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Galento
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Posted - May 27 2012 : 7:46AM
Never was in the Anco, didn't care much for theatre porn. Long movies with little action - and no fast forward!
Browsing the peeps was more fun.
I did see the boring live show once at the Avon7 -
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Posted - May 27 2012 : 5:53PM
^What was boring about the live show?
Galento
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Posted - May 28 2012 : 1:17AM
They were like robots, said nothing.
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Posted - May 28 2012 : 1:42AM
^That sucked. Strippers are supposed to have personality, just like any other kind of entertainer.
 
Galento
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Posted - May 28 2012 : 2:25AM
^
They weren't strippers.
Looked like a truck driver and his gf.
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Robert
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Posted - May 28 2012 : 2:45PM
Did you notice that the Victory sign lacks lighting in the same letters on both sides of the theater. In each, only the VIC appears to be lighted.
Myload
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Posted - May 28 2012 : 7:01PM
^Yes, I noticed that. I don't know if that was intentional or not, but it does seen weird. The marquee looked like it was in decent condition when that picture was taken.
Myload
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Posted - Jun 4 2012 : 12:28AM
Here is a picture of 42nd Street from back in the day:
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It's cool seeing all those movie theaters in a row.
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Posted - Jun 8 2012 : 6:21PM
I just found out there was a porn theatre in Santa Monica called the Yale, which was on Wilshire and Yale. I never knew a movie theatre existed at that location. However, I can't find a picture of it anywhere. It has a Cinema Treasures page, but the picture on the page is of what's there now, which is a vacant store.
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Posted - Jun 8 2012 : 6:49PM
Possibly because the sign lit up one letter at a time, in a scroll? I'm just guessing, I wasn't fortunate enough to see 42nd Street in its heyday.
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Posted - Jun 15 2012 : 12:19PM
It's so different now, it defies the imagination...
Galento
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Posted - Jun 15 2012 : 8:28PM
^
Very kid friendly!
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Myload
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Posted - Jun 16 2012 : 2:51AM
^It doesn't look like the same place at all.
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Posted - Jun 16 2012 : 8:33AM
^It's not... though one can still find the remains of the old adult scene over on 8th Ave. -- one street over from 7th Ave. up by Times Square. (7th...where Times Square is...and 8th are connected by the most touristy part of 42nd St. This part of 42nd St is technically a part of Times Square.)
Some of the adult stuff still exists (on 8th Ave.) ... but it's a sad and tiny shadow of what it apparently used to be.
Here's a shot that I took this past March of 42nd St itself... shot from 8th Ave. down toward 7th Ave. (7th is where the main Times Square area is----which is the area that Galento's most recent photo above appears to be of--that's even different now, btw, as much of it has been cordoned off for foot traffic as a sort of sit-down, outdoor "park".).
42nd St -- March, 2012:
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Just for fun, here's a shot that I took of what's left of the "Show World Center" (8th Ave. and ~42nd St), which apparently used to feature everything from X-rated videos up through live sex shows in a multi-level "circus" atmosphere. It was apparently quite popular. People like Joey Silvera, Jamie Gillis, Sharon Mitchell, Vanessa Del Rio, etc. all worked there in one form or another...
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[The red circle is where I believe that it _was_ (plus basements), the yellow circle is what's left (plus basements), and the purple arrow shows what I believe to be a remnant of it above the Laugh Factory -- which I hear is closed and something else is in there now. This photo was also taken in March, essentially turning-around and shooting from where the first photo was taken.]
(In this link, you can see more photos of the old Show World Center and read a bit about what happened to it.)

Edited by - fu_q on 6/16/2012 9:38:41 AM

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Posted - Jun 16 2012 : 9:28AM
This looks good. I will have to get it.
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Posted - Jun 16 2012 : 9:48AM
Cool!
You can put this in reference to my photo of 42nd Street above by using the "Modell's" sign as a common point of reference.
That is, provided that it hasn't moved locations on that small stretch of street.
(EDIT: I take it back... Modell's must have moved over time. The Victory is on the opposite side of the street)
Edited by - fu_q on 6/16/2012 10:22:16 AM
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Posted - Jun 16 2012 : 9:58AM
This is apparently where the Playland Gifts store is now.
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Myload
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Posted - Jun 16 2012 : 1:00PM
^They should have at least kept the marquee. It a shame they didn't.
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Posted - Jun 16 2012 : 1:04PM
I remember seeing something on TV about the Empire being moved down the street, as in the building being literally moved. I think they used railroad tracks to accomplish that. I know it's now a multiplex. But like with the Victory, the original marquee should have remained. It could have been refurbished and AMC could have just stuck their logo on it.
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Posted - Jun 16 2012 : 1:15PM
Going by the pictures, 42nd Street now looks like Downtown Disney or Universal Citywalk, but on an actual street.
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Posted - Jun 16 2012 : 1:28PM
^^Yeah... I just found a link for that one... (no porn history, though... but still cool...)
"On March 1, 1998, Forest City Ratner lifted the historic facade of the Empire theater, placed it on a specially made track and moved the structure 168 feet west down 42nd Street to its current home. The theater re-opened on April 17, 2000 as the entrance to the AMC Empire 25 cineplex."
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*Small bit of trivia -- the first movie that I saw in NYC was at that theater -- Frank Miller's "Sin City" (April, 2005)... the place has level-upon-level of theaters... never been in another like it before nor since.
Edited by - fu_q on 6/16/2012 1:29:05 PM
 
