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RandomPrecision
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Posted - Sep 17 2011 : 7:35AM
What about an examination of the presence of anal in the word Psychoanalysis?
SexShopGrl
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Posted - Sep 17 2011 : 10:52AM
What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof.
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Posted - Sep 17 2011 : 11:00AM
If you had no agenda then you would not be arguing a pseudo-Freudian worldview.
Anal=feces. How is it not dirty?
Oh, great, now we're back to the Victorian "sex is dirty" argument. Guess what, life is dirty, messy, unpredictable, ugly, short, brutal, beautiful, uplifting, wonderful and everything in between. Deal with it, you big baby.
Normal sexual feeling (given to us by evolution) don't misguide us.
Evolution gives us a sex drive. Period. What we do with it is up to us. Nature could not care less whether we succeed or fail.
Hardwere:... on what basis can you lay claim to a preference, other than experience?
A - Logic and reason.

I deny your position has any logic and I've already refuted your reasoning. Try harder.
But shouldn't some "suggestions" be given advantage before others? Like evolution theory before Intelligent Design.
Not unless you can prove them to be true, or at least to be the best explanation available to cover the entire field. Piecemeal logic doesn't count.
You seem to be hiding behind nihilism.
You either can't read for comprehension or you don't know what nihilism means. Either way, not my problem, dude.
But what if they are using defence mechanism to justify they behavior and aren't fully conscious of it. Is it my fault?
Is it your fault for ascribing ulterior motives to anyone who disagrees with your theory? Yes, it is. You haven't proven that others have used a defense mechanism. You've simply stuck your fingers in your ears and sung LA LA LA, which looks a whole lot more like a defense mechanism than what anyone else had done in this thread.
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Posted - Sep 17 2011 : 3:04PM
Your understanding of evolution and psychoanalysis seems completely self-invented. Psychoanalysis hardly qualifies as a science, it's closer to a philosophy and theory of treatment, and while evolution is well established, most 'evolutionary psychology' continues to be rank speculation and prejudice with pretensions to scientific certainty.
 
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Sometimes a butthole is just a butthole.
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And thus concludes my knowledge of Fraud.
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Posted - Sep 18 2011 : 12:40PM
RandomPrecision: What about an examination of the presence of anal in the word Psychoanalysis?
A Ha-ha, that's funny.
Sexshopgirl: What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof.
A. How convenient for you.
Hardware: If you had no agenda then you would not be arguing a pseudo-Freudian worldview.
A. I am not arguing anything. You are seeing ghosts.
Hardware: Guess what, life is dirty, messy, unpredictable, ugly, short, brutal, beautiful, uplifting, wonderful and everything in between. Deal with it, you big baby.
A. I knew you were a nihilist!
Hardware: You've simply stuck your fingers in your ears and sung LA LA LA, which looks a whole lot more like a defense mechanism than what anyone else had done in this thread.
A. That is true, but that's just because i didn't see any other explanation here, just justifications, so i had to defend my own position.
Hardware: Evolution gives us a sex drive. Period. What we do with it is up to us. Nature could not care less whether we succeed or fail.
A. Correct, nature seems to be blind, but we are not. If we didn't follow nature (hetero sexuality) we would die out as spices. You wouldn't be here if your ancestors liked anal. Actually, deviant sexual behaviors is a way for nature/evolution to get rid of decadent individuals, so that they are incapable of getting offspring, natures own way of thinning out the heard. It is getting rid of perversion and degeneracy. How many gays,porn-stars,transsexuals have kids? This has been going on for ever, you just happened to stand and defend the losing side with your nihilistic worldview. By defending perversion, you eventually become one. Perhaps nature is not blind after all.
But lets say i am wrong and you are wright. I would like to hear your opinion on: bestiality, incest, pedophilia and rape?
RandomPrecision
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Posted - Sep 18 2011 : 1:38PM
1. So your theory is that no one ever liked anal before there was anal porn and you noticed it? Seriously? This is your argument? You don't think there were people in animal skins fucking each other up the ass?
2. We won't die out as a species as a result of people having anal sex. They can and will still have vaginal sex when/if they decide to reproduce. There are still more than enough idiots reproducing to keep the species going. The human race is more like cockroaches than any kind of endangered species. This is just a laughable argument.
3. In fact, I am a bi male and I love pussy almost as much as I love butthole. In fact, I'm obsessed with females. Getting fucked in the ass by other men was never much more than a curiosity for me. An enjoyable one but a curiosity. Something to do when I could find willing male partners and no female partners. Females never wanted much to do with me and I was a realist. while other guys my age were running around lying about how much pussy they were getting, I was having real sex with people who were as horny as I was.
This would be true if humans didn't have the intelligence to make a decision to engage in deviant behavior when they feel like it and then to reproduce when they're ready. But humans are not like other animals in that we can argue with nature. A gay man isn't incapable of reproduction. He's just unlikely to want to reproduce. But he still could if he wanted to. Assuming he could find a receptive female.
I don't know. How many of them want kids? I do know some porn stars have kids. Before, during and after their porn careers. I wouldn't be arrogant enough to suggest being gay makes a man or woman incapable of the desire to have children. I have known gay Republicans, after all. Some of them probably adopt kids or can go bi for long enough to be a father/mother.
The funny thing is the word "perversion". It's actually a misnomer. Because it's as natural as everything else. As they say, if you weren't meant to masturbate, you wouldn't be able to reach your dick. Whatever "perversions" there may be were all fashioned by the same hand that fashioned the things you think are proper.
Obviously some of them are things that will not be allowed to go on. Consenting adults buttfucking each other doesn't seem to be in the same category as pedophilia and sex with dogs as far as most sane people are concerned.
By the way. Have you seen the doo doo hole thread yet?
Edited by - randomprecision on 9/18/2011 1:45:44 PM
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Posted - Sep 18 2011 : 5:41PM
A cheap shot signals an inability to provide a meaningful response. That's one point against you.

