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Posted - Jul 11 2011 : 8:49PM
I gotta admit, I don't know too much about this. I do know there are different levels of gals who perform sexual services for pay. Street hookers, call girls, Nevada brothel gals, massage parlor gals, ads in the alternative weeklies from girls willing to do it. I was watching some prostitutes on a cable TV channel discussing their trade, but I'm not too sure I still grasp it. Tiger Woods can pay a lady whatever he wants, he buys silence and discretion, probably cleanliness too. One lady was teaching a rookie about how to handle clients. She mentioned she didn't do anything for under $400, that was her stripping and letting the guy jack off looking at her. The price went up from there, hand job, blow job, intercourse. Apparently, it's all negotiable. What's been your experience, how much did it cost, was it worth it. Weneed to know.
Honey, people have been prostituting themselves since the begining of human existance. To get the better hunk of meat, to get the stronger males protection, to get that Lincoln Town Car or that diamond bracelet. That's why it's called the world'ss oldest profession. I think it should be legalized and regulated much like the porn industry.
Not sure if you're using that statement as a pro or a con for prostitution saratoga but plenty of people objecify their partners withough thinking twice about it. Men and women both. They dont just doo that to prostitutes.
That's what I do to all women I've been with and I never feel like I did something wrong. You take them out to dinner, to a movie, buy them flowers or drop a couple hundred on the hotel nightstand....what's the difference?
I think too it depends on your preception of objectification. I mean over the years I've heard the Femnazi's spout their crap about it. In a way I can see hoe some people might see prostitution as objectifying women. There are johns out there that use em like a cheap toy and throw them away. But not all pro's are poor little bottomed out crack whores. Some of them actually choose their profession and they should have the right to, just as they should have the right to walk away instead. Some see it as making people(either gender) feel bad about their bodies, sexuality, and gender. When I think of the term objectification, I think of people that look at others as just something to have sex with, without care about their feelings, health or well being. When the guys that I dated acted like I owed them something because they paid, I'd usually tell them to fuck off. The ones that acted all nonchalant about were usually the ones that got lucky. It always reminded me of that Kevin Wilson song....Do ya fuck on first dates........does your dad own a brewry.....can I squeeze your tits.....or will you show them to me....
i think if a woman has no interest in pursuing the man, no sexual interest from the date she should volunteer to pay half or pay her way. to me by letting the guy pay for everything she is saying she is keen. not in a caveman way that " i paid so you owe me sex" ... more if she isnt want sex with him at all, why would she let him pay? you know what i mean? its like she is acting, well i dont like this guy but ill get a free feed and movie off him. i would respect a woman more if didnt want me to pay if she wasnt keen, id admire that
have never been with a prostitute myself. the closest was a few months ago one of my fav porn stars Jodie Moore who is from my area of australia, was here. i considered seeing her but i cant wrap my head around the idea. i would rather a less attractive woman who wants to fuck me than a very attractive woman who only wants my money. i can mens point about prostitutes but it doesnt excite me at. i know of friends who their work takes them to brothels as a bonus if they work well lol i think she would have to be a very good actress for me to get into it
I would love nothing more than to have sex with a woman who really liked me and wasn't in it for the cash, but after the pages of the calender start flying off and I haven't gotten laid in far too long; I have to get laid. I've found that if there's a local girl who will do that for me at a reasonable price; it's a perfectly fair trade. At least I can get out my pent-up sexual energy while still looking for romance wherever it might be hiding these days. You gotta do what you gotta do. Knowwuddamean?
Oh sure, I'm not that benighted. But I find it difficult to objectify without giving ample warning that this is where my head is at. With a prostitute that appeals to me, there's no such obligation for me.