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Posted - Jun 16 2012 : 1:31PM
True.
It, coupled with the main Times Square area that it leads to over on 7th Ave. can be quite awe-inspiring, however.
That said, it's clear that a lot of charm has been lost.
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Posted - Jul 26 2012 : 8:40AM
Great thread.
I used to frequent the theaters in Times Square. Some of them felt much safer than others, and Show World and Show Follies were among the safest. I had the impression that they were owned by the same people, and some of the stars would dance at one, walk to the other, and perform there.
Show Follies was much smaller than Show World, and I preferred the more intimate setting. At both, most of the girl's offered $1 titty gropes, and a few allowed a little fingering. Live sex shows were often on the menu. One of the couples that frequently performed at both went on stage with a dildo, and sometimes they would allow a patron to use it on the lady. Occasionally, this would become a pseudo-gangbang, in which her "co-star" would fuck her, while selected patrons could grope her.
A lot of the patrons would openly masturbate. I never witnessed physical contact between patrons, and the girls would only rarely touch a patron's cock. The more intimate setting at the Follies meant that these informal rules were more likely to be broken there, and one of the strippers fucked me while the others patrons watched. She went on to suck off some of the other guys, but I don't remember ever seeing any other patrons have actual sex there.
I only went to the Victory once. A skinny little crack whore sat down next to me, flirted a bit, and started to suck my cock without my consent. As I was telling her to stop, I noticed her hand reaching into my pocket and pulling out some cash. We eventually had a dispute in the lobby during which she threw my money on the ground. As I said, I only went there once.
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Posted - Jul 26 2012 : 6:28PM
^That's cool you went to the Victory, though that sucks about the whore (no pun intended). Her goal was obviously to steal your money, and her sucking your dick simply a distraction. I'm glad you were able to stop her and get your money back. But other than that, what was the experience like? And what was the theatre itself like? Did you ever go to the Anco?
Also, I just thought live sex show meant a strip show. I didn't think it meant people actually having sex onstage.
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Posted - Jul 26 2012 : 9:51PM
^ If I ever went to the Anco, it didn't make a strong impression.
"Live Sex Show" could mean whatever the people who made the Marquee wanted it to mean. The places I frequented usually rotated four or five performers, and one of these would be a couple, but most places only featured dancing girls.
At Show World, for a while they had trannies in the basement. I had a friend who-- when he was drunk one time-- basically said that he liked trannies, and went to Show World, where the trannies would blow him in the glass booths. I never followed up to get more details, and never hired a booth "girl," but I checked out the theater one time. I wouldn't be surprised if guys got blown three minutes after I left. A lot of patrons were unzipped; the dancer was hard; and she was walking around the audience letting guys stroke her cock for the same $1 tip as a titty grope cost upstairs.
It felt safe, but I left after just a few minutes, so I have no idea what else might have happened.
In the straight theater upstairs, titty gropes were common, but fingering was rare, and for a performer to touch a patron's cock was extremely unusual.
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Posted - Jul 28 2012 : 8:17AM
CL's stories are great, I only know things second hand, but from what I've read at least in the early-to-mid-70s there was some actual live sex shows, a lot of the early actors and actresses in porn got their start doing them while also working in loops.
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Posted - Jul 28 2012 : 11:51AM
^I totally agree with you about that. His and other people's stories give us more insight on the area at the time, especially since we didn't get to experience it ourselves. I'll tell you, Los Angeles was tame in comparison.
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Posted - Jul 28 2012 : 2:12PM
^^
I arrived in New York in 1984, so I can't speak about what happened in the 70's. But I don't remember ever seeing any of the girls who performed in the fuck shows later appearing on video or the silver screen.
But one girl who had done a few hardcore roles stripped at Show World pretty regularly-- Susaye London.
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She was one of my favorites, because if a guy "gave a standing ovation" during her shows, she would linger a little longer in front of him and spread her legs a little wider than if he was just sitting back in his chair doing nothing.
One time, I was rubbing my jeans pretty furiously. I was a regular, so she knew that I was happy to "let her watch me watching her." She got off the stage, and started to rub her body against my hardon. Before she returned to the stage, she whispered in my ear that I should unzip my fly, which I proceeded to do just in time to give her a great big sticky ovation.
Fixed typo.
Edited by - cumminglinguist on 7/28/2012 2:50:38 PM
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Posted - Jul 28 2012 : 6:39PM
^That's a great story. Show World sounded like a happening place.
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Posted - Jul 28 2012 : 9:24PM
^ I enjoyed it, but there were other places that were even wilder.
Sue Nero showed up at Show World a couple of times, but she mainly worked at a place called The Harmony-- or maybe "The Melody"-- on 48th Street that later moved downtown.
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The girls there were giving lap dances before anyone ever used the term. I only went a few times, but I definitely enjoyed myself. One time, Sue used her leg on my crotch while I fondled her big softies until I made a mess in my pants. She didn't seem to be into it in the same way Susaye London was, but I was NOT complaining.
Another time, two really hot girls gave me a lapdance together until I .... spent all my money. I may not have been "completely satisfied," but I walked out with a smile on my face.
I used to go on these little sexual shenanigans about once a week. One guy seemed to be at Show World every single time I visited, and I suspected he was an even bigger pervert than I was. We talked briefly one time, and he told me that he also liked to go to the Harmony, and that I should take a condom if I really wanted to enjoy myself.
I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if the girls at the Harmony were regularly providing "mouth dances" and "unzipped lap dances," but I never witnessed it myself.