Hardware: If you had no agenda then you would not be arguing a pseudo-Freudian worldview.
A. I am not arguing anything. You are seeing ghosts.

Denial also signals an inability to provide a meaningful response. That's two points against you.

Hardware: Guess what, life is dirty, messy, unpredictable, ugly, short, brutal, beautiful, uplifting, wonderful and everything in between. Deal with it, you big baby.
A. I knew you were a nihilist!

If I am to take that you are using the philosophical definition of nihilism then that's three strikes, and you're out.
Hardware: You've simply stuck your fingers in your ears and sung LA LA LA, which looks a whole lot more like a defense mechanism than what anyone else had done in this thread.
A. That is true, but that's just because i didn't see any other explanation here, just justifications, so i had to defend my own position.

Game over.
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Posted - Sep 18 2011 : 7:51PM
The Anal Sex Wikipedia page should suffice. There you will find "our ancestors" depicted in artwork, quite happily butt-fucking each other since 510BC.
This is because (Shock! Horror!) anal sex wasn't invented by Max Hardcore, circa 1999. It's actually as old as the moment humans worked out that one part can fit into another.
The concept of CONSENSUAL ADULT SEXUAL RELATIONS is completely lost on you, isn't it? You really have no clue about anything. I hope, for your sake, that you are merely a troll, because it is quite frankly depressing that people are honestly this dumb-arse (I know they are, but one can optimistically hold out vain hope).
I shall reply no more to this thread, as it does amount to troll feeding, regardless. If by chance, these are genuinely DylanDog's true beliefs and he isn't just here to elaborately annoy with his skim-read, self-concocted notions on Psychoanalysis, I doubt anyone here can help the poor guy.
Frankly, it's not worth it. It ultimately, means fuck-all to me what he believes. One could write several books discussing the inherent problems with Freudian Psychoanalysis to begin with, let alone DylanDog's take on it here; but there's little reason to do so, as any attempt at rational argument is refuted, as he flat-out refuses that humans can enjoy anal sex AS WELL AS vaginal, oral, etc. etc...
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RandomPrecision
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Posted - Sep 18 2011 : 8:07PM
I'm actually rather curious as to what gets someone so upset over something like anal sex. I think there has to be more to a person who goes so far out of his way to vilify consensual sexual activity than meets the eye.
It would almost be disappointing if he was just another troll.
Edited by - randomprecision on 9/18/2011 8:07:46 PM
SexShopGrl
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Posted - Sep 18 2011 : 8:27PM
^ That's what I would rather know. Not what makes people want to have anal (or any other type) sex.
I mean lets face it, we've all read things others have posted and we go "ewwwwww!" Maybe because it's just not something that turns you on. For example my thing about spitting. You guys talk about stuff like that and I go "eeewwww" but you're not spitting on me so no problem. I could give a shit less.
The people I've never understood are the ones that are SO repulsed by a certian type of sexual act regardless of whether it's a mainstream type thing (such as oral) or not (such as something like adult breastfeeding for example). I think that most people who are that set against someone elses personal choices are usually curious about it and don't want to admit it. But why? I guess it's kinda like homophobia. They refuse to acknowledge their own homosexual curiosities which turns to self-hatred which they turn outwardly to other homosexuals........or something like that.
Anyway.....I'm gonna go sit over here and eat some popcorn......