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Posted - Jul 18 2011 : 12:14AM
About 25 years ago, we had a bachelor party in Las Vegas. The groom-to-be was a partier and a woman-chaser. There was about 2 dozen of us there and we ponied up about $25 each and bought him 2 hookers and an hour at one of those brothels in Pahrump. It was about $600 IIRC. A limo picked up Bruce the prospective groom and about 5 or 6 other guys went. I played golf instead. I had a girlfriend I loved very much, it might hurt her had word gotten back to LA as to what I were doing. I wasn't there so I got it all 2nd hand but Bruce fucked two hookers for the better part of an hour. Well, that's what we planned on. Somehow, the bride-to-be found out, it wasn't from me and called the wedding off. I can understand the way she felt but marrying Bruce who bedded women left and right was going to be a challenge if she expected monogamy. Bruce probably thought monogamy was a hardwood from Honduras.
that makes perfect sense. I see where you are coming from. for me i would need to get my head around it more so. i know a guy who got dumped by wife and totally taken to cleaners..since he will not date anymore but goes to a brothel once a week. he is happy that way so good on him. i almost wished i was into seeing hookers as it would be less drama than making moves with dates but i think that is half the challenge. besides, drumming doesnt pay well enough for me to see hookers the amount of times i need sex lol would need a much better paying job first
lol yeah, he was quite happy with it. if the boss says to work extra hard he always does cause it means a trip up the coast the one of the brothels ive thought about it a few times as i am attracted to women with fake breasts but here in australia rarely ever see them apart from brothels and strip clubs. just have to get it in my head its ok to do
It sounds like you are weighing heavily on the idea of visiting a prostitute or not. I'm not sure what your conflicts are entirely, but one of them sounds like you think you are objectifying the woman, and that causes issues for you. To that I'd say, just remember it is usually her choice to be doing that, so there is really no objectification. Same goes with any type of industry which showcases beauty, i.e. swimsuit pageants, etc. Feminists will have an issue with that as they don't think that way, but in general their opinions have been countered successfully by fully empowered women countless times. I would argue that there is no objectification if it's within their control, so you should have no qualms about it. As long as no one is getting hurt, I don't see what the big deal is. Now if there are other reasons you hesitate, then those should be considered separately. Just my two cents.
I was asked by a very very pretty girl whilst on my way to buy dinner if I wanted a blow job for £10 that's $17 US dollars very very cheap. I had some banter with her which I found really funny as I had never and have never since been asked such a question. For me I made the right decision and cannot see myself ordering in, but you can never say never as none of us know our future circumstances.
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Posted - Jul 21 2011 : 4:51PM
The main problem, as far as I can see, is the prostitute doesn't care about the guy she's going to engage in a sex act(s) with and he doesn't care about her one whit either. One or both of them may harbor contempt and disrespect towards the other but that's speculation on my part. I wouldn't enjoy sex with a lady if I couldn't kiss her, cuddle with her, nuzzle her, caress her all over, take my sweet time, make sure she orgasms at least a couple of times. The vast majority of prostitutes want to spend as little time as possible, get it up, get it in, and get it over with. I fail to see much pleasure in that. I know for certain most prostitutes won't kiss, don't want to cuddle, they might allow the guy to play with their breasts in the hopes it gives the guy a boner quicker, but allowing him to caress her, most prostitutes would rather not. I guess I'll never understand the allure. I can see where lust could enter the picture, maybe a strip club gal appeals to a customer and they agree, for a sum of money, to meet when she gets off work and she'll do a private dance at his place, let him whip it out, do a BJ and some intercourse, at least they've had some interaction beforehand. I know some prostitutes in the legal brothels have regular clients, they work by appointment sometimes, and they might develop some feeling for the guy and vice-versa. That could lead to some fun sex, that I can see. But for the most part, it's just business. Rent-a-pussy.
If this summary is based upon your experience I feel bad for you. You've obviously been trying to get services, "On the cheap". As the saying goes, you get what you pay for. Contrary to your assesment, successful sex service providers know that they are in a market and thusly must provide good service for the money or their clientele' base will dry up. The things you mention that you "know" girls in the business don't doe are those things that make them sought after and viable. Sure, some of the less-than-usual things might cost a bit extra but if you contract the right girl they are a real buy. As far as strippers go, again I guess you've had some experience there too which is contrary to what I know about strippers. I have had friends who dance (strip) both short-term to make some money and career dancers and actually very few do any sex for pay at all. To most I have know, it's a job that when their shift is over they go home as soon as they can. Many establishments in fact have very strict rules about making arrangements with patrons during business hours. Of course it does happen and there indeed are places where it runs rampant but it's not the norm.
