoms really put me off.

The best (PRIVATE) director for real hardcore porn has to be J.Y.LeCastel.

Edited by - Hardz on Dec 4 2001

Steve K.
Deactivated User

840 Posts
11/01
Posted - Dec 4 2001 : 4:42PM
Hardz,

You are correct this is a "I Love PRIVATE" topic, and I do love them. Especially now that about 10-15 dvds get released a month. I will also agree the J.Y. LeCastel is amoung the best directors, but I do feel Kovi brings out the best in hot chicks such as Michelle Wild & Rita Faltoyano. I guess that's why there is over 50 studios putting out dvds, because everyone has a taste.

Wally
Senior Member

1821 Posts
8/01
Posted - Dec 4 2001 : 4:45PM
Hardz if you want a Double anal penetration,Gaby marceau does one in Private Gold "Bitches 2" and if you want a Double pussy penetration Gabriella Tchekan gets a hard one in Private Gold "no sun,no fun" and if you want another Double vaginal Kristina does it in Superfuckers 9....oh.. I just remenber another double anal in Superfucker 11 this time..................................................(I went to check the movie again...I hate it when I give the wrong information to people) ..... anyway this time the girl that gets in her ass a couple of dicks is a beautiful blond name Agnes, .....oh what do you know ......I just found another double anal in Superfuckers 6 ..another gorgeous blond Bernadette. donates her ass for a double dosis of cock in her ass. ...oh!..Surprise.. I found an entire Private movie with girls taking "2 cocks in the same hole" incredible but that is exactly the title of the movie.
scipio
Senior Member

1901 Posts
2/00
Posted - Dec 4 2001 : 9:13PM
Comet Man,

Actually, now that you mention it, I did just finish my degree in video production.. .. but no, Private has it down pat technically, they just need someone to whack their directors with a stick whenever they start to get too pretentious in their films or do something that -I- won't like watching..

As for Adamo, I don't have sampler 3 yet, but it does sound like Adamo's style. While I would not want all my smut to be in this style, I do enjoy a bit of it being that way. That's why I'm wary of Ninn. - That Niche (of "arty", high-gloss porn that still has actual SEX happening) has already been filled by Private.


Steve,

Unfortunately he does some stuff (in his Pirate stuff) that I just can't get past. I like to see beautiful women, so when they're wearing stupid-looking makeup and body paint it just frustrates me. Also, the fewer dead animals I see at the same time as hot sex the better. If you've seen the Splendor of Hell, I'd love to know what you thought of it, particularly the first scene with Michelle Wild & Monique Covet.


Hardz,

It's probably an "I love Private" topic because the topic itself attracted people who like Private's stuff. People who don't much care don't care enough to post, generally.

I'll readily admit that taken as a whole, Private is my favourite studio by far. If you want to call it "couple's porn", good for you. I always thought of Vivid and Wicked to be closer to that particular mantle, but again, think what you like.

I personally don't enjoy the type of porn created by J.Y.LeCastel, much of the Euro Angels type stuff, or most Anabolic/Diabolic for that matter. I like seeing what the girls look like, I don't need to see INSIDE the girls.

As for Anabolic and Diabolic, I personally find it to generally be technically competent, but cheaply made with ugly settings, and boring. Those studios have a huge fanbase however, so they're obviously doing something right so more power to them and their fans. Not everyone likes the same things, and there's suppliers for pretty much whatever you want to watch out there as Steve K said.


cheers,

scipio


Edited by - scipio on Dec 4 2001

Sbando Boy
Euro Babe Magnet

1839 Posts
6/01
Posted - Dec 4 2001 : 10:12PM
In the end, this man is our God.
But, most of all, she is our goddess
Hey, you can also write to the Goddess:
michelle@mails.hu.

No sleep 'till Budapest

Edited by - Sbando Boy on Dec 4 2001

 
Steve K.
Deactivated User

840 Posts
11/01
Posted - Dec 5 2001 : 7:46AM
Scipio,

I do have "Slendor of Hell" and I thought it was a good scene. I thought Michelle Wild's scene in it was kick-ass. I do see how you wouldn't like a scene with dead animals in it. I also think alot of Kovi's best work is when Monique & Michelle star in his movies. I do hope Kovi keeps up the excellent work with the Black Label & Pirate Video Deluxe.




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