If it seems faked, it sucks. For the funniest, most extreme quagging, check out Mysti May's scenes - particularly "One Lucky Fuck". Watching that scene is the closest I've ever come to laughing and orgasming simultaneously. Truly memorable!
Everything Mysti May does is like that. It's really strange. When I first saw her in a scene, she really got on my nerves. Then, I noticed she has such a glorious ass and legs so I really can't help but like watching her. But then, when I do, I don't know whether to jack off or die laughing. Is it an act? I don't know. But that girl says some of the funniest shit I've ever heard in porn. She never shuts up and she just says whatever crosses her mind, apparently. It's even funnier when she's paired up with one of those guys who never shuts up.
It has gone over the top in a lot of cases but that sure doesn't mean it can't be sexy. And I tend to disagree with you on your last statement. A lot of people like to watch this stuff precisely because it isn't really something that you can usually do in real life. In my book, porn basically exists to vicariously experience fantasies that just aren't realistic. If you're married and get sex every day or whenever you want it, why would you buy porn just to watch the same thing you can have for real anytime? You generally wouldn't. You buy porn to fill in for what you want but can't have (for whatever reason. Whether it be that you don't have a woman or she won't do what you like). It's one of the main reasons why anal is such a big thing in porn. It's a whole lot harder to get a woman to do anal (unless she likes it. Which I think is pretty rare, actually) than it is to get them to do vaginal. Some of us are lucky if we can even get a blowjob or vaginal sex. Porn is all about giving the male what he really wants in a way that doesn't cause social problems in the real world.
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Kensington Chapp Senior Citizen
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Posted - Feb 18 2008 : 5:29PM
Porn producers are real worried about social problems.
This seems like way too simplistic a reason for sales being down. I highly doubt this one occasional factor has much to do with lagging dvd sales. If this is what I'm thinking, then I like it. It isn't the only way I like to see bjs though. I like the sensual way as well. And yes, I have had a bj from a real live girl.
Well, my theory is that if you're laughing while you're watching porn, you're probably watching the wrong kind of porn. There's a porn for everybody (almost). The mainstream of any kind of product is almost always homogenized. It will follow the trends. Whatever they are. If you don't like the mainstream, you might have to search a little harder for something you do like. Which can be a problem with porn because there's so much of it and the promos for all of it claim to be the best ever. I find trendy clothing laughable at best. Mainstream TV usually does nothing for me. I turn it on, watch for about 15 minutes and laugh at how pretentious everything is. That's why I don't watch much TV. Edited by - randomprecision on 2/19/2008 4:05:53 PM
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Kensington Chapp Senior Citizen
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Posted - Feb 19 2008 : 5:16PM
I feel your pain, brother. Except I just get angry, at how unbelievably shite most TV and film writing is these days.
Paint-by-numbers porn videos are often unintentionally hilarious. Canned lines from the girl like, "fuck my tight little ass with your hard cock!" And the guys/girls acting like they're having the fuck session of the century, only to have the guy struggle with all his mental powers to jerk off on the girl's face at the end. As for Quagging... I don't hate it... I just find it annoying. Blowjobs can be good to watch, but not when the girl sounds like some sort of water pump rather than a beautiful seductress.
Don't ask me why, but I actually love quagging (when it's not over exaggerated, that is). I don't care much for actual gagging- just looks painful and reminds me of all my deep-throating attempts and subsequent icky gags. But when a gal knows what she's doing and makes that sound, it's just hot as hell to me. And Russell Brand agrees! It's the best example I have of the act without showing someone actual porn. :)
I'm going to say I love duck sounds, since everyone who came out against it in this topic got deactivated. Remember that dark brothers movie that had a duck suit gang bang? Only in that one, the guys were quacking. Now if a woman wanted to quag while wearing a swan outfit like Bjork, that would be Christmas.