angryassdrummer
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Posted - Sep 18 2011 : 11:33PM
i think over analyzing is silly
but
i know i enjoy it a lot when its with someone who hasnt done it before or rarely does it
i enjoy it anyway, but that is just like the iceing on the asscake
also, i like it even more so when the woman is really into it..as in gets off on it, harder the better.
some women do it just to please their man, thats ok... but when the woman is really into it and initiates it then its amazing
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RandomPrecision: So no one ever liked anal before there was anal porn and you noticed it?
A. No, there have always been perversion, but in insignificant numbers, and strict social rules made shore that it remind that way. And also deviant sexual behavior is a sign of cultural decadence. I cant really picture Mohawks engaging in anal sex.
RandomPrecision: We won't die out as a species as a result of people having anal sex. This is just a laughable argument.
A. What i meant was that perversions leads to degeneracy, ultimately ostracizing you from society and making your chances of reproduction very small.
RandomPrecisionIt's: actually a misnomer. Because it's as natural as everything else. As they say, if you weren't meant to masturbate, you wouldn't be able to reach your dick.
A. Sorry but that argument is liam. It can also be used to justify anything else. I saw doo doo hole thread, its great!
Dubious_Leftovers: There you will find "our ancestors" depicted in artwork, quite happily butt-fucking each other since 510BC.
A. So? There have always been perverts, i am not denying that. It has always been unacceptable, and always will, and there is biological reason for that, but you are incapable of seeing this.
Dubious_Leftovers: he flat-out refuses that humans can enjoy anal sex AS WELL AS vaginal, oral, etc. etc.
A. etc etc.? Hmmm, perhaps you are hiding something behind these: etc. etc.? Humans enjoy regular sex, degenerates enjoy anal. Face your weakness!
It would almost be disappointing if he was just another troll?
A. Whats do you mean by this troll? I don't get it?
SexShopGrl: I think that most people who are that set against someone else's personal choices are usually curious about it and don't want to admit it?
A. "Personal choices"? I explained to you that it is not a personal choice. Evolutions makes no mistakes. You perverted your sexuality that was given to you because of some weakness, (often in childhood). But it is probably not your fault, because you are a woman. So anal for example, was never you idea, you were introduced to it by some depraved male. Right? It is simple to explain because males sex-drive is 10 times stronger then that of a woman. For example sex for males is associated with control,power and domination. For example a rapist never rapes to have sex, he does it to reinforce his masculinity and feel in control that he somehow feels that he lost. He wants to feel in power, but he is to degenerate to face his fears about his lack of control, so he unfortunately proceeds with it. For women sex is completely different. So it is highly unlikely that you initiated in the first place.
angryassdrummer: also, i like it even more so when the woman is really into it..as in gets off on it, harder the better.
A. But what if it was regular sex, would it still bring you pleasure? Way do you specifically like anal?
Hardware:
A. I knew you would run away from my question about bestiality etc. You don't want people here to know that you don't condemn it. It all the same for you; anal, children, rape, animals. Years of decadence have made you so ethically corrupt that you are incapable of drawing any lines. You are afraid to be proven wrong, so you hide behind nihilism, because it is the only thing that justifies your degeneracy and moral indifference. You need to face your inferiority issues! Good luck!
 