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Posted - Jul 24 2011 : 9:02PM
I'm the OP, I guess a couple of you didn't start at the beginning. I used to work for a trucking company and we were located at the end of the street in an industrial area. The main line of the LA-San Diego railroad track was behind where we parked our trailers. We parked trailers at the end of the street and hookers used to go back there in cars, hiding behind the trailers and do their thing. We used to find used condoms all the time. I talked with them on occasion, we had a phone booth and if they wanted to make a call we'd let them. We didn't have a separate lavatory for women by night, a couple of them wanted to pee badly and I let them use the restroom. They are people like everybody else, I didn't treat them differently than I would anybody else. In answer to the question I did try a prostitute in Reno at the Mustang Ranch. I went there for a bachelor party and really didn't want to hire a sex professional. Maybe I have a female outlook, I'd prefer to have some mental/spiritual/ connection along with the physical one. I declined the original lineup and went into the bar. I was drinking a beer and one gal seemed nicer than the rest, we chatted for close to a 1/2 hour, hit it off, and off we went. It was OK. Not great, not bad. She didn't like me caressing her and I have soft hands. I was actually trying to pleasure her and she didn't want that. I suppose that makes sense, it is business and she might save receiving pleasure for her boyfriend or husband, just guessing. She said I had an hour and set a timer. Condoms weren't used back then, the gals were checked every 3 weeks by medical professionals to see if there's a problem. AIDS put an end to condom-less intercourse as far as the legal brothels go. I was hoping some folks here would share their experiences.
I was at a brothel once but did not partake (I'd admit it if I had). I ended up hanging out in the bar while a friend did. The women seemed nice enough but none were worth paying for (IMO), in that none seemed any better than the barristas I'd meet at Starbucks. The only thing you were paying for was assured sex. For that kind of money, I wanted a fantasy fulfilled, which meant a fantasy woman, someone I couldn't conceivably score with under any other circumstance. If the Raquel Welch lookalikes were working, they weren't on that shift.
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Posted - Jul 31 2011 : 6:38AM
Back in the late 70's, I used to go to a bordello in Louisville, on 3rd street. No condoms were used. I paid $100.00 for an hour of "service". They offered other rates for less time. It is my understanding that prices have gone up 100% since then. Of all the women who worked there, I was most fond of a pretty brunette, who had a thick body type. I helped her design a floor plan, for a house she wanted to build. I was taking college classes in Architecture then. Once you paid, you were led upstairs to a large room. The woman would wash your package, while you stood next to her, by a small sink attached to the wall. We started out with a 69, followed by me performing oral sex on her. A radio was tuned to a country music station. I remember keeping rhythm to the tune, "Thank God, I'm a country boy", by John Denver. Good times. Edited by - dogzcatcher on 7/31/2011 6:40:59 AM
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Posted - Aug 15 2011 : 9:05PM
^^^you ate out a prostitute...?? fuck, that's sick...^^^
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Posted - Aug 16 2011 : 12:50AM
^ Your opinion mirrors what statistics report on the habits of clients who frequent bordellos in Nevada. Very few male customers engage in performing oral sex on the prostitutes there as well. Would I do the same thing today? Hell no. Back then, I was a young kid in college, just out of the service, with little experience with women. These days, I just eat out my wife. It is much safer.
As an escort, my clients frequently performed oral sex on me. FREQUENTLY!!!! Like, seriously, they would have been disappointed and not come to see me again if it wasn't on the menu.
I've noticed a tendency of many posters on this forum to lump all prostitutes into one category. It tends to be the lowest of the low. Just sad, really. They want to be enlightened men and "allow" women to be sexually liberated, and to accept sexual transactions as a rational and normal choice some people could make. They just aren't.