I have always assumed that the word "quagging" was an intentionally derisive phrase denoting a portmanteau of the combination of totally fake ridiculous quacking noises, combined with equally fake, or at least ridiculously exaggerated, gagging. Therefore speaking of "not over exaggerated" quagging is somewhat oxymoronic at best, since all quagging is by definition "over exaggerated". In fairness, reasonable people could disagree on what constitutes "over", so let's just eliminate that qualifier for the moment and all agree that 'quagging' is by its very definition intentionally exagerated and therefore FAKE to some degree. I have watched girls that I know can deepthroat a meat log the size of your arm, suddenly seem to be choking to death with ridiculous "gup, gup, gup, quack, quack, quack" sound effects, while bobbing up and down on a guy with a 5 or 6 inch wang. Really, pleeeze, give me a break!!! Is there anyone gullible or stupid enough to believe this kind of stuff has any verisimilitude whatsoever? Verisimilitude is important in porn. It's why marketable porn these days is hardcore, graphic, and almost always ends in a close up, on camera, money shot. Seeing that final rhythmic spurt, spurt, spurt triggers something primal deep in the id that says, "THIS is REAL". All you guys who like 'real' quagging should probably que up next to the guys who believe that when a girl squats down and flails at her pussy like she is having a seizure, then launches a stream of piss eight feet across the room, that she is having a "vaginal ejaculation" orgasm. Personally, I don't mind these fake "squirt orgasms" nearly as much as quagging, because they have an alternate 'reality' that is potentially even nastier (i.e. Looky there! That girl just PISSED in the other girls mouth, yuk!!!) But 'quagging' leaves me totally cold, because the droning "gub, gub, gub, gub" sound effects very quickly start to sound like "fake, fake, fake, fake" and that, I'm afraid, is a total wood killer for me. If ADT has the capacity to do so, perhaps it would be useful to actually do a survey. It seams like it would be valuable to know if, for example, quagging only excites 10% or 20% of the audience, while 80% or 90% of potential buyers object so strongly that they will NOT buy a title that's reviews mention quagging (I am afraid I would fall into that group). Of course, if the numbers go the other way, well then fine, I guess we will all have to learn to love fake duck noises. Then let the producers and directors vote with their pocketbooks, by choosing to target the mainstream audience, or niche market. But the first step, would be to have some real numbers, gathered from a survey, not just anecdotal impressions garnered from a few strongly opinionated posters (including myself). Edited by - 30cc Load on 7/20/2009 9:22:32 AM
^ I guess I need new words to describe it, then. I say I don't like gagging because I really don't- and maybe because I define it differently. To me, a gag is that reaction where your throat tries to get you to expel whatever's in it or near it, that vomitous warning that mimics puking, minus the puke. It can be silent or loud. And then quagging is that "guk guk guk" sound during a deep blowjob. I don't equate it with gagging at all, because the girls doing it never seem to be having such a reaction; it's just a really fun sound. Now, if she's making it to give the impression that she's gagging, then that is a big exaggeration. But just making it, well, I still find it sexy.
^ I agree that the word quagging is intended to describe that "guk, guk, guk" sound that you seem to find so stimulating, but disagree with pretty much everything else you said. Clearly the sound IS, by its very definition, supposed to be half way between a stupid quacking "Gup!" noise, and an outright gagging sound (thus the name). If you haven't seen real gagging, retching, and outright vomiting, then you clearly haven't watched any of the true quagging connoisseur titles, like 'Gag Factor' or 'Throat Gaggers'. As if this weren't bad enough, the true 'queens of quag' have this really disgusting way of morphing that annoying "guk, guk, guk" sound right into a retching "urrrrp" and then tossing their cookies and puking out their mouth and nose at the same time (lovely!). Great as quagging is, I've got a new one -- "Furping" (you heard it here first folks!) that could be even more erotic. "Furping" is, of course, the act of making highly erotic repetitive farting and burping noises at the same time over, and over, and over again, while doing an anal-oral sex scene. This is a bit like quagging, but is even better, because it's something that the girl can do while doing a 2 on 1 scene with a pair of guys! Every time first guy shoves his cock in her ass, she FARTS, and every time that the other guy shoves his cock into her mouth, she BURPS! "FURPssst, FURPssst, FURPssst, FURPssst, FURPssst." Of course it might be a little difficult for our intrepid actress to summon up the necessary reserves of flatulence without asphyxiating everyone else on the set, but that's no problem really, as you can just get her to cut loose with one really nice wet one, then loop the same 2 seconds of sound over and over and over again for an hour (which seems to be pretty much what they do in all JM productions anyway) Now, if we could only figure out a way to combine that in a scene with the girl being smacked in the head with angry wet gophers, hmmmm . . . Edited by - 30cc Load on 7/20/2009 3:16:30 PM
I don't understand why it bothers people. But I can tell you, the majority of gagging scenes usually don't have "quagging", at least the scenes exclusive to gagging. I'm assuming that it's the voiced sound a girl makes during a throat fuck. It depends on the girl, and to me it seems like most don't do it. Usually it's just the sounds that you'd maybe expect to result from a cock being shoved down a throat. Sometimes that does include a sound that I could only describe as "guk", but that one I like, it's not voiced or forced (fake). Just the sound of an air passage being plugged, if you want to talk science. Another thing I felt like noting, as a fan and collector of the Gag Factor series, I can tell you that vomiting almost never occurs. It's Gag Factor, not Puke Factor... that is, unless you count the copious amounts of drool. I say this because it seems like thread after thread, I read of the series being misconstrued as catering to a puke fetish. Of course, these critics are usually far from fans of the stuff and never watch it, so how would they know anyway?
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Posted - May 8 2010 : 10:38AM
Puke, drool, hocker, greenies all the same sordid mess.
No point in arguing over which kind of blowjob is better. Different people like different things. If you like a forceful blowjob with some spit, drool, and yes some quagging, check out the blowjob with lot of saliva thread. If you like a less aggressive, more sensual blowjob, check out the Is the Sensuous blowjob dead? thread.