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Posted - Sep 19 2011 : 2:44PM
How do you know that?
I wouldn't be able to imagine a dog taking a shit either. If I'd never seen it.
Perhaps. I'm not gonna bother to argue about whether it does or doesn't do what you say it does. But assuming it does, what of it? If it does, I'm the only one who should care and I don't. I don't give a shit. Period. And butt sex didn't cause me to not give a damn. I never did. I just got older. I hope I don't reproduce because then there'd be two people as miserable as I am.
I hate to tell you this but I don't think Liam knows anything about this thread.
And I don't have to justify butt sex to you. It's my butt and my dick and either way, it's my choice (and that of any other consenting adult who agrees to have butt sex with me).
Edited by - randomprecision on 9/19/2011 2:57:38 PM
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Posted - Sep 19 2011 : 6:26PM
Awww damn, there goes another one of your stupid theories.
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Posted - Sep 20 2011 : 3:00AM
Hi! I am informing you guys that i am abandoning my psychoanalytic/introspective theory. Now i see that psychoanalytic theory cant be applied. It seems to my that our motives are very complicated things. It finally struck my that one single motive contains 100 small ones, and that these also are built up by even smaller ones. Motives are also very individual, even among twins living in the exact same environment. My attempt of tracking back our mind was pure hubris. I was certain that i had something huge going on, but it was pure speculations. I guess that we cant understand our motives completely, i just have to accept that. Tanks everyone for making me see this. I apologize for my stubbornness, but you must admit that psychoanalytic theories are hilarious.
It would be wise to accept Hardwares theory: curiosity and exploiting the environment are inherent in our nature. I hate this guy, with all his brilliant answers, don't you?
SexShopGrl: I apologize to you for my theory (feces/daddy issues). It was pure speculation and pure entertainment from my side. Don't take it seriously. Sorry.
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Posted - Sep 22 2011 : 11:30PM
Thank you. I like having buttsecks because well...I love a woman's ass. It's nasty and it shows a higher level of intimacy. To quote Al Pacino from Heat "A woman's ass...makes somethin come outta me."
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Posted - Sep 27 2011 : 12:25PM
i like anal..well because it feels great..actually i am in love with big massive huge butts and as with anything attractive and pleasurable, you wanna try it to..vaginal sex is ok but anal is something which gives me the much needed pleasure. Seriously, I dont bother much with vag sex and can pass it on in exchange of good anal!
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Posted - Feb 17 2012 : 4:50PM
I'm a little surprise that wahine hasn't posted here. As self proclaimed "Anal Queen" this thread is right up her back alley!
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There is no one absolut answer, but various answers to each people like anal sex.
Because you can see a answer: "yes, I like anal sex", but this answer means one thing to one people and other meaning to other people.
Its like a people answer that he like football. But, the real answer that you have to do is: what you like in football? why do watch football or play football?
Each people experiment anal sex in a differant way, for different motives.
I like anal sex because is atractive on visual aspect, I like butts, specially, I like do see butts, anal sex is one way to see.
I dont like anal sex because I think it is dominant, I dont think it is, if the woman want this, so, is not dominant for my opinion. I dont think and I dont like to see sex and heterosexuality in that way. But I think and agree with more people that anal sex is nastier and hotter, I think its erotic and it is another motive to me like anal sex.
I think and a I like a sex without shame. I like a woman that is open for new kinds of sex, because i want to do a relantionship that is open with her, that I can express myself how I really is for her and I want that do the same with me. Anal sex is part of that, is a part of find, explore and understand more the body with the people with you like, so, I want to deliver myself to her and I expect the same of her.
Sorry for my bad english, Im a brasilian.
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