Edited by - cumminglinguist on 7/28/2012 9:32:18 PM

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Posted - Sep 16 2012 : 7:18PM
Here is a picture of the Cave Theatre:
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Posted - Jul 24 2013 : 11:52PM
There is the Deja Vu Adult Emporium, which is near the Orleans. From what I read it has a movie theatre as well as video booths and a sex shop. Is that the place in question?
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Posted - Jul 27 2013 : 11:02AM
Yep.
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Posted - Jul 27 2013 : 12:44PM
^Awesome. I plan to go there the night before my wedding. Because of your post about the place I looked for it on Google Maps. This sounds like the Vegas answer to the Tiki Theatre (the movie theatre part anyways). But unlike the Tiki, this place looks clean.
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Posted - Jul 28 2013 : 9:51AM
It is very clean, but a lot smaller than I thought it would be with only about 20-30 seats.
I always wished that we could have a little cinema in Vegas during AVN week that showed all the feature movies up for nomination. This year they showed the G-rated versions of some of the movies in the Vinyl Club at the Hard Rock, but that was pretty lame.
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Posted - Aug 6 2013 : 8:32PM
The Adult Superstore has a movie theatre. It's also in Las Vegas.
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Posted - Sep 21 2013 : 2:32PM
The Deja Vu Adult Emporium is a very clean place, including the movie theatre. Nobody there did anything inappropriate. There are actually two separate sections in the theatre, both with a big screen and a small screen (the audio coming from the big screens only). The woman behind the counter didn't try to dissuade me from going in the theatre. The video booths are nice too, though it was hard to operate the controls. And if you mention their Yelp page to them, you get a 20% discount on all merchandise.
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Posted - Sep 22 2013 : 10:05AM
Thanks for the update Myload. I will probably check it out again in January as I often buy mags to get signed at the AVN show from that store. I have a knack for stumbling upon public masturbators - a guy at the urinal next to me (in a crowded men's toilet in a bar) a few weeks ago is a case in point.
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Posted - Sep 24 2013 : 11:23PM
^No problem. Too bad you run into public masturbators, though. I bet you didn't expect to run into one at a bar. I guess that some guys can't wait to pull their pork.
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Posted - Oct 5 2013 : 2:31PM
That sucks about the Apex. It looked like an old classic movie theatre. But it's not a surprise it closed. It's good to see it lasted as long as it did, but fate finally caught up with it. Like the drive-in, the porn theatre is a thing of the past and a product of a bygone era.
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Posted - Oct 5 2013 : 2:32PM
Here is a picture of the Apex:
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Posted - Nov 30 2013 : 2:09PM
^Another one bites the dust.
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^Great article. I didn't even think the Tiki was still around. But there it is, and it got a new sign on top of it. Also, it looks like it was cleaned up a little bit. I still have never been there, though. As for Studs, I actually went by that area a month or so ago, and I swear the theatre was demolished. I must have just missed seeing it.
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