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Posted - Aug 16 2011 : 12:33PM
While I would have no problem using a condom with a prostitute (if I was single), I have no clue about the precautions used (if any) when a client performs oral sex on a prostitute these days. Do they use dental dams? Saran wrap? I am thankful to the girl I met in Louisville, all those years ago. She was my teacher. For me, it was more than just getting my nut. It was more about the thrill of experiencing a woman have an orgasm under my tongue. She was gentle. She had a sense of humor. She told me that she "should sell my ass on the street" she liked me so well. Talk about an ego booster! This is me, in 1970. [Image not found DB]
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Posted - Aug 16 2011 : 3:43PM
^^^ Any particular reason your showing us this picture??? lol
^ Talk about wear and tear. I only go down on girls I've been with for a while. I'd never kiss or give oral to some chick I just met. But maybe that's just me. But I would let some random girl suck on this dick B===D~ ~ O-:
Nice pic dude. I like it so much I just beat off twice to it. Thanks for the material and I made it my profile pic for my Facebook page. Hope you don't mind Edited by - thedude008 on 8/16/2011 10:20:35 PM Edited by - thedude008 on 8/16/2011 10:21:20 PM
1. going down on a stranger, is gross anyway 2. going down on a woman who has sex with men all day for a living, is beyond gross imagine going down on a woman and she has already fucked 10 or 12 men that night already you are putting your face/tongue/mouth where 12 other cocks have just been like thedude, i only go down on women i have been sleeping/seeing awhile. if its casual and they are sleeping with other men, then i wont go down at all. also, why pay money to go down on a woman? to do it to someone you are seeing to please her is cool why do it to a prostitute tho? if im forking money over to fuck im not spending time that im paying for to please her.
I agree with Kimmi. But not just men either. Women at my shop who are supposedly all for women's empowerment and all that see porn stars as whores. Myabe some of them are, who knows. But I don't see women making money from porn or the common crack whore as any different from the rest of us. AS I've said before, we all trade sex for money or favors at one time or another. Edited by - sexshopgrl on 8/17/2011 12:47:26 AM
Again, the picture of what a prostitute is/must be emerges from the depths. A dozen men a night, undoubtedly without protection or washing in between. And the John is only paying to fuck her. Even when I turned tricks in strip club basement (we all did, that was the thing at that particular bar - you didn't dance if you didn't trick), we all used condoms. The bar owner/manager kept them on hand and she checked before you went downstairs to make sure you had one with you (If you didn't she charged you 5$ a rubber for one of hers.). The guys had about 15 minutes (3 songs) or they could pay a second bar fee (25$) to stay for another 3 songs. What they paid the pro was between them. You did your thing. He went upstairs. You washed up and got yourself put back together and got back on stage. Most of the guys wanted to talk first, especially after they knew you for a few weeks. They wanted to kiss and fondle and be hugged and petted. They wanted to believe you enjoyed their touch, too. They wanted to lick your pussy and get you hot. The fucking and sucking was just not the biggest part of what it took to be good at it. That was the easy part. Anyone can do that. We were never dirty, smelly, gooey, or any other sex-gross thing. And even though it was the lowest dive bar you can imagine, I never felt the least bit endangered turning tricks there. Everyone was looking out for everyone else. If a guy mistreated a gal, he was promptly removed, and he was remembered. There was never a second chance offered. No drunk guys, no stoned guys, no hurters, beaters or freaks. The only thing I ever worried about was the bar getting busted and the other chicks doing drugs. I left because of that - and the bar did get busted. Years later, when I was a "high priced escort" (I was very reasonably priced - I didn't make bank on being a performer, but I sometimes charged the highest going rate in my local area.) I learned that what men are really paying for is to be made to feel like they are the total center of your attention. They want to be king for an hour or two. They want intelligent conversation on subjects that interest them, they want you to listen to them, they want atmosphere, they want you to look, feel, smell and taste like you spend every minute of your life making yourself into their dream. They want a back-rub, they want a pedicure, they want a meal you prepared in front of them with your own hands from scratch. They want a companion at the theatre, at a concert, at a dinner, at a business affair where they can show other men that they have what it takes to have a lovely, intelligent, witty, savvy, elegant woman attending to them. They want to be a king in the bed, too. They want to make you squirm and squeal and writhe and soak the sheets. They want to turn your knees to rubber and your mind to jelly. They want the clock to run out and for you to never notice, or care, because they are THAT good to you. Again, I say, the fucking and sucking was just not the biggest part of what it took to be good at it. That was the easy part. Anyone can do that.