Cassandra Calogera is very good with the rough bj's and has quagged (is that acceptable, or is it only quagging?) in several of her scenes, particularly Jerk Off Material 2. Hers doesn't sound like "quack quack quack" though, its more of a "glrup glrup glrup" sound.
I personally can't stand this, but Kaci Starr "quags" a lot. But I like her, so I put up with it. I was always impressed that Sasha Grey could take eight inches without gagging.
Roger T. Pipe is the only interviewer that makes it his business to interview porn stars. He has his own site dedicated to his interviews and posts here from time to time. I understand that him and the Stephanie/Drew duo that run this site are at least familiar with each other enough that when an executive at a studio threatened Steph and Drew in an e-mail to Roger, Roger gave Steph a e-mail heads-up. There is a thread about it here somewhere. ADT also was not listing that company's movies as of a year ago.
One girl who used to do it well (I thought) was Hailey Young. I never quite figured out if she was faking it or not but it seemed genuine to me most of the time and she really seemed to get off on it. Which made it really hot. That's on top of the fact that I think she's one of the most strikingly attractive girls ever to do porn. She actually seemed to enjoy herself most of the time. Edited by - randomprecision on 5/11/2010 1:52:20 AM
Haley Scott was the first I saw do this in a bakers dozen scene along with Hailey Young, pissed me off and always fast forwarded thereafter. However if the good lady indoors started doing it I would probably like it and go on a search for the girls that do, pronounce Haley Scott the Queen and defend all quagging pornstars, so fickle,,the power of the pussy eh, sends the sane insane.
Sorry Random typing in U.K slang again. I was saying that I find it annoying, however if my partner began doing it I'm sure my views would change and would praise all pornstars as a result,,,something like that.
its not hated ( by everybody ) .. id actually be interested in seeing more scenes with this anybody know of any DVDs that feature this ? it's basically when a girl chokes/gags and makes lots of noise while trying to deepthroat... Hillary Scott is a notorious quagger ... Gianna Michaels also has trouble fighting her gag reflex any other stars / scenes / movies ?
Oralperv,you might enjoy a scene from the movie Baby Loves The Shaft 10(review) from Killergram.It features this girl Victoria Brown(freeones link) and it's an oral scene for her and the male talent is The Shaft who pounds her throat.I think i called it "glugging" but it's also known as "quagging" This is some snippets from the review if you do not want to check it all out,it was a great scene Victoria slams four fingers deep inside her hole and fingers herself like crazy and her pussy is getting wetter and wetter and as she begins to lick on her tits and nipples she also throws in some dirty talk,the next thing The Shaft stands before Victoria with his huge weapon at the ready and she guides it into her mouth and begins to gag on it before spitting on the end of it and circling her tongue all over his shaft.He face fucks her and she makes a glugging sound in the process,she gets The Shaft to slaps his cock of her tongue and she rubs his massive cock all over her face. Victoria gives him a sloppy blowjob and coats his cock with her saliva and holds the end of it and wanks him into her mouth till she is gagging on his cock and making that glugging sound again,there is plenty of saliva on display here and more face fucking and gagging is caught from different camera angle and Victoria is really getting of on having her mouth used with The Shaft's cock.It's getting messy with the saliva but she is loving this face fucking she is getting and after more cock sucking she rubs his cock all over her face,she urges The Shaft to fuck her tits and this looks great. More face fucking and Victoria makes those glugging sounds again The Shaft must be tickling her tonsils,now she lies back and plays with her pussy as The Shaft moves round and fucks her mouth while she fingers her pussy at 100 miles an hour.Victoria fingers her arse as well while she plays with her pussy and The Shaft continues to face fuck her. Then as she deep throats The Shaft she pulls out and spits all over his cock he responds by spitting on Victoria and she returns more spit to his cock then gags and glugs away on his pole only stopping to wank him off and laugh and talk dirty.Tit fucking now and Victoria orders him to go as fast as he can and spits on her tits to lube them up.She looks great getting her tits pounded,The Shaft chokes her as he bangs away. It's available on dvd or you could check out the scene on the Killergram website.
Please note it only happens in that one scene in the movie,it's not a series on "quagging" I was just sharing the info of that scene as you might want to check that Victoria scene out.
I enjoyed "Quagging" for about 2 weeks a few years ago but I thought it got a old quick. I still like it in the right context. I dont even know if I can pinpoint when the right time is...it can be hot but it was run into the ground a few years ago.
To me it's just aesthetically and sexually awkward. It sounds unpleasant and it just looks like the participants are trying WAY to hard to be extreme. I think it might be more exciting if done at the climax of the scene during ejaculation, but then you wouldn't really be able to see it... I still wouldn't care for it.
I like quagging, but like many have said it's becoming more rare. I don't think I could sit through a full series of it. I like seeing it in a really intense blowjob scene about every now and again other than that it is a circus act. Though in Rocco's Power Slave 2 Anita Hengher gets slightly quagged (is that the correct way of saying it) and I loved that